Well, there was a Princess Peach game, and it was better than its contemporary Super Mario game. Why not a Princess Zelda game... That doesn't have to have Link in it at all, maybe?
(That said, his reaction is kinda stupid - nothing except Japan's bizarre we-all-love-it-but-it's-pervy attitude towards lesbians in media prevents a female Link as it changes nothing in gameplay or story of any game in the franchise — and even so, Girlink saving Zelda does not have to have a romantic angle, it's community service, saving the princess of your kingdom!)
@Tsurii I know THAT. The thing is, if you buy all-eShop, you're paying 5 pounds more, which is not an insignificant sum of money. Unless there's an eShop-specific discount or promotion other than the free theme, this MSRP is rather stewpid.
The whole "but you get to choose!" angle won't work here as all this approach does is skew sales towards physical releases, destimulating Ninty from sorting their online services out.
Wait, that ad you show makes no sense. Why in the nine hells are the eShop versions more expensive than retail? Shouldn't they be two thirds of retail? Nintendo still can't figure out this whole "pricing" thing?
@Shirma_Akayaku it breaks some CIA based homebrew for non-A9LH users, most important of which is Retroarch. It looks like if you're on A9LH though, it does nuffin.
Oy vey. Fire Emblem Awakening got its own hot springs DLC no problem. This is why we can't have nice things.
I agree with one of the above posters, it's curious that all this crap started when Iwata passed away. Atlus has never self-censored previously (aside from the whole Hitler thing in Persona 2, and that was way more justifiable), so it would not seem to be their idea. Persona Q reworked but retained all of its innuendo, after all.
What's next? Renaming swords to 'poking sticks'? Guns to 'happiness sappers'? No kissing on-screen?
I hope this doesn't mean SMTIVF's English version will get censored.
However angry I may be for there not being Metroid 5, the 3DS is deathly short on great shooters, so I'll be getting it regardless. But I'll also complain all along the way!
Buuut what about publishing in Europe, an area traditionally ignored by Atlus except when it's mighty convenient for them to lament low sales in the region?
@Tsurii Yes, but unfortunately most games marketing themselves on being hard do exactly that. It's, well, hard to make a game that's fairly hard (i.e. one you can "git gud" at without involving cheating). Many "Nintendo Hard" games of old were hard because you had to have had suprahuman reflexes to get good beyond a certain point, and many modern retraux games often fail to grasp where the line between "engineered to be hard but beatable" and "engineered to be brutally hard" lies.
@LemonSlice the reason was because a different publisher released the game in Europe and they could only secure the text translation, not the dub. Not that I'm complaining, given the choice, I probably would have still played it in Japanese.
VLR was pretty violent and it seems to be a series tradition to have at least one character with voluminous boobs. Heck, Alice's "top" was pretty much just a large necklace to cover the scandalous bits. Mila's top is chaste by comparison.
If the recent pixel-perfect rebuild of BlargSNES (the VeryHard branch with 3D mode used for resolution doubling) can run SNES games at full speed with crisp quality on O3DS AND then exit to the HOME menu (expectably if you're on CFW so you could install it as a CIA), this means someone is lying.
It only took them a million years and they don't support O3DS, which are still a huge chunk of the platfor's install base, but FINALLY SNES VC is out the gate. Now to wait three more years for GBA VC and new releases at a glacial pace, I presume?
@FierceRagnar I'm moderately sure that marriage, children and incest have been featured in the SNES games as plot and gameplay elements - precisely the reason why they were not officially localized.
Or are you one of those people who thinks the (entirely skippable) queerbaiting and eugenics aspect made Awakening less of a strategy game?
As an O3DS owner the only incentive for me to get an N3DS would be if the old one died suddenly. Or if I got up one morning and said "SNES and Megadrive emulation is not enough for me, that PSOne emulation is to die for!", which isn't as likely as you think.
I'm slightly confused but elated at the addition of SRW-style unit upgrades between levels, as well as the item shop — two things that turn it from a widget game into a legitimate strategy. Well, more legitimate, alright.
Still bummed about no SRW characters appearing this time, though.
@Shirma_Akayaku Awakening was censored in Europe ON TOP of the censorship the Japanese version got in the transition to US (to be specific, several instances of queerbaiting were toned down and the bikini DLC pictures were censored with steam, making an unfortunate side-effect of implying they weren't bikini pictures at all).
So, no, your best bet for anti-censorship is importing the Complete version from Japan, or buying a Japanese 3DS or messing with emuNAND to access the Japanese eShop on an out of region 3DS (as otherwise you will only be able to play one campaign).
TLDR, live with it.
@sillygostly you, sir, win all the Internets for your posts.
I don't think cutting this "it only gets sexual with your spouse" feature from a T-rated game is justifiable in any way in a world where PKMN games featuring the same function - but not limiting the touching to the face - are E-rated.
N.B. When the fudge are we getting a release date for Yurop?
@StickyKeys IIRC they said you can't actually play it as your first playthrough even if you buy the AIO, you gotta finish either of the base campaigns first.
@DTFaux Could be used to argue there's interest for such a remake or gain endorsement (e.g. Black Mesa), could be used as a portfolio piece (how many Quake and Quake 2 modders worked on Quake 3?), etc. Not that wasteful.
The saddest bit is that a post-Fusion Metroid would be character development gold. Samus is now the last Metroid. We'd have bounty hunters ganing up on her, Riddick-style, while she's exercise some of those new mutant powers to become more perfectly human or more monstrous, changing the gameplay and plot and why isn't this game made yet?!
A masterpiece of a game, and I'm glad the songs are there. They provide a lot of fun for the bars (and closure after the boss fights because oy vey, the Queen is a nightmare).
Also, would gladly pay for multiplayer, triply so if the levels would be randomly generated, the core weakness of multiplayer in X-COM-likes, which this game channels in many respects.
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Re: Random: Here's 9 Mighty Reasons Mighty No. 9 Is Only Just Better than Nothing
The good thing that came out of this is Mighty Gunvolt, which is better than this OR Azure Striker Gunvolt. Mainly by being Literally More Mega Man.
Disclosure: Oh yes, I admit to having backed this.
Re: New Atlus and SEGA Publishing Deal is Great News For European Gamers
About bloody time. The two-year wait for SMTIV was an unforgivable exercise in refusing to shut up and take our money.
Re: Eiji Aonuma Rules Out The Option to Play as a Female Link in The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Well, there was a Princess Peach game, and it was better than its contemporary Super Mario game. Why not a Princess Zelda game... That doesn't have to have Link in it at all, maybe?
(That said, his reaction is kinda stupid - nothing except Japan's bizarre we-all-love-it-but-it's-pervy attitude towards lesbians in media prevents a female Link as it changes nothing in gameplay or story of any game in the franchise — and even so, Girlink saving Zelda does not have to have a romantic angle, it's community service, saving the princess of your kingdom!)
Re: Nintendo Download: 26th May (Europe)
Omigods, we're finally getting some of those famed Atlus game discounts for Yurop?! Time to get Untold at last!
Re: Guide: Which Version Of Fire Emblem Fates Should You Buy?
@Tsurii I know THAT. The thing is, if you buy all-eShop, you're paying 5 pounds more, which is not an insignificant sum of money. Unless there's an eShop-specific discount or promotion other than the free theme, this MSRP is rather stewpid.
The whole "but you get to choose!" angle won't work here as all this approach does is skew sales towards physical releases, destimulating Ninty from sorting their online services out.
Re: Guide: Which Version Of Fire Emblem Fates Should You Buy?
Wait, that ad you show makes no sense. Why in the nine hells are the eShop versions more expensive than retail? Shouldn't they be two thirds of retail? Nintendo still can't figure out this whole "pricing" thing?
Re: Monster Hunter Generations Launches on 15th July With a Limited Edition New 3DS XL
Sho pretty <3
If my white O3DS ever bricks because of a hackery accident, this is what I'm hunting down to replace it.
Re: 3DS System Version 11.0.0-33 is Now Available
@Shirma_Akayaku it breaks some CIA based homebrew for non-A9LH users, most important of which is Retroarch.
It looks like if you're on A9LH though, it does nuffin.
Re: Some Unlucky Fire Emblem Fates Customer Have Their Special Edition Pre-Orders Cancelled
Why am I not surprised that GAME is in the middle of this?
Re: Western Localisation Of Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Features Costume And Age Changes
Oy vey. Fire Emblem Awakening got its own hot springs DLC no problem. This is why we can't have nice things.
I agree with one of the above posters, it's curious that all this crap started when Iwata passed away. Atlus has never self-censored previously (aside from the whole Hitler thing in Persona 2, and that was way more justifiable), so it would not seem to be their idea. Persona Q reworked but retained all of its innuendo, after all.
What's next? Renaming swords to 'poking sticks'? Guns to 'happiness sappers'? No kissing on-screen?
I hope this doesn't mean SMTIVF's English version will get censored.
Re: Nintendo Download: 28th April (Europe)
Steamworld DLC, wooo!
Re: Natsume Is Bringing River City: Tokyo Rumble To North America This Year
Having imported the Japanese original, I will not weep if it doesn't come to Europe, but if it will, I'm buying it.
Re: Metroid Prime: Federation Force Liberates North America This August
However angry I may be for there not being Metroid 5, the 3DS is deathly short on great shooters, so I'll be getting it regardless. But I'll also complain all along the way!
Re: Nintendo Download: 21st April (Europe)
Langrisser, definitely. I have to live up to promises made to hours of amazing soundtrackery of its predecessors, after all.
Re: Street Fighter Producer Yoshinori Ono Would Love To See Nintendo Vs. Capcom
To keep up with the Capcom Vs traditions, it would probably have to be a Smash-like game. Or, perhaps, Street Fighter EX-like?
Could be a good system-seller for the NX, no?
Re: Sega of America Will Be Publishing Atlus Games in North America from Now On
Buuut what about publishing in Europe, an area traditionally ignored by Atlus except when it's mighty convenient for them to lament low sales in the region?
Re: Nintendo Download: 31st March (Europe)
Sounds like a good opportunity for me to get the DLCs I still don't have after 90-odd hours of playing the game...
Re: Video: Check Out the Launch Trailer for Slain!
@Tsurii Yes, but unfortunately most games marketing themselves on being hard do exactly that. It's, well, hard to make a game that's fairly hard (i.e. one you can "git gud" at without involving cheating). Many "Nintendo Hard" games of old were hard because you had to have had suprahuman reflexes to get good beyond a certain point, and many modern retraux games often fail to grasp where the line between "engineered to be hard but beatable" and "engineered to be brutally hard" lies.
Re: Zero Time Dilemma Launches on 28th June in North America and Europe
@LemonSlice the reason was because a different publisher released the game in Europe and they could only secure the text translation, not the dub. Not that I'm complaining, given the choice, I probably would have still played it in Japanese.
Re: Rumour Buster: Let's Have A Good Look At That "Leaked" NX Controller
I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to actually ship a console using something like this, especially after the WiiMote.
Re: Zero Time Dilemma Launches on 28th June in North America and Europe
@DoctorOverbuild It IS a sequel. It's SET between the games. Remember that VLR ends with half the cast jumping through time into the past?
Re: Zero Time Dilemma Launches on 28th June in North America and Europe
I wonder if Europe will also get deprived of the voice dubbing, as was the case with the previous game?
Re: Gallery: Take a Look at Famitsu Scans and Screenshots for Zero Time Dilemma
@Spoony_Tech what was censored in that one?
VLR was pretty violent and it seems to be a series tradition to have at least one character with voluminous boobs. Heck, Alice's "top" was pretty much just a large necklace to cover the scandalous bits. Mila's top is chaste by comparison.
Re: Here's Why SNES VC Games Can Only be Played on a New 3DS
If the recent pixel-perfect rebuild of BlargSNES (the VeryHard branch with 3D mode used for resolution doubling) can run SNES games at full speed with crisp quality on O3DS AND then exit to the HOME menu (expectably if you're on CFW so you could install it as a CIA), this means someone is lying.
Re: Video: Catch Up With All of the North American and European Nintendo Direct Videos
It only took them a million years and they don't support O3DS, which are still a huge chunk of the platfor's install base, but FINALLY SNES VC is out the gate.
Now to wait three more years for GBA VC and new releases at a glacial pace, I presume?
Re: Treehouse Veteran Erik Peterson Is Leaving Nintendo After 13 Years
@Socar INB4 Fire Emblem localization jokes?
Re: Miitomo Preregistration is Now Open in 16 Countries
@erv it's like they never learn. What possible harm is there in making them unexpirable?
Re: Mega Man Is Blasting His Way To Nintendo Badge Arcade
@The_BAAD_Man it only loads long when it has updates to download, which is, well, normal for a game that has weekly updates.
Also, great news! I need me some Robot Masters to tag my as-yet-untagged game folders.
Re: USK Listing Reveals Picross 3D: Round 2 for Europe
My wife is addicted to these, so something larger than the short-list-of-puzzles eShop releases will keep her happy quite a while.
Yay!
Re: Here's Exactly What Has Changed With Fire Emblem Fates' "Skinship" Petting Mode
@FierceRagnar I'm moderately sure that marriage, children and incest have been featured in the SNES games as plot and gameplay elements - precisely the reason why they were not officially localized.
Or are you one of those people who thinks the (entirely skippable) queerbaiting and eugenics aspect made Awakening less of a strategy game?
Re: Chasing Aurora Dev Broken Rules Offers To Port Undertale To Wii U
Considering its roots in Mother/Earthbound, I'm sure Undertale would sell exceptionally well on a Nintendo console.
Re: Miitomo to Include Photo Mode and Pre-Registration Will Bring 'Platinum' My Nintendo Point
I'm shocked but also pleased Russia is on list, considering how infamous we are for piracy, DS and 3DS included.
Gonna try this out, then.
Re: Talking Point: The New Nintendo 3DS is Yet to Have a Real Chance to Revive the Portable Family
As an O3DS owner the only incentive for me to get an N3DS would be if the old one died suddenly. Or if I got up one morning and said "SNES and Megadrive emulation is not enough for me, that PSOne emulation is to die for!", which isn't as likely as you think.
And I am a DSi owner.
Re: Hands On: Crossing Over With Project X Zone 2
@LinkSword considering this was a demo of two opening levels, it may be safe to assume it scales back up in subsequent levels?
Re: Nintendo Outlines Details of DLC Map Pack One in Fire Emblem Fates
@Chubblings seconded, we need an EU release date. Or are they not done deciding what to censor out from the US release?
Re: Hands On: Crossing Over With Project X Zone 2
I'm slightly confused but elated at the addition of SRW-style unit upgrades between levels, as well as the item shop — two things that turn it from a widget game into a legitimate strategy. Well, more legitimate, alright.
Still bummed about no SRW characters appearing this time, though.
Re: The Official Fire Emblem Fates Site is Now Live in North America
I am starting to worry, with FEA we've had the Yurop release date by this point =(
Re: Fire Emblem Fates Removes 'Petting' Feature in Western Localisation
@Shirma_Akayaku Awakening was censored in Europe ON TOP of the censorship the Japanese version got in the transition to US (to be specific, several instances of queerbaiting were toned down and the bikini DLC pictures were censored with steam, making an unfortunate side-effect of implying they weren't bikini pictures at all).
So, no, your best bet for anti-censorship is importing the Complete version from Japan, or buying a Japanese 3DS or messing with emuNAND to access the Japanese eShop on an out of region 3DS (as otherwise you will only be able to play one campaign).
TLDR, live with it.
@sillygostly you, sir, win all the Internets for your posts.
I don't think cutting this "it only gets sexual with your spouse" feature from a T-rated game is justifiable in any way in a world where PKMN games featuring the same function - but not limiting the touching to the face - are E-rated.
N.B. When the fudge are we getting a release date for Yurop?
Re: Nintendo Download: 28th January (Europe)
FFE soinds enticing, but I'm too broke and too backlogged on games to get it now. Next New Year's, maybe.
Re: Nintendo Removes Infamous Drugging Scene From Western Localisation Of Fire Emblem Fates
@headfirstslide Agreed, so long as the actual gay characters are unaffected.
Also, wasn't some of the stuff in the US version of FEA more risque than when EU eventually got? Like a re-censorship?
Re: Fire Emblem Fates New Nintendo 3DS XL Model Confirmed, Along With DLC Details
@StickyKeys IIRC they said you can't actually play it as your first playthrough even if you buy the AIO, you gotta finish either of the base campaigns first.
In other news, EU release when?
Re: Nintendo Download: 21st January (Europe)
PxZ2, the wait is almost over!
Re: Shadow Moses Is A Fan-Made Metal Gear Solid For The HD Era
@DTFaux Could be used to argue there's interest for such a remake or gain endorsement (e.g. Black Mesa), could be used as a portfolio piece (how many Quake and Quake 2 modders worked on Quake 3?), etc. Not that wasteful.
Re: North America Gets a Project X Zone 2 Demo on 26th January
Wait, no mention that Europe is getting the same demo on the 21st? Guuuuys.
Re: Nintendo Download: 14th January (Europe)
This reminds me I still haven't played the first Etrian Odyssey Untold. Woah.
Re: Ichiro Hazama Would Like to Keep Making More Theatrhythm Games
Shin Megami Tensei could do with one, given its legendary musical history, but I doubt ATLUS realizes this or that Squeenix would collaborate.
Re: Review: The Delusions of Von Sottendorff and his Square Mind (3DS eShop)
Reminds me a bit of Rooms The Main Building, it had a similar room-moving premise.
Which regions is it out in?
Re: Feature: Why We're Still Playing... Metroid Fusion
The saddest bit is that a post-Fusion Metroid would be character development gold.
Samus is now the last Metroid. We'd have bounty hunters ganing up on her, Riddick-style, while she's exercise some of those new mutant powers to become more perfectly human or more monstrous, changing the gameplay and plot and why isn't this game made yet?!
Re: Interview: Image & Form CEO Talks Steamworld Heist amiibo, Multiplayer And The Kindness Of Nintendo Fans
A masterpiece of a game, and I'm glad the songs are there. They provide a lot of fun for the bars (and closure after the boss fights because oy vey, the Queen is a nightmare).
Also, would gladly pay for multiplayer, triply so if the levels would be randomly generated, the core weakness of multiplayer in X-COM-likes, which this game channels in many respects.
Re: Project X Zone 2 EU Release Date Brought Forward, Demo Coming in January
@TheDavyStar "too easy" is a relative term, but yes, yes it was.