I really need to start giving these games a chance. My kids adore them, and they contiuously make fun of my favourite "ugly" games, which are pixelated all the same, so it must be something special.
Wow... I am not a huge ai hater, but this... this is just plain ridiculous.
I was semi excited for this game. Loved the original, though I never got far....
But not buying this.
@Pickettfury You can take shortcuts... I mean, I am no stranger to shortcuts, and I have asked ai to create some textures for me, but there is a difference between asking ai to upscale something and just drop the result into your game, or asking ai to upscale it and then fixing up the mistakes it made.
And I understand there will be plenty of people who will say those are the same thing, both are equally bad, and I understand their sentiment, but I can somewhat understand relying on ai to do the first part for you and then finishing up the rest, but this is just asking ai to do everything and use the half-baked result it gives as a final product.
@Samalik Fair enough, the road towards most ai is paved with theft.
I still love the ideas I generate while using ChatGPT. I've had a lot of fun using it for my hobbies.
But yeah, should I use it for commercial gains, it's basically stealing from others. It's a deliberately grey area, I suppose. Not a lot of people give it much thought.
@VoidofLight I get what you are saying, but it's kind of the same as asking a farmer not to use machinery and rely on hoes to do his farming. Or a cook to produce his own vegetables and spices in his own garden.
AI, if used correctly, is a time saver. But like any tool, there is a proper and good way to use it, and bad ways. I use it as an idea generator and I am having fun with it. I am not using it to mass produce nonsense, trying to flog it for a quick buck. Designs are still me, I just ask AI to give me the ingredients I want to cook up something nice.
@Samalik Realistic textures are almost always made from photographing actual textures. That is then no less "cheating" or "stealing".
And no, most artist don't make everything from scratch. They can also take existing things and spin it into something new. Most do. Not a lot of art isn't derivative. AI can simply speed up some processes. And yes, you can also use it to cheat, but people catch onto that pretty quickly.
I was just reading an article over at Time Extension on NES cover artwork, were games like Contra had covers which were simply redrawings of Arnie and Sly and such. Heck, a tech looking panel from Streets of Rage was lifted from an Akira manga cover. Stuff like that happens all the time. Some of your fave music artists have probably sampled stuff. Well... maybe not metal bands if that's your thing, but it's not like they made their own fx pedals to get the sound they want.
@BobbleBubble As a hobbyist artist, I appreciate a lot of what AI can do. If I need a texture of a rusty console with some buttons on it, I can A: buy it from something like Shutterstock, probably not entirely what I am looking for, B: Find it in real life or C: ask AI for a rusty console texture.
What I make of it is still me doing the work. I just asked for a quick texture.
Is that lame? Some of you will say yes, some will say no. I just feel like I saved an hour or two worth of searching and retouching a simple texture.
Consumers won't know the difference, and it's not like I cheated an artist out of money.
SNES for me. Never liked the graphics of the N64, and GC never really had the ganes I wanted. Of course I spent countless hours on it anyways, but I have better memories of the SNES. That was my high school console, so...
My kids still play it on Switch every now and again, but I loathe the way they implemented the market place and whatnot. I bought a few add-on packs, especially skins, but I can never use them for some reason.
I am done with this game. And I was a very early adopter at around 2011.
If they reverted the "Shakespearian" script and went back to plain and dull Engrish, it'll be a no from me.
Edit: Seems they are keeping the script's tone from WotL, which I am content with. Missing a few extra cutscenes and a character that feels out of place anyways won't bother me. Hopefully the VA is mutable. I dislike VAs most of the time.
Seeing as I have read plenty ofnyour comments detailing your, quite frankly, insane backlog, let me tell you something...
Do NOT, under ANY circumstance, plan to play Disgaea 1 to 6 first before this one.
These games are EASILY 100+ hours per game, 200+ if you want to do a lot of the added content. These games are ridiculous. Leveling up your characters to level 999, your ITEMS to level 999, trust me, you do not want to get started on that.
Buy this game if you want, but expect a TIME sink. Also, there are cameos but the stories aren't that connected. You can easily start with 7.
And this is how you do voice acting. Voices that feel like they belong in the setting, with a script that feels like it belongs. None of this '90s Hollywood cool kids nonsense so many JRPGs are cursed with.
I'm glad there's an easier option included. I love the story, but I've outgrown the gameplay a little, I'm afraid.
@mlt That is 100% an issue of that is the best scan found online. Colour saturation and clarity should never be taken into account when voting on a Box Art Brawl, because especially with older titles, there is a big chance the art shown is from a photograph or scan, and not the source graphic, hence differences in picture quality.
@awp69 the Kemco then is a hugely different thing from the Kemco now. Sure, they released mediocre stuff back then as wekl, but also some really amazing stuff. Shame all they release now is basically low effort RPG Maker stuff.
@nhSnork Ahhh, I had one bootleg NES cartridge, and I LOVED it. Battle City was on it too, and it was amazing. A friend had another bootleg cartridge which felt even more exotic. Good times!
@timp29 Haha, no worries. There are multiple ways to interpret this entire story, and I am not even sure it's necessarily Grindr either... Though I would wager it would attract more male gamers than female ones, especially with the very apparent tongue-in-cheek name, but I also don't think there are that many people who are both Smash Bros gamers ánd gay.
Never heard of this before. Teacher here too but I didn't see my students do this. Did see the play another clicker once, but that was short lived.
I am honestly quite surprised to read so many comments here about how you guys played this.
@-wc- Don't know when you usually post comments on NL, but I'd wager it's during "idle moments"? Though those moments may be very short lived. I know I sometimes slouch off on my sofa and open up NL and TE to "recover" with. I should just rest entirely when I do though...
Right now I am in the train though, so might as well...
However, never ever will I waste my time with a clicker game. There are way better time wasters out there.
@Mommar Thanks for the reply. How did you go about finding venues to play at? Maybe I am just too scared to take a leap, but I don't really know where to start...
@NinChocolate Yeah, I guess you are right. I spoke too soon.
I went and looked up sales data. FF7 understandably did better, but 5 million for Chrono Trigger is no mean feat. Even if accounting for double dippers, and even if only a fifth of these sales are diehard fans, that would probably still mean a commercial success.
But I don't know. Maybe a million isn't worth it for Square, maybe it is... I wouldn't know...
@NinChocolate Games with a fraction of the fan base actually makes way more sense to remaster. No expectations means more people will enjoy it. Sky high expectations, like with CT, means a lot more disappointment. I mean, even here, right now, some are lamenting FF7 Remake. Nobody is complaining about the Romancing Saga remake.
The vocal minority is strong with Chrono Trigger. And let's be honest, they can do no right with this one. Whichever choice they make, there will be backlash.
@Mommar Not to hi-jack the thread, butnwpuldblove to hear more. I mainly produce music but have been thinking of DJ'ing as well. Only so much time in a day though, but if it helped you, it might also be for me...
Oh pahleaaase, as if the games he was reaponsible for didn't require any update ever whatsoever. How many games these days do NOT require day 1 patches? Those games may just as well be game key carts the way they don't include the full game.
@LikelySatan I'd say it is an easy mistake to make, but I'd wager 999 out of a 1000 times, someone saying any of those movies are good, they are being sarcastic.
@SoIDecidedTo Personally, I much preferred the N64 game. Same with F-Zero and Wave Race, I felt the N64 versions were much better. The GC ones felt like theyball played on 1,5x speed, and not in a good way. But I might be the minority in that.
Funny thing about this game, Wave Race and F-Zero, I preferred the N64 ones by a landslide. The GC versions were too fast for me. I liked the slower going varieties.
@LordDieALot Well, according to ChatGPT, I believe it was Rosa Parks whose husband was a NASCAR racer, so I wouldn't put too much "stock" (hur) into what he says. Chat isn't always right.
I have not touched my Switch in a long while. I simply do not have the time to play anything. But no worries, I did plenty other fun things. Other hobbies have taken precedence.
Well, the boxes are ugly enough to want to go full digital anyways.
I can't lie, Switch 2 isn't looking that appealing to me any more. Then again, maybe I just finally grew out of gaming. Or into another depression... or both...
@jezepy and calling it the Mansion Suit no less. A tiny added layer to the reference.
@mr12calvin A lot of people áre talking about it though. This site has an article about it too. And yeah, it's weird. They should've gone with at least double the storage right off the bat.
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Re: Star Fox Designer Was Relieved To Leave The "Amazing People" At Nintendo
@JohnnyMind Well, you've got a follower now! I am also starting up a channel but it's still a ways off.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles
I choose the dark one for a title such as Darkside Chronicles.
Re: Feature: "I've Made The Equivalent Of Like 2 And A Half Undertales At This Point"- A Quick 'Deltarune' Chat With Toby Fox
I really need to start giving these games a chance. My kids adore them, and they contiuously make fun of my favourite "ugly" games, which are pixelated all the same, so it must be something special.
Re: Front Mission 3: Remake Appears To Replace 2D Art Assets With Generative AI
Wow... I am not a huge ai hater, but this... this is just plain ridiculous.
I was semi excited for this game. Loved the original, though I never got far....
But not buying this.
@Pickettfury You can take shortcuts... I mean, I am no stranger to shortcuts, and I have asked ai to create some textures for me, but there is a difference between asking ai to upscale something and just drop the result into your game, or asking ai to upscale it and then fixing up the mistakes it made.
And I understand there will be plenty of people who will say those are the same thing, both are equally bad, and I understand their sentiment, but I can somewhat understand relying on ai to do the first part for you and then finishing up the rest, but this is just asking ai to do everything and use the half-baked result it gives as a final product.
This is just awful.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch 2's GameCube Library Next Week
This is the absolute best version. Charged was a slow slog of a game compared to the fast gameplay of this one.
I played it to absolute death. Was actually thinking of starting up a small league with the kids the other day.
Re: Level-5 CEO Sees AI As 'Tool For Communication And Efficiency Improvement'
@Samalik Fair enough, the road towards most ai is paved with theft.
I still love the ideas I generate while using ChatGPT. I've had a lot of fun using it for my hobbies.
But yeah, should I use it for commercial gains, it's basically stealing from others. It's a deliberately grey area, I suppose. Not a lot of people give it much thought.
Re: Level-5 CEO Sees AI As 'Tool For Communication And Efficiency Improvement'
@VoidofLight I get what you are saying, but it's kind of the same as asking a farmer not to use machinery and rely on hoes to do his farming. Or a cook to produce his own vegetables and spices in his own garden.
AI, if used correctly, is a time saver. But like any tool, there is a proper and good way to use it, and bad ways. I use it as an idea generator and I am having fun with it. I am not using it to mass produce nonsense, trying to flog it for a quick buck. Designs are still me, I just ask AI to give me the ingredients I want to cook up something nice.
@Samalik Realistic textures are almost always made from photographing actual textures. That is then no less "cheating" or "stealing".
And no, most artist don't make everything from scratch. They can also take existing things and spin it into something new. Most do. Not a lot of art isn't derivative. AI can simply speed up some processes. And yes, you can also use it to cheat, but people catch onto that pretty quickly.
I was just reading an article over at Time Extension on NES cover artwork, were games like Contra had covers which were simply redrawings of Arnie and Sly and such. Heck, a tech looking panel from Streets of Rage was lifted from an Akira manga cover. Stuff like that happens all the time. Some of your fave music artists have probably sampled stuff. Well... maybe not metal bands if that's your thing, but it's not like they made their own fx pedals to get the sound they want.
Re: Level-5 CEO Sees AI As 'Tool For Communication And Efficiency Improvement'
@BobbleBubble As a hobbyist artist, I appreciate a lot of what AI can do. If I need a texture of a rusty console with some buttons on it, I can A: buy it from something like Shutterstock, probably not entirely what I am looking for, B: Find it in real life or C: ask AI for a rusty console texture.
What I make of it is still me doing the work. I just asked for a quick texture.
Is that lame? Some of you will say yes, some will say no. I just feel like I saved an hour or two worth of searching and retouching a simple texture.
Consumers won't know the difference, and it's not like I cheated an artist out of money.
Re: Smash Bros. Pro Loses 11-Year Sponsorship After "Inappropriate Conduct" At Mario Kart World Tournament
@Erigen The event itself was literally about getting drunk.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Donkey Konga 2
While I REALLY like the US one, Japan's is way more festive and fitting. Europe is just boring. Like, why?
Re: Opinion: I Never Felt True Nostalgia Until I Played GameCube On Switch 2
SNES for me. Never liked the graphics of the N64, and GC never really had the ganes I wanted. Of course I spent countless hours on it anyways, but I have better memories of the SNES. That was my high school console, so...
Formative years, eh?
Re: Minecraft's Nintendo Players Request "Switch 2 Edition" After Graphics Update Skips Switch
My kids still play it on Switch every now and again, but I loathe the way they implemented the market place and whatnot. I bought a few add-on packs, especially skins, but I can never use them for some reason.
I am done with this game. And I was a very early adopter at around 2011.
Re: Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster Controversially Cuts War Of The Lions Content
If they reverted the "Shakespearian" script and went back to plain and dull Engrish, it'll be a no from me.
Edit: Seems they are keeping the script's tone from WotL, which I am content with. Missing a few extra cutscenes and a character that feels out of place anyways won't bother me. Hopefully the VA is mutable. I dislike VAs most of the time.
Re: Disgaea 7 Complete Is Launching Exclusively On Switch 2 In The West
@JohnnyMind Dear, dear Johnny,
Seeing as I have read plenty ofnyour comments detailing your, quite frankly, insane backlog, let me tell you something...
Do NOT, under ANY circumstance, plan to play Disgaea 1 to 6 first before this one.
These games are EASILY 100+ hours per game, 200+ if you want to do a lot of the added content. These games are ridiculous. Leveling up your characters to level 999, your ITEMS to level 999, trust me, you do not want to get started on that.
Buy this game if you want, but expect a TIME sink. Also, there are cameos but the stories aren't that connected. You can easily start with 7.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition
I like the colors in the JP one more, but Bison's smug face is amazing on the other one.
NA/EU for me.
Re: "The Will To Resist Is In Your Hands" - Final Fantasy Tactics Creator Shares Heartfelt Message
@CammyUnofficial Well, he said it himself.
The will to resist is in our hands.
I'll probably end up getting it real soon anyways, who am I kidding. The fear of missing out is strong with this one.
Re: "The Will To Resist Is In Your Hands" - Final Fantasy Tactics Creator Shares Heartfelt Message
Probably not a day 1 for me.
I bought Tactics Ogre day 1. Now, constantly half price.
I bought Unicorn Overlord when I finally saw a copy out in the wild, after months of being totally sold out everywhere. It is HEAVILY discounted now.
Same with Triangle Strategy.
And I barely touched those games, I never seem to find enough time to play.
Re: Bandai Namco Is Bringing Its Free-To-Play Dragon Ball MOBA To Switch
@Simu001 On Switch there will be no community. Just lobbies, going dryer and dryer until the plug is pulled again.
Communities, including toxic ones, are a PC thing. So no worries there.
Re: Final Fantasy Tactics Is Getting An Enhanced Revival On Switch And Switch 2
Yes!!!
And this is how you do voice acting. Voices that feel like they belong in the setting, with a script that feels like it belongs. None of this '90s Hollywood cool kids nonsense so many JRPGs are cursed with.
I'm glad there's an easier option included. I love the story, but I've outgrown the gameplay a little, I'm afraid.
Re: Feature: "It Was Always About Surviving Together" - Why Konami Chose This Forgotten IP For Switch 2's Launch
Baffling how they ditched the animé aesthetic in favor of Paw Patrol-esque graphics.
But hey, their game, their choice.
Re: Asphalt Legends Unite Speeds Up On Switch With "Limited-Time" Sonic Event
I LOVED that game but sooooo much FOMO. It got ridiculous and if I would jump back in now, the million little sub-systems will confuse me.
Had a blast with this game, but no more.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Marvel Vs. Capcom 2: New Age Of Heroes (Dreamcast)
@mlt That is 100% an issue of that is the best scan found online. Colour saturation and clarity should never be taken into account when voting on a Box Art Brawl, because especially with older titles, there is a big chance the art shown is from a photograph or scan, and not the source graphic, hence differences in picture quality.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy Library With Four More Titles
@awp69 the Kemco then is a hugely different thing from the Kemco now. Sure, they released mediocre stuff back then as wekl, but also some really amazing stuff. Shame all they release now is basically low effort RPG Maker stuff.
@nhSnork Ahhh, I had one bootleg NES cartridge, and I LOVED it. Battle City was on it too, and it was amazing. A friend had another bootleg cartridge which felt even more exotic. Good times!
Re: Random: Unofficial Smash Bros. Dating App 'SmashTogether' Shut Down By Nintendo
@timp29 Haha, no worries. There are multiple ways to interpret this entire story, and I am not even sure it's necessarily Grindr either... Though I would wager it would attract more male gamers than female ones, especially with the very apparent tongue-in-cheek name, but I also don't think there are that many people who are both Smash Bros gamers ánd gay.
I don't know...
Re: Goodbye Productivity, 'Cookie Clicker' Is Coming To Switch Next Week
Never heard of this before. Teacher here too but I didn't see my students do this. Did see the play another clicker once, but that was short lived.
I am honestly quite surprised to read so many comments here about how you guys played this.
@-wc- Don't know when you usually post comments on NL, but I'd wager it's during "idle moments"? Though those moments may be very short lived. I know I sometimes slouch off on my sofa and open up NL and TE to "recover" with. I should just rest entirely when I do though...
Right now I am in the train though, so might as well...
However, never ever will I waste my time with a clicker game. There are way better time wasters out there.
Re: Random: Unofficial Smash Bros. Dating App 'SmashTogether' Shut Down By Nintendo
@timp29 No, I think it is more about people using their joysticks to smash.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Mario Party 3
I don't dislike the others, but Japan is the most festive.
Re: Feature: From BOTW To TOTK - How The Switch Helped Me Overcome Mental Illness And Thrive
@Mommar Thanks for the reply. How did you go about finding venues to play at? Maybe I am just too scared to take a leap, but I don't really know where to start...
Re: Yuji Horii Acknowledges Chrono Trigger Remake Requests, Says He's Starting To Contemplate It
@NinChocolate Yeah, I guess you are right. I spoke too soon.
I went and looked up sales data. FF7 understandably did better, but 5 million for Chrono Trigger is no mean feat. Even if accounting for double dippers, and even if only a fifth of these sales are diehard fans, that would probably still mean a commercial success.
But I don't know. Maybe a million isn't worth it for Square, maybe it is... I wouldn't know...
Re: Yuji Horii Acknowledges Chrono Trigger Remake Requests, Says He's Starting To Contemplate It
@NinChocolate Games with a fraction of the fan base actually makes way more sense to remaster. No expectations means more people will enjoy it. Sky high expectations, like with CT, means a lot more disappointment. I mean, even here, right now, some are lamenting FF7 Remake. Nobody is complaining about the Romancing Saga remake.
The vocal minority is strong with Chrono Trigger. And let's be honest, they can do no right with this one. Whichever choice they make, there will be backlash.
Re: Palworld Dev Announces "Disappointing" Game Changes Resulting From Nintendo's Lawsuit
@Ogbert I'm afraid your very good explanation will fall on a lot of deaf ears here. Some folks just don't want to understand.
Re: Feature: From BOTW To TOTK - How The Switch Helped Me Overcome Mental Illness And Thrive
@Mommar Not to hi-jack the thread, butnwpuldblove to hear more. I mainly produce music but have been thinking of DJ'ing as well. Only so much time in a day though, but if it helped you, it might also be for me...
Re: Final Fantasy VII 'Creator's Voice' Implies Rebirth May Also Come To Switch 2
@UltimateOtaku91 Excellent pun good sir!
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Dev Tells Studios "Do Not Underestimate The Physical Edition"
@Zuljaras I did not know they were behind GOG. Then this interview makes even more sense.
It always struck me as kind of odd that those fancy new games by CDPR were always released on GOG. Now I know why, haha.
Re: Talking Point: With Prices Rising, Are Your Gaming Habits Changing?
No. Age rising on the other hand...
I just no longer have time.
Re: Former Assassin's Creed Lead Isn't Happy About Switch 2's Game-Key Cards
Oh pahleaaase, as if the games he was reaponsible for didn't require any update ever whatsoever. How many games these days do NOT require day 1 patches? Those games may just as well be game key carts the way they don't include the full game.
Re: Opinion: Switch 2 Finally Gives Star Wars Outlaws A Second Chance
@LikelySatan I'd say it is an easy mistake to make, but I'd wager 999 out of a 1000 times, someone saying any of those movies are good, they are being sarcastic.
Re: Opinion: Switch 2 Finally Gives Star Wars Outlaws A Second Chance
@LikelySatan Well, the writer said he WASN'T going to say that Clones was good, so you're good.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: 1080° Avalanche
@SoIDecidedTo Personally, I much preferred the N64 game. Same with F-Zero and Wave Race, I felt the N64 versions were much better. The GC ones felt like theyball played on 1,5x speed, and not in a good way. But I might be the minority in that.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: 1080° Avalanche
Funny thing about this game, Wave Race and F-Zero, I preferred the N64 ones by a landslide. The GC versions were too fast for me. I liked the slower going varieties.
As for art, NA EU on this one.
Re: Bandai Namco's Sci-fi Pac-Man Adventure 'Shadow Labyrinth' Now Up For Pre-Order
@LordDieALot Well, according to ChatGPT, I believe it was Rosa Parks whose husband was a NASCAR racer, so I wouldn't put too much "stock" (hur) into what he says. Chat isn't always right.
Re: You Can Now Hide Those Naughty Hentai Games On Switch
For a second there I thought you meant we could finally hide titles in the eShop, so I would never see them again.
Now I am sad. Hello Thief Simulator, welcome back to the sale section.
Re: Harvest Moon Meets Red Dead Redemption In 'Cattle Country' On Switch This May
I like the idea. Ever since Dark Cloud 2, stopping somewhere in the wild to build a township there makes me happy. I will probably get the demo.
Re: Nintendo Highlights Multiple Switch Games Launching In May 2025
I have not touched my Switch in a long while. I simply do not have the time to play anything. But no worries, I did plenty other fun things. Other hobbies have taken precedence.
Re: Grant Kirkhope Apparently Got A Bananas Reason For His Missing Mario Movie Credit
It's nice to be credited, and good form, but it's not necessary. He made the song for Nintendo to own, was paid for it, and that's really just that.
Again, it's good form to do so, but it's really not that big of a deal that they didn't.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
I prefer the JP one. I like the grey world map in the back, and it makes the characters pop. Too much red in the other one. Washes out the characters.
Re: Switch 2 "Code-In-A-Box" Physical Game Listing Spotted Online
Well, the boxes are ugly enough to want to go full digital anyways.
I can't lie, Switch 2 isn't looking that appealing to me any more. Then again, maybe I just finally grew out of gaming. Or into another depression... or both...
Re: Hitman's Switch 2 Pre-Order Trailer Shows Off Mario-Inspired Outfits And Goodies
@PikminMarioKirby They really did, didn't they?
@jezepy and calling it the Mansion Suit no less. A tiny added layer to the reference.
@mr12calvin A lot of people áre talking about it though. This site has an article about it too. And yeah, it's weird. They should've gone with at least double the storage right off the bat.
Re: Sega's Classic 'OutRun' Is Reportedly Getting A Movie Adaptation Led By Michael Bay
@Wakkawipeout No problem. She is known for acting so I get the mistake
Re: Sega's Classic 'OutRun' Is Reportedly Getting A Movie Adaptation Led By Michael Bay
@Wakkawipeout Sweeney isn't cast as the blonde. She is one if the producers.