@GameOtaku except Nintendo does since the parent patent was filed in 2021. And these 4 divisional patents are part of the parent patent so legally those 4 divisional patents are "technically and legally" were there since 2021.
@KoopaTheGamer while it is true Pokemon games have dropped in quality (Arceus was actually good afaik tho), the fact it is Pokemon brings a lot of sales. Brand recognition.
@Snatcher technically and legally, these 4 patents were there since 2021 since these 4 patents are part of 1 parent patent that was filed in 2021. Thus legally effective against Palworld.
@Bolt_Strike actually these patents are part of a parent patent filed in 2021. Meaning these patents filed this year are legally "there" since 2021. Meaning legally effective against Palworld.
And they're not going for copyright as Palworld managed to narrowly avoid that. The automedia article NL posted mentions it.
@GamingFan4Lyf You and I do not make the laws of the US or Japanese legal system.
It is legal to patent game mechanics whether you think it is scummy or not. WB did this with their Nemesis System. And this is also legal with the parent patent and such.
You cannot blame Nintendo or WB or any game company for patenting game mechanics, but rather the governments who allow such laws that allow game companies to patent game mechanics.
If these developers have the same mechanics BUT CODED differently, they would be by passing this patent most likely. If they were using the exact same code for copying these mechanics, then they are on radar.
It also doesn't help with the fact that the PocketPair CEO did state they don't really like being creative and like to chase trends and essentially don't mind copying from other games. One of their games pretty much rips off Hollow Knight.
And also to note, Nintendo would have ignored this if people hadn't started tagging them about this and also if people and I think PocketPair didn't market the game as "Pokemon with guns".
@ozwally its actually divisional patents that were filed and approved of this year. But these divisional patents are part of a parent patent that was approved in 2021. Essentially meaning these divisional patents are legally there since 2021.
@GamingFan4Lyf NintendoLife conveniently and for some reason left out one key detail. And it is from that article that they posted.
While it is true these 4 divisional patents were filed after Palworld launched, however these are divisional patents. The "parent" patent for these 4 divisional patents was filed in December 2021. So I think this means these 4 2024 patents what are now under the 2021 patent are legally 2021 patents. Thats what I think it is. Or maybe I am wrong.
The parent patent for this 4 divisional patents was filed in December 2021. One month before Legends Arceus released, way before Palworld was even released. So if this was the patent in question, this is legally effective against Palworld.
@Serpenterror actually, @easykiel might have a point here. In the article NintendoLife posted another article from automaton media. The parent patent of the 4 divisional patents were registered in December of 2021. Palworld came out in January 2024. Meaning this is technically legally effective.
@easykiel thank you for pointing this out, I feel most people here missed this (Including me!!!)
We do not know which patents in question it is. They may or may not be resubs of previous patents like what @easykiel said. I would rather instead of all arguing about this, why not wait for official confirmation on this?
That is gonna go well. And yeah we don't know if this is the patent in question. I assume Japanese courts cannot say anything until the trial happens which will take 4 to 5 years.
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Re: The Original 'Stalker' Trilogy Is Launching On Switch This Halloween
This games are very punishing from what I heard. I suggest you all start with one of the games and buy it just to try it out.
Re: An Alien: Isolation Sequel Is Officially In Development
YES YES YES YES YES YEA.
COME TO SWITCH 2 PLEASE.
Re: Saudi Public Investment Fund Considering Increasing Its Stake In Nintendo
@CriticalHit Prince MBS himself is a gamer lol.
Re: Video: 9 Exciting Games Coming To Nintendo Switch In October 2024
Yakuza Kiwami if it runs well so I can prove RGG that THEY ARE DEAD WRONG.
And Slay the Princess too.
I would buy these tho and maybe Metroid Prime
Re: Metroid 64 Fan Game Blends Prime Mechanics With Other M
The Nintendo Ninjas are about to take this down in
3... 2... 1...
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
@McBurn kill one, ten more takes its place...
HAIL HYDRA.
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
@HeeHo and ones they never paid for
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
@VoidofLight afaik, this happened to Yuzu
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
@Dr_Lugae oh boy were they making money off of this emulator?
Re: Nintendo Slays Switch Emulator Ryujinx
Ah a wonderful conversation. Just emulate old games and such, that’s fine. Don’t emulate any games that are on current gen consoles.
And definitely don’t pirate them.
Re: Hunter x Hunter's Fighting Game Delayed Until 2025, Now Adding Rollback Netcode
Why did I think that looked like Phoenix Wright for a second....
Am I the only one who thought of this?
Re: Critically Acclaimed 2D Sekiro-Like 'Nine Sols' Confirmed For Switch
I heard lot of good things about it so if it runs well on Switch, I’ll pick it up.
Re: Feature: Life Is Strange: Double Exposure Directors Discuss Caulfield, Canon & Switch
@Bl4ckb100d out of the Life is strange games on Switch, only True Colours seem to run well.
Re: Capcom Says It Will Continue To Grow The Ace Attorney Series
@shonenjump86 The whole Capcom leaks say there is a AA7 in the works.
Re: Capcom Says It Will Continue To Grow The Ace Attorney Series
@FX29 because those 3 all bring the money.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Dr_Lugae I hope they do sue on copyright. But let’s see.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Deviant-Dork they themselves even implied it back then. Don’t know why anyone is surprised.
Re: Capcom Says It Will Continue To Grow The Ace Attorney Series
If it means any form like AA7, GAA 3 or Investigations 3. I’m here for it.
I’ll watch the special introduction video though regardless.
Re: Pokemon Unite Ending Service In Select European Markets Next Year
precisely why I hate live-service games.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Bolt_Strike That lawyer in the article mentioned that they narrowly avoided copyright.
Re: Another New Atelier RPG Is Heading To Switch Next Year
@nintendolife Also Nine Sols has been confirmed for Switch.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@GameOtaku except Nintendo does since the parent patent was filed in 2021. And these 4 divisional patents are part of the parent patent so legally those 4 divisional patents are "technically and legally" were there since 2021.
Re: Another New Atelier RPG Is Heading To Switch Next Year
Oh wait, now 2 Atelier games?
I am confused? Should I get this one you all?
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@JimNorman no problem.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@KoopaTheGamer while it is true Pokemon games have dropped in quality (Arceus was actually good afaik tho), the fact it is Pokemon brings a lot of sales. Brand recognition.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@KoopaTheGamer This article explains it.
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/whats-the-killer-patent-nintendo-is-suing-palworld-for-japanese-patent-attorney-offers-in-depth-analysis/
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Snatcher technically and legally, these 4 patents were there since 2021 since these 4 patents are part of 1 parent patent that was filed in 2021. Thus legally effective against Palworld.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Bolt_Strike actually these patents are part of a parent patent filed in 2021. Meaning these patents filed this year are legally "there" since 2021. Meaning legally effective against Palworld.
And they're not going for copyright as Palworld managed to narrowly avoid that. The automedia article NL posted mentions it.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@MegaChem and these divisional patents are legally "there" since 2021. As if they were there all this time.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@GamingFan4Lyf You and I do not make the laws of the US or Japanese legal system.
It is legal to patent game mechanics whether you think it is scummy or not. WB did this with their Nemesis System. And this is also legal with the parent patent and such.
You cannot blame Nintendo or WB or any game company for patenting game mechanics, but rather the governments who allow such laws that allow game companies to patent game mechanics.
If these developers have the same mechanics BUT CODED differently, they would be by passing this patent most likely. If they were using the exact same code for copying these mechanics, then they are on radar.
It also doesn't help with the fact that the PocketPair CEO did state they don't really like being creative and like to chase trends and essentially don't mind copying from other games. One of their games pretty much rips off Hollow Knight.
And also to note, Nintendo would have ignored this if people hadn't started tagging them about this and also if people and I think PocketPair didn't market the game as "Pokemon with guns".
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@ozwally its actually divisional patents that were filed and approved of this year. But these divisional patents are part of a parent patent that was approved in 2021. Essentially meaning these divisional patents are legally there since 2021.
Thus, legally effective against Palworld.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@GamingFan4Lyf and legally against Palworld. Yup. They have a strong case over there. But you sumed it up quite nicely.
Have to admit, that is actually pretty complicated but quite smart as well.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@easykiel does this mean the 4 divisional 2024 patents are counted as a 2021 patent essentially?
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@GamingFan4Lyf NintendoLife conveniently and for some reason left out one key detail. And it is from that article that they posted.
While it is true these 4 divisional patents were filed after Palworld launched, however these are divisional patents. The "parent" patent for these 4 divisional patents was filed in December 2021. So I think this means these 4 2024 patents what are now under the 2021 patent are legally 2021 patents. Thats what I think it is. Or maybe I am wrong.
But it is legally effective against Palworld.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@easykiel https://automaton-media.com/en/news/whats-the-killer-patent-nintendo-is-suing-palworld-for-japanese-patent-attorney-offers-in-depth-analysis/
The parent patent for this 4 divisional patents was filed in December 2021. One month before Legends Arceus released, way before Palworld was even released. So if this was the patent in question, this is legally effective against Palworld.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Serpenterror actually, @easykiel might have a point here. In the article NintendoLife posted another article from automaton media. The parent patent of the 4 divisional patents were registered in December of 2021. Palworld came out in January 2024. Meaning this is technically legally effective.
@easykiel thank you for pointing this out, I feel most people here missed this (Including me!!!)
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@easykiel where is this link?
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
We do not know which patents in question it is. They may or may not be resubs of previous patents like what @easykiel said. I would rather instead of all arguing about this, why not wait for official confirmation on this?
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@DripDropCop146 LOL
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@PikaPhantom Well yes, the court case is taking place in Japan so patents filed in the US would have no effect there afaik.
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@easykiel question is did Nintendo apply for the application much much earlier?
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@ThatGuyWho @DripDropCop146 Okay, so what is your reasoning that Nintendo is in the right here?
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Maubari might be different methods. Or the same way but they coded it differently in which they can bypass the patent
Re: Nintendo Patents Filed After Palworld's Release Suggest Lawsuit Prep Started Months Ago
@Madao oh boy, using Pokemon assets?
That is gonna go well. And yeah we don't know if this is the patent in question. I assume Japanese courts cannot say anything until the trial happens which will take 4 to 5 years.
Re: Hold It! Capcom Will Premiere A "Special" Ace Attorney Intro Video At TGS 2024
I don't want to get my hopes up but ACE ATTORNEY 7 PLZ???
But no expectations. But I would kill for some more artwork and such like official iPhone wallpapers and such.
But who knows, it might be entertaining enough.
Re: Guilty Gear Strive Shares First In-Game Look At Its Next DLC Fighter
@27celsius SO TRUE
Re: Guilty Gear Strive Shares First In-Game Look At Its Next DLC Fighter
This about to blow up on the Switch. LITERALLY.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Version 1.0.1 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
does that mean fix in the frame-rate?
Re: Palworld's Japan Release On PS5 Delayed As Nintendo's Lawsuit Looms
@IceEarthGuard what Itachi meant was the reaction from the Japanese side vs the Western side on the lawsuit I believe. Not the delay.
Re: Palworld's Japan Release On PS5 Delayed As Nintendo's Lawsuit Looms
@GamingFan4Lyf which is probably the best case scenario.
Out of court settlement and change up the mechanics.