Most likely they don't mention it for the update specifically, because the Switch 2's functionality of BC improves on performance "naturally" without the need of the update. Remains to be seen, but that's my guess.
Well there you have it. I am already settled for Switch 2 being my last Nintendo console, this is just the "possible" nail in the coffin for it. I might get the next console and just homebrew it as soon as possible and then piracy.
Shame though, rather give my money to Nintendo, but they are starting to make it impossible.
@Skunkfish Not happening unless they find a way to make it fair for the consumer. I have no interest in buying products that I absolutely have no agency or ownership over and that they can dismiss at any point if they want. I am not a mindless bot that just gives in because it's "convenient", I guess I just have principles.
@Jeronan Not what I was referring to or talking about. Digital Foundry has said things and made assumptions that were clearly lazy and incorrect, outright lying because they couldn't bother to do proper research on it. They've been really bad at covering the NS2 and none of it has to do with Nintendo.
@WiltonRoots After I saw SuperMetalDave64 covering them, I just stopped subscribing. I cannot believe they had the gall to be THAT lazy and arrogant about the NS2 coverage, was enough for me to completely boycott them. They outright lie because they didn't bother doing the proper research, and they're supposed to be "experts".
I can't take digital foundry seriously anymore after their half-assed coverage of Switch 2. They seriously don't strike me as experts anymore, that's how bad their coverage has been. Gonna wait for another channel to cover this.
Just another reason for why I won't use it. I'm fine with that, it's extremely gross and predatory of them to do this, but I was never their target audience for this anyway, as I will just always opt for Discord or something else that is miles ahead of whatever Nintendo can offer in terms of communication service.
@Medic_alert They're charging £65 for the base game, including the major overhaul they did AND the Expansion on top of that. That's a helluvah good deal.
This battle between physical and digital will be the thing that defines whether I keep buying consoles or not. If the next Nintendo console is just fully digital, then I will just start pirating and do emulation. I am not spending that much money on something, only to not be able to play it whenever I want and have access to it whenever I want, screw that.
Ubisoft mostly do "code in a box" so I don't get this at all. That being said, game key cards are a absolute disaster and I definitely will be avoiding them at all cost.
No thanks. I get everything from Last Stand Media. If game journalists were less about culture wars and such nonsense I would probably care, but that ship has sailed.
Only thing I feel sorry for them for is the fact that people lost their job, and that's never an easy situation to be in, so for that, they have my empathy, but other than that, meh...
@Medic_alert There's a huge flaw in your logic, if you get your Switch 2 stolen or lose it, then you lose all your games, compared to having a game stolen.
Definitely gonna support this studio on the Switch 2. Newman is a complete tool, that's not an argument for not having a fully "physical" edition of a game.
One thing I've been wondering is; what's really the point of the two extra buttons when the joy-cons don't have them. I can't really see games being released using them, but then not be supported in handheld mode because of the lack of two extra buttons.
This is insane, Nintendo need to step up here and find a way to entice these publishers to just go fully physical. This is getting close to be the most embarrassing launch of a console I've seen.
Will this one still require Internet connection to play it?
Edit: Let me rephrase it, will it still require Internet to have access to most of the game's functionality. Remember on PC it was so limited if you weren't connected to the servers.
Damn, seems like we're approaching the end of my gaming days now if this doesn't change. This is just insane, and to think Nintendo is pushing for this is just the ultimate betrayal.
"Stay tuned" has no proper meaning here other than "please keep watch because we want your eyes on our products", it could easily be 3 years wait. Unless there's a direct right before Switch 2, I really don't see the point of withholding a mainline Mario game from the official direct that is supposed to kick off all the hype for this next console in their line, so in other words, I highly doubt they have anything ready for this year or following years.
@JaxonH But this is actually newsworthy. It's information for the consumers who are considering this purchase, and the consumers that are considering upgrading to Switch 2. Stop acting like a fanboy, and start acting like a consumer, this is just laughable.
A Nintendo that is trying to set a new high and expensive standard for pricing of console and games, is not going to produce paid DLC for one of their biggest game franchise? Sure...
This is such a non issue. There gonna be a select few people that actually wanted this to be optimal. Me personally, I don't care, there are so many things to be critical of Switch 2, and this is just trivial. Only thing I will say is that with the current price, I kind of wish they didn't do this whole Gamechat thing at all inc. the camera.
This is shocking and all, but that aside, is it even legal for them to do this? They are literally marketing and branding (Switch 2 logo on the cover) as a Switch 2 product, when in fact the content inside is actually for a entirely different product. Seems odd to me this would pass as legal, especially in some EU countries like Norway where marketing laws and such are really strict.
I'm a bit worried about this actually. At first I wanted this, but now I realize that there's no vehicle customization (stat based at least) and I don't see any indication that the characters have anything special beside cosmetics, which makes me wonder if this will just be a really stripped down version of previous MK games except that it'll be "bigger".
The console price for me is fine, it's the software price that is laughable. I love that some people even seem to justify it by saying "inflation". But the fact is, we only see a adjustment in price when it is an increase and never a reduction, even when justified. When more and more games went digital, there definitely was a strong argument for a price reduction, but we never saw that, so clearly it's just pure greed and people should put pressure on it. Probably become the best argument for emulation, if this doesn't stop.
Yes it's too much, of course. That being said, it has nothing to do with it being Mario Kart. 80 for any game is just too much and definitely justifies emulation or piracy.
Can't believe that this nonsense is still gonna be a "thing" for Switch 2. Physical with nothing on it is such a scummy practice. The moment this becomes the thing, that nothing is actually physical, I might as well just go for emulation and piracy.
Does this give any credence to the rumor of May release? I don't understand why they would do treehouse so early if the rumored release of June was correct as it would all fall in line... interesting...
Taking into consideration how long we've been waiting for this type of direct and the fact that this is the end of Switch 1, I think this was extremely poor. They should've at least had remasters of Zelda or something. Metroid Prime 4 looks great, but the presentation wasn't anywhere impressive even for Switch 1.
This news as most of the direct was extremely meh. Shocked that Nintendo didn't have something really interesting to show on this direct, except -obviously- for Metroid Prime 4.
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Re: "If You're A Real Fan, You'll Find A Way" - Borderlands 4 Dev Gives Tone Deaf Response To Price Concerns
Greed knows no bounds.
Re: Fortnite Devs Hit With Unfair Labour Practice Filing Following AI Darth Vader Fiasco
Good for SAG. AI is disgusting as well as anyone enabling it.
Re: Zelda Fans Are Concerned About The Free Switch 2 Updates, But Don't Worry
Most likely they don't mention it for the update specifically, because the Switch 2's functionality of BC improves on performance "naturally" without the need of the update. Remains to be seen, but that's my guess.
Re: Nintendo: "Physical Games Are Still A Key Part Of Our Business"
@BirdoDidNothingWrong And? I am consistent?
Re: Nintendo Apologises For "Error" With Mention Of Switch 2 VRR TV Support
Nintendo's handling and communication skills throughout this has been nothing but an absolute embarrassment.
Re: Rumour: Red Dead Redemption 2 May Be Heading To Switch 2 Pretty Soon
Hopefully it's physical, instant purchase if so.
Re: Nintendo Has "No Plans" To Use Game-Key Cards For First-Party-Developed Titles
Well there you have it. I am already settled for Switch 2 being my last Nintendo console, this is just the "possible" nail in the coffin for it. I might get the next console and just homebrew it as soon as possible and then piracy.
Shame though, rather give my money to Nintendo, but they are starting to make it impossible.
Re: Nintendo: "Physical Games Are Still A Key Part Of Our Business"
@Skunkfish Not happening unless they find a way to make it fair for the consumer. I have no interest in buying products that I absolutely have no agency or ownership over and that they can dismiss at any point if they want. I am not a mindless bot that just gives in because it's "convenient", I guess I just have principles.
Re: Nintendo: "Physical Games Are Still A Key Part Of Our Business"
I guess I will have to prepare myself for emulation and piracy in the future. Guess that's what Nintendo wants now.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Hardware Chip Was Potentially Finalised As Early As 2021
@Jeronan Not what I was referring to or talking about. Digital Foundry has said things and made assumptions that were clearly lazy and incorrect, outright lying because they couldn't bother to do proper research on it. They've been really bad at covering the NS2 and none of it has to do with Nintendo.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Hardware Chip Was Potentially Finalised As Early As 2021
@WiltonRoots After I saw SuperMetalDave64 covering them, I just stopped subscribing. I cannot believe they had the gall to be THAT lazy and arrogant about the NS2 coverage, was enough for me to completely boycott them. They outright lie because they didn't bother doing the proper research, and they're supposed to be "experts".
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Hardware Chip Was Potentially Finalised As Early As 2021
I can't take digital foundry seriously anymore after their half-assed coverage of Switch 2. They seriously don't strike me as experts anymore, that's how bad their coverage has been. Gonna wait for another channel to cover this.
Re: Nintendo Updates Its User Agreement To Crack Down On Emulation
Care... emulation is king, especially if they keep leaning on less support for physical games media which they seem to be now.
Re: Nintendo May Record Video And Audio From GameChat Sessions On Switch 2
Just another reason for why I won't use it. I'm fine with that, it's extremely gross and predatory of them to do this, but I was never their target audience for this anyway, as I will just always opt for Discord or something else that is miles ahead of whatever Nintendo can offer in terms of communication service.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
@Medic_alert They're charging £65 for the base game, including the major overhaul they did AND the Expansion on top of that. That's a helluvah good deal.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
This battle between physical and digital will be the thing that defines whether I keep buying consoles or not. If the next Nintendo console is just fully digital, then I will just start pirating and do emulation. I am not spending that much money on something, only to not be able to play it whenever I want and have access to it whenever I want, screw that.
Re: Elden Ring On Switch 2 Will Introduce Two Brand New Character Classes
Gonna wait until there is a full physical release.
Re: Former Assassin's Creed Lead Isn't Happy About Switch 2's Game-Key Cards
Ubisoft mostly do "code in a box" so I don't get this at all. That being said, game key cards are a absolute disaster and I definitely will be avoiding them at all cost.
Re: Editorial: Gamers, Support The People And Sites You Love, Before It's Too Late
No thanks. I get everything from Last Stand Media. If game journalists were less about culture wars and such nonsense I would probably care, but that ship has sailed.
Only thing I feel sorry for them for is the fact that people lost their job, and that's never an easy situation to be in, so for that, they have my empathy, but other than that, meh...
Re: Video: Here's Another Look At The Lord Of The Rings 'Tales Of The Shire' Game
Wow, this was more lackluster than I expected from the initial trailer.
Re: Talking Point: Will You Be Buying Any Game-Key Card Switch 2 Games?
@Medic_alert There's a huge flaw in your logic, if you get your Switch 2 stolen or lose it, then you lose all your games, compared to having a game stolen.
Re: Talking Point: Will You Be Buying Any Game-Key Card Switch 2 Games?
Absolutely not. Will just emulate the rest, this console will probably be the first console that I end up hacking.
Re: Nightdive Studios' CEO Says That Game-Key Cards On Switch 2 Is "Disheartening"
Definitely gonna support this studio on the Switch 2. Newman is a complete tool, that's not an argument for not having a fully "physical" edition of a game.
Re: Elden Ring Has Now Shipped Over 30 Million Copies Ahead Of Switch 2 Launch
If it isn't gonna be physical then it's a no go for me.
Re: Nintendo Today Video Showcases The New Switch 2 Pro Controller
One thing I've been wondering is; what's really the point of the two extra buttons when the joy-cons don't have them. I can't really see games being released using them, but then not be supported in handheld mode because of the lack of two extra buttons.
Re: Switch 2 "Code-In-A-Box" Physical Game Listing Spotted Online
This is insane, Nintendo need to step up here and find a way to entice these publishers to just go fully physical. This is getting close to be the most embarrassing launch of a console I've seen.
Re: Hitman's Switch 2 Pre-Order Trailer Shows Off Mario-Inspired Outfits And Goodies
Will this one still require Internet connection to play it?
Edit: Let me rephrase it, will it still require Internet to have access to most of the game's functionality. Remember on PC it was so limited if you weren't connected to the servers.
Re: Switch 2 Game-Key Cards Won't Make It Easy For Physical Collectors In Japan
Damn, seems like we're approaching the end of my gaming days now if this doesn't change. This is just insane, and to think Nintendo is pushing for this is just the ultimate betrayal.
Re: "Stay Tuned" For Next Mainline Mario, Says Nintendo's Bowser
"Stay tuned" has no proper meaning here other than "please keep watch because we want your eyes on our products", it could easily be 3 years wait. Unless there's a direct right before Switch 2, I really don't see the point of withholding a mainline Mario game from the official direct that is supposed to kick off all the hype for this next console in their line, so in other words, I highly doubt they have anything ready for this year or following years.
Re: Round Up: The First Impressions Of 'Drag x Drive' For Switch 2 Are In
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Re: Zelda: BOTW Switch 2 Edition Won't Include The DLC, Nintendo Confirms
@JaxonH But this is actually newsworthy. It's information for the consumers who are considering this purchase, and the consumers that are considering upgrading to Switch 2. Stop acting like a fanboy, and start acting like a consumer, this is just laughable.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
Already pre-ordered mine, though the price in Norway is horrendous, hoping for a price decrease by then or I might have to reconsider. ***** Bergsala.
Re: Nintendo: Hyrule Warriors: Age Of Imprisonment Is A "Canonical Tale"
Hard pass. Unless you actually play as Link, I don't have much interest.
Re: Random: Nintendo Nearly Parked Mario Kart: Double Dash's Dual-Driver Hook
Not only the best MK game, but also the MK game with the best tracks. Those were the days.
Re: Mario Kart World "Paid DLC" Would Be A Big No-No, According To Ex-Nintendo Duo
A Nintendo that is trying to set a new high and expensive standard for pricing of console and games, is not going to produce paid DLC for one of their biggest game franchise? Sure...
Re: Switch 2 GameChat Choppy Frame Rate Explained By Nintendo
This is such a non issue. There gonna be a select few people that actually wanted this to be optimal. Me personally, I don't care, there are so many things to be critical of Switch 2, and this is just trivial. Only thing I will say is that with the current price, I kind of wish they didn't do this whole Gamechat thing at all inc. the camera.
Re: 'Switch 2 Editions' Are Supposedly A Switch Game Card And Download Code For The Upgrade Pack
This is shocking and all, but that aside, is it even legal for them to do this? They are literally marketing and branding (Switch 2 logo on the cover) as a Switch 2 product, when in fact the content inside is actually for a entirely different product. Seems odd to me this would pass as legal, especially in some EU countries like Norway where marketing laws and such are really strict.
Re: Hands On: 'Drag x Drive' Is Fantastic, But Is It Destined To Be Switch 2's ARMS?
No. This looks as bland as it can get. I seriously can't believe this is what they came up with to showcase the mouse support.
Re: Mario Kart World's Character Select Screen Teases Absolutely Huge Roster
@hiptanaka Didn't think of that, but I hope you're right or else that would be really disappointing.
Re: Mario Kart World's Character Select Screen Teases Absolutely Huge Roster
I'm a bit worried about this actually. At first I wanted this, but now I realize that there's no vehicle customization (stat based at least) and I don't see any indication that the characters have anything special beside cosmetics, which makes me wonder if this will just be a really stripped down version of previous MK games except that it'll be "bigger".
Re: "DROP THE PRICE!!!" Scream Nintendo Fans During Nintendo's Treehouse Live Broadcast
The console price for me is fine, it's the software price that is laughable. I love that some people even seem to justify it by saying "inflation". But the fact is, we only see a adjustment in price when it is an increase and never a reduction, even when justified. When more and more games went digital, there definitely was a strong argument for a price reduction, but we never saw that, so clearly it's just pure greed and people should put pressure on it. Probably become the best argument for emulation, if this doesn't stop.
Re: "Don't Let Nintendo Ruin The Entire Industry" - Is $80 For Mario Kart World A Bridge Too Far?
Yes it's too much, of course. That being said, it has nothing to do with it being Mario Kart. 80 for any game is just too much and definitely justifies emulation or piracy.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour Price Has Been Confirmed
This should've been free. Hard pass.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077's Physical Edition On Switch 2 Won't Require A Download
Can't believe that this nonsense is still gonna be a "thing" for Switch 2. Physical with nothing on it is such a scummy practice. The moment this becomes the thing, that nothing is actually physical, I might as well just go for emulation and piracy.
Re: Fromsoftware's The Duskbloods Looks Like Bloodborne 2, Coming to Nintendo Switch 2 in 2026
I'll take it. But come on, this is basically Bloodborne 2, just call it that unless it would infringe some contract with Sony.
Re: Nintendo Treehouse Returns This Week With Two Presentations On Switch 2 Gameplay
Does this give any credence to the rumor of May release? I don't understand why they would do treehouse so early if the rumored release of June was correct as it would all fall in line... interesting...
Re: Introducing PLAYi - A Whole New Way To Not Play
Kinda had me until I saw the name Navn Mann (Name Man).
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Direct For March 2025?
Taking into consideration how long we've been waiting for this type of direct and the fact that this is the end of Switch 1, I think this was extremely poor. They should've at least had remasters of Zelda or something. Metroid Prime 4 looks great, but the presentation wasn't anywhere impressive even for Switch 1.
Re: 'Nintendo Today', A New Mobile App, Will Deliver Fresh Switch 2 News Every Day
This news as most of the direct was extremely meh. Shocked that Nintendo didn't have something really interesting to show on this direct, except -obviously- for Metroid Prime 4.
Re: New Nintendo Patent Seems To Confirm Mouse Functionality For Switch 2
@JSC016 Not really a leak. It's public information, just not announced by Nintendo.