It's 2017, and this is a review for DOOM on the Nintendo Switch. Even after having completed the 8-to-10 hour campaign, spending a few more hours in multiplayer and having tried out arcade mode, it still feels unreal. After 20 years, id's magnum opus is back on a Nintendo console.
"They are rage, brutal, without mercy. But you. You will be worse. Rip and tear, until it is done." These are the words Doomguy hears before waking to utter chaos, and they set the tone for the rest of the experience. From the moment you free yourself from your shackles, you're in for frenetic, over-the-top action from start to finish. There's no explanation or impetus for your actions. There are demons, you have a gun, and it's them or you. With nothing but those words to guide you on your way, you set to dismantling demons one-by-one by any means necessary, be it a pistol, a chainsaw, or your bare hands. Combat is a very personal experience. Guns don't have iron sights, meaning every shot you take is from the hip using the on-screen reticle.
DOOM makes it clear from the outset that you aren't the prey, you're the predator. Encounters with foes never come in ones and twos, but in tens of enemies. If you aren't careful, they'll make short work of you. Unlike most modern-day shooters, in DOOM, your health doesn't regenerate. Instead, you'll have to earn it, just like the good old days. The quickest way to get your health back is to execute a glory kill. As you fight off enemies you can stun them, leaving them reeling for a short time, allowing you to move in for a finisher that can only be described as gruesome.
Glory kills always drop health and range from something as benign as kicking and punching the enemy out of your way to some truly insane displays of violence such as ripping a demon's arm off and beating it to death with its own bloody appendage. The first few times you see these, you'll wince, but they're gratifying to pull off. The need to perform glory kills changes combat for the better, as there's no safe option. Standing in one place will get you nowhere, fast. Instead you have to run, jump and strafe just to stay alive while you stun enemies enough to brutalise them and regain some health.
From the moment you don the Praetor suit, things only continue to escalate. Doomguy's iconic green outfit is much more important this time around than it ever has been before. Throughout your journey across hell's invasion of Mars, you'll find a few different ways to upgrade the Praetor suit, though the most common of these methods is through the use of Praetor Tokens. The tokens can be found by searching dead bodies as well as in caches.
Your suit isn't the only thing you can enhance, either. Every weapon you obtain has both upgrades you can purchase for it as well as mods. Upgrades are earned through your combat performance in each level, where you can earn up to five upgrade points. The more of these you unlock, the more expensive they become. Mods are a different story. To earn mods you have to find a bot selling them. These bots are usually easy to spot, but some are better hidden. When you find a bot you can choose a single mod for any of your weapons. Mods add a secondary ability, such as explosive rounds or a grenade launcher. These take the place of how you would normally use iron sights or a scope, the ZL button.
As the game begins, you find yourself in facilities on Mars that were built for the express purpose of finding a way into hell. Doomguy's bent on getting back to hell and finishing the fight he started, meaning you'll be doing exactly that. The game is split into 13 levels, many of them varied and unique. The environments are beautifully rendered and at times utterly breathtaking. It's hard to believe what id has managed to pull off on the Switch. It's clear sacrifices were made to get DOOM running on a portable device, but those sacrifices don't hurt nearly as bad when you hold the game in your hands and actually play it.
DOOM was definitely made with portable mode as the primary focus. Whether docked or not, it runs at 720p, the native resolution of the Switch's display. That means it looks really great in handheld mode, but when docked things start to look a bit muddy and blurry. We didn't find that this caused issues for us with the game, but it was noticeable. What did cause some problems were the frame rate and the audio. DOOM is a beautiful game, but that beauty comes with a price tag. When enemies got a bit too dense on screen or when large numbers of particle effects were going on at once, the frame rate took a major hit, becoming noticeably choppy. If we had to guess, we'd say the frame rate can occasionally drop into the teens.
These drops didn't happen often, but they're there all the same. It seems a few areas are problem spots in the game, but we found it was easiest to reproduce these issues in arcade mode, where more of everything seems to be happening. Audio issues were far more consistent in our experience. During glory kills we would sometimes experience audio not playing at all, and in some levels we noticed problems so severe the game would need to be restarted. Audio would at times be very low and sound effects would instead trigger a popping sound. We're hopeful that these faults will be addressed in a patch.
Going back to the game, DOOM may well be the first outing on the Switch that features proper, console-style multiplayer. The porting team Panic Button had the good sense to build an invitation system into the game that is both functional and easy to use, and we love it. Once you're in a lobby, just press Y to bring up a list of your friends, then select them and choose "Send invite". Hopefully Nintendo steals this idea when it finally launches its full online service next year. Right now Team Play, Free-For-All and both team and solo variants of Deathmatch are available. Multiplayer employs a levelling system like those seen in the Call of Duty or Halo series. As you level up you unlock the custom armour, weapons and playable demons; the demons are an especially interesting touch as they allow you to play as some of DOOM's most iconic enemies. Games takes place on small maps designed to keep you in contact with your foes as much as possible. Because of the small arenas, matches feel reminiscent of the halcyon days of first-person shooters, when Unreal Tournament reigned supreme.
If multiplayer isn't your bag, then arcade mode just might be the right fit. In arcade mode, enemies spawn in greater numbers, and you're slave to a score multiplier. Killing enemies of course keeps your multiplier up, which drains when you aren't in combat. You can also find little Doomguy dolls hanging around for extra lives, as you start out with just one. The best part? You can choose any level of the campaign from the start in arcade mode, meaning if you're familiar with the game on another platform, you can hop right in.
DOOM is an incredible game, flaws and all. Audio issues and frame rate drops were annoying at times, but weren't dramatic enough to deter us from a beautiful, pulse-raising good time - and we imagine that future updates will at least partly solve these problems. DOOM is one of the best first-person shooters we've ever played, and is certainly the best in its class on Switch. There's a certain magical quality about having a game this good on the go. Its brilliant campaign is reason enough to pick it up, but DOOM's multiplayer will keep you coming back for more for months to come. While it's perhaps not as polished as it is on other formats, having DOOM in portable form is a revelation, and developer Panic Button deserves high praise for porting over id Software's classic title so brilliantly.
Pretty darn hyped about getting this one.
looks good! may have to get this
I will absolutely be double dipping for Doom on Switch - My thanks to Bethesda for supporting Switch while other devs sit back and wait, or release sub-par efforts - Looking forward to being NintenDooMed!
Would be equally looking forward to LA Noire if it actually contained the game on the cartridge.
Looks good but too many games to play!
Already got it preloaded.
I wonder when it gets unlocked (midnight London or CET time)?
Now I'm REALLY excited for tomorrow!
Reviews like a 9, gets an 8. Can't accuse NL of bias here.
What I fear though is that the occasional framerate drop and audio issues have impacted the score.
I suspect the audio will get dealt with, and the framerate won't bother me in the slightest.
I'm taking a hiatus from buying Switch games, but when I resume this is top of my list.
Do enemies respawn in campaign mode?
Can't wait for my copy to arrive!
I have a long train journey trip on Saturday so I hope to kill some demons on the go!
@Dudikowski from memory, no. But you'll rarely find a shortage of things to shoot. The later levels are absolute chaos.
@gcunit @JamesR Well I know it’s 1am in Aus - so maybe the same everywhere. As for the score, it makes sense though.. game is an easy 9 and the issues specific to this version drop it slightly- I personally will greatly look forward to any improvements and it would be nice if those issues weren’t present at all, but I still look forward to this in it’s current form.
I'm so happy to have this on Switch, "Splatoon 2" is a fine game, but sometimes I just need some good old fashion ultra-violence. I hope Activision is taking notice of "Doom" sales because there is absolutely no good reason for "Call of Duty Modern Warfare Remastered" not being on Switch IMO.
On another subject: There are people who don't understand why I would be excited to have a "inferior" port of the game. This takes me back to the Wii, it is the same reason why I was so happy to have "COD Black Ops" on the system, the one and only system that allowed to "switch" (ah!) at will between COD and Super Mario Galaxy. a decade later, here we are again, a single system taht allows me to quickly switch between plaything "Splatoon 2" and "Doom".
...is it tomorrow yet?
Really enjoyed it on PS4 but I won't be double dipping, even with the portability.
To anyone getting this for the first time, you're in for a treat.
Not getting this until Christmas, but I'm totally looking forward to playing it. In a weird way this game is a perfect fit for the Switch.
I played it on a monster PC and had a great time. But I will definitely double dip, because I want to support such moves from big publishers. Also, Doom on a handheld, how cool is that?!?
I still can't make my mind up about this. The resolution and frame rate compromises I think I can live with, but the lack of gyro controls is just really aggravating and given how stubby the Switch analogue sticks are, the extra precision of gyro controls would have made this an immediate purchase for me. I might just wait for the inevitable price drop...
Sounds decent, honestly I've gotten used to playing PC games on medium graphics settings and they have never demeaned the experience. Whether I buy this right now or for Christmas is up in the air.
My only concern is I hear that even for physical copies you have to download the multiplayer to play the campaign. Can anyone corroborate this?
@QwertyQwerty Nope, sorry.
Fight like hell!
I bought this for the PS4 earlier this year when it was on sale and I've yet to open it. I don't think I'll be in a rush to pick up this version.
I bought the Xbox One version for £10.00 out of Tesco. so wont be buying at £49.99 but still enjoyable.
Great game. Looking forward to it.
@easygoingthief nobody should be paying full rrp for any game. Got this for under 40.
@FX102A I hope this is not true!
I know it’s cheaper on other consoles but I can’t wait to play this on my Switch! I’m holding off on it though, maybe it could be a potential christmas present from my boyfriend 🤔😁
Have this on the pc but will get for the switch. Doom on the bus, multiplayer included, freakin A
@Zuljaras I've since heard that its not but that it does constantly bug you download.
Still waiting for full confirmation though.
Great purchase for those that only own a Nintendo switch
Review definitely reads like a 9 but whatever, an 8 is still 'Great'. Enjoy everyone!
I had this game recommended to me by a friend for PC yonks ago, bought it this year, only a greater than 70gig install!
Anyways I wanted to 100% is as the secrets are ace for a 20th century gaming vet, and it seemed to have a sense of humour about itself.
As soon as the Switch version was announced (that I pompously predicted in March, thx Vega) I stopped playing on the PC.
I am now 100% predicting Metroid Prime to either made by Bethesda/id or at least using idtech6.
You didn't read it here first, but scrolled past as it was too long to read...
@JamesR London time if you paid in Pounds.:/ - Worse for me - I'm in Thailand os I have to wait until 7am to play lol.
Double dipping on this, no question. Doom 2016 on a portable. Madness. Anyone who's played it knows what an incredible technical achievement this is, even with compromises.
Why am not excited about this at all? :/
For UK buyers, this is £39.99 at Amazon (37.99 with Prime).
For digital buyers, this is under £36 on the South African eshop (plus possible charges if you don't use Revolut)
"...spending a few more hours in multiplayer and having tried out arcade mode, it still feels unreal."
Is that intentional? This game feels like Unreal Tournament?
Excellent to hear. Won't be a day one purchase for me but can definitely see me picking this up in the new year.
@JibberX Prime 4 is being developed by an internal Nintendo team. I definitely didn't read that first here, either.
Does this version have a shotgun and chainsaw? All the weapons I've seen so far just look like generic futuristic shooter guns. One of the best parts of original DOOM were the iconic weapons that can be recognised anywhere, even from the most blurry or pixelated screenshot.
@JamesR same but in Australia 😁 1 hour to go
Is it just me or does the summary sound like it’s buidling up for a better score than an 8?
“The best FPS we’ve ever played...best in it’s class on switch...we LOVE the matchmaking so much Nintendo itself needs to do it that way...8/10”. Wait what? So the best possible score for an FPS is an 8? How did splatoon 2 get 10/10 but not this with a summary like that? Is it the technical hiccups?
Splatoon 2 is my favorite game on switch, by the way. All these superlatives in the review had me expecting more than 8/10, that’s all.
I’ve never even played the game and I’m ready to give it higher than that after reading the review, haha.
Never played Doom before, and I'm hyped about this! I'm glad I pre-ordered this instead of Sonic. I'm racheting the game straight up to nightmare difficulty (or ultra violence if nightmare isn't available from the start). If I like the game enough, I may end up trying to find a cheap PS4 copy so I can have a prettier TV version to play.
Also, even though I ordered with Amazon Prime, my copy doesn't arrive till Tuesday. What gives, Amazon?!
Ready for this!
Such a great game, and amazing to see it running on a portable device. Buy it!
Bloody fantastic. I can't wait to rip the sh#t out of these demons once again
@GravyThief Shotgun and chain saw are present and correct.
Got it preloaded, ready to go for this weekend.
Was not sure about this, as i loved the original especially the chainsaw, but now might get someone to get it for me for Christmas. I have too many games backlogged.
I knew the framerate would affect the game's score.
It's just as 9-worthy as many first party titles.
Bought this onsale on Xbox One several months ago. I was bummed after realizing I don't like the "shooter" mechanic of this game. Like a ghostbuster the only point to yout weapon is to hold the enemies relatively still. Quite unlike a ghostbuster you're expected to run over and then graphically dismember the demon in an over the top fashion.
I enjoyed Doom and Doom 2. Found Doom 3 too dark and confusing to figure out where to go every few minutes. This Doom however is more of a First Person Finishing Move game than a First Person Shooter. Dozens of machine gun bullets barely affect your foes. You will need to finish off nearly every single one with your bare hands.
My wife and I were not prepared for such a responsibility and I shut the game off after a couple hours, then sold the game the next day.
I don't approve of censorship in any way, but the constant in your face dismemberment was not what I signed up for. I expected to mow down legions of demons and melee the few who get to close or who I get the jump on like any other FPS.
I'm sure most people love this game, but know what you're getting into. I hope it does well on Switch, just not a game for me.
PS I'm not some weak stomached child who can't handle a little gore. The FEAR series is well played by me, as well as Gears of War, Space Marine, Resident Evil, Silent Hill, and the original Doom games. I love horror and being shocked, just not ripping apart every opponent in a game with a cutscene that lasts a moment to several seconds one after another.
Is local multiplayer an option or is this going to be strictly online? I've already got three copies of Splatoon 2 to play with my family. I don't plan to repeat that to play Doom with my wife.
Wanted to get one for PC, but never got myself to buy it, then my brother bought it for PS4, but I don't really have time to play on his PS4, so I'm grabbing my Switch copy tomorrow to finally play me some Doom
I’ll probably buy it at some point, but the PC version is enough for me for now.
@MjekuMati DOOM being best in its class on Switch, means it's the best first-person shooter in a class of, er, roughly one. Both Splatoon 2 and Rogue Trooper are third-person shooters. It's a completely meaningless statement at this stage. Maybe when Wolfenstein II comes out in February (I think), there will be a more worthwhile comparison.
@MarcelRguez true enough. I mean it doesn't stop Nintendo licencing idtech6, just feels super odd that there is such an immediate affinity between Bethesda and Nintendo all of a sudden with no real preamble.
Doom feels almost like an audition to make a Metroid Prime game, with all the jumping segments if you try and 100% each level all it's really missing machanically is the ball mode and the lock on, it even has game lore and narrative scurried away in corners of the levels.
Someone lend me fifty quid? thnx
Just received a text that my copy has been despatched. Hopefully arrives tomorrow!way more hyped for Wolfenstein (Doom i only played the first one when a kid) but I want to support bethesda effort (I don't fancy western RPGs/open world so Skyrim is a pass to me)
@Alikan My wife saw video of the game and the first time she saw and heard dismemberment, she put her foot down and said she didn’t want me to bring this game into our house! I respect that, though. It’s a bit much.
This is an extremely hard pass until Christmas because I have to prepare my wallet for early 2018, as I believe that it will try to actually murder my wallet. (Also I already have the game on PS4)
Bought the Nintendo Switch Mario Odyssey bundle and will be double-dipping DOOM!
I don't care what anyone says, this game is a 10/10 to me. I put this game and Doom 64 side to side and both runs beautifully so I don't care about this meh frame drop that everyone kept talking about. The enjoyment is what's possible here.
While I already expected the mobile Doom to be the worst Doom from a performance standpoint, it still sucks to hear about frequent frame drops.
Still, probably going to pick this up. On Metacritic, it hasn't scored anything less than a 7.
Question about multiplayer; on Switch, can you play with other people locally, or is it online only?
@EVIL-C I want to know that too
@milliag I would've been fine if it was an every few enemies thing, but expecting me to rip apart the vast majority of enemies with my bare hands was not something I expected or wanted.
@Grauz I even emailed the dev team a few weeks ago asking about LAN, but got no reply of any kind.
The Switch version is smeared in Vaseline, half the frame rate, lower resolution, graphically looks worse, cut features, not all the game is on the cartridge, is more than twice as expensive as other platforms where it performs better. Here, have an 8, mate.
Edit: I've forgotten other things but a big one is that it doesn't use pointer or even gyro controls and the game doesn't take any advantage at all of the extra power when docked.
However about the pointing system...besides Nintendo's own titles, did any third party title get higher than 8/10 score on this site ?
I'm so glad to hear it. It is time for me to go all in on Doom and all Bethesda has to offer. We as Nintendo fans should support this company as much as possible. I cannot wait for Skyrim as well. I know I won't be playing much of anything else once Xenoblade 2 comes out, but I will certainly come back to these games.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Why do you even come here? Stop crying over the fact Zelda doesn't get supported on Wii U and get over it. Buy a Switch or don't.
You bore the hell out of me with your negativity all the f*cking time.
Great stuff! Mines pre-ordered with Amazon, should get it next week.
Good to hear. I might double dip when it drops in price a bit.
If you haven't played this on other systems, you have no excuse.
Get This Game.
" half the frame rate" — Yes, cause it's a portable game.
"lower resolution" — Yes, cause it's a portable game.
"looks worse" — Redundant, you said that already.
"cut features" — Just the snap editor. So a cut feature is more accurate.
"not all the game is on the cartridge" — True, I'll give you that, but at least multiplayer is there to download, and isn't cut entirely.
"is twice as expensive as other platforms where it performs better" — Well isn't that something, the PS4 runs it better AND has a lower price cause it's been out over a year before the Switch even existed on the market. It's nonsensical!
I agree about the FPS vs TPS point, but they clearly said this is the BEST FPS they’ve ever played. That means they’re never played one higher than an 8/10.
Edit: I think they changed their review to read “one of the best” now. Either that or I hallucinated it this morning while I read it to the beautiful sounds of a screaming colicky baby.
Lol, except that the Wii U is still getting DLC support, just like the Switch. He's just mad that he couldn't get a free rusty broadsword.
@QwertyQwerty No unfortunately.
@TIND Mario Rabbids did. Believe it got a 9 and plenty of others got at least an 8.
An 81 on Metacritic from 16 review sites so far; suddenly my desire to buy the game is going back up. Unfortunately unlikely to arrive by tomorrow if I ordered tonight. Better if I wait a week till after payday.
@MjekuMati Oh, the screamy, colicky baby - I remember it well. They do indeed warp reality around them. You have my sympathies. On the plus side, there isn't a better console than the Switch for a new parent, right?
Ya know, if it's worth it to you, buy it. If you prefer to spend less and just have it on your tv, aka PS4 or Xbox, that's your prerogative. Don't let anyone sway you if you really want it on the go. To me, it's crazy that this game even exists on Switch to begin with. We all knew this game was going to have to cut corners to run, so none of the negatives should be really surprising.
Have it pre loaded. super excited for this.
Woop! Pumped to have this one on the go!
Bethesda....you have my money.
@MoonKnight7 Nice deduction Sherlok
The shooting and enemy destruction sounds a bit involved. I’d be happy just to shoot at the beasties and be done. Maybe rogue trooper fits the bill for that more?
This all said, I’m very much looking forward to tying this out when I️ eventually get some funds.
Preordered while Amazon's discount is still active. Didn't buy it for my PC, but I'm a sucker for a good Doom game.
So, this game looks awesome. However, I can't help but think I should just get this game on PS4 for half the price since I am always using the system docked anyway...
Might be pre loading this when I get off work today. I want to dive into this bad boy right at 11:00
So I'm going to assume you have Prime? I only ask cause I had a weird experience with them on this game. We're supposed to get the game on day one, however, the Amazon rep told me that my "area" was not in range to get it on day one for this "particular game." It's odd, cause I live about an hour outside of a major city, so the area part makes no sense at all.
I said to them, wtf are you talking about? This has never happened to me before, so I was just curious if you're getting it on day one or not.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Your comment as usual consists of lots of "it doesn't do this, it doesn't do the other". You are awarded the "50 shades of BLACK" award. Congratulations!
This isn't a day one purchase for me... But only because I had to pay rent and I can't get it till this time next week (yay being an adult!). I never got to play it before, and I'm quite looking forward to it.
My wallet is further doomed!! This bodes well for LA Noire and Wolfenstein too! If anybody still questions the switch, they must be mad!!!
i will get this game later, already spent money on skyrim and xenoblade 2 ,
cant wait to play doom around january / late december
Pretty excited about this. Not only is the whole main game on the cartridge (So sad that's actually a selling point. Thanks for not getting it wrong, Bethesda!) But I was somwhat intrigued when it came out but just couldn't get myself to play it on PS4....only playing big epics if I fire that up. But on Switch this is a dream.....can't wait for it to arrive. Poor Sonic, his stay in my cart slot has been brief.
Also, it's just unimaginable to have images of blood soaked monsters on NL...
@Steve_Bowling "It's 2017, and this is a review for DOOM on the Nintendo Switch. Even after having completed the 8-to-10 hour campaign, spending a few more hours in multiplayer and having tried out arcade mode, it still feels unreal"
No, it feels Doom. You're going to have to talk to Epic about Unreal. #SwitchSkaarj
There are so many good games to get, I never expected this in year one!
Doom will get picked up, but with odyssey being the game of play, I’ve decided to wait until Black Friday/cyber Monday to see if there are deals to pick up games.
If not, at least I will have time to play something by then.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE What is actually most incredible about your comment is that it's comment #74. You are getting lazy and slow with your negativity my friend.
@Steve_Bowling Great review! Do either you or @AlexOlney know if the multiplayer mode is a required download, or can one who buys the physical version just stick with single player and not be forced to download the extra mode? Some games I think would force it on people, but it would be nice if it was the case where it had the option to optionally "Download" if you select a multiplayer option.
"There's a certain magical quality about having a game this good on the go"
This is how I feel every time I take Zelda to bed. (did that sound wrong?!)
You do know that doom guy is really Link, awakes each time to fight off Ganons' hell spawn.
Hopefully the performance and audio issues get patched up and man, I wish there were gyro controls but I am SO hyped for this tomorrow! I'm kind of praying the cartridge will be red...
The Switch is DOOMed!!!
@datamonkey It did sound wrong...in such a right way. Lol
Lol, Doomguy...original name!
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Would you like some french cries with your whamburger?
Yeah I'll be picking this up tomorrow. It'll be great. Mario last week. Skyrim next week. It just keeps getting better for Switch owners.
Great review Steve! Can't wait to play this in handheld mode!
Won't be getting this one. My money is on L.A. Noire instead.
@flapjack-ashley We got a digital code, so I'm unsure, but if I had to guess it's a required download.
@JimmySpades Thanks. I don't need to have played it to point out all of those facts.
@NEStalgia The multiplayer is actually quite reminiscent of Unreal Tournament, and I mean that in a good way!
@gcunit No, I would have rated Doom on PS4 at no more than 9. It's crazy good but not a perfect game. The Switch's framerate issues definitely warrant an 8. Is everybody just forgetting that an 8 is a reeeeally good score?
@Dudikowski Thank god, no they don't respawn. This means, like the original Doom, if you get lost you just need to find where the enemies are.
@Steve_Bowling Thanks for the reply.
@Totaldude911 Have you played it then?
Personally, occasional slowdowns are completely inconsequential to me and don't affect my rating by more than 1%
If it's a great game, it's a great game. If it's a great game dogged by slowdown then maybe take 10% off (or more if rendered unplayable), but if slowdown is only occasional I couldn't care less.
i'm too young to die
Gyro and local wireless multiplayer would make it my favorite version, regrdless of resolution and framerate.
@gcunit Have you played it? I'm not hating on doom, bro. I mean, 8 is a reeeally good score. I would honestly rate the PS4 version of doom an 8. 8 is an amazing score dude. If you want to give the game a 9 after you play it then go for it. If someone wants to give it an 8 then I don't see why they should think "Man, framerate issues don't mean a lot to gcunit so maybe I should give it a 9."
An 8 is what I figured after all of the previews.
This is absolutely not for me, but I'm nonetheless happy it's here and lives up to the series.
@gcunit My point is that you are trying to degrade the entire rating system. Doom would not deserve an 8 if the framerate issues made it near unplayable like you said. It would deserve a 5 or 4. If it has moderate slowdown, an 8 is a freaking great score.
I'll never understand how a brainless shooter without a real (or even interesting) story can get such a high rating.
Unless it's a pure multiplayer shooter like Unreal Tournament if course, multiplayer doesn't need a story.
But whatever, I wasn't planning on buying it anyway unless they add gyro (or mouse ) support.
@MoonKnight7 I also have this pre-order trough Amazon prime and live smack dab in the middle of Dallas Texas. A top five most populous city in the USA. I won't be receiving this until Tuesday either according to the website. Not sure what's going on with Amazon as I've never had this problem with any other game...
I want to get this. But I have to put tires on my truck. I need to either hit the lottery or get a sugar mama.
My copy is already in transit. Can't wait!!
Thanks for the reply. That's the exact same story I got! Yeah, what on earth is the deal there? I tried to get an answer out of the guy, but got brushed off, cause I assume he doesn't really know himself. If you're interested at all, I contacted them via the Amazon chat, and got them to move it up a whole day (yay?) from Tuesday to Monday. It's up to you if want to bother getting it a day early.
I preorder from Amazon a lot, and this has never happened to me before either, so it really is a head-scratcher. I mean, it's not a big deal, but a big perk with Prime is that you get it on launch day for a discounted price.
@BensonUii I hope they add it. Because I really got used to then in Splatoon on Wii u
@Robohock I pre-ordered at Best buy on Midway & 635. It says I can pickup Friday morning. Hope you don't have to wait, that sucks. And it's also cool to see that there's somebody else in Dallas Texas on NL.
im going to stick with the classic doom games.
@AlexOlney does the game card run without the need to download multiplayer element?
I would think fans of DOOM, and by extension id Software, would argue that Quake III reigned supreme. (That said, I will totally concede that UT trounced Q3A when it came to team-based gameplay. And I would also concede that both UT and Q3A are way better in the multiplayer department than DOOM (4).)
High hopes for Wolfenstein II on Switch.
Any split screen multiplayer? Would be good for the arcade mode. Coop kinda
@shani Well, imho BotW's story is trash, and it's a solid 9/10 for me. Some games deserve a great rating because of their amazing gameplay.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I don't recall if you ever actually purchased a Switch.
With that being said, have you even played this version of the game? And I am under the impression at this point that it wouldn't matter if the game was on par graphically and feature wise with other consoles. You would, like you always do, move your goalpost to find something else to whine and moan about. And let's be clear, that's all it is. Whining and moaning to hear yourself whine and moan. Nothing more.
@gcunit to me, owning the Xbox version and a buttery smooth 60 frames, this is an absolute deal breaker IMO. This isn't Zelda, it's twitch shooter DOOM.
Has everyone forgotten how to just play a game??? Not to worry about FPS or Res... And just play and enjoy the game
@Alikan thanks for the heads up. I’d not realized it was that often. I was tempted buy this, but that does not sound like something I’ll get into.
@Alikan - thank you for that post, it was an interesting counterview.
I have the original Doom, but FPSs aren't really my thing. I was tempted by this though - the hype, the shiny big name game I can finally play (I've been Nintendo only since the PS2[!]) and the need for a new game now I've beat Calamity Ganon and Thimbleweed, but yeah, I think I'll hold my wallet for now, there are so many other good games coming out soon.
720p docked or handheld
Poor frame rate issues
I saw it running multiplayer and it looked awfull.
Doesn't sound great for a £50 game.
Everyone losing their s*%t because @SLIGEACH_EIRE comments on Switch games but doesn't own one...you are all commenting on a game none of you have played as yet on the Switch.
Everyone has a comment to make or opinion to offer, right or wrong good or bad they have that right wether you like it or not.
Seems a lot of people on here are desperate for 3rd party titles to be a massive success because you all remember the Wii U and i understand the fear of getting no 3rd party suuport in the future but coating sh*t games in sugar isnt going to help, they will still be s**t no matter how much you sprinkle on.
@Nincompoop Unreal Tournament = ID Software. So no surprise there.
@WaveBoy How is it a lame port, just because it doesn't have gyro controls?
Ever thought that the game engine Doom is developed on doesn't have gyro control support?
No major 1st person shooter has ever supported Gyro controls, as gamers are not interested in this ( PS4/XBOne, PC).
Nintendo's Splatoon games are unique in this and the gyro controls are aimed at the younger audience that still struggle with an analog stick for viewing/aiming, but even my son doesn't use gyro anymore in Splatoon 2 and has mastered using the analog sticks now. Quite impressive.
I myself hated the Gyro controls in Splatoon and never used it. I am just so used to using analog sticks ( playing Destiny 1/2, The Division, etc ).
Man if hell would awake me just to shoo me from one repetitive arena to the next i would also go berserk like doomguy. Im glad videogames moved on.
It was fun for an hour or two. Not a big shooterfan anyway but fallout 4 was great.
@gatorboi352 So basically you're not interested in the fourth best version of the game because you can play the third best version. I see.
@MoonKnight7 I don't get the release day delivery for this game either, and I ordered with Prime.
Switch Doom, metacritic 79 so far, pretty much on par with this review
Now sold out on Amazon UK
Has anyone heard if the entire single player campaign is on cartridge w/o an additional download?
Also, is multiplayer DL optional?
@Mii_duck I highly recommend Mario Odyssey and Mario Kart 8 deluxe. Nothing wrong with scaleable difficulty and fun.
ie: to platform for that hard to reach moon or just move on to the next cute world.
Shovel Knight is also a great game on Switch if you enjoy old school and difficult platforming like Castlevania and Megaman. You get infinite lives, but with each death you may lose some gold.
Doom has really good reviews and most people seem to like it, just wasn't what I was hoping for.
Yeah that's strange. I only know one person who ordered from Amazon and is getting it day one, and he lives outside of NYC.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE You have to take into consideration that this release is appealing to a rather niche audience- one that either doesn't have other consoles or a gaming PC, or they didn't want DOOM earlier for whatever reason, not even during a sale, or they are willing to burn cash to double dip or have a portable version, despite it's weaknesses.
@PlywoodStick I can get the PS4 version for £10 in the UK. Instead I have paid £40 for the switch version. @SLIGEACH_EIRE is on one of his personal crusades to convince people not to buy.
Just for the record. Ubisoft, take 2, namco all recently declare they are all very happy with switch software sales. Must feel bad being proven wrong @SLIGEACH_EIRE
Played some this morning...love it!
Dont give a crap about 30 frames/resolution and all that.
Cant wait to finish work so I can play some more. Sooo much blood!
Be a man... your wife's got you by the testicles! Sad.. what else does she not let you do? Smh..
@Alikan - definitely not Mario Kart!
Racers are my thing, but I bloomin' hate the shell mechanism.
Resi will be my next purchase I think, or LA Noire. Maybes Gear.Club or The motocross game, pending reviews.
Skyrim is on the list too, but it looks a bit earnest and browned out after Breath of the Wild.
@Danrenfroe2016 oh nice to see a fellow Dallas resident as well! I'm just east of downtown but Midway and LBJ isn't too bad a drive as long as it isn't 5pm I may switch it up! Maybe we should exchange friend codes?
i got my copy preordered even though Xenoblade Chronicles 2 will take over my life Dec 1st...i cant wait to have fun in hell! LOL
@WaveBoy That it is not as good as the PS4/XBox One versions (obviously) doesn't make it a lame port by any stretch. The developers actually did a very good job considering the hardware they were working with, demonstrating that with some (acceptable) workarounds anything can be done.
I wish people would look at it for what it is and for what it can do, instead of unfairly comparing with other versions and asking for the impossible.
Besides, this game's target audience isn't those who already own a PS4, XBox One or PC. It was made for people who haven't played DOOM before and for those who only own Nintendo systems or think that portability is a big deal.
@maruse honestly people seem to forget that the switch is a tablet which isn't on the same level as Xbox one or PS4. The moaning about switch ports being the worst is ridiculous. What do these people expect developers to do. Magically get more from the switch which is physically possible.
If you don't like the switch having worse ports then the answer is simple. Buy yourself a PS4 or Xbox one.
30 fps in a twitch shooter is just not good enough. 30 fps in shooters in general is rather repulsive. Once you tasted 60 fps or more you just don't want to go back.
Well this version is for those that can't get any of the other versions. Nothing to write home about.
@Sinister I can get the PS4 version whenever I want. Choose switch instead so not it's not just for people who cannot access other versions
Just played the first two hours. My honest thoughts.
"Hahahahahahahahahahaha I'm playing last year's DOOM on a handheld hahahahahahahahahahaha it actually works this is ridiculous"
To anyone worrying about the frame rate.... don't. I've played the game on PS4 and XB1 and the frame rate of the Switch version is making no difference to how much fun it is.
@grogan have you played doom yet on the switch? You shouldn't criticize everybody because they are excited to get this game. As for @sligeach_eire I think you want people to respond to your criticism because you like to make negative statements on a system you don't own. I bet you want one, but you are scared that you are going to like it.
Watched a couple of comparison videos of this game earlier. Looks fast, looks great. Watched the comparison vid on my TV from the sofa about 6 ft away plus Youtube doesn't really do games that much justice. Honestly does the amount of rust you can see on a pipe in the background change the way the overall game plays? How they squeezed all that out of such a tiny console is pretty impressive.
FPS games don't really do anything for me as I got bored quite quickly with seeing bobbing guns, although I did like Doom and Timesplitters 2 back in the day, I think I might be tempted.
I’m so glad to see all of the responses to the people griping about 30fps. We are getting a great game on a console that isn’t as powerful as other consoles out. We get it! But the fact that it’s coming to us is amazing. Huge implications for the future of this console. If you are just going to complain about the switch version and how much better the ps4 one is...... wait for it...... don’t play this version and don’t complain.
@Grogan lol are you glad you got that out of your system or do you need a chill pill? Difference is, we'll be playing it today, and no matter the criticisms, some will still enjoy it. I don't have to respect anyone's opinions, especially when they come from ignorance or blind hate, and nobody is fearing anything, plenty of third parties are immensely satisfied with their sales, as articles on the site have repeatedly shown, and plenty more are coming. Now keep moaning and enjoy looking at the multiplayer
Doom is why I bought the Switch, because if Doom is successful I think we will see a lot more third party support and a lot more FPS games with online multiplayer coming soon. I’ll be buying La Noire as well, because I want GTA 5 to follow! I also want to get the Antank battery case... that looks slim and more than doubles your battery life. So many purchases, so little time.
@DizzyDee81 It's nice to finally have that problem. I'm getting Doom tomorrow, but how soon I play it depends on when I'm satisfied with how many moons I've gotten in Odyssey. I'm nowhere near being done, but I can't wait too long, because Xenoblade is right around the corner. I need more time. If only I didn't need that job I'm starting next week...
@JimmySpades depends. What's your definition of "best"?
@Grogan amen, brother. These NDFers can be tough.
@gatorboi352 I don't really have one. I just know every time someone comments on how obvious it is that the Switch version doesn't perform as well as the PS4, Xbox, or PC versions, they also note that the Xbox version just as obviously doesn't perform as well as the PS4 or PC versions. In general I find criticism from other console owners that the Switch doesn't perform well enough to be hysterical because the best performance isn't found on any console and hasn't been for years, and their ignorance of what actually performs the best belies their claims that it truly matters to them.
Oh, and once again, using "NDF" is the same as using "SJW"--it is meaningless apart from indicating the mindset of the person using it. You do not expose bias when you use it, you reveal it.
@kobashi100 That's fine, more power to you for supporting a product that took hard work to bring over. Although I do think Grogan kind of has a point that no one commenting until they've played for themselves has any more of an authoritative opinion on a game version few have played, just because they have an NS, than someone who doesn't own the system to begin with.
@JimmySpades Not to get too far into that maelstrom, but "SJW" became a pretty meaningful label after Gamergate. Considering the likes of Zoe Quinn has been able to use a celebrity host (Kim Kardashian) to be granted an audience with and give a presentation before the United Nations in the past, basically wasting their time when they could have been doing more important things... There's a certain amount of influence there which can have negative effects elsewhere.
As for "NDF"... I wouldn't take that so seriously, it's mostly hyperbole.
@Grogan theres a difference between an opinion and being a troll. @SLIGEACH_EIRE is a troll. Dude lives in these comment sections(literally), just to sht on every damn Switch game. Get a life kiddo and grow up.
Great review as always guys. This will be my first time playing DOOM and I know I'll love it(sci-fi FPS games ftw).
@MoonKnight7 just posting to confirm I got the same response on Prime chat support. The lady offered to put my order on priority and it "could" possibly arrive Monday??? Never had an issue with a pre-ordered game, like this, before. Sometimes 1 day late cause of postal issues. but DOOM is not shipping out from Amazon until Friday. I bit the bullet and canceled my pre-order, I'll spend the extra $13 I woulda saved so I can play it tomorrow and this weekend before Skyrim next weekend.
I never said it was s**t. I said 'it doesn't sound great for a £50 game' direct quote of what I said.
@gortsi you are correct in that you don't have to respect the content of their opinions, im going to assume thats what you mean. If you dont respect that they are allowed to have or make their opinion known that makes you a bully and a totalitarian tyrant.
@PlywoodStick It isn't really just about this game. Its the the particular posters post and the nature of their post on context that is the real discussion. They absolutely never have anything of value or constructive to add to a conversation. And its hard to take them seriously to begin with when the whining and moaning has to do with a console they don't own. That would be like me complaining and offering up opinions about the PS4 or Xbox One, having no experience with either.
@Grogan Lets be clear. Absolutely no one is suggesting that an opinion can't be expressed. I guess for me personally, I take a conversation/debate/argument much more seriously when the opinion is informed with not just second hand info, but actual facts and experience. Point taken that most of us haven't even played this particular game yet (or at least this version). But as I said above, the criticism at @SLIGEACH_EIRE is more so their posting habits and history.
Excellent post BTW.
I get it, I really do. I see what and how he posts. Sometimes I agree, sometimes not but I'll read it and either debate it or ignore it. Maybe he enjoys the 'triggering' I don't know but I'll defend his right to say it.
Doom on the Xbox is the third best looking version of 4. PC is obviously better and I've played it on PS4 (there's a demo) which looks noticeably better. However playing it on XB1 or Switch the drops in resolution and frame rate (and both versions have both of those) don't make any odds to the game.
As for which version is best, I own it on XB1 because I prefer the Controller to the Dualshock 4 for that game and on Switch because it actually works on a portable, amazingly. That's personal preference to play the two worst performing versions.
@BensonUii On a reddit post, they said there was no gyro aiming.
@yeayeanaynay Just send it to me.
I think a lot of it is attention seeking. He complains about late ports to Switch but bought ports on Wii U. He dismisses quality indie games on Switch but bought indie games on Wii U. He complains about too many ports on Switch but complains about it not having VC. He complains about lack of AAA games on Switch but won't buy a PS4/XB1/PC to play the games he claims to want so much. He complains about Switch versions of games being late/more expensive/not as good as versions on other systems...that he doesn't own.
The hypocrisy is too much, I think it's a textbook case of being willing to say anything, no matter how ridiculous, to get a response, no matter how critical.
@electrolite77 I've never understood the people that complain about ports but then demand Virtual console, which is a fiesta of ports! Also when the same people demand third party games, and then when we get games like this also complain that it's too old. It's newer than Super Mario World! To be clear I want Virtual Console and whatever ports are coming, the more games the merrier. Even though I'm tempted I think this game is probably too gruesome for me but for people that want it its great the options there. Options are good.
Played it last year on PS4, one of my favorite games on the system. Double dipping due to the portability factored offered by Switch.
@yeayeanaynay Nice attitude. I though it was pretty obvious that is was just a simple joke.
@Tingel thanks this is useful!
@electrolite77 I really want it!! I promised myself no more games! XD
@Grogan Of course. I only respect opinions based on arguments, not the rants of manbabies. But you keep taking that bait mate, nobody's stopping you
He does have some valid points though...some not all. I would rather see new stuff rather than ports but not having owned a Wii U I want to see ports of some amazing games I've missed. So I can't complain when ports of games come that I played many years ago, but I believe they are sometimes over priced. Take Skyrim which is a fantastic game and for those who never played it I understand why they will pay the high price for a 6 year old port that has no mods or the new survivor mode. I would have rather have seen Elder Scrolls Online or Fallout 4.
I fully understand if you don't want to play such graphically gory games, but that is what the Age Rating is for! Doom is an 18-rated game, R.E and others are either 15 or even 12 ratings. If you don't want the gore, then perhaps pay attention to age ratings??
@Grogan the same version of skyrim released on consoles last year at full price.
I have said this before and nobody has answered the question. Name me a time in the last 20+ years where you have seen publishers release late ports at the reduced sale price for new hardware.
Was RE4 sold for the reduced sale price when ported to PS2? How about sonic adventure 2, let's talk about crazy taxi also and the rest of Dreamcast games sega ported to other consoles.
How about the PS2 ports the original xbox got. I am giving you and others to come up with some examples from the last 20+ years.
The facts are that publishers have always released late ports at full price but for some crazy reason people want to pretend that this never happened and it's only happening now because the games are released on switch.
3 reasons to buy this game:
1. It's a great game. Port or no port, a great game is a great game and this one my friends is a great one.
2. Bethesda is a great game publisher and they're supporting the Switch. I want that to continue.
3. The art on the box is just too awesome. I think I'd buy this even if there was no cartridge inside. Lol
Hey guys looking to start up a group for Doom multiplayer hmu if you’re interested. FC is SW-2908-8274-0987.
Tbh, i think i have to reconsider my purchase it doesn't bother me that the graphics look slightly worse or that the resolution is lower or that there is no snapmap ... BUT fps-drops not in the region of low 20s but to 10s plus sometimes dysfunctional audio really doesn't sound good to me Here's hoping for a patch to clean things up a bit.
It's not the points on their own, it's the inconsistency. You don't get to complain about ports if you buy them or want more when it suits. You don't get to complain about the price of games on systems you don't own. You're not entitled to them prices.
@ThumperUK the gore bothered me a lot less than me just plain disliking that melee dismemberment is the recommended way to dispatch most of the foes in the few hours I played. I was hoping for more shooting in my first person shooter and it just didn't work for me. If I can handle the Saw franchise and the Silent Hill franchise, gore isn't a great big problem for me. I just didn't find it enjoyable. I was hoping to be able to murder demons in a wide variety of ways, not a wide variety of melee button watch dismemberment show.
I'm not saying Doom is a bad game, just not one that's fun for me specifically.
Exactly the way I look at it. Every system ever has a library dominated by ports. Bring them on.
Are you referring to me ? Or Sligeach Eire ?
I own a Switch SW 2985 9659 8469 and like ports especially ones I don't already own or have not played previously...ports I have owned or played I just don't buy.
Sorry, the Irish guy. It was a general 'you', not you specifically 😁
Thanks, I'll add you. If you haven't already, there's a friend code thread in the forum, put yourself on there.
@Robohock yes definitely, I got my switch yesterday evening, but didn't get to play it as work was in the way. But ill be playing tonight.
"DOOM makes it clear from the outset that you aren't the prey, you're the predator. Encounters with foes never come in ones and twos, but in tens of enemies. If you aren't careful, they'll make short work of you."
Am I missing something? The first sentence seems to have gotten predator/prey backwards.
Whip it, whip it good! See, this is where the portability comes into play. You can play it without her seeing or hearing it, just use headphones. If she still has a problem with that... Well, who paid for the system?
If you compare the ports games used to get on weaker hardware to this its really impressive. Watch the digital foundry video on the original doom ports and compare to this.
In the old ports levels were altered, music changed, gameplay changed, much slower frame rate, and even whole different engines used. Even going to wii and wii u ports many things would have to be changed.
This is the exact same game with a lower but still smooth frame rate and reduced graphical effects. That's impressive and great for anyone who wants an alternate way to play doom or doesn't own the game yet.
There's a chance I'll give this a rent. I'm glad to see this type of game on the system.
@kobashi100 when Zombi U re-released as Zombi on PS4 XB1, it launched at $20 ( Canadian,so it was probably $15US). One example, and there are others.... but I generally agree with the point you're making. Its true more often than not.
Been playing for a couple of hours, pretty awesome game so far.
So happy this is on the switch. I hope it sells well so more will come!
I enjoyed the game so far. There are some frame issues but still pretty good in handheld mode. Now if we can get Bayonetta on this thing.
Oh lordy this game is brilliant! (A tad too much dead zone on movement for me, but it doesn't detract from the carnage)
Really interested in this game on switch, reminded me of good old days with unreal tournament, don't think frame rate and resolution would bother me since I did not play original 2016 (nothing to compare to). Unfortunately I bought Mario odissy and cannot afford another $80 game for a time being. May be when it's on sale.
The game looks great, but it needs gyro aiming to play well IMO.
@JimmySpades Comparing NDF to SJW is absurd. I'll leave it at that.
NDF is a real thing around here btw, and a number of the more level headed commenters of this site are quite tired of them.
Bought it day one and enjoying it so far! Framerate and graphics are non-issues for me, probably coz I haven't played the other versions. My only complaint is the size of the text in undocked mode — too small to read and giving me a headache. LOL
I wish they'd do something about it through a patch or update.
8 is not that good my the reviewing standards here. 9’s and 10’s fat handed out all the time. The reviewers scare very easily, not harshly at all.
@the8thark Either way, you could just accept the idea that review scores really don't mean a whole lot about your individual enjoyment of a game. An 8 or 9 doesn't hold a lot of power over me, I've played games rated 6 and under that i thoroughly enjoyed.
I'm gonna have to sell my copy, no inverted controls.
@Joekun I'm gonna have to sell my copy no inverted controls
@tourjeff I'm gonna have to sell my copy no inverted controls
I'm gonna have to sell my copy no inverted controls.
Yeah not paying 40 quid for this when its in xbox for 10. If it drops to 20 I'll jump tho
@chrisftf I will likely be selling mine soon as well. The controls are just not to my liking. It’s too bad.
this game rocks! now i really want a switch keyboard
if only the text were bigger and sharper, have a hard time deciphering it…
Game is amazing!!!!! except how do you report the dead spot to the centre of the analogue sticks?
The fine movement is none existent, you've relatively no fine movement or full speed swing. Similar to the Original virtual console release of F-Zero X before the update.
@Chrisftf You can invert the controls in the settings
@SLIGEACH_EIRE However it runs at 100% the same everywhere outside my house when undocked where as on PS4/XBOX I can enjoy Doom at roughly 0p at 0fps. the graphical dip is totally irrelevant as the game is accessible in so many other ways. I play this WAAAAAAY more than I play my PS4 version.
Switch is THE platform for multiplayer games, the faster developers realise that the better.
Mobile data tether and local WiFi where available means team deathmatch whenever I/friends fancy a game, not when we ALL happen to be in our respective houses in front of our TVs.
THAT is the future of gaming and completive gaming.
Ordered and on its way! Can’t wait to play!!
controls are a bit unprecise. i think i would be way better at this game with mouse & keyboard…
my advice for portable gaming is to turn off chroma aberration and set the motion blur to low or off. makes everything look sharper.
@superguy123 You'll not regret it!
Looks good, plays good. ITS GOOD!
cant get enough of it...
Getting into this world is amazing and you cant stop thinking about how a Metroid game will be on switch!
Loved it until I played multiplayer for a day now can't play at all..
How the hell (no pun intended...) did this only get an 8?
Hello so I got at this game a bit late, but I love it. I really wish I could try the online multiplayer but there doesn't seem to be many people online. If anyone who has Doom would like to play. Please message me an email at [email protected] or just add me directly with my switch friend code SW-5775-8342-0122
Does this have local multiplayer?
No issues here! LOVE IT
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