@Socar Some Super Robot Wars fans may argue whether Fire Emblem is definitive enough as a 'bond with your troops' TRPG, although unless you're playing the Original Generations saga, it cheats a bit by relying on your attachment to the animes used for each particular episode.
Also, the leveling and killing problems you've mentioned have existed in FE's past as well, and in a few ways, FEA still retains them, sad as it may be from a game design standpoint.
@dumedum third option: it is backward compatible, but the Compatibility Controller Pack is sold separately. The GamePad became a separately sold item very very recently, did it not?
@sinalefa considering it was initially announced for the WiiU and confirmed for other platforms afterwards, I'm sure it will.
Probably going to get this, I loved the heck out of Dig and hey, the Western 3DS game library is starved for non-fantasy titles, so they need our support!
@Grumblevolcano oooh, THAT I didn't know, as I play my CODs on PC (except World at War, and I'm still unsure whether the Wii's control scheme for it is some form of torture for arthritis sufferers... Oh, and Modern Warfare on DS, it was surprisingly not bad).
The point stands though: the Wii had way better third-party support than WiiU, up to and including representation of all genres. Both the WiiU and 3DS are being smothered by poor representation of certain genres, mainly because they aren't supported by first-party games at all.
Backwards compatibility should not be a console's main source of games, yes?
@BinaryFragger That quote is weird, considering the first Call of Duty not to land on a Nintendo console was Ghosts, well into the WiiU's lifecycle, as Blops 2 came to WiiU, problematic as it was.
@FullbringIchigo Wasn't it confirmed that if you buy the 3DS game and sync it with the WiiU, you get the new characters in the 'big' game? People were less enthused about this when the list of new characters was empty, of course.
With the shortage of TTBS games on the 3DS, I'll take what I can get. The fact that Noriyuke Iwadare did the music once more is as great a motivation as any.
Ah, I remember the hours wasted on this and Hogan's Alley all those decades ago. Too bad the lightguns of old consoles don't work with LCD HDTVs, as I dust off my famiclone every now and then to get some almost-authentic retro gaming.
@retro_player_22 Now that's a notion I can get behind.
The video is pretty pretty, but I'm amazed anyone can still think Chobot is appropriate to cast in a major capacity in a nerdy sci-fi thing after the hideous backlash her Mass Effect role generated.
You know, the one that was pretty much a kickback to IGN to secure good scores?
@Artwark Are we 100% confirmed on FE Fates having separate translations, or it will be like with FEA where the NA was done first and then was re-censored for the EU?
Because the last time that happened to an Intelligent Systems game, we got Days of Ruin vs Dark Conflict. Half the characterizations were different (and most of the names, too).
For the Gematsu-averse: "In Japan, the game will be released as two titles, Fire Emblem If: White Kingdom and Fire Emblem If: Black Kingdom, for 4,700 yen each. If you buy one verison, you’ll be able to purchase the other for 1,852 yen as downloadable content game. A large part three is also planned for release at the same price somewhere down the line. A limited edition version of the game including all three scenarios will be available for 9,250 yen."
@manu0 what is it with the misconception about paying twice?
Unless you're a 'sealed mint condition' collector, you buy ONE game, then pay for the on-disc DLC unlock, the only difference is that in Japan and NA the first campaign is chosen for you, while in ALL the eShop releases and apparently physical EU release you pick at the TURNING POINT OF DOOM and then have to pay for the unlock to play the other. Once the unlock is bought, the versions are identical.
Nintendo has stated this approximately seven thousand three hundred and eight times. It's not a Pokemon game, yes?
So, it is as was feared? The party play is dead since the competitive-four-player-guitar-battle mode, the one LAN party advantage GH had over Rock Band, is gone?
@Captain_Gonru nominally, it was their own fault as their game allowed a vulnerability of the console to be exploited for hackery. Sort of like it IS the express fault of a milk delivery company if their milkman is replaced by an alien agent which then uses the milk delivery van to infiltrate a military base the milk company services.
That said, if Nintendo would just remove the regionlock themselves, most of this would have been avoided.
@Raien That's actually incredibly on the money. A lot of games that seemingly require the Gamepad only need it for lip service, just like Nintendo forced (yes, children, FORCED) early-wave games on the DS to use the touch screen as a touch screen, rather than a mere second screen, regardless of how relevant it actually was to the gameplay, which resulted in a lot of dubious game design atrocities such as GBA ports with tacked-on touch controls.
The Wii worked because its controls were a semi-natural evolution of gaming controls — for ages we've waved our controllers around when playing Super Mario Bros because we thought it would make Mario jump better. So when it actually did, it WORKED. The WiiU didn't change enough for the evolving industry, imposed limitation upon limitation on the devs (I've heard multiple stories of how devs would complain how developing for the WiiU was difficult, and porting of multiplatform games problematic), and despite the early stoutness of UbiSoft (which was the last of the bigs to abandon multiplat support for the console), there just wasn't enough NEW in the eyes of the decisive consumers - the not-Nintendo-fans.
The fact that Nintendo is still slow to react to the vagaries of the market - repeated ill-informed decisions regarding the Virtual Console, the debut of the console with an 8GB drive in an era where a MOBILE PHONE with 8GB memory is frowned upon (wasn't there a story about a game that would be a pack-in download code for the WiiU, including 8GB, which was TOO LARGE to fit on that?) and the fact that as the PS4 rolls out a model with a 1TB drive, the largest out-of-the-box size the WiiU has is still 32GB, the size of a consumer-average-use SD card these days.
TLDR: Just like the PS3 launch, the WiiU desperately needed a businessman to look at what's happening. We'll see if the changeover of the CEO will do the necessary magic for the NX come next year.
@Smash_kirby that one has been known for a while by the people who used the ROMinjection trick to use the VC to launch other games - the 3DS VC fails to properly play back the Pokemon roars in any of the GB games, which makes it fall below the Nintendo Quality Line of "perfect or GTFO". Now why Famicom Wars wasn't released, THAT's a question.
Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker, actually. You mention there are games that are already out in NA but are just coming to EU and then don't list them? That's kind of demeaning =(
Every time I pass by this mural I keep telling myself I gotta Instagram it, and every time I think that by now, half of Moscow has already probably done so. Still an awesome thing it is, though.
Hmm, methinks I'll hold out till GIR#FE gets its recently-announced-for-Japan bundle in Yurop and THEN get that and whatever games I've missed in the interim.
@TheRaginSteak eShop, yes, play online - no. Unless it's for Smash Bros, because you can't play it online without its own updates, which are on the eShop.
@Zombo Well, it could've been a system-seller. It will probably get an N3DS bundle, just you wait. In any case, I'm glad I'll get to get more mileage out of my CPP.
@edgedino And THAT's why it's a rarity as a Zelda game I'm inclined to buy. I don't understand the hype for the series in general, and have never shared it. The only Zelda games I've enjoyed were the Oracle ones.
I am holding on to the flimsy hope that it will not require an N3DS (and won't take a year to be released in Yurop, either). I don"t own a WiiU, but this is the first Zelda game in decades that I want to get.
Still unclear why they had to release it to N3DS only, as the original, once ported from Flash for the update, was not processor-intensive in any meaning of the word.
@Platinumhobo With the crazy localization adventures of SRW W (reportedly built with the express purpose of being localizable for the West, then shafted because of GoLion/Voltron license-holders, which doesn't make it any less of the best modern Nintendo-platform SRW), I don't think that to be likely. The best we can hope for is either ATLUS taking another risk at localizing an Original Generations game — but we've already skipped three of those — or Bandai or someone else doing a Western Replacement Version using Transformers for example, like they did with Rise of Incarnates as a replacement for the unlicensable Gundam VS.
@ollietaro It features robots from TV shows. It's the series shtick since the Gameboy original all those decades ago - it brings together robots from different anime and manga to do battle together. It's easy in Japan since Bandai holds the licenses for producing stuff based on those IPs, all of them.
Outside of Japan, it's a fustercluck since there's dozens of exclusively licensed distributors for each separate anime for each country.
That is why the only games to be localized were Original Generation games - those that featured ONLY mecha created by Bandai specifically for the series.
@ohako Come on, Mazinger is the most famous non-Gundam franchise in there. "Rocket Punch!" "Rust Hurricane!" and "Breast Fire!" are more famous that "Go Go Power Rangers" or "Cowabunga", I promise.
@Jimtaro Transformers Rise of the Dark Spark on the 3DS is a poor man's Super Robot Wars. It's still worth owning, though.
@Moon the SEGA 3D classics are the cheapest games on the eShop, AND your friend will be able to play without yo-- aaah, is that what your worry is? That they would play someone else if they had their own copy?
@JaguarWong the lack of a fullscreen mode, I believe, was mentioned as one drawback.
@AshFoxX it's actually also why so many GameBoy, GBA and DS games are well-regarded: they restricted what the game devs could do, and then we got gems that would push them beyond our imaginations for the technically-restricted platforms (I'm still amazed that Max Payne Advance ever happened).
@BulkSlash Copyright issues, I'm afraid. Konami may not play ball. @Farpun Now that is a more promising venture, as Comix Zone belongs to SEGA. However, M2 seems to be focusing on Japanese market first, and does anyone remember how well CZ performed there originally, if at all?
@Moon Not enough 3DS games have local multiplayer either. I'd prefer we get both, but for some of us, local is a preference.
I second what @JaxonH said, however: the review could do with a more detailed description of combat, as it's a make-or-break factor for these kind of games.
Comments 613
Re: Sales for Dementium Remastered Have Been Much Lower Than Expected
Is Moon Chronicles out in Europe yet? Is Dementium? Is Treasurenauts? Thought so.
Re: Langrisser Re:Incarnation Tensei Dated For a 19th April Release in the West
@Socar Some Super Robot Wars fans may argue whether Fire Emblem is definitive enough as a 'bond with your troops' TRPG, although unless you're playing the Original Generations saga, it cheats a bit by relying on your attachment to the animes used for each particular episode.
Also, the leveling and killing problems you've mentioned have existed in FE's past as well, and in a few ways, FEA still retains them, sad as it may be from a game design standpoint.
Re: NX Won't Be The Next Version Of Wii Or Wii U, Says Nintendo President Tatsumi Kimishima
@dumedum third option: it is backward compatible, but the Compatibility Controller Pack is sold separately. The GamePad became a separately sold item very very recently, did it not?
Re: SteamWorld Heist Release Date and Pricing Confirmed
@sinalefa considering it was initially announced for the WiiU and confirmed for other platforms afterwards, I'm sure it will.
Probably going to get this, I loved the heck out of Dig and hey, the Western 3DS game library is starved for non-fantasy titles, so they need our support!
Re: Nintendo Download: 3rd December (Europe)
Pokemon Picross, because any Picross is better than lack of Picross.
Re: Timing Of NX Launch Could Help Nintendo Grab Some Of Sony And Microsoft's Market Share, Says Analyst
@Grumblevolcano oooh, THAT I didn't know, as I play my CODs on PC (except World at War, and I'm still unsure whether the Wii's control scheme for it is some form of torture for arthritis sufferers... Oh, and Modern Warfare on DS, it was surprisingly not bad).
The point stands though: the Wii had way better third-party support than WiiU, up to and including representation of all genres. Both the WiiU and 3DS are being smothered by poor representation of certain genres, mainly because they aren't supported by first-party games at all.
Backwards compatibility should not be a console's main source of games, yes?
Re: Timing Of NX Launch Could Help Nintendo Grab Some Of Sony And Microsoft's Market Share, Says Analyst
@BinaryFragger That quote is weird, considering the first Call of Duty not to land on a Nintendo console was Ghosts, well into the WiiU's lifecycle, as Blops 2 came to WiiU, problematic as it was.
Re: Hyrule Warriors Legends Gets a Release Date and 'Female Link', Linkle
@FullbringIchigo Wasn't it confirmed that if you buy the 3DS game and sync it with the WiiU, you get the new characters in the 'big' game?
People were less enthused about this when the list of new characters was empty, of course.
Re: Hyrule Warriors Legends Gets a Release Date and 'Female Link', Linkle
@Baker1000 INB4 "gender selection for all Zelda games from now on!"
Re: Langrisser Re:Incarnation Tensei Confirmed For North American Release
With the shortage of TTBS games on the 3DS, I'll take what I can get. The fact that Noriyuke Iwadare did the music once more is as great a motivation as any.
Re: 3DS Firmware Update Now Available, Stability Remains The Focus
So, have they fixed the horrrible load times for the Home menu on first boot which the previous update introduced?
(Also: pretty sure they can't patch the Cubic Ninja exploit out without rendering the game unplayable).
Re: Review: Wild Gunman (Wii U eShop / NES)
Ah, I remember the hours wasted on this and Hogan's Alley all those decades ago. Too bad the lightguns of old consoles don't work with LCD HDTVs, as I dust off my famiclone every now and then to get some almost-authentic retro gaming.
Re: Video: Jessica Chobot Is Samus Aran In This Lavish Fan-Made Metroid Short
@retro_player_22 Now that's a notion I can get behind.
The video is pretty pretty, but I'm amazed anyone can still think Chobot is appropriate to cast in a major capacity in a nerdy sci-fi thing after the hideous backlash her Mass Effect role generated.
You know, the one that was pretty much a kickback to IGN to secure good scores?
Re: Zelda Fans Vent Anger At Nintendo of America Over Doge Memes In Tri Force Heroes
@Artwark Are we 100% confirmed on FE Fates having separate translations, or it will be like with FEA where the NA was done first and then was re-censored for the EU?
Because the last time that happened to an Intelligent Systems game, we got Days of Ruin vs Dark Conflict. Half the characterizations were different (and most of the names, too).
Re: Project Guard and Fire Emblem Fates Provide Oddities in Nintendo's Upcoming Game Schedule Details
@manu0 http://gematsu.com/2015/04/fire-emblem-if-slated-for-2016-release
Citation provided.
For the Gematsu-averse:
"In Japan, the game will be released as two titles, Fire Emblem If: White Kingdom and Fire Emblem If: Black Kingdom, for 4,700 yen each. If you buy one verison, you’ll be able to purchase the other for 1,852 yen as downloadable content game. A large part three is also planned for release at the same price somewhere down the line. A limited edition version of the game including all three scenarios will be available for 9,250 yen."
Re: Project Guard and Fire Emblem Fates Provide Oddities in Nintendo's Upcoming Game Schedule Details
@manu0 what is it with the misconception about paying twice?
Unless you're a 'sealed mint condition' collector, you buy ONE game, then pay for the on-disc DLC unlock, the only difference is that in Japan and NA the first campaign is chosen for you, while in ALL the eShop releases and apparently physical EU release you pick at the TURNING POINT OF DOOM and then have to pay for the unlock to play the other. Once the unlock is bought, the versions are identical.
Nintendo has stated this approximately seven thousand three hundred and eight times. It's not a Pokemon game, yes?
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th October (Europe)
Devil Survivor 2, finally! (though I will probably be getting it via retail, because reasons).
Re: Review: Guitar Hero Live (Wii U)
So, it is as was feared? The party play is dead since the competitive-four-player-guitar-battle mode, the one LAN party advantage GH had over Rock Band, is gone?
Re: Review: Gunslugs 2 (3DS eShop)
So... It's like Broforce for platforms that don't have Broforce?
Re: Nintendo Download: 22nd October (Europe)
This discount makes me genuinely want to consider getying Conception.
Re: SEGA’s GBA Version Of ChuChu Rocket! Arrives On The Japanese Wii U Virtual Console This Month
Come on, Nintey, this game would be awesome if we could get it on the 3DS without hackery of homebrew emulators.
Re: IRONFALL Invasion Returns to the 3DS eShop Following IRONHAX Issue
@Captain_Gonru nominally, it was their own fault as their game allowed a vulnerability of the console to be exploited for hackery.
Sort of like it IS the express fault of a milk delivery company if their milkman is replaced by an alien agent which then uses the milk delivery van to infiltrate a military base the milk company services.
That said, if Nintendo would just remove the regionlock themselves, most of this would have been avoided.
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th October (Europe)
I feel it's time for me to play Link Between Worlds!
Re: Editorial: A Wii U Price Cut is Still Worthwhile Despite Its Ongoing Woes
@Raien That's actually incredibly on the money.
A lot of games that seemingly require the Gamepad only need it for lip service, just like Nintendo forced (yes, children, FORCED) early-wave games on the DS to use the touch screen as a touch screen, rather than a mere second screen, regardless of how relevant it actually was to the gameplay, which resulted in a lot of dubious game design atrocities such as GBA ports with tacked-on touch controls.
The Wii worked because its controls were a semi-natural evolution of gaming controls — for ages we've waved our controllers around when playing Super Mario Bros because we thought it would make Mario jump better. So when it actually did, it WORKED. The WiiU didn't change enough for the evolving industry, imposed limitation upon limitation on the devs (I've heard multiple stories of how devs would complain how developing for the WiiU was difficult, and porting of multiplatform games problematic), and despite the early stoutness of UbiSoft (which was the last of the bigs to abandon multiplat support for the console), there just wasn't enough NEW in the eyes of the decisive consumers - the not-Nintendo-fans.
The fact that Nintendo is still slow to react to the vagaries of the market - repeated ill-informed decisions regarding the Virtual Console, the debut of the console with an 8GB drive in an era where a MOBILE PHONE with 8GB memory is frowned upon (wasn't there a story about a game that would be a pack-in download code for the WiiU, including 8GB, which was TOO LARGE to fit on that?) and the fact that as the PS4 rolls out a model with a 1TB drive, the largest out-of-the-box size the WiiU has is still 32GB, the size of a consumer-average-use SD card these days.
TLDR: Just like the PS3 launch, the WiiU desperately needed a businessman to look at what's happening. We'll see if the changeover of the CEO will do the necessary magic for the NX come next year.
Re: Nintendo Selects Range on 3DS Has a Handsome Price Point in Europe
Huh, I might actually get Link Between Worlds after this.
Re: Nintendo Has "Moved On" From Game Boy Games on the 3DS Virtual Console
@Smash_kirby that one has been known for a while by the people who used the ROMinjection trick to use the VC to launch other games - the 3DS VC fails to properly play back the Pokemon roars in any of the GB games, which makes it fall below the Nintendo Quality Line of "perfect or GTFO".
Now why Famicom Wars wasn't released, THAT's a question.
Re: Feature: The Biggest 3DS Games of 2015 - Q4 Edition
Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker, actually.
You mention there are games that are already out in NA but are just coming to EU and then don't list them? That's kind of demeaning =(
Re: How A 165-Foot Super Mario Mural Helped Heal The Upset Created By Russian Military Propaganda
Every time I pass by this mural I keep telling myself I gotta Instagram it, and every time I think that by now, half of Moscow has already probably done so.
Still an awesome thing it is, though.
Re: New Euro Wii U Premium Bundle Contains Mario Kart 8 And Splatoon
Hmm, methinks I'll hold out till GIR#FE gets its recently-announced-for-Japan bundle in Yurop and THEN get that and whatever games I've missed in the interim.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final is an All-New Entry in the Atlus Series
Hah, the Famitsu article confirms the green Nemechi-like ghost IS Navarre, firmly placing the story post-SMTIV.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final is an All-New Entry in the Atlus Series
So, shall we make bets how many centuries it will take till it's released in Yurop?
Re: A New Shin Megami Tensei Announcement Has Been Teased by Atlus
@Ryu_Niiyama I think they won't dare put Genei Ibun Roku at risk, so it's not likely they'll bring it to the WiiU.
In other news, with the new pieces removed it's definitely "FINAL". The font is kinda Street Fighter IV-ish one, isn't it?
Re: A New Shin Megami Tensei Announcement Has Been Teased by Atlus
@Uzuki yes, yes we are. I wonder what level of sworcery we'd need to get them to make a SMT Arena?
Re: A New Shin Megami Tensei Announcement Has Been Teased by Atlus
Would be funny if it's a remake of a gaiden, like Majin Tensei or Giten.
Or (gasp) Last Bible IV? Majin Tensei IV?
A port of Nocturne?!
Re: Shenmue's Ryo Hazuki Joins The Growing Cast Of Project X Zone 2
Ungh, don't tell me Sanger isn't in this one =(
Re: 3DS System Update 10.0.0-27 Is Available Now
@TheRaginSteak eShop, yes, play online - no. Unless it's for Smash Bros, because you can't play it online without its own updates, which are on the eShop.
Re: Toon Link Will Reportedly Be Playable in Hyrule Warriors Legends
@Zombo Well, it could've been a system-seller. It will probably get an N3DS bundle, just you wait. In any case, I'm glad I'll get to get more mileage out of my CPP.
@edgedino And THAT's why it's a rarity as a Zelda game I'm inclined to buy. I don't understand the hype for the series in general, and have never shared it. The only Zelda games I've enjoyed were the Oracle ones.
Re: Toon Link Will Reportedly Be Playable in Hyrule Warriors Legends
I am holding on to the flimsy hope that it will not require an N3DS (and won't take a year to be released in Yurop, either). I don"t own a WiiU, but this is the first Zelda game in decades that I want to get.
Re: Nintendo Download: 3rd September (Europe)
Little Battlers, though I might be getting it on a cart if I can find it.
Re: Review: The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (New 3DS)
Still unclear why they had to release it to N3DS only, as the original, once ported from Flash for the update, was not processor-intensive in any meaning of the word.
Re: Check Out Upcoming eShop Treats in the Latest Nindie Sizzle Reel and Batch of Trailers
Good, good. Need to get more games onto Nintendo platforms.
Re: Super Robot Wars BX Battles Its Way to Number One in Japan
@Platinumhobo With the crazy localization adventures of SRW W (reportedly built with the express purpose of being localizable for the West, then shafted because of GoLion/Voltron license-holders, which doesn't make it any less of the best modern Nintendo-platform SRW), I don't think that to be likely. The best we can hope for is either ATLUS taking another risk at localizing an Original Generations game — but we've already skipped three of those — or Bandai or someone else doing a Western Replacement Version using Transformers for example, like they did with Rise of Incarnates as a replacement for the unlicensable Gundam VS.
Re: Super Robot Wars BX Battles Its Way to Number One in Japan
@ollietaro It features robots from TV shows. It's the series shtick since the Gameboy original all those decades ago - it brings together robots from different anime and manga to do battle together. It's easy in Japan since Bandai holds the licenses for producing stuff based on those IPs, all of them.
Outside of Japan, it's a fustercluck since there's dozens of exclusively licensed distributors for each separate anime for each country.
That is why the only games to be localized were Original Generation games - those that featured ONLY mecha created by Bandai specifically for the series.
@ohako Come on, Mazinger is the most famous non-Gundam franchise in there. "Rocket Punch!" "Rust Hurricane!" and "Breast Fire!" are more famous that "Go Go Power Rangers" or "Cowabunga", I promise.
@Jimtaro Transformers Rise of the Dark Spark on the 3DS is a poor man's Super Robot Wars. It's still worth owning, though.
Re: Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire 'Starter Boxes' Coming to Europe in October
Hmm. Maybe I should get one of these games, after all.
Re: Poll: Is Pokkén Tournament The Wii U Release You've Been Waiting For?
Aaand, second game worth buying a WiiU for, as far as I'm concerned. Genei Ibun Roku will be third when it hits Europe.
Re: Review: 3D Gunstar Heroes (3DS eShop)
@Moon the SEGA 3D classics are the cheapest games on the eShop, AND your friend will be able to play without yo-- aaah, is that what your worry is? That they would play someone else if they had their own copy?
@JaguarWong the lack of a fullscreen mode, I believe, was mentioned as one drawback.
Re: Pokkén Tournament Trademark Surfaces In Europe, NFC Connectivity Mentioned
WiiU's second killer app for people with Mario allergies in 3... 2... 1...
Re: This iBookGuy Video Explaining How "Oldschool" Graphics Work Has Deservedly Gone Viral
@AshFoxX it's actually also why so many GameBoy, GBA and DS games are well-regarded: they restricted what the game devs could do, and then we got gems that would push them beyond our imaginations for the technically-restricted platforms (I'm still amazed that Max Payne Advance ever happened).
Re: M2's Porting of Gunstar Heroes To 3DS Was Almost In Vain
@BulkSlash Copyright issues, I'm afraid. Konami may not play ball.
@Farpun Now that is a more promising venture, as Comix Zone belongs to SEGA. However, M2 seems to be focusing on Japanese market first, and does anyone remember how well CZ performed there originally, if at all?
Re: Review: LBX: Little Battlers eXperience (3DS)
@Moon Not enough 3DS games have local multiplayer either. I'd prefer we get both, but for some of us, local is a preference.
I second what @JaxonH said, however: the review could do with a more detailed description of combat, as it's a make-or-break factor for these kind of games.