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Seems like we won the battle, but will we win the war?
Great news regardless!
Hope the same happens to the use of generative AI in game development!
We need less of nonsense things like these that are only predatory and lazy.

No wonder. Game key card isn't what the consumers want. Hope they learn from this and understand digital only isn't the right future for gaming.

Definitely getting this for my Switch. With the whole game key card, I don't have much faith in the future of gaming on Nintendo consoles staying physical.

Game key card? No thanks. Was gonna buy this, but absolutely not supporting this ***** practice.

Switch 1 version it is.

Damn. A whole new low, despite everything, I still find that a bit shocking from Nintendo.

@ear_wig The resell argument is actually completely moot when you see how low prices get on a lot of those digital sales they have on eShop.

Lol. I think they will be shocked by lack of sale on those game key cards. Most people will opt for either boycotting or buying the games fully digital.

Easy purchase if it's an actual physical release with everything on the cartridge.

It's "Code in a box", no purchase for me.

@jsty3105 Of course they do, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a horrible approach and if they weren't so greedy they would understand that such deals are what made the WII such a huge success.

No thanks. Haha. Can't believe they will charge for this and some people will actually end up paying for it. Crazy times.

@PessitheMystic Was thinking the same, but you have to remember that -especially- this being a Nintendo console, a lot of people that preorder aren't necessarily consumers who read video game news or stay up to date on what's going on in the game industry or anything related to video games.

So glad to see this being reported and spread to the public. Can't believe I'm seeing consumers defending or justifying this.

Great! But must say that the newest rumour (if true) really have ruined any hope or expectation for this new console. Supposedly the console needs Internet activation to actually work (at least for Switch 1 games).

"Update: wario64 tweetTwitter user wario64 tweeted this "Another person shared with me that they have a Nintendo Switch 2 as well. I have no permission to post pics but can share that when they try to boot a Switch 1 game, a message prompts "Please connect to the internet and update your system."

Needs update to boot a game""

Nintendo really changed for the worse. :/

Seems like Switch 1 version will be the one to purchase. Never buying those game key cards.

At least it's not AI.

Greed knows no bounds.

Good for SAG. AI is disgusting as well as anyone enabling it.

Most likely they don't mention it for the update specifically, because the Switch 2's functionality of BC improves on performance "naturally" without the need of the update. Remains to be seen, but that's my guess.

@BirdoDidNothingWrong And? I am consistent?

Nintendo's handling and communication skills throughout this has been nothing but an absolute embarrassment.

Hopefully it's physical, instant purchase if so.

Well there you have it. I am already settled for Switch 2 being my last Nintendo console, this is just the "possible" nail in the coffin for it. I might get the next console and just homebrew it as soon as possible and then piracy.

Shame though, rather give my money to Nintendo, but they are starting to make it impossible.

@Skunkfish Not happening unless they find a way to make it fair for the consumer. I have no interest in buying products that I absolutely have no agency or ownership over and that they can dismiss at any point if they want. I am not a mindless bot that just gives in because it's "convenient", I guess I just have principles.

I guess I will have to prepare myself for emulation and piracy in the future. Guess that's what Nintendo wants now.

@Jeronan Not what I was referring to or talking about. Digital Foundry has said things and made assumptions that were clearly lazy and incorrect, outright lying because they couldn't bother to do proper research on it. They've been really bad at covering the NS2 and none of it has to do with Nintendo.

@WiltonRoots After I saw SuperMetalDave64 covering them, I just stopped subscribing. I cannot believe they had the gall to be THAT lazy and arrogant about the NS2 coverage, was enough for me to completely boycott them. They outright lie because they didn't bother doing the proper research, and they're supposed to be "experts".

I can't take digital foundry seriously anymore after their half-assed coverage of Switch 2. They seriously don't strike me as experts anymore, that's how bad their coverage has been. Gonna wait for another channel to cover this.

Care... emulation is king, especially if they keep leaning on less support for physical games media which they seem to be now.

Just another reason for why I won't use it. I'm fine with that, it's extremely gross and predatory of them to do this, but I was never their target audience for this anyway, as I will just always opt for Discord or something else that is miles ahead of whatever Nintendo can offer in terms of communication service.

@Medic_alert They're charging £65 for the base game, including the major overhaul they did AND the Expansion on top of that. That's a helluvah good deal.

This battle between physical and digital will be the thing that defines whether I keep buying consoles or not. If the next Nintendo console is just fully digital, then I will just start pirating and do emulation. I am not spending that much money on something, only to not be able to play it whenever I want and have access to it whenever I want, screw that.

Gonna wait until there is a full physical release.

Ubisoft mostly do "code in a box" so I don't get this at all. That being said, game key cards are a absolute disaster and I definitely will be avoiding them at all cost.

No thanks. I get everything from Last Stand Media. If game journalists were less about culture wars and such nonsense I would probably care, but that ship has sailed.

Only thing I feel sorry for them for is the fact that people lost their job, and that's never an easy situation to be in, so for that, they have my empathy, but other than that, meh...

Wow, this was more lackluster than I expected from the initial trailer.

@Medic_alert There's a huge flaw in your logic, if you get your Switch 2 stolen or lose it, then you lose all your games, compared to having a game stolen.

Absolutely not. Will just emulate the rest, this console will probably be the first console that I end up hacking.

Definitely gonna support this studio on the Switch 2. Newman is a complete tool, that's not an argument for not having a fully "physical" edition of a game.

If it isn't gonna be physical then it's a no go for me.

One thing I've been wondering is; what's really the point of the two extra buttons when the joy-cons don't have them. I can't really see games being released using them, but then not be supported in handheld mode because of the lack of two extra buttons.

This is insane, Nintendo need to step up here and find a way to entice these publishers to just go fully physical. This is getting close to be the most embarrassing launch of a console I've seen.

Will this one still require Internet connection to play it?

Edit: Let me rephrase it, will it still require Internet to have access to most of the game's functionality. Remember on PC it was so limited if you weren't connected to the servers.

Damn, seems like we're approaching the end of my gaming days now if this doesn't change. This is just insane, and to think Nintendo is pushing for this is just the ultimate betrayal.

"Stay tuned" has no proper meaning here other than "please keep watch because we want your eyes on our products", it could easily be 3 years wait. Unless there's a direct right before Switch 2, I really don't see the point of withholding a mainline Mario game from the official direct that is supposed to kick off all the hype for this next console in their line, so in other words, I highly doubt they have anything ready for this year or following years.

@JaxonH But this is actually newsworthy. It's information for the consumers who are considering this purchase, and the consumers that are considering upgrading to Switch 2. Stop acting like a fanboy, and start acting like a consumer, this is just laughable.

Already pre-ordered mine, though the price in Norway is horrendous, hoping for a price decrease by then or I might have to reconsider. ***** Bergsala.

Hard pass. Unless you actually play as Link, I don't have much interest.