Japanese Charts: Super Mario Bros. Wonder Absolutely Smashes Its Debut

Huh I was expecting higher sales numbers for Bros Wonder

I wonder if PS5 Slim model will help the PS5 sales number.

Have you guys seen the bidding prices for the Mario Elephant card?

@Zuljaras only in Japan worldwide not so much

Shocking sales for Sonic, Sega releasing the same as Mario really shot themselves in the foot.

For comparison, does anyone know how much 3D All Stars, Galaxy or 3D World sold in their opening weeks?

@Anti-Matter doubt it very much, people buy the console for the software that's on it, if their software only really caters for a western market then it's going to fail in Japan. Not good in their home market, even though in this day and age they are technically another western console. Like a more popular Xbox over there now.

@Zuljaras is Switch currently selling more than the PS5 right now worldwide? No it's not, that 130 million is from almost 7 years, the PS5 is the best selling of this year except for 1 country Japan

Still waiting for some copypasta about how technically Spider Man crushed Mario in Japan digitally, and how Final Fantasy XVI is still on track for 15 million sold, even though it's now in bargain bins over there. Don't let me down John!

Damn, that's an awful debut for Sonic Superstars. It truly was a awful idea to release the game so close to Mario. The difference is pornographic!

@KBuckley27 it sold a lot more than ps4 which is 10 years on the market.

And ps5 sales will also slow down because Sony goes in the direction of 1 exclusive per year and next to that service games. Not the best way to go. Also wondering why people would buy a psvr2 since sony seems to have forgotten that peripheral within a year already.

Nice to see a Sonic game in the Japanese top ten, this rare phenomenon only happened once a few gen. I'm surprise the Xbox Series X finally sell more than the Xbox Series S, I wonder what change cause usually Series S should had sold more due to Xbox having almost little to no physical games release in Japan. Also kinda feel sorry to all 27 New 2DS LL owners who just recently bought their New 2DS LL only to find out they can't download anything on it.

I'm more shocked that Spider-Man 2 didn't cause a huge surge in PS5 sales.

I'm amazed that Spider Man did so poorly, even beside the Wonder Release.

We all grew up with the story of how after Takuya Yamashiro's father was killed investigating a spaceship that feel to earth from the planet spider, Yamashiro was given control of a giant lion shaped combat robot by an alien who shape shifted into a spider to become his mentor, in exchange for vowing to hunt down and kill the group behind his father's death.

The Embracery from Hell! SPIDERMAN!

Oh wait is that not the plot of the game? Lame.

Japan definitely seems like one console country.
As where the UK is pretty spread across all three.

@WiltonRoots
You forgot if I am very different customer of PS5 games.
I'm not even looking for AAA games.
I'm looking for more kids games on PS5.
Of course my kids games choice are not even on Top 10 chart above, but who cares.
I enjoy my choices from PS5 games I can consider.

@Friendly what will be the best selling console by the end of this year? if you say Switch you are lying

@HeadPirate And don't forget about Takuya's greatest superpower... a machine gun!

Awesome! Such is the Wonderful Power of Nintendo, Mario and Elephants! Great sales for Spider-Man 2... but dang, poor Sonic. He deserved better.

All three games are awesome and deserve all the success they get, though.

A Bit low, isn't it, considering the size of the Switch's install base.

@OldGamer999 Yeah but that's cause the UK is three countries a.k.a. kingdoms: Scotland, England, and Ireland, the romance of the three kingdoms right there. Japan is only but one country so it make sense that there's only one dominant console there whereas in UK it spread across three cause Scot, Ire, and Eng all had their own taste of which console they like.

@KBuckley27

No one should be expecting the Switch to outsell the PS5 this year as one is in its twilight years and the other in its prime.

But that also doesn't take away fron the fact that Switch is still selling very well for a console in the 7th year of its life. It has also regularly been the best selling console in US even in 2023.

mario wonder is much lower then i expected... i figured it would break a million. i always though mario was bigger in japan then zelda..

@SBandy1 in japan yes.. japan is carrying the switch even though switch sales are down..overall..

Good software numbers overall. Wonder should have legs as well.

I'm one of those copies lol

@Serpenterror the United Kingdom is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, definitely not Ireland 🇮🇪

@Anti-Matter Yep I know you full well have your own niche taste in games. I think some people assume that big western "AAA" releases will translate across the board but they rarely do, that whole gritty realism thing doesn't typically go down very well.

@johnedwin you never disappoint...I had bets you'd be in by 4pm UK time and I wasn't far wrong!

For comparision:
Odyssey 1st week Japan sales: 580000
3d World and Bowser's Fury: 250000
3D All stars: 210000
U Deluxe: 165000

So I definitely don't buy into the "disappointing sales" reaction.

@johnedwin Which isn't a bad drop since it was the best selling console last year. I think it's ok for next gen to finally start selling better than a 7 year old humble hybrid. Just means we are all ready for Switch 2! Raar!

spiderman miles morales only sold 18 thousand first week in japan so this is a big improvement

My wife is japanese.

I've traveled to Japan a few times to visit her family. It's a fantastic country.

But, my taste in games is completely different from Japan. So sales in Japan are a bit irrelevant to my taste. I just find it interesting, but it's "another world" there.

SWITCH sales have certainly surpassed all expectations... Over 130 million and still going strong. 👍

@johnedwin

Actually not just Japan. Switch has regularly outsold PS5 and Xbox in US including this year and it still sells well in Europe often swapping places between it and PS5.

And again, the console is in its 7th year. It is still selling remarkably well.

Mario Wonder selling well in Japan and Spider-Man 2 doing okay in Japan shouldn't really be shocking to anyone. Mario Wonder will be consistent in the charts over the next few months and Spider-Man 2 will fall down like most PS releases in Japan. Tbh I wasn't expecting Spider-Man 2 to even sell 77K so it did better than I expected but it was never going to be a big hit in Japan. Both games are wonderful though, I've been swapping between both and having a great time

Well deserved sales for Mario. Sonic deserves more sales than that. I wonder why Sonic does not sell very well in Japan. It can not be the general style of Sonic games, can it? Feels pretty Japanese to me.

@KBuckley27 don’t know who you’re trying to fanboy or defend or something?
Sure. The ps5 is the best selling console of THIS year. Ok. Fine. Whatever.

There’s a pretty big chance the switch will become the best selling console of all time.

@Serpenterror

You can download all you want. You just can't buy anything new or redeem codes.

Big difference.

Xbox always see a huge sales spike in Sept/Oct because English Language university semesters start large August or early Sept. It's mostly foreign students.

Lol... it's a Wonder Sony bothers shipping product to Japan at all nowadays.

RIP 2D Sonic

I wonder why Nintendo Switch units sales are not boosted by Super Mario Bros. Wonder release...

@AmplifyMJ Isn't Wale just another part of England?

only 600.000 for Super Mario Bros Wonder debut weeks? i was expecting at least 3 milions for it debut week, 600.000 seen too low considering 2D Mario always sell astronomically high.

@Serpenterror No, and it would take 2 seconds to Google that.

Switch console & game sales numbers are doing fine, especially for this point in the console's lifecycle. Compare it to end-console sales for the Wii (or any console really, the Wii is just the best comparison) and it's steady & strong with a slight tune downwards instead of the hard drop-off most consoles experience at the end of their lifecycle. I think Nintendo's happy to be hitting Par right now if it holds the tide for the next console's launch.

Super Mario Wonder 638K
Sonic Superstars 4k

Admittedly this is on Switch, Nintendo's flagship console, but the difference is still simply astronomical...

@BobaTheFett America has a weird view of gaming? What are you talking about?

Poor Sonic Superstar... It deserves more than that.

Didn't expect that drop in hardware PS5 sales. Maybe they should introduce a Japanese Spiderman Yasu Kashiraki.

@Serpenterror
England in its very own is a pretty good multi console buying compared to a lot of other countries.
I mean currently PS5 rules.
With Switch and Xbox 2nd or 3rd each month roughly.
But the sales amount sold are normally pretty close.
Also England is high in having more than just one console per household.

@BANJO The fact its Superstars on Switch at 4K and the other physical releases are nowhere to be seen.....uhoh.

Honestly have been too busy with Superstars to play Wonder much. Looking forward to it though!

No one around the globe should be surprised by Mario release by now.

@SBandy1 2023 year-to-date, the PlayStation 5 has sold an estimated 2.37 million units, the Nintendo Switch has sold 1.55 million units, and the Xbox Series X|S has sold 1.22 million units.Oct 8, 2023

@johnedwin

And? What region does that apply to?

Also where are you getting the Xbox numbers from as Microsoft does not give that information?

@johnedwin What region is that supposed to be? Not Japan, so Why do you even mention that?
In Japan according to Famitsu Switch ytd is 3.264.834, PS5 ytd is 2.140.847 and XBS ytd is 118.501.

Great debut for Mario Bros. Wonder. Probably hits 1M or darn close to that with digital.

@Haruki_NLI Exactly, the other physical versions for Sonic Superstars sold even less than the 4k the Switch version did. It deserves better, it's a good game..

@chapuH Numbers! Perspective! Data! Context! Thank you for this. This comment section was sorely missing all of the above.

@chapuH wow idk why I thought Odyssey woulda been a bigger sell then. Sure the install base is bigger now etc but still surprising

@johnedwin These charts really seem to bother you mate.

@johnedwin Dude, what on earth are you on about? Are you trolling? Stop it!
You're not even responding to anyone. You're just spamming nonsense.

Wow, the difference beetween Mario and Spidey its almost obscene, i wonder (pun intended) if its the same in other regions 🤔

Sure Mario beat Spider Man in SALES, but if you factor in the moons gravitational pull, and that Germany will some day have a larger, or smaller economy than Japan, then you can clearly see Spider Man is the winner. No contest.

to put it into context their have been many switch games that have outsold mario wonder in it's first week in japan in fact some of these games have doubled and tripled mario wonder first week sales in japan for example splatoon 3 sold 3.45 million in it's first week in japan..

I totally forgot Pikmin 4 came out. What a ridiculous year.

@Friendly yeah, I mean I have a PS5 and a Switch (and Vita, 3dsXL, GBA SP, and portable emus). Normally I just kind of stare at itthe PS5 and try to think of something I want to play. The kids love it.

LOL at those Sonic numbers.

I guess Japan's wiser to the franchise's mediocrity than the sleepy West.

@EaglyBird

True, if I had to choose between Mario and Sonic, I would take Mario without a doubt.

Well better luck next time.

Mario outsold Sonic by over 150x!

@its_luke_c Looks like I missed the excitement and hilarity! I can imagine most of what I missed but I have to admit the mention of Germany baffles me.

@EriXz in the uk spidey outsold Mario. But I thought with a smaller margin.

@Maxz Yeah normally we'd get @westman98 pop in and drop some interesting stats, which I always enjoy...

@JohnnyMind Excited by the potential lifetime WW sales of Pikmin 4. We could be witnessing its launch into something close to mainstream. Nintendo may finally be seeing some results in all their efforts to develop this IP into something valuable.

(That was written oddly, but no time for editing, heh.)

@Anti-Matter for a guy who is on the Nintendo site, I only see you talk about Playstation, despite claiming to love both.

@Erigen It seems to have done the opposite.

You know Wonder is a system seller when 52,000 new Switches get sold on the same week. One week!

@Erigen @Anti-Matter I can't figure out why people expect gamers, especially older gamers to jump on PS5. I'm in my early 40's and I've honestly been underwhelmed by the next Gen priorities. Graphics! Polygon teeth in every character! 60,000 polygons in a girl's butt! I feel like it's a waste of resources. Doom 3 still looks amazing and that's ancient now. I feel like with every new NextGen they rehash the same games over and over and the justification is that the game has costing more than ever to make and that it's more sophisticated than ever and more immersive than ever, but when I see a new game on the PS5 on a 4K TV and all it's amazing glory, I literally tell myself I'm going I have actually played this before and it was just fine on the GameCube. I feel like all this extra expense in perfectly modeling characters teeth is a waste. I'm sure Spider-Man 2 is great, but not great enough to feel the need to get a PS5 for me anyway.

Does anyone else feel the same way I do? Or am I the only one?

@Danrenfroe2016
Here is the thing about me.
I only play kids games, even on PS5 and PS4.
I don't even like nor care about AAA games.

@Danrenfroe2016 also me buddy, i'm tired with most people chasing graphic rather than improve other else

@KBuckley27 right but the ps5 is newer…and switch has outpaced ps5 sales during the same period. The Switch is having the best year 7 of any console ever released. Pretty amazing a 7 year old console with older tech can keep pace with ps5.

@Danrenfroe2016 I’m older and yep I don’t really care either. For me it’s more about the feel of a game. Graphics are nice but the attempted realism leaves me cold. It’s that uncanny valley thing. I saw a cut scene from Spider Man 2 and switched it off straight away, those same dead eyed mannequins are still present but in greater detail.

@Danrenfroe2016 Agree. At some point the new consoles stopped being about allowing new types of games and enhancing gameplay.

The new systems are no longer being needed to make the gameplay possible. But instead the developers are now working backwards to purposely ensure the previous system is incapable of running... a game that functionally resembles something it could play.

I think it first became apparent to me in the 7th gen tbh. When Square Enix sank everything into graphics for FFXIII needing to make the world just corridors and "HD towns are hard". Meanwhile Monolith Soft used the Wii to create a bigger world for Xenoblade than Final Fantasy ever had with all directions in 3D space and overworld combat. There's the argument the Wii couldn't handle FFXIII but really the only thing it couldn't handle is the visuals, the Wii could certainly run a game where the game world is a series of corridors and every battle is a separate zone.

@FredBiletnikoff I can't stand Google though. I only Yahoo.