@Matroska Not as true as you may think, as Nintendo has stated several times in their financials, digital Switch sales now account for over 50% of all software sales. Sure, they're probably inflated relative to the other systems, but not by as much as claimed.
But likewise, Nintendo doesnt share digital data with these sales charts companies, so when the overall monthly sales charts come out, Nintendo is actually massively underrepresented in the charts compared to the competition.
So we never actually get an accurate read on sales until Nintendo provides them with their usual transparency every quarter. Which is more than what the others do.
Really just leapt over Galar there huh. They added what, the mascots, Wooooo, some of the new evolutions and regionals, Wooooo, Falinks....and the two new titans? I think that's it.
@ancientlii I reckon offensively, it gives the user STAB on every type, replicating the boost that a Tera Type gives. So moves of your base and Tera Type get super strong, moves of your Tera Type that aren't your base type get STAB.
I think this'll be Omni-STAB from an offensive side, and just make Tera Blast a mini-nuke that's neutral.
@Half-ShellHero Except they got Frostbite working with PVZ a few years ago.
I'm not sure what the hold up actually was, it could have been money they ended up using to pay FIFA for all we know, or not having much manpower on it due to expecting Switch sales to die off but it looks like FIFA on Switch has done consistently well enough and the console itself refuses to die so they may as well make the investment now for the next one so they don't look like fools twice in a row.
@canaryfarmer It was probably quite far down the list below things such as "Actual Sewer", "Top of a Gamecube", "Pinball Machine", "A Rainbow", "Childs Bedroom" and "Cheese. Just Cheese".
@nomither6 Does it though? You've got the Boost. Granted that has, on some objects, the same launching properties as the Sonic Adventure era Spin Dash.
But I suppose it would be the first 3D implementation of the move since 2006, and the game does have the first implementation of the Drop Dash in 3D so it is a little odd it was absent.
Be interesting to see if after Bloomberg's report the stock price went up. If so, then a publication once again promised something that didn't happen and impacted the stock market.
Of course the Switch is getting long in the tooth. It's six years old based on tech from 7 years ago. Naturally, you've seen what it can do by now.
Yet this wasn't being said about the PS4 or Xbone at the relative point either. 2019 didn't have "It's getting long in the tooth", despite games very clearly starting to struggle. And the tech in those was even older relative to the tech inside the Switch now.
The difference though? Switch is still selling exceptionally well for a system this late in its life without a price drop, and those other two systems went off a cliff the second their replacements were mentioned.
@Minfinity The amiibo thing was stuff like Woolly World where every Nintendo and third party amiibo gave a skin....except Pokemon. Same with Mario Maker on Wii U, every costume has unique sounds attached....except Pokemon.
@Minfinity "The timeframe given aren't in their hands"?
Yes it is. Game Freak owns one third of the Pokemon Company. They make the games. They decide the scope.
Sure we don't know exactly how the Pokemon Company works beyond ownership percentages, after all this company didn't let Nintendo use the Smash Pokemon amiibo for anything Pokemon based as a bonus in other games when even third party developers were letting them do it, so clearly that shows some level of aggressive independence.
Plus, Ishihara famously said the Switch wouldn't work and seemingly wasn't keen on making games for it. Not something a company Nintendo has much of a say in would do.
@sixrings Sure. But is it a bad thing that they dont feel the need, in a slide to investors, state outright "Cheaper innit"?
I imagine right now, pushing this angle is to get more investors, because no duh it's cheaper, all these people care about is money, but if you can highlight it's environmental too, chances are you can pull some more investors in.
And let's be honest, everything in these slides is marketing, environmental or not. Look how well out games sell, invest in us please. Look at our subscribers, give us more money now.
Plus, I recall Nintendo had in previous years come under fire from various angles for not being transparent enough or doing enough with environmental responsibility. I can imagine this is now going to be a regular thing with the environment becoming more of an issue, and the history of groups going "Are you sustainable?"
To be fair, it's not hard to position the Switch as the more economical console when the other two are raising game prices and console prices (mostly Sony because of ballooning budgets to be fair, but Xbox seems intent to follow), and they also drink electricity like a drunk goes through wine.
Who knew stepping away from the graphical arms race would mean you can make a profit on every console sold, giving you greater price flexibility if needed instead of selling for a loss and then raising prices so you don't sell for even more of a loss, and also meaning you don't have to spend as much on games meaning those orofits don't just go into the next sequel, but across the business to fund more variety and niche products to get a broader userbase buying the console that makes a profit.
@EarthboundBenjy @Yosher Doesnt look like mobile gaming specifically, rather a company set up to control the digital aspects of Nintendo's business. So Nintendo Accounts, online stuff etc.
I don't think anyone actually knows how much sway Nintendo has with TPC. For instance, they aren't mentioned at all on the mobile games that TPC has made, and Nintendo also wasn't allowed to use the Pokemon amiibo for anything in Yoshi's Woolly World, but could for all the third parties including Square Enix, nor Mario Maker where the Pokemon didn't get unique sounds.
So how much sway they actually have and what 33% they do own is unknown.
Heck Ishihara went on record saying he wouldn't make games for the Switch initially. Sounds like something they dont have that much say in beyond contractual obligations to a cut of revenue.
@Anti-Matter Can't wait for her Electric types to be immune to Ground via ability or typing, or just Terastalize into a type that mops up Ground entirely. That seems to be a thing they're doing based on the Grass Gym.
@RupeeClock Jun Senoue did work on Sonic 3, one of his earliest SEGA credits actually, along with series composer Howard Drossin, they would later go on to Sonic 3D Blast.
I believe Jun did the bonus stage music in Sonic 3
@ModdedInkling It's easy to think that Nintendo is why this happened, pulling TPC's arm.
But remember, TPC doesnt credit Nintendo on any of their mobile games, despite being one third of the property owner, nor did TPC let Nintendo use Pokemon amiibo for anything in Yoshi's Crafted World, or Mario Maker. You just got either a sprite with generic sounds, or a generic amiibo shirt.
That's a little weird that a company Nintendo can apparently control wouldn't let them use an IP they therefore own to its full extent in their own games, yet third parties are gung-ho for it, isn't it?
@TheRealKyleHyde You'd disagree that it is an adjective, but that's the issue.
Should the word go the way of Coke or App Store etc. it would mean that, because the English language is such a broken mess, it could be challenged legally as something that people don't use as a noun anymore for it's intended purpose.
But that challenge can only happen in the first place because English is such a hilarious mess that it constantly changes. By using "Nintendo" to refer to a generic swath of things and brands, it can be argued it is a descriptor rather than a noun. A category of sorts.
And then we get into the whole is it an adverb, oroper noun, should copyright law account for x y and z. At least English just gender everything like many other languages.
@Degenerate_Mii It's married to the idea for the sake of game developers, explicitly third parties.
The more the OS has going on, the less RAM developers will have access to, and also the longer it can take to load into a game.
Never forget the Wii U OS load times because of how much the OS had going on, how busy it was and how much it did. The Switch OS is mere megabytes of RAM usage. If it had music, more visuals etc, thats more that needs to be loaded.
Heck, there were games on the 3DS, such as Smash and Generation 7 of Pokemon that took a really long time to boot, and also took a long time to go back to the Home menu. The reason?
The games upon boot had to tell the OS to effectively turn itself off so the games could load, stripping it down to the absolute bare minimum needed so the game could load what it needed to into RAM.
@Stocksy It was a clarification to another user's statement.
I didn't say it was good. In fact, I haven't shared my view on NSO, and it's probably a lot less positive than you imagine given my seething hatred for the N64.
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Re: Nintendo Reportedly Briefed Activision On 'Switch 2' Back In 2022
@burgerkingsauce You say that, but upgraded Switch talk and rumours started in 2017 when the damn thing came out.
Switch 3 rumours will begin before this thing is even revealed
Re: Round Up: Developers React To Unity's New 'Runtime Fee' Policy
Imagine rocking up to MiHoYo or Pokemon Company and demanding money for Genshin or Pokemon GO.
The fist would be firmly inserted.
Re: Surprise! Heart Machine's 'Solar Ash' Slides Onto Switch Next Week
@Vyacheslav333 Unreal Engine games either look like Yoshi, Fortnite, Octopath, Pikmin 4 or Hellblade.
Huh....thats quite a spectrum
Re: UK Charts: Nintendo Remains Strong As Starfield Warps Into View
@Matroska Not as true as you may think, as Nintendo has stated several times in their financials, digital Switch sales now account for over 50% of all software sales. Sure, they're probably inflated relative to the other systems, but not by as much as claimed.
But likewise, Nintendo doesnt share digital data with these sales charts companies, so when the overall monthly sales charts come out, Nintendo is actually massively underrepresented in the charts compared to the competition.
So we never actually get an accurate read on sales until Nintendo provides them with their usual transparency every quarter. Which is more than what the others do.
Re: Paldean Pokémon Will Start Appearing In Pokémon GO Next Week
Really just leapt over Galar there huh. They added what, the mascots, Wooooo, some of the new evolutions and regionals, Wooooo, Falinks....and the two new titans? I think that's it.
Re: Nintendo Plugs Mysterious New Tera Type For Pokémon Scarlet & Violet DLC
@ancientlii I reckon offensively, it gives the user STAB on every type, replicating the boost that a Tera Type gives. So moves of your base and Tera Type get super strong, moves of your Tera Type that aren't your base type get STAB.
I think this'll be Omni-STAB from an offensive side, and just make Tera Blast a mini-nuke that's neutral.
Defensively though....I have no idea.
Re: Pokémon Sleep Is Now Available In Even More Regions On iOS And Android
@RupeeClock 8.5 hours? EIGHT AND A HALF?
Goodness, I'm lucky to get 3-4 hours of sleep a night.
Is that what we are meant to do as a species?
Re: EA Sports FC 24 Apparently "Running Great" On Switch, Will Include "All The Modes"
@Half-ShellHero Except they got Frostbite working with PVZ a few years ago.
I'm not sure what the hold up actually was, it could have been money they ended up using to pay FIFA for all we know, or not having much manpower on it due to expecting Switch sales to die off but it looks like FIFA on Switch has done consistently well enough and the console itself refuses to die so they may as well make the investment now for the next one so they don't look like fools twice in a row.
Re: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass Wave 5 Arrives Next Week
@Fizza Renegade Roundup on Cheese Land. Crikey.
@Chapapa It's a Battle Course in Double Dash I believe. Other games have also had systems as battle courses.
Re: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Course Pass Wave 5 Arrives Next Week
@canaryfarmer It was probably quite far down the list below things such as "Actual Sewer", "Top of a Gamecube", "Pinball Machine", "A Rainbow", "Childs Bedroom" and "Cheese. Just Cheese".
Re: Rumour: EA Sports FC 24 Reportedly Due To Kick Off In September
Cant wait to see a Legacy Edition of a title that has just been made. That'll be legendarily impressive. /s
Re: Did You Know Gaming Uncovers The Truth Behind The Long-Rumoured 'Star Fox Grand Prix'
Lets ask Eurogamer, and also about Pokemon Stars while we are at it.
Re: Random: Sony's Upcoming 'Project Q' Is A Little More Wii U Than Switch
If the Dualsense Edge has the price it does this won't be far off.
Also taking bets on battery life for this Dualsense (5-8 hours) with an 8inch screen and constant wifi.
Re: Japanese Charts: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Dominates, Surprising No One
It seems TOTK may lean just over 50% digital all things considered. Nintendo did say in three days it sold over 2.24m in Japan.
Re: As Switch Momentum Slows, Nintendo Expects Further Sales Decline Next Year
Time to play the card they've avoided this whole time - drop the price.
Every other system, Xbox and Playstation met the same goals the Switch has hit by having several permanent price cuts.
Re: Sonic Frontiers' Next Major Update Is Supposedly Adding The Spin Dash
@nomither6 Does it though? You've got the Boost. Granted that has, on some objects, the same launching properties as the Sonic Adventure era Spin Dash.
But I suppose it would be the first 3D implementation of the move since 2006, and the game does have the first implementation of the Drop Dash in 3D so it is a little odd it was absent.
Re: Nintendo's Share Price Takes A Hit Following Latest Financial Report
Be interesting to see if after Bloomberg's report the stock price went up. If so, then a publication once again promised something that didn't happen and impacted the stock market.
Re: Soapbox: If You Thought Last Year Was "Sad" For Switch, 2023 Might Be Hard To Handle
Of course the Switch is getting long in the tooth. It's six years old based on tech from 7 years ago. Naturally, you've seen what it can do by now.
Yet this wasn't being said about the PS4 or Xbone at the relative point either. 2019 didn't have "It's getting long in the tooth", despite games very clearly starting to struggle. And the tech in those was even older relative to the tech inside the Switch now.
The difference though? Switch is still selling exceptionally well for a system this late in its life without a price drop, and those other two systems went off a cliff the second their replacements were mentioned.
Re: 75% Of Public Comments On Microsoft's Acquisition Of Activision Were Positive
@MrHonest Why would they make it exclusive? Think about it.
Right now Microsoft gets 30% of any CoD related purchase on Xbox.
When they own it, they'd get 100% on Xbox, %70% from Playstation, Steam and Nintendo.
If you're gonna leave that kind of money on the table you're out of your damn mind.
Re: Random: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet's Professors Were Designed By James Turner
@Vivianeat I feel this is because most Pokemon designers don't publicly speak or acknowledge what aspects they worked on.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Version 1.1.0 Announced, Nintendo Apologises For Performance Issues & Bugs
@Minfinity The amiibo thing was stuff like Woolly World where every Nintendo and third party amiibo gave a skin....except Pokemon. Same with Mario Maker on Wii U, every costume has unique sounds attached....except Pokemon.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Version 1.1.0 Announced, Nintendo Apologises For Performance Issues & Bugs
@Minfinity "The timeframe given aren't in their hands"?
Yes it is. Game Freak owns one third of the Pokemon Company. They make the games. They decide the scope.
Sure we don't know exactly how the Pokemon Company works beyond ownership percentages, after all this company didn't let Nintendo use the Smash Pokemon amiibo for anything Pokemon based as a bonus in other games when even third party developers were letting them do it, so clearly that shows some level of aggressive independence.
Plus, Ishihara famously said the Switch wouldn't work and seemingly wasn't keen on making games for it. Not something a company Nintendo has much of a say in would do.
Re: Pokémon Fans Vent Frustrations Online About Scarlet & Violet's Technical Issues
@Snatcher Countless games on Switch use Unity/UE4/CryEngine.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet's First Mod Has Removed Ed Sheeran's Song 'Celestial'
Of all the things people have complained about with this game this is what they do first.
Can't be that bad of a game then.
Re: Nintendo Considering "Various Initiatives" And "Further Enhancements" For The Switch Online Service
@Doomcrow If only that was feasible.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry's Technical Analysis Of Sonic Frontiers On Switch
@BulkSlash Sonic games historically sell best on Nintendo platforms. By large margins.
So this is just....lol.
Re: Nintendo Highlights The Environmental Benefit Of New Switch Packaging
@sixrings Sure. But is it a bad thing that they dont feel the need, in a slide to investors, state outright "Cheaper innit"?
I imagine right now, pushing this angle is to get more investors, because no duh it's cheaper, all these people care about is money, but if you can highlight it's environmental too, chances are you can pull some more investors in.
And let's be honest, everything in these slides is marketing, environmental or not. Look how well out games sell, invest in us please. Look at our subscribers, give us more money now.
Plus, I recall Nintendo had in previous years come under fire from various angles for not being transparent enough or doing enough with environmental responsibility. I can imagine this is now going to be a regular thing with the environment becoming more of an issue, and the history of groups going "Are you sustainable?"
Re: Nintendo Highlights The Environmental Benefit Of New Switch Packaging
@dew12333 It's both, not a binary issue. They aren't mutually exclusive.
Make the system more power efficient, cheaper for consumer to use, especially now.
Less packaging? Cheaper to make, less waste, can transport more units at once as each takes less space.
Re: Nintendo Highlights The Environmental Benefit Of New Switch Packaging
To be fair, it's not hard to position the Switch as the more economical console when the other two are raising game prices and console prices (mostly Sony because of ballooning budgets to be fair, but Xbox seems intent to follow), and they also drink electricity like a drunk goes through wine.
Who knew stepping away from the graphical arms race would mean you can make a profit on every console sold, giving you greater price flexibility if needed instead of selling for a loss and then raising prices so you don't sell for even more of a loss, and also meaning you don't have to spend as much on games meaning those orofits don't just go into the next sequel, but across the business to fund more variety and niche products to get a broader userbase buying the console that makes a profit.
Funny that
Re: Nintendo To Establish Joint Venture Company With Mobile Firm DeNA
@EarthboundBenjy @Yosher Doesnt look like mobile gaming specifically, rather a company set up to control the digital aspects of Nintendo's business. So Nintendo Accounts, online stuff etc.
Re: Pokémon Dev Job Listing References R&D For Next-Generation Hardware
@ThePizzaCheese Interesting you say that.
I don't think anyone actually knows how much sway Nintendo has with TPC. For instance, they aren't mentioned at all on the mobile games that TPC has made, and Nintendo also wasn't allowed to use the Pokemon amiibo for anything in Yoshi's Woolly World, but could for all the third parties including Square Enix, nor Mario Maker where the Pokemon didn't get unique sounds.
So how much sway they actually have and what 33% they do own is unknown.
Heck Ishihara went on record saying he wouldn't make games for the Switch initially. Sounds like something they dont have that much say in beyond contractual obligations to a cut of revenue.
Re: Iono To Reveal Partner Pokémon In Scarlet And Violet Stream On Friday
@Anti-Matter Can't wait for her Electric types to be immune to Ground via ability or typing, or just Terastalize into a type that mops up Ground entirely. That seems to be a thing they're doing based on the Grass Gym.
Re: UK Charts: FIFA 23 Knocks Splatoon 3 Off The Top Spot
@iLikeUrAttitude So if a game uses the same engine as the previous one, it's a rehash? Interesting.
Mario Odyssey, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, ARMS...all run in the same engine.
And....I'd actually kind of hope they'd use the same engine for Splatoon 3? Otherwise that's a whole load of unnecessary work.
Re: Game Journalist Doubles Down On Zelda News At Upcoming Nintendo Direct
@ThePizzaCheese Huh. I didn't notice.
Says a lot about how important that is then doesn't it 🤣
Re: Game Journalist Doubles Down On Zelda News At Upcoming Nintendo Direct
@Max_the_German Wind Waker HD was already 60fps on Wii U, so no worries there.
Twilight Princess HD I can't recall.
Re: Video: Digital Foundry Investigates Switch's Lowest Resolution Games
@Scrubicius Hello, I'd like to report a murder. 😂
Re: Sega Genesis Mini 2 Stock Expected To Be In Short Supply Locally
And that's definitely not hitting Europe then.
Re: New Rumour Suggests Advance Wars Could Be Delayed Until 2023
@Serpenterror Make Advance Wars 3? Have I got news for you
Re: "Screw This Game" - Sonic Origins Modder Halts Development On Massive Patch
@Fizza @Luminous117 There was a game called Sonic Genesis on the GBA. This was a port of Sonic 1. Fairly simple thing.
To do it, they took the Genesis code and put it in the Sonic Advance engine, and as we know the games in that series are...remarkably different.
In doing this the cheap and easy way, SEGA ended up with the worst running version of Sonic 1.
And then Stealth went and proved it could have been done properly anyway.
So that's how you screw it up. Be SEGA.
Re: Respawn Working On Single-Player FPS Set In Apex Legends Universe
I mean....that'd be Titanfall 3 then.
Re: Nintendo Supply Chain Disruptions See Switch Sales Fall By 33% In Japan
@Max_the_German Given the Switch Lite still uses Bluetooth for controllers and local play etc....doubt it.
Re: "Next-Gen" Anti-Grav Racer Redout 2 Delayed For Nintendo Switch (Again)
Just like the first one.
Re: Jun Senoue To Adapt Some Of Sonic 3's Music For Sonic Origins
@RupeeClock Jun Senoue did work on Sonic 3, one of his earliest SEGA credits actually, along with series composer Howard Drossin, they would later go on to Sonic 3D Blast.
I believe Jun did the bonus stage music in Sonic 3
Re: Random: France Bans Gaming Terms Like 'eSports' To Maintain Language Purity
@MrGawain Imagine if English tried to do that. It wouldn't be English anymore.
Re: The Official Pokémon Diamond & Pearl Sound Library Will Be Shut Down Next Week
@ModdedInkling It's easy to think that Nintendo is why this happened, pulling TPC's arm.
But remember, TPC doesnt credit Nintendo on any of their mobile games, despite being one third of the property owner, nor did TPC let Nintendo use Pokemon amiibo for anything in Yoshi's Crafted World, or Mario Maker. You just got either a sprite with generic sounds, or a generic amiibo shirt.
That's a little weird that a company Nintendo can apparently control wouldn't let them use an IP they therefore own to its full extent in their own games, yet third parties are gung-ho for it, isn't it?
Re: Nintendo Shares The Basics For Xenoblade Chronicles 3's Battle System
@AndyC_MK111 It's the 4th Xenoblade game, but it's okay, both the fans and Nintendo pretend the second one doesn't exist.
Re: Random: Here's Why Nintendo Doesn’t Want You Using The Word "Nintendo" To Describe Video Games
@TheRealKyleHyde You'd disagree that it is an adjective, but that's the issue.
Should the word go the way of Coke or App Store etc. it would mean that, because the English language is such a broken mess, it could be challenged legally as something that people don't use as a noun anymore for it's intended purpose.
But that challenge can only happen in the first place because English is such a hilarious mess that it constantly changes. By using "Nintendo" to refer to a generic swath of things and brands, it can be argued it is a descriptor rather than a noun. A category of sorts.
And then we get into the whole is it an adverb, oroper noun, should copyright law account for x y and z. At least English just gender everything like many other languages.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo Finally Gave Us Switch Folders, In A Very Nintendo Way
@Degenerate_Mii It's married to the idea for the sake of game developers, explicitly third parties.
The more the OS has going on, the less RAM developers will have access to, and also the longer it can take to load into a game.
Never forget the Wii U OS load times because of how much the OS had going on, how busy it was and how much it did. The Switch OS is mere megabytes of RAM usage. If it had music, more visuals etc, thats more that needs to be loaded.
Heck, there were games on the 3DS, such as Smash and Generation 7 of Pokemon that took a really long time to boot, and also took a long time to go back to the Home menu. The reason?
The games upon boot had to tell the OS to effectively turn itself off so the games could load, stripping it down to the absolute bare minimum needed so the game could load what it needed to into RAM.
Re: Three Sega Genesis Games Have Been Added To Nintendo Switch Online's Expansion Pack
@Stocksy It was a clarification to another user's statement.
I didn't say it was good. In fact, I haven't shared my view on NSO, and it's probably a lot less positive than you imagine given my seething hatred for the N64.
Re: Three Sega Genesis Games Have Been Added To Nintendo Switch Online's Expansion Pack
@Not_Soos checks
Its been three months since the last Mega Drive updates, one month since the last NES and SNES, and a week since N64.