Mana_Knight

Oh, so this is not a port of Land of Illusion on the Megadrive? I have never heard of this on the Snes otherwise.

Any chance of a surprise E-shop demo drop? I imagine not for a game like this.

Aw. He was wonderful. He also really embraced that people loved him for being Prof. Oak. He was a stage actor too, and loved that younger cast members would often approach him to ask about it. He would often take part in videos for Youtubers to provide the voice too. An iconic part of many Nintendo Lifer's childhoods, I am sure.

Transferring everything from SW1 takes some time, which is understandable given the volume of data, but since then it has been great for me. Definitely better than SW1.

Really hope Switch 2 gets a version of these. It was a good scheme, especially when combined with Gold coins.

@Jhena Thank you! Big yes to both. Heavenly is a great description for SOM music and Child of Light is indeed like a living moving painting you can control!

@The_Nintend_Pedant A good point. Neither do people really say they have written a product or filmed a product for cinema now you mention it. Yet, for games, the phrase somehow fits a little neater in my mind. Funny that. I think video games are just very unique in this fashion as a medium. To me, anything that inspires one or holds a deeper meaning in some fashion makes something art. As others have said, the definition of art is likely to be unique to each and every one of us.

Video games were hugely influential to me going into voice acting, with video games being a speciality for me, continuing the cycle of creation inspiring creation I guess!

@Jhena Yep. For me, Secret of Mana is art. The music, folklore, story, and thematic feelings continue to inspire me and touch my soul. Another one I would cite is 'Child of Light'. For me, if it inspires someone or holds deep meaning, then it can be art for them. We can't say it is not. It just happens to have been something that people were paid to make and then sold. That is the world we live in, no getting around it. These cost a lot to make. The fact it has monetary value does not mean the person responsible, be it a programmer, musician, or sprite artist etc etc, had no passion or personal meaning behind what they infused it with.

Anyway, good and interesting discussion with plenty of good points from all. 🤗

People don't sell paintings at auctions for free.

They can be both.

@Orwellian87 He's the first member of the DK crew!

His Coconut gun can fire in spurts.

I might wait for Kirby and The Forgotten Land DLC first myself and see how I feel after. I know that is long way off still, but I think I need to assess whether this game will overwhelm me or not from the feedback. Just not too good with games that are toooo big. It is why I struggle with open world games. I still think it looks amazing and so pleased people are excited for it. 😊

@JohnnyMind Subbed! I will drop a hello sometime on a video.

@JohnnyMind What should I look up on Youtube to find the channel? If you don't...mind..😏me looking.

@JohnnyMind Haha. No, it is cool. Just did not compute for a second. It is a good logo. I will look up the channel on Youtube in that case.

Satire died and took nuance with it.

As others have said, you can dislike the update, but this surely does not erase ALL good points of the game you liked before?
That would indicate the 1 and only thing you liked about the game was the race structure? Not the music, feeling, graphics etc etc.

@Dazman You've cracked the Sega mindset!

I love SA2B and SADX so much, every Sonic game that has come after has never quite done it for me. Mania was an excellent game, but a different beast being 2d.

@JohnnyMind Johnny, you changed your picture and I am now thrown! Haha.

Japan, Europe, then NA.

Ironically, for a game with 'Darkside' in the title, a lighter brighter scheme works far better!

@Sambuc They actually did! In 2023, the Switch had PUZZLE BOBBLE EVERYBUBBLE! It is a Switch exclusive I think. Unless you mean do another one since then?

Oooh. I love Bubble Bobble. It will always be special to me as it was my brother and I's favourite Nes game to play co-op. Later, I would play the Bust a move games with my Mum on the N64, so this franchise will always be dear to me. Does not look radically different to a normal bubble bobble game really, but I am still interested. 🥰

Also, surely it is time for a new Yoshi game?
Or that supposed Wooly World port?

Yoshi Story is Number 1 for me, always.
I love it still to this day. Island takes 2nd though.

Yoshi's Story will always be special to me. It was the first N64 game I chose with the console. Not Mario 64. Not 007. Not Mario Kart. I wanted Yoshi!!!
I saved up for so long for that console, helping my Mum with whatever tasks I could. She was an Estate agent at the time and let me deliver leaflets for them as well as putting letters into envelopes. I was 10, so it very much taught me the value of hard work etc. With that money, I was able to buy the N64 and Yoshi.
Also, my Mum took me to the Circus that day too. So, it will always stick with me and I will love this game.

@Buizel Looks like it has been bumped up to 11 already. Think users are giving it ratings now to have it rectified! As others have said, weird list of games really.

Turns on game.

'NEEEEENTENDO'

The first (and only?) time they had characters announce the company. Like the SEGA opening, only much cuter.

""As easy as it is to boil our original post down to “you’re holding it wrong,” what we’re sober to now is...."

So...they were drunk when they responded to the critique? Or just when they made the product?

I keeed. I know what they mean, but a strange choice of words all around.

Dum-Dum-Dum-Dum...Yoshi!

Is it the least Nintendo looking Nintendo game to date? Anyone have any other contenders? If I saw it without prior knowledge, I would not guess it was by them.

@karatekid1612 Yep, I have no understanding of how it is 'slow' or what that really means. I can't see it. Ignorance is bliss I guess.

Can't say I noticed anything wrong myself.

@Gamebits This is the wildest part. What a moron. If he did it to sell on...that is still horrible and robbing the state and community, but he didn't! He just kept them? Unless someone reserved them, he could have kept checking them out for free for weeks!

Also, Americans, you are so lucky in this respect! Libraries in the UK do not, at least none I have ever seen, rent out games.

Still, must not grumble, as I like to say, if I actually bought every book I read, I would have no money at all. Libraries are such a fantastic part of society. I am grateful they exist.

Justice for Sonic Boom.
It is not the worst! Cronky. Clippy. Weird. Unfinished, but I enjoyed it all the same. I could describe it as closer to a Ratchet and Clank and Crash Bandicoot game than a Sonic game.

Daisy. My beloved Harvest Moon cow on the original gameboy, I will never forget you.

Actually, you were a memory just unlocked now...but the sentiment of my appreciation remains.

Donkey and Diddy appear twice on the European cover, but somehow still feels like not enough. They are too small with lots of empty space.

Excuse me now, going to try and find that Don't Stop Me Now cover from Donkey Konga on Youtube. Is it any good? I don't know. I just....can't tell, but I like it. Or do I?

The Letters page is always a good read. Editor response envokes a memory of the sort of answers you got from 90s Nintendo magazines. Not sure if intentional, but I like it that way.

@Suketoudara LOL.

Of all the deep Sega roster they could have pulled from? I honestly think Sega fans would have appreciated things like Samba De Amiga, Billy Hatcher, NiGhts, etc etc more.

@Cikajovazmaj ..Beat-Em-Ups? Per chance?

I find it unlikely that we would be looking at 2029-2030 for a brand new Mario 3d game. 12 to 13 years since Oddesy? I know Nintendo love to take their time to make it right, but that seems too long for them to leave Mario.

@Dee123 I know....
Thankfully, they are not popping up quite as frequent in my YT recommendations since the launch...but they are still around in toxic droves spinning whatever they can this way and that.

If you listen closely on a quiet dark night, some say you can still hear the fading echos of the Nintendoomed youtubers.

I hope there's an Eshop demo, but I have a feeling it's just TOO big for that. The really big titles like Mario and Zelda usually don't get one, except for those in-store or event-specific demos.

@acgp From my understanding, it is because the game has basis in the Jules Verne classic novel 'Journey To The Centre Of The Earth'. No idea how much truth there is to it, but people have been pointing out a lot of references to it. I can see it myself now and it is quite wild if so. Maybe a lead creator was a fan? We had Pokemon and Pikmin stemming from childhood interests and hobbies, so maybe it was someones favourite book growing up!

@Rebusmind I honestly think this is the system seller over Mario Kart too. I get why they did Mario Kart, with it being the number 1 best seller Switch game by a country mile, but this exudes true original Nintendo zany magic and fun.

@eldersnake This too.

At the old price of NS1 games at £40-42 via voucher? YEP!
60-65. Hmm.

@Dev-N This is slightly holding me back too. I just don't do well with overwhelmingly big or too many collecting things. It looks fab and fun...and I appreciate the assist mode being there too, but just little worried if there is too much!

Top Banana.

This smashed what everyone expected.

Didn't someone in the forum post about this happening to them? They never named the brand, but maybe it was this one they got.

@OctolingKing13 Agreed. Honestly, the biggest issue with this game that I see people complaining about, and for good reason, is where and how it fits with everything that came before! Haha. It is a minor thing in the grand scheme of 'is this a good game' and no real bearing....but gamers do like our nonsensical video games to follow some history