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Nintendo Tested Two Other Zelda Titles in HD on the Wii U

Posted by Orla Madden

Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword in HD does sound good

When considering graphical approaches for the new Legend of Zelda title currently in development for Wii U, Nintendo experimented with several art styles; The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker wasn't the only game in the popular series that the company tried out in HD.

Speaking with Polygon, series producer Eiji Aonuma revealed that the team tried and tested The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword in HD on the Wii U.

When we were thinking about the new Zelda for Wii U, which is something we're actually working on, we needed to experiment with a variety of graphic styles and it was part of that process we took some existing Zelda games and made them HD just to see what would happen. In doing so we realized that the Wind Waker graphic style, the art style, really represented well on the Wii U given the graphic capabilities of the new system. It really brought that world to life.

This venture of course led to the decision to remake The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD, but what about the GameCube title's successors?

I can’t say that the possibility is zero that those will be made into HD, but right now I need to work on the next installation in the series so I don’t have the bandwidth to do that right now. But maybe it will happen if someone else does it.

It's perhaps too soon to consider remakes of Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, as both were released on Wii (and GameCube, with Twilight Princess), and the console is still very much on the market. In principle both would certainly look rather attractive in HD.

If you want to see just how good The Wind Waker HD looks, meanwhile, you can check out 10 minutes of footage that we recorded just for you. In the meantime let us know which, if any, of the two Wii titles you'd like to see get the remake treatment in the future.


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TheEmerlLad said:

Tp would look gorgeous in it's own right. All the bleak and rustic tones of the game. Smoothed out, and in high gamma. It'll look really trippy!



yojo said:

I would like either, but I honestly would prefer having TP remade, and maybe fixing the issue of it having no color...



AyeHaley said:

How is this news? They already stated this when they announced Wind Waker HD.



SilentHunter382 said:

While it would be nice to have TP HD version I feel that they should wait and see how windwaker does overall for a year before beginning on either.



chiptoon said:

I'd buy them both in a second, and try not to hate myself for being a sucker.



edcomics said:

I think Nintendo should be releasing bite-sized Zelda games so there's not such a huge wait between releases. Bringing back old games in HD is a nice idea as a supplement... but these are still old games that many of us have played before. I can't get excited until I see something truly new.



Nintenjoe64 said:

I wouldn't buy either because it's too soon.

I still hold out hopes for a fully 3D LttP remake and a proper HD remaster of OoT and MM. If they could throw some SS controls into the mix I think they'd be as good as any Zelda Wii U that we get.



Nintenjoe64 said:

Also, if Nintendo are reading, how about Link's Crossbow Training 2 with a new Zapper that accomodates the gamepad like the e3 2011 video. Use the tech demo graphics and have more 3rd person levels where the gamepad shows what you're aiming at. Maybe throw in a few asymmetric sword and crossbow levels for good measure.



Araknie said:

So we will have the new Zelda with the mature style of TP, great! I love it.



SpookyMeths said:

I'd appreciate some HD collections of 1st party stuff later in the Wii U's life cycle. Maybe in 5 years or so. Right now though, there's a drought of the fresh stuff. My Wii U still plays Wii games just fine, thanks.



Marshi said:

Damnit nintendo forget remaking stuff.just put digital copies of the sd wii games onto eshop. I guarantee you'd make a packet!



rjejr said:

Can I vote for Xenoblade Chronicles? I'ld rather pay $60 for an HD remake than $80 for a vintage copy.

Otherwise TP would look good w/ a modern engine. If any game of Nintendo's was going to be remade w/ a complete realistic style makeover it should be that one. I don't think it would do much for SS.



Cuddles said:

The more I see of Wind Waker, the more I repress awful memories of that game and want to experience it on the gamepad in my bed.



MutantlX said:

Hd releases could be used to fill gaps for the series. Id love to see that in motion.



ULTRA-64 said:

@Nintenjoe64 I like your thinking there...crossbow training was under rated and would be perfect for an overhaul for the wu( I hate the name Wii u, for me, it's the wu or the Wii)
I also agree on the hd remake front, it's too soon for a newish Zelda when oot and Mario 64 have not been revamped for the wu. On a personal note I'd like to see remakes of Luigis mansion, Mario sunshine, mk64 or snowboard kids....



Betelgroose said:

Well it makes sense that they wouldn't remake TP or SS considering you can still buy them at Target or GameStop



Emaan said:

Twilight Princess needed an HD remake more than Wind Waker did. Unlike Wind Waker, the art style isn't timeless, and hasn't aged as well over the years. I really want them to one day remake it.



Ristar42 said:

Twilight Princess (Gamecube version) is my favourite Zelda game, I had high expectations of Skyward Sword and got it at release with the gold remote, but I just didnt enjoy the game anywhere near as much. For me Wind Waker was somewhere between the two, not a game I would buy a console to play in HD.



Blast said:

They should release Twilight Princess HD a year AFTER Zelda U comes out.



TheAdrock said:

@Blastoise-san ,
Yes. TP is such a great game and would be well served with an HD facelift.
I couldn't care less about Skyward — that game sucked. SS is the worst Zelda title to-date.



NintyMan said:

I think Twilight Princess HD would work out the most. The dark style of the game could use HD in a more creative way than Skyward Sword's brighter visuals. They should focus on the new Zelda, obviously, but a remake down the road wouldn't hurt.

@Groose-Lord: By that logic, Donkey Kong Country Returns shouldn't have gotten a 3D version since it's still a fairly recent release (2010).



rmeyer said:

I wouldn't mind annual re-releases of skyward sword and twilight princess in hd. I don't see the new Zelda coming out for a while anyway



ueI said:

Both games can already be played on WiiU, so no, they don't need remakes.



Shambo said:

When they release Legend of Zelda: HD Collection (or Hyrule... something with a capital D), the crowd will go wild.
TP and SS on one WiiU disc in a collector's box? Hell yeah! Toss in some extra collectible stuff, release it worldwide (very, VERY important 'detail') and PROFIT. TP could offer the choise between Gamecube and Wii world/controls too.
But I agree: a new Legend of Zelda should come first.
Oh and please don't forget there's a mask salesman not so very happy he didn't get a 3d remake yet... You don't want to see his angry face! (in fact I believe we all DO want to see it, in 3d nonetheless!)



GraveLordXD said:

@DestinyMan yes but dkcr was re- released on a handheld not right after on a home console

If anything I'd like to see a MM remake but like others said later on because right now we need new games , I'd also like to see a HD remake of the first two Zelda's



HaNks said:

SS would need minimal work...could be a straight up uprez pretty much. TP on the other hand would need more texture work, but still a big improvement in HD as is.



QBertFarnsworth said:

@SanderEvers They should give everything an HD remake. They can keep the original aspect ratios so the game play remains exactly the same, but if they could make say Super Mario 3 look as good as the new Rayman, who wouldn't buy it?



Dogpigfish said:

Twilight Princess had some of the greatest gameplay and dungeons, but some of the worst gameplay scenarios. The pacing was at times very slow, with constant wandering of the twilight. I think they figured out that aspect wasn't any good and abandoned it later in the game. If they do a remake, they should work on that and get it closer to ocarina.



Rafie said:

@Nintenjoe64 I normally don't agree with everything you say, but I gotta admit that I'm with you on proper HD remakes of Ocarina Of Time and Majora's Mask. Arguably 2 of the best Zelda's of all time.



sinalefa said:

I would get them both, but I agree that the new Zelda is the priority. That "someone else does it" smells like Grezzo.

TP in HD with SS's swordplay would be unbelievably awesome.



MathRaph said:

For now, I think making an HD remake of Skyward Sword would make no sense. Nintendo needs to sell the Wii U... aka the gamepad. Skyward Sword is way too tied to the wiimote for that. Wouldn't mind the fantastic art style not being butchered on my HDTV though.
... And I think before any other Zelda remakes on WiiU we can expect Majora's Mask on 3DS. (Next year?)



Fuzzy said:

Have always wanted to play Twilight Princess without waggle (GC version was hard/expensive to track down), so I would love to see TP released on the WiiU store.

Want to play through it again, just not on the Wii.



LtAldoRaine said:

I know they're talking about HD upgrades,but I get goosebumps at the thought of a big man's remake of Majora's Mask for the Wii U. damnit,that would be too perfect.



Captain_Gonru said:

I'll second any and all votes for a Majora's Mask remake, though I think the 3DS is the more likely landing area for it. As for Wii U, Twilight Princess in a few years would be nice, to keep with the "ten years later" pattern they've started.
Now, and I know this may get a mixed response, what about revisiting Zelda II? It's the only distinctly different game in the series, and I wouldn't mind an update or sequel or something. Just putting that out there.



Sean_Aaron said:

I'd happily get both, though ideally they'd have motion-free options and reduce the back-tracking in Twilight Princess to make the game a little tighter.



Captain_Balko said:

Zelda HD Remake Trilogy? YES PLEASE! (I know it probably won't happen, but still, it would be awesome)



cookiex said:

TP IMO is the most visually dated of the three. It could use a HD remaster.



ricklongo said:

I definitely would rather they worked on new games right now, especially since both TP and SS can be played on a Wii U's Wii mode.

But yeah, it would be pretty cool getting to play them in the Gamepad rather than the wiimote+nunchuck combo (of which I've never been a big fan).



Pachterkid said:

A) Focus on making a brand new Zelda game for the Wii U, not HD-releases.

B) Make that brand new Zelda game with realistic, awesome graphics that we have all come to expect from the HD generation. Wind Waker is a classic, outstanding game, but I don't want the first original Zelda title on the Wii U to be cel-shaded. One game like that is enough. You finally have a powerful system on your hands, Nintendo, make this Zelda game look amazing.



Ernest_The_Crab said:

It's a little too early for a Skyward Sword remake. Personally, not that interested in a Twilight Princess unless they fix some of the pacing issues like the bug hunts and the really easy bosses (Ganondorf was a huge disappointment out of them all). Probably, the easiest Zelda game I've played, could definitely use some difficulty adjustments.

Well it's good to know they're experimenting with different styles; I'd rather they not rush into the next Zelda game, especially with everyone watching this game and with the Wii U in a tough part of it's life cycle.



Whopper744 said:

I think TP would have been my choice but the more I think about it, I think WW HD is going to be great. I feel like I underappreciated the original compared to other Zeldas



Zach777 said:

They'll do more HD remarked but not settle on Majora's Mask 3D? Seriously... Zelda sells Nintendo. Do them all.



Zach777 said:

P.S. A Link to the Past in 3D better be a secret unlockable in A Link Between Worlds.



LeVideoGamer said:

If they end up making a HD remake of Skyward Sword, why wouldn't they have just postponed it and made it a Wii U launch title?

Forget remakes. Let Wind Waker be the first and last for its 10th anniversary. Focus on brand new games. At the most, make HD reboots of forgotten franchises like StarTropics, Ice Climber and Nazo no Murasamejo. HD isn't a huge draw for me, and I don't need to have all my favourite games remade in HD.



IxnayontheCK said:

SS absolutely SHOULD have been a Wii U game instead. whether it was a good wii u game or not. Nintendo took too long with it. A wii u launch with a beautiful HD SS would have been a great thing.



Marioman64 said:

i want a version of skyward sword that doesn't have 1:1 motion controls. twilight princess was fantastic, skyward sword i haven't finished because i keep getting held up by over-precise controls



Ichiban said:

Maybe in another 10 years or so. Its way too soon for either to be rereleased, or even considered to be. I must say im a little surprised how keen some are about this........
Then again, weve been buying the same 'new' Super Mario game over multiple consoles since its original DS release!



element187 said:

@SanderEvers Even though I have both Galaxy games on Wii, I would pay $60 for a single disc/download that had both games upgraded to HD/60fps.

Its one game that would breathtaking in HD.. Heck it already looks good in dolphin at 1080p, if they gave it the Wind Waker HD treatment(upgraded assets/textures) it would blow minds.



element187 said:

"I had suspected they would have been doing something like this."

@johndevine They would be crazy not to.. in fact they have probably HD'fied most of their classics from the Gamecube/Wii games already... depending on how well Wind Waker HD does sales wise, we may get more full HD remakes.... and not the fake HD remakes that Sony puts out (uprezzed ports is LAZY)



Ryno said:

I would not buy a Skyward Sword HD as I don't have any interest in playing that again. I was not a fan of the art style. Twilight Princess on the other hand would be a definite.



Rezalack said:

I really hope they stray from releasing HD remakes of these for now. I liked them both, SS more, but still. They haven't even been out that long.. we don't need them especially when you can play them on your Wii U if you wanted to anyway.

I'd much rather see them put a Majora's Mask remake on the Wii U, or perhaps even look into one of the older classic Zelda games like "A Link to the Past" and bring that into a HD 3D world. That would be cool.

Now.. on the subject of a HD remake. Bring Eternal Darkness to Wii U.



element187 said:

No way Nintendo would ever do HD remakes of OOT and MM... The amount of work that would be needed to take those 240p games up to 1080p would be massive.

99% of the game has ZERO textures, just flat polygon color. They would have to rebuild pretty much every inch of that game to work in HD, redo every single character model...

I'm starting to think gamers don't understand how resolution works (We have gamers who actually think Nintendo should make 3DS games playable on the TV, ugh it would be Ugly... stretching 240p to 1080p or even 720p would be terrible)



Rezalack said:

@element187 When I was stating I'd rather see a Majora's Mask remake I wasn't talking about them just bringing it to 1080p. I was suggesting they flat out revamp the whole thing like they did with that Wii U Demo a couple years ago where they showed Link with the Deku Mask. I know it will probably never happen, I'm just saying I'd MUCH rather see that than a re-release of a game that I bought new in the last 5 years.



unrandomsam said:

@element187 Full price - Full effort seems reasonable to me. No effort no sale. (The 3DS remake looks like absolute dirt on the 3DS XL).

The gamecube version of OOT and Master Quest runs at double the resolution already (Best version - I have played them all).

Far less work than just getting any of the Saturn games that have been recently ported running at all.

If you want to sell something that already exists at the price of a new game then only reasonable it has an equivalent amount of effort put in.



DarkKirby said:

It seems like Wind Waker was chosen because it was the easiest to make HD because of its art style, how short it is, and how old it is compared to Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess.

I don't dislike Skyward Sword but I would have preferred Twilight Princess.



Ash_Anne said:

I would like to see an HD remake of TP but I don't really want them to start making all sorts of HD remakes like Sony did for awhile. I got real sick of seeing just about only PS2 remakes.



SphericalCrusher said:

I would love to see Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess in HD, but it's much too soon for them - especially Skyward Sword. We just got Ocarina of Time remade on 3DS, and although it would be sweet to see it on WiiU - I'm crossing my fingers for a Majora's Mask remake (Either 3DS or WiiU). I'm looking forward to a brand new HD Zelda from scratch more than anything. There's nothing else they could really remake in HD on WiiU other than those.



withoutdk said:

We just ordered the limited Zelda wind waker HD... and maybe this will be my first experience in the universe of Zelda.

gotta support!



DreamDrop said:

Umm...yeah, instead of tinkering with old titles, how about releasing something "new" Nintendo? As long as they're just experimenting I don't mind, HD remasters should not release this early into a console's life, whatever...this console was dead on production itself. I'll go back to gaming on my 3DS.



tsm7 said:

This is really old news.
He also said Wind Waker seemed most improved with HD. I'm all for WW HD but I find it hard to imagine TP wouldn't have benefited more. I've been playing again and it looks pretty grainy these days.



Senario said:

@theadrock13 Odd because I felt that TP was one of the worst zelda games being too bland in color while trying to do two opposite things badly. Being Oot and majora's with a mandatory wolf sequence instead of how Majora's style with masks being useful alternatives to reg link sucked. Skyward sword on the other hand was a ton of fun and full of color. My only criticism of the game is that the sky is fairly empty compared to the great sea for WW.



TheAdrock said:

@ueI , "Both games can already be played on WiiU, so no, they don't need remakes." You do realize that playing TP through the Wii emulator on the U doesn't increase the resolution at all... right?



Neram said:

If Twilight Princess got re-released in HD it would need a retexture job, the overworld textures look really muddy and blurry. I hope that because Wind Waker got chosen as a re-release that doesn't mean the next Zelda game will be toony as well.



Williaint said:

When they mentioned they were doing a remake, at first, they didn't say which one (it was in the air, whether it was a LTTP 3D remake, or what). Therefore, this is more of a confirmation.
Skyward Sword is fine. It doesn't need to be remade. A TP HD remake wouldn't be too bad. Or what if they made an HD TP and Windwaker combo ....
If I recall, and I do, I thought the textures in TP were great.
I find it disconcerting that the same people who dislike Windwaker for being too light and colourful, dislike Twilight Princess for being too dark and gloomy.



jman0625 said:

Honestly wasn't the Zelda E3 demo in 2011 or 12 basically the boss of Temple of Time from Twilight Princess?



DarkLloyd said:

well would love to have HD skyward sword simply for controller controlls so i can relax and not point at the screen lol



AllCreation said:

@Senario Twilight Princess had some really great gaming mechanics though... The heightened senses of Link in Wolf Mode were revolutionary... That along with things like the scan function in Metroid evolved into Abilities like Feral senses in the 2009 Wolverine game and eventually the Detective modes in Batman's Arkham series and Heavy Rain.



sonicfan1373 said:

Perhaps after the first original Zelda title for Wii U. I would not mind experiencing both SS and TW in HD, but I would really like TW to be remastered because that game attempted to go with a more realistic art style but was limited in the visual quality it was able to pull off due to the GC/Wii hardware. If the next 3D Zelda game for Wii U does decide to bring back that artstyle (which I hope it does) then I would honestly not mind having either TW or SS.



TheLilK98 said:

As long as the new Zelda looks more like TP or SS than WW. I love WW's art style, but I'd just rather see something more realistic.



audiobrainiac said:

Sorry to be redundant but Twilight Princess would be baddonkey in HD. Its seems a style they for some reason want to stay away from for future games. I love different art styles and all but, i like imagining how cool a zelda game would be if it looked more real, like the HD video they put out demoing the Wii U's capabilities.



WaxxyOne said:

Nintendo made the right choice. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing more Zelda titles remade in HD (though I'd rather have an original title first!) but Wind Waker HD was the correct title to start with. For one, it's older than those other two so stands the gain the most in terms of a graphical update. Another reason is the opportunity to streamline the game to remove some of those minor annoyances that cause the original to age poorly. Finally, it came out on the Gamecube, limiting the potential audience whereas the other two were on the Wii, a system that founds its way into many more households.



mikeyman64 said:

This tells me one thing: The reason they picked WW to be the remake might be partly because they went with something similar to the other two for the next Zelda game.



Rafie said:

@Pachterkid It was confirmed that a new Zelda game was in the works for the Wii U. There was a single screen shot of the Zelda game somewhere. Link was fighting this giant spider or something. So far...the graphics was CRAZY!!! Sorry I don't have a link for you (no pun intended). Probably won't see it until 2015.



FX29 said:

I'll love to see an HD bundle of Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword. Both would look stunning in HD.



ThreadShadow said:

I'd love LoZ: TP HD, and that's the Gamecube version I'm talking about, not the flipped Wii version.

Plus I'd want them to include and finish Beta Forest, Beta Dungeon, Beta enemies, enemies that increase in size, and all the cool stuff in the original pics and trailers that got cut.

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