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@Member_the_game I think they will. They did with Wii Sports anyway. It's listed as the third best selling game of all time on 82.9 million. It would be 100 million if it was bundled in Japan.

@Hank_Scorpio I would wager Switch 2 outsells Wii U's lifetime sales by the end of this year.

I am hopeful I'll be able to get one not long after launch. I'm in Thailand, so stock will likely be very limited. However, the one game shop in my city will likely get a few. They've said they'll message me if they open pre orders. So hopefully, even if they only get a few in, I'll be one of the first they message.

I'm not a betting man but if I was, I'd bet a tenner that 'Should be free' will be one of the Cons.

One of my friends used to go on about a game called Geist. I never played it but he loved it.

I absolutely loved Eternal Darkness and Timesplitters 2, so they'd be my top picks. But that's a strong list. One game I'd love to come but is extremely unlikely to happen, Fight Night Round 2. Best boxing game I've played by far.

Hopefully the GameCube app grows to at least a couple of dozen games.

@LastFootnote My Switch games all look much better on my 4K TV than they ever did on a variety of HD TVs, and many of those are below HD quality. No need for buyers remorse. Switch 2 games will look all the better for you having that TV.

I hope that unlike Switch , it will be a console known for its performance. Where Nintendo games all run silky smooth and third party ports are no longer 'miracle ports' with huge downgrades but ports that actually look good.

I played this on Wii U and is the only Fire Emblem game I've ever played. I really enjoyed it and it was the game that convinced me I can enjoy this style of game. I think I'll play it again. Pretty sure I never finished it because I got my Switch.

I have been in a family group with other NL members for almost 4 years now, so for what I get for just £7 a year, I can't complain. But if if was paying for a single EP membership, I'm not sure I'd think the Expansion Pack was worth it. Although with GameCube games and free NS2 editions of Zelda, it's a different story.

The GBA games are great but I find many of the N64 games hard to play with a Pro. That might change once we can edit the controls though. It's stupid that isn't already an option, as the default settings on many games are not ideal. The Octo Expansion is great but I already owned it. Free MK8D DLC should be great but I honestly wish it didn't exist. I dont like it, I feel it cheapens the MK8D experience. The Megadrive games are great but I already had most of them on a collection. I think there's only been 2 or 3 updates since. Although we did get 3 games added recently, so hopefully that's a good sign. There's so much more they could do with it though, like convince EA to put the Strike games on there. Or how about smaller gems like Wiz n Liz.

But what I hope for most from the Expansion Pack is, that more non-Nintendo consoles are added. Starting with Mega CD. Many of its best games have been played by so few. Games like Road Avenger, Silpheed, Robo Aleste and Thunderhawk deserve more than being stuck on ancient unsuccessful hardware or on some mini console hardly anyone owns. TG16 should be on NSO too. I loved discovering games from that console on the Wii Shop. Or how about Commodore 64 and Amiga games..Cannon Fodder, Monkey Island, Lemmings, Megalomania in mouse mode would be amazing. So much potential

Edit - and how can I forget the Master System. An amazing console that in my opinion, was better than the NES..At least graphically anyway. It was the console I owned and whenever I swapped it with my friend's NES for a few days, I was always happy to get it back. I haven't played many of its games for over 30 years.

I never meant to write so much.

If you enjoy Contra like games, Iron Meat and Super Cyborg are definitely worth checking out. Both can be had for fairly cheap when on sale. They both look and sound the part, especially Iron Meat, and are challenging but not to the level of Contra.

If you're a fan of run and guns, you'll surely enjoy both of them.

@DonkeyKongBigBoy Waluigi deserves his own game. He was my main in Mario Tennis Aces.. He always makes me laugh..I can only imagine how funny he would be in his own AAA game.

@datamonkey I haven't played Astro Bot but I've watched quite a lot of gameplay and I had the same thoughts. Nintendo have their work cut out. Hopefully it has inspired them to go even bigger with 3D Mario.

There's no way they're going to keep us waiting 3 or 4 years for a new 3D Mario. Perhaps they've got a different team working on it and the next 3D Mario will be something completely different. 8 years is a long time to be working on just DKB though. Perhaps they have been working on that and a 3D Mario at the same time. There's a rumour Retro have been working on Prime 5 alongside 4. They've also had plenty of time. And with TOTK using the same world as BOTW, the Zelda team has likely been working on the next Zelda since before TOTK was even released.

Nintendo are likely well prepared for this gen. With how well the Switch was selling, they didn't need to give us another 3D Mario or new Mario Kart. They got away with a lot of Wii U ports and remasters and not as many brand new experiences as past Nintendo consoles offered.

One of the last games to truly wow me was the original Soul Calibur on Dreamcast. For the first time since Final Fight on the the Mega CD, I felt like I had a proper arcade game at home. A graphical powerhouse in its day that still looks and plays great today.

I never played too much of SC2 but I'll be all over this. I just wish online play wasn't limited to beteeen friends.

Who needs Hal Effect when you've got Oiled Spoon on Plastic Bottle Effect.

I will buy the Pro 2 eventually but I think I'll be content with the Joy-con and Switch Pro for a few months. I'd rather spend the money on a game. The Pro I use just now, the Splatoon themed one, I just bought last year, after my original packed in.

I'm saying that but I know the temptation will be there from the start. We shall see if will resist buying it.

If you go straight online, Rainbow Road could be one of the first courses you play. Or even the first if you're lucky. 1 in 30 chance.it will happen.

I really hope this happens. I loved the game on Switch but I kind of regretted not playing it on a more powerful console. I would play through it all again if it gets a graphics update.

@abe_hikura Yep, seen a few comments like that. Saying stuff like a simple kart game should cost no more than $40.

Mario Kart World is more AAA than the vast majority of games that are labelled AAA.

I don't think they've showed much of the online side of things. I imagine that is going to be the main focus of the game. I hope those extra crafts that can be taken control of, like the hovercraft and truck and possibly helicopter and UFO, hint to a story mode. Although I suspect they're part of a multiplayer mode they haven't revealed yet.

What I hope most for is, a few tracks with proper sea and air racing. As well as another 1 or 2 online modes that I'll want to play just as much as the main mode. Knockout Cup is a fantastic addition. Another mode or 2 of similar calibre and this game will be next level.

I will likely play this on Switch 2. Hope to see the NG2 remake and 4 come too. 2 brand new and very different Ninja Garden's, a remake of the best one so far and a brand new Shinobi.

@thenikdavies Yep, that seems to be the case. Very cool.

@Cakefish So say I bought this game for Switch 2, my mate on his Series X could play together with me, without owning the game?

It's unlikely I'll ever play this game but if that's possible for some other games, that is very cool indeed.

@dew12333 While true, being able to play with dual mouse and easily change to gyro and mouse by just by llifting it up, is pretty unique And with all the extra buttons and HD Rumble 2, the Switch 2 will have features keyboard and mouse games don't have.

Nintendo's real identity is in their games. I can't see them ever losing that.

They should have doubled the durability.

@MangoMahn Inkopolis would be a perfect setting for Nintendo's GTA.

@Oldstalk I think if it had been priced at £70/ €80 the reaction wouldn't have been so negative. £75/ €90 quite a jump from TOTK's £60/ €70. The US price is about right, they've only had a $10 increase.

For me, I'm not too bothered. DK Bananza's price seems like it'll be the norm. And since I buy mostly digital, I'll get it even cheaper. I will likely get hundreds of hours out of the game, so even if I had to pay £75 for it, I know it'll be worth it.

Me and my mates always chose Diddy Kong Racing over MK64. It was that and Goldeneye for our 4 player sessions. MK64 was my first Mario Kart but I don't really have fond memories of it. I didnt think too much of Double Dash either. It was MKWii when the series clicked for me. It was the first game I really got into online gaming. And prior to Splatoon, it was my most played game of all time, by far. I liked the time trials mode in the Mario Kart TV app better than MK8's. Spent a lot of hours on that too. Hardly touched time trials on MK8D or Deluxe.

@martynstuff That would be SUPERB!

I have never owned a Sony console but I usually keep an eye on what they're up to. And as an outside observer, it seems to me that Sony releases very few brand new games anymore. If I ever was to buy one of the other consoles, it would be an Xbox just for Gamepass, where in the past I'd have leaned towards Playstation because of the big 1st party exclusives. There doesn't seem to be too many of those anymore though.

I hope there's a few courses that are purely water or sky based, like Sonic Racing Transformed or Diddy Kong Racing. From what I've seen so far, it seems to be just sections of some tracks, you transform into a boat or plane.

That's nice of Sony to take some of the heat off Nintendo.

The Switch 2 at 395/ 430 now looks a whole lot better value next to 430/ 480/ 700 for a PS5. And if you want to play in handheld, add on another 200 on for a Portal.

I would think like ARMS, the game will have standard controls too. Surely it has to, so it can be played in handheld mode?

The only thing that concerns me is the lack of stadiums being shown. Hopefully there's huge arenas with fans, as well as a lot of character and wheelchair customisation.

Are all my Switch 1 games that I transfer over going to be lumped together with my Switch 2 games? I assume there will be a filter to separate them on the 'All Software' tab but still I expected there would be something to differentiate them. Perhaps a little icon the corner.

With Game-Key, digital costing less than physical, Game Share and the ability to lend your digital games to members of your family group, Nintendo are making consumer friendly moves on Switch 2 that they should be getting praised for. Instead they're being ripped for their greed.

If I manage to get a Switch 2 at launch, hopefully the bundle, I plan to buy Yakuza 0, Ridge Racer and maybe FAST Fusion depending on reviews. And if I get carried away, one of Cyberpunk or Street Fighter 6. To have a brand new Mario Kart, a definitive port of the best Yakuza , a new generation of Arcade Archives now with online multiplayer and a futurustic Shinen racer that pushes the console , on the first day with my new console, is as good as it gets. Add on the upgraded Zelda games, GameCube games looking close to remasters on NSO app and the excitement of seeing your Switch library transferring over to a new powerful console, and it will be a day one to remember.

As someone who has only had Nintendo consoles since the GameCube, I've only really experienced one sizable generational leap in over 20 years. Wii fo Wii U. And even that wasn't too impressive as HD games been around for years With Switch 2, we'll have a Nintendo consoles that feels modern, for the first time since GC. 1st party games are going look seriously impressive. Imagine what Luigi's Mansion 4 going to look like with 4K HDR 60fps.

I still have a GameCube controller stored away. I haven't used it since the Wii days. I think it still works. I will have to get one of those adapters.

@TbobB I think he's got a crew there and they're taking turns. He says he'll be staying in an AirBnB, so he's not really camping for 2 months.

It's all about the 'clout', likes, views and attention.

I consider myself old school but I've been happy to embrace the digital age with gaming. I much prefer having the game on my console, to having to switch game carts.
On Wii, I had more VC and Wii Shop games than physical games. On Wii U, 90% of my collection was digital and on Switch, I own 6, physical games from a collection of hundreds.

I can't see that changing much on Switch 2 but I'll likely still buy a few physical games with a large file size, to save space. Especially ones that contain the full game on cart, like Cyberpunk. I bought The Witcher 3 physical for this reason.

Talking of The Witcher 3. I hope that gets a Switch 2 upgrades. I'd love to play through it again.

I have got right back into Enter the Gungeon the last few days. I'm now getting further than I ever did before. I love it. So I'll definitely be there for the sequel.

I am a little concerned with the switch to 3D though. We shall see.

I somehow never got around to buying Luigi's Mansion back in the day. I've always wanted to play it. Loved LM3.

If the footage of Wind Waker running on NSO is anything to go by, Luigi's Mansion is going to look almost like a remaster.

The taste of next gen gaming.

At $80 a pop, the last thing you want is your cartridge eaten.

I could barely get my head around Guitar Hero on normal difficulty and I'm not the best with rhythm games in general Add on a steep difficulty and conparisons to Ikaruga and I think it's safe to say, this will be too much for my brain to handle.

@B_Lindz The D-pad on my 2017 Pro was terrible. Fighting games and Tetris were impossible to play without making wrong inputs. However my 2022 Pro is much better. I can easily play Tetris with it now . If the Pro 2 is an improvement on that, then it should be very good.

@Ulysses It's true they're not the same studio but they still managed to make one of the great platformers in Tropical Freeze and must have been in good shape in 2019 for Nintendo to trust them MP4. Hopefuly now, with how things have worked out, Switch 2 will get 3 or 4 Retro Studios games.

Whatever Retro were working on in the 6 years between Tropical Freeze and MP4, surely has to be pretty far along in development. Their only output in those years was Funky Kong. Why would Nintendo have such a quality developer out of action for so long?

I would say they were working on something big for Switch and that's why they weren't given Metroid Prime 4 originally. But whatever it was, was put on hold for a few years to work on MP4. Now with that complete, they can now go back and finish up their game and upgrade it for Switch 2. If that's the case, we hopefully won't be waiting years for their next game.

GameCube games on NSO look much better than on the original hardware.

With higher resolution and it appears some anti aliasing added, WW looks not far off the remastered version.

https://youtu.be/NyKqJH0TQj8?si=62Ku9J-rY4APAezq

@YoshiTails It possibly will work out cheaper. What a strange situation.

I actually like how the Switch 2 case looks. The purple against the Nintendo red looks very nice. If it's like MKW and DKB's case, it should wrap all the way round too. I imagine the inside of the box is red. A little red cart with purple art would look very nice . But it seems for Switch 2 Editions the aesthetic will be spoiled with a standard Switch card.

I find it hard to believe even Metroid Prime 4 will just be the Switch edition with a code. The older games I can somewhat understand but a brand new game that's not even out yet? If so, this won't be well received.

I was watching a Street Fighter 6 comparison video, with NS2 and PS4/5... And the Switch 2 version is so close to the PS5 version. Image quality looks almost the same. The only real difference I noticed was NS2 had the odd NPC or background detail missing. But other than that, it's looks very current gen.

I continue to be surprised by just how powerful the console is. I did not expect this at all.