@TheDavyStar technically not true — II was a direct sequel to I, and Apocalypse is a what-if sequel to IV. But still, please let it be a proper V. With proper Moon mechanics and none of that gameplay simplification Apocalypse had.
@GravyThief That depends, how good your Japanese is, and do you want to go for "fun time" or "original hardcore experience"?
Either of the two Devil Survivor on the 3DS if the first (they're upgrades of the DS originals, they're not connected by plot, only by using the same engine) or Shin Megami Tensei IV for the 3DS if the second.
Extra hard option: Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey on the DS is better as a story, but is more old-skool as a game. Soul Hackers on the 3DS is an awesome game, but it's a tad too brutally complex for someone new to the series' mechanics.
Persona Q heavily depends on you being intimately familiar with Persona 3 and 4 (as it spoils the crap out of both of them and is generally a game-shaped fanservice session) neither of which were on Nintendo consoles.
TMS is like an apology for Persona series' Sony exclusivity to Nintendo fans, it is not representative of the other games on Nintendo consoles, but that doesn't make it a bad game.
All older Nintendo-based games are available in Japanese only except for Revelations the Demon Slayer, but that is a rebranded localization of a spinoff to a spinoff, so I wouldn't recommend starting with it.
TLDR: Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker is a perfect jumping on point if you're not into minmaxey JRPGs, as it does a great job of easing you into how common franchise mechanics work AND is an awesome game.
@Gorlokk Nope, but given the knowledge that the Switch is underpowered compared to a PS4, it may be a combination of the two. Original visuals with updated content kind of thing.
@Ernest_The_Crab until Persona Q we generally had to wait upwards of six months to a record of never (the DS version of DeSu 1 was canceled because the 3DS port was announced by the time it would have released, for example). SMTIVA came out shockingly fast, I presume because of SEGA's management.
@Ernest_The_Crab I think he meant the fact that it took SMTIV almost THREE YEARS to get released in Europe after Japan. That lag turns an early adopter killer app into a system swan song, which is precisely what happened to #FE/TMS.
Hee-ho! Great news, having MegaTen and SRW are major contributors for me getting a new console, and I'm moderately certain Bamco will start covering the Switch to continue its 3DS line of SRWs.
Unless that $300 tag is for a premium console with pack-in games, it'll be a rerun of WiiU pricing problems, since that's what an Ecks Bawks Wan costs with a pack-in game or two in many places.
Oh, sure, except this time we have a unique selling point in the megaportability. Hmm. I'd still prefer it was a $250 tag and corresponding foreign equivalents.
@BulbasaurusRex came here to post just that. The NES Mini and most of its guides make the same mistake - get the earlier games in the series rather than the best games in the series. Mega Man 3, Duck Tales 2, Super C, TMNT 3, Battletoads and Double Dragon, people!
@whodatninja that's 32 built-in, tack on 128 of an SDXC card and you're good-ish. Unless they meant the CARTRIDGES have 32g storage, which is a crapton compared to the 3DS.
And 3 hours is about what you get from an O3DS on max brightness, in 3D mode, with Wi-Fi on and a CPP, or as I like to call it, "trying to co-op Monster Hunter at a StreetPass meetup". Replacing the proprietary plug with a USB means external chargers and any cafe or your workplace being stopover points to fill up - a common thing for anyone gaming on an Android phone. Not a problem at all.
@Senpai_Bruh All-of-a-sudden? They were the last big-names to abandon WiiU multiplat support, and brought tons of games to the 3DS. Ubi loves Nintendo enough that they held out for so darn long. This is a return to good relations!
@Jumpman If it's anything like its predecessor, then it's a Bluetooth controller with a separately-sold adapter for the console it's based on, as was done with the original 8BITDO and the SNES.
@nhSnork Not enough controller buttons, I'm afraid.
@impurekind there is an issue regarding mappers. The included games rely on the most common and simple mappers. I get it, Lagrange Point and its unique mapper isn't high on anyone's list of tops, but some of the later, newer, prettier, games, may not run on the included emulator unless it is replaced by something else. (I guess the ultimate goal is whether FCEUMM or a defanged derivative can be used, since it supports most mappers known to man including Chinese-pirate-made-to-port-Genesis-games ones).
@SomeBitTripFan you DO know there's companies out there that produce USB-cable replicas of SNES controllers, right? And USB adaptors for SNES controllers (most of them function via DInput rather than XInput though, so you can use them with emulators but not all modern games).
@NintendoVideoGa it is fashionable to make pachinko of all IPs. There are NGE pachinko on multiple systems, for example, including 8, I believe, on the DS. Yes, eight.
It won't compete with the mobile gaming market, but it will steal consumers from it. Don't forget, 99% of mobile and tablet games aren't games per se, not in the sense that 3DS or Amiga or PC-98 games are games. That is an advantage the Switch can use.
I'm still glad I skipped the WiiU. My Wii served me well all these years and game parties, and now that it's starting to show wear, I can hope to replace it with something that would also live long with me.
@NintyFan Not with Nintendo's alleged "we'd scrap a 95% complete game if it wasn't up to our standards of quality" policy. The only other company with that attitude is Blizzard. Well, used to be Blizzard, then the nineties ended, and Diablo 2's cavalcade of patchery happened.
Woot, a discount for DeSu2! I was considering finally getting the 3DS version in retail instead of replaying the DS original, but with a discount for e-shop...
@Don don't forget that China is the source of ALL of the world's clone consoles, NES, SNES, Genesis, all the Gameboys, I've seen items that look suspiciously like clone DSes... They don't need Nintendo's help, not in that.
Ace Attorney DLC, but also will keep an eye on River City. Having imported one of the Japanese 3DS releases of the series I know it's worth the money, I just don't HAVE the money right now.
2D Metroid, or a successor to Prime that ISN'T an interquel. The continuity is stretched to breaking point as it is despite the idea that Samus IS the Metroid being perfect for a new game, 2D or 3D, post-Fusion.
@Piersen FWIW, Pokémon itself wasn't the first 'Mon game to begin with, just the first to find a large userbase due to being significantly more kid-friendly than Shin Megami Tensei. And having an anime actually worth watching.
If it lets them keep making games, great. If it keeps Watsham from moaning about bad sales although half their games aren't available in Europe, even better.
Conception sounds acceptable at this price... And that's about it aside from the Phoenix Wright demo, which I may skip to avoid spoiling my appettite for the real deal.
@Tlink7 For the exact same reasons as its predecessors? Junpei's twisted sense of humour and an unpredictable ridiculously Wikipedia-crawl-inducing storyline.
Also, the voiceovers aren't worse than in any other modern game on the 3DS, for sure. Owait, I'm playing with Japanese voices for continuity because the EU release of VLR wasn't dubbed. Yay for seiiyu reliability!
@AshFoxX Like in VLR, hold out till the magic superpowers kick in so the stuff starts getting connected. There's a reason the events don't show up on the meta flowchart until you've completed them.
Hopefully this will remind Nintendo that an ACTUAL NEW METROID GAME is well past due right now, and not a spinoff or ANOTHER interquel. The world didn't need Other M. The world needed Metroid 5. The world still needs Metroid 5, in fact, perhaps as an NX launch title?
FWIW, the cutting into sales of VC Metroid 2 excuse is lame. Anyone who wanted it, already picked it up, be it for Club Nintendo coins or real cash money. The use of assets from the GBA games is a majorer issue.
Several newspapers in Russia cited Nintendo of Russia promising rollout there by the end of this week. Not that Valor hasn't already taken over most of the gyms in Moscow...
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Re: Fire Emblem Nintendo Direct Confirmed for 18th January
Gods dammit, new Advance Wars, when?
Re: Atlus Is Bringing Shin Megami Tensei To Nintendo Switch
@TheDavyStar technically not true — II was a direct sequel to I, and Apocalypse is a what-if sequel to IV.
But still, please let it be a proper V. With proper Moon mechanics and none of that gameplay simplification Apocalypse had.
Re: Atlus Is Bringing Shin Megami Tensei To Nintendo Switch
@GravyThief That depends, how good your Japanese is, and do you want to go for "fun time" or "original hardcore experience"?
Either of the two Devil Survivor on the 3DS if the first (they're upgrades of the DS originals, they're not connected by plot, only by using the same engine) or Shin Megami Tensei IV for the 3DS if the second.
Extra hard option: Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey on the DS is better as a story, but is more old-skool as a game. Soul Hackers on the 3DS is an awesome game, but it's a tad too brutally complex for someone new to the series' mechanics.
Persona Q heavily depends on you being intimately familiar with Persona 3 and 4 (as it spoils the crap out of both of them and is generally a game-shaped fanservice session) neither of which were on Nintendo consoles.
TMS is like an apology for Persona series' Sony exclusivity to Nintendo fans, it is not representative of the other games on Nintendo consoles, but that doesn't make it a bad game.
All older Nintendo-based games are available in Japanese only except for Revelations the Demon Slayer, but that is a rebranded localization of a spinoff to a spinoff, so I wouldn't recommend starting with it.
TLDR: Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker is a perfect jumping on point if you're not into minmaxey JRPGs, as it does a great job of easing you into how common franchise mechanics work AND is an awesome game.
Re: Skyrim Confirmed for Nintendo Switch
@Gorlokk Nope, but given the knowledge that the Switch is underpowered compared to a PS4, it may be a combination of the two. Original visuals with updated content kind of thing.
Re: Atlus Is Bringing Shin Megami Tensei To Nintendo Switch
@Ernest_The_Crab until Persona Q we generally had to wait upwards of six months to a record of never (the DS version of DeSu 1 was canceled because the 3DS port was announced by the time it would have released, for example). SMTIVA came out shockingly fast, I presume because of SEGA's management.
Re: Atlus Is Bringing Shin Megami Tensei To Nintendo Switch
@Ernest_The_Crab I think he meant the fact that it took SMTIV almost THREE YEARS to get released in Europe after Japan. That lag turns an early adopter killer app into a system swan song, which is precisely what happened to #FE/TMS.
Re: Nintendo Switch Will Cost £279.99 In The UK
Russia is getting it at 23K Rubles, that's around $375 or £300. I am already fearful of what the Brazilian price will be.
Re: Square Enix Announces Project Octopath Traveler For Nintendo Switch
@Radixxs Half the gaming world would want a TWEWY sequel, period. On anything.
Re: Atlus Is Bringing Shin Megami Tensei To Nintendo Switch
Hee-ho!
Great news, having MegaTen and SRW are major contributors for me getting a new console, and I'm moderately certain Bamco will start covering the Switch to continue its 3DS line of SRWs.
Re: Rumour: Target Will Sell Nintendo Switch For $299.99, 15 Titles Possible At Launch
Unless that $300 tag is for a premium console with pack-in games, it'll be a rerun of WiiU pricing problems, since that's what an Ecks Bawks Wan costs with a pack-in game or two in many places.
Oh, sure, except this time we have a unique selling point in the megaportability. Hmm. I'd still prefer it was a $250 tag and corresponding foreign equivalents.
Re: Suda51 Wants To Harness The Nintendo Switch To Find "A Cool New Way To Play"
Suda, please make something brilliant for us. We will shower you with moneys and praise.
Re: Feature: Ten Classic Games Which Would Be Great To Play On The NES Mini
@BulbasaurusRex came here to post just that. The NES Mini and most of its guides make the same mistake - get the earlier games in the series rather than the best games in the series.
Mega Man 3, Duck Tales 2, Super C, TMNT 3, Battletoads and Double Dragon, people!
Re: More Switch Rumors From Laura Kate Dale
@whodatninja that's 32 built-in, tack on 128 of an SDXC card and you're good-ish. Unless they meant the CARTRIDGES have 32g storage, which is a crapton compared to the 3DS.
And 3 hours is about what you get from an O3DS on max brightness, in 3D mode, with Wi-Fi on and a CPP, or as I like to call it, "trying to co-op Monster Hunter at a StreetPass meetup". Replacing the proprietary plug with a USB means external chargers and any cafe or your workplace being stopover points to fill up - a common thing for anyone gaming on an Android phone. Not a problem at all.
Re: Rumour: Assassin's Creed Egypt To Release Simultaneously On PS4/Xbox/Switch
@Senpai_Bruh All-of-a-sudden? They were the last big-names to abandon WiiU multiplat support, and brought tons of games to the 3DS. Ubi loves Nintendo enough that they held out for so darn long.
This is a return to good relations!
Re: Retro-Bit Generations Portable And Super Retro Boy Handheld Coming To CES 2017
@Jumpman If it's anything like its predecessor, then it's a Bluetooth controller with a separately-sold adapter for the console it's based on, as was done with the original 8BITDO and the SNES.
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th December (Europe)
Well, that's an underwhelming discount selection.
Re: Nintendo Download: 8th December (Europe)
SMT DLC, yay!
Re: Nintendo Download: 1st December (Europe)
Gosh darnit all the way to heck,what to get first, Picross 3D or SMTIVA?
Re: European Wii U and 3DS eShop Cyber Deals Now Confirmed
Hmm, oughta pick up Boxboxboy, just finished the first one.
Re: Nintendo Download: 24th November (Europe)
Not a Poképerson, so Picross for me!
Re: A Japanese Hacker Has Cracked The Famicom Mini Already
@nhSnork Not enough controller buttons, I'm afraid.
@impurekind there is an issue regarding mappers. The included games rely on the most common and simple mappers. I get it, Lagrange Point and its unique mapper isn't high on anyone's list of tops, but some of the later, newer, prettier, games, may not run on the included emulator unless it is replaced by something else.
(I guess the ultimate goal is whether FCEUMM or a defanged derivative can be used, since it supports most mappers known to man including Chinese-pirate-made-to-port-Genesis-games ones).
Re: Random: The Classic Controller Can Be Used to Reset the NES Mini
@SomeBitTripFan you DO know there's companies out there that produce USB-cable replicas of SNES controllers, right? And USB adaptors for SNES controllers (most of them function via DInput rather than XInput though, so you can use them with emulators but not all modern games).
Re: Four Lost Satellaview Kirby Games Have Been Recovered
@NintendoVideoGa it is fashionable to make pachinko of all IPs. There are NGE pachinko on multiple systems, for example, including 8, I believe, on the DS. Yes, eight.
Re: Nintendo Switch Won't Be Sold At A Loss, Two Million Units To Ship In Time For March
Hoping for a €200-250 window.
It won't compete with the mobile gaming market, but it will steal consumers from it. Don't forget, 99% of mobile and tablet games aren't games per se, not in the sense that 3DS or Amiga or PC-98 games are games. That is an advantage the Switch can use.
I'm still glad I skipped the WiiU. My Wii served me well all these years and game parties, and now that it's starting to show wear, I can hope to replace it with something that would also live long with me.
Re: Nintendo Download: 27th October (Europe)
Corpse Party for me, although probably not right away. Blew a chunk of my paycheck on a Super Famicom and some games, gotta wait for more moneyz.
Re: Rumour: NX's September Reveal Was Delayed Because Console's Mario Game "Wasn't Running Perfectly"
@NintyFan Not with Nintendo's alleged "we'd scrap a 95% complete game if it wasn't up to our standards of quality" policy.
The only other company with that attitude is Blizzard. Well, used to be Blizzard, then the nineties ended, and Diablo 2's cavalcade of patchery happened.
Re: Nintendo Download: 20th October (Europe)
Woot, a discount for DeSu2! I was considering finally getting the 3DS version in retail instead of replaying the DS original, but with a discount for e-shop...
Re: Capcom UK Gets Hopes Up for a Localisation of The Great Ace Attorney
Didn't they come out on Sunday with admittance they used the music just because the person that put the video together liked it?
Re: Pokémon GO Continues Its Quest For World Domination
@Don don't forget that China is the source of ALL of the world's clone consoles, NES, SNES, Genesis, all the Gameboys, I've seen items that look suspiciously like clone DSes... They don't need Nintendo's help, not in that.
Re: Feature: The Biggest Wii U and 3DS Games of 2016 - Fall / Winter Edition
Only Corpse Party for me off this list. Maaaybe Case Closed, although I'm one of the seven people in the world that didn't like Hotel Dusk.
Still have a lot of already-released stuff to catch up on.
Re: Video: New NES Mini Trailer Shows Off Games, Display Options And User Interface
@BensonUii That picture gives me the heebie jeebies from MY childhood. Isn't that from Saint Seiya?
Re: Nintendo Download: 29th September (Europe)
Ace Attorney DLC, but also will keep an eye on River City. Having imported one of the Japanese 3DS releases of the series I know it's worth the money, I just don't HAVE the money right now.
Re: Feature: Five Franchises That Deserve A Fresh Chance on the Nintendo NX
2D Metroid, or a successor to Prime that ISN'T an interquel. The continuity is stretched to breaking point as it is despite the idea that Samus IS the Metroid being perfect for a new game, 2D or 3D, post-Fusion.
Re: Corpse Party is Coming to the 3DS in Europe
Phew, glad I won't have to pirate it to play it.
Re: EA Had Plans To Create Its Own Pokémon Competitor
@Piersen FWIW, Pokémon itself wasn't the first 'Mon game to begin with, just the first to find a large userbase due to being significantly more kid-friendly than Shin Megami Tensei. And having an anime actually worth watching.
Re: Nintendo Download: 15th September (Europe)
Wait, how does the thing with the Ace Attorney themes work?
Re: Review: Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice (3DS eShop)
Glad to know they've recovered form after DD. Now, how do we get CAPCOM to localize The Great Ace Attorney...
Re: Renegade Kid Closes as Co-Founders Launch Separate Studios
If it lets them keep making games, great. If it keeps Watsham from moaning about bad sales although half their games aren't available in Europe, even better.
Re: Nintendo Download: 25th August (Europe)
Conception sounds acceptable at this price... And that's about it aside from the Phoenix Wright demo, which I may skip to avoid spoiling my appettite for the real deal.
Re: Review: Zero Time Dilemma (3DS)
@Tlink7 For the exact same reasons as its predecessors? Junpei's twisted sense of humour and an unpredictable ridiculously Wikipedia-crawl-inducing storyline.
Also, the voiceovers aren't worse than in any other modern game on the 3DS, for sure. Owait, I'm playing with Japanese voices for continuity because the EU release of VLR wasn't dubbed. Yay for seiiyu reliability!
Re: Review: Zero Time Dilemma (3DS)
@AshFoxX Like in VLR, hold out till the magic superpowers kick in so the stuff starts getting connected. There's a reason the events don't show up on the meta flowchart until you've completed them.
Re: Pokémon Live Action Movie Could Be Penned By Writers Of Guardians Of The Galaxy And Gravity Falls
Howzabout releasing the game in the West first?
Re: Gallery: Get to Know the Cast of River City: Tokyo Rumble
So, is this the localization of the very first 3DS Kunio game (so, basically, a Kunio-Kun-ized version of Renegade) or a brand-new one?
Re: Nintendo Issues Takedown Notices for Impressive Fan-Made Metroid II Remake, AM2R
Hopefully this will remind Nintendo that an ACTUAL NEW METROID GAME is well past due right now, and not a spinoff or ANOTHER interquel. The world didn't need Other M. The world needed Metroid 5. The world still needs Metroid 5, in fact, perhaps as an NX launch title?
FWIW, the cutting into sales of VC Metroid 2 excuse is lame. Anyone who wanted it, already picked it up, be it for Club Nintendo coins or real cash money. The use of assets from the GBA games is a majorer issue.
Re: Atlus Reveals New DLC Details for Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
@antipop621 It's not insufferable once you learn the shoulder buttons rotate it. I mean, I'm colourblind and I had no issues with it.
Re: Atlus Reveals New DLC Details for Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse
@JaxonH Forgot Zero Time Dilemma, did you?
Re: Level-5 Trademark Filings in Europe Suggest Future Projects
@Jamotello Not that likely after the messy way they rereleased the first Inazuma Eleven, I think.
Re: Level-5 Trademark Filings in Europe Suggest Future Projects
@Piersen well, as Layton Brothers has shown us, he has at least one son. Or two sons, depends on how you count.
Re: Nintendo Download: 21st July (Europe)
Kirby demo, and some DLC?
Re: Pokémon GO is Now Available in the UK
Several newspapers in Russia cited Nintendo of Russia promising rollout there by the end of this week. Not that Valor hasn't already taken over most of the gyms in Moscow...