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@AshFoxX The developers have to do a lot more work to make a game look comparable on Switch... they have (so far) been doing great, but it obviously costs the devs a fair bit of time to optimise a game to run on a less powerful system... and they are passing that cost on. To be honest, for the value of having a good game handheld, I’m more than happy with a $10 premium if it means that devs are making the extra effort to bring games over at almost equivalent visual quality.

@JaxonH Yes I definetely agree that in this case, given they will be releasing a regular game next year means they have not lost sight of their core audience, which I’m sure will most definetely sell well. I am purely talking about the idea that ‘if it sells well we must have done the right thing’ attitude.

Overall, I think ‘Let’s Go’ will be a great game... and next years release probably more so.. I just don’t like the idea that sales would be primarily shaping what they think the audience wants. It obviously has to be a part of it, but should not ‘Necessarily’ discount the shortfalls mentioned by the (admittedly toxic) internet forums.

That said!
If every manufacturer, developer or designers came out with both a ‘casual style’ and also a separate ‘core audience’ version of their product as game freak will be doing, I would not be complaining

@JaxonH The problem with this comment, is that I see it as actually a powerfully ‘scary’ picture of the way that big movie studios (and now gaming companies) have seemed to operate. For example, if a franchise, let’s say Star Wars, has a big following, and they release a big budget movie but it’s not something the fans want specifically, it still makes huge numbers based on the fandom around the name and lore alone, but over time it loses popularity because the numbers were generated largely from the ‘name’ and not necessarily from the quality of the movie.. The studios think ‘it’s great’ because they made lots of sales, so the movie must have been good.. but in reality it’s just diluting their own brand. If Pokemon was just mediocre (and I’m not saying it is), the Pokemon branding was probably going to ensure lots of sales regardless. Just food for thought in how these companies percieve their results.

@Expa0 @Steve_Bowling Only partially correct actually - you don’t have to pre-order to get it - just have to have bought it and applied the gold coin redemption before the cut -off date (end of Jan I believe) for physical.

So after being on my launch game wish list - and being delayed now for what may end up being 2 years (with near to zero effort from the devs to inspire co fidence that it’s ever coming) I finally decided to just try the demo on the PC....

It’s generally great.... BUT.... the air brake mechanic in Wipeout is near perfect... and here, they tried something different, and unfortunately that’s exactly what it feels like... a sub-par mechanic that is just trying to be new but ends up feeling far far worse.. Sure, you can get used to it - though in Wipeout it always feels like you can make a corner at ANY speed if your reactions and skills are up to the task. In Redout it feels the opposite, like your turning power is based purely on ship ability and ‘sidestepping’ (the feeling that the equivalent air brake-type mechanic exibits).

It’s not a bad game.. just no where near what I had hoped. I feel like the air brake was done so well in wipeout, that to provide something similar but at least in my opinion far worse, was a mistake, in an effort just to be different.

Looks great and sounds great mind you - just feels very B grade in the controls department having been a long time wipeout fan since 2097 (XL).

@baller98 I actually use a mini bluetooth adaptor straight into the Switch itself (mainly use it for wireless headphones).. works perfectly and is far far smaller than the 8-bitdo one.

@Equinox Bare in mind that although of course talent is required, it mainly requires money.. in that most other devs, could probably do the same thing, but don’t want to spend the money or the time optimising their games to do so.

What that means is that if Panic Button decided to make their own games, there would potentially be other developers that could be utilised to do the same thing, if money was thrown at them.

Personally I think that Panic Button have done a great job with the current ports - however I do believe they probably could have done even better with a bit more time (and budget I assume?).

@Grez Baffling?? It’s fairly logical from an economical standpoint. Game hardware companies (including Nintendo) generally either make a loss, zero or very little money on console hardware, especially near launch... They are not interested so much in selling the hardware for profit, but instead they want more hardware sales so that they can then sell more games, where the profit is primarily made

It’s not a huge benefit for them to sell more hardware with this app, if those same people (and existing owners) buy less games than they currently do once they own that hardware.

@Tsusasi In Terms of the risk I think you misunderstood what I meant - I don’t mean legal risk - I mean that it would be publically assiciated with Nintendo if something went wrong, and yet it actually has nothing to do with them - therefore it’s a PR risk for them.

@Tsusasi On top of the IP side of things - if someone crashes and hurts someone (or themselves) it looks like (and will be reported) as a Nintendo related accident/problem... Nintendo has no control over what this company does, so of course they don’t want to increase their assumed risk for something they have nothing to do with.

@dazzlerJJD The issue for me (or anyone) should not be ‘6Gb’ - it’s why is anything required when you’re buying a physical product... and the answer is simple... they can get away with producing and releasing the game early and can just keep working on it as long as they want.... instead of the technology of updates and dlc being used to ‘improve’ games in comparison to the older generations, the devs are taking advantage of this ability and releasing half finished games (which is more of an issue when buying a physical product).... the game cart that you buy is basically just becoming an ‘access key’ instead of the game... which is not great.

@Whalehome Actually Nintendo is generally providing it - their first party games are ‘usually’ tested and fairly complete as a package before release... they are probably the only devs doing that in this age of dlc/updates.

They keep working on changes as do the others, but their games are usually a (at least reasonably) finished product when they are launched.

Why even have physical if they are essentially becoming just access keys... it’s a bad trend.

@Cobalt It’s a systemic problem in the industry - ever since the abilty for developers to update a game at any time became available to them, they take advantage of it to print the physical copy early, before the game is ready or fully tested, and then just continue to work on it until release (and beyond)... physical copies become basically access keys, which is rediculous.

It’s all about money and it’s a terrible trend that devs / publishers have been allowed to get away with.

Not paying for the larger cartridges has also been an added problem on top of this.

@Emperor-Palpsy @BoFiS @subpopz @NIN10DOXD I know these days it seems old-skool, but because I have heaps of high capacity AA rechargeable batteries I prefer it purely because i can just swap them out instantly without having to plug in the controller if it dies unexpectedly.

@RazumikhinPG Actually I just remembered - the Switch I have now is actually not my launch version (first one was stolen and definetely had the issues), so maybe they updated the hardware?

@RazumikhinPG Out of curiosity, do you still have the controller sync issues? I haven’t had them for at least a year?

@kobashi100 Interesting you mention the performance drops as I’ve been playing all weekend and haven’t seen one yet?

EDIT : I’ve only played handheld so far.

@NewAdvent Read the post by @cfgk24 for an understanding of why this makes sense. Sure it’s not great for consumers (in the short term), but it’s a good move to keep smaller retailers in business which has often been a problem over history, which in the long run ensures competitive pricing, rather than larger companies being able to dictate pricing with more ease once the smaller retailers are out of the picture.

@EmberTune Haha, Wilson

@ValhallaOutcast There are sometimes other factors involved, but if you convert to bytes that will give the approx amount (in theory).

ie 400 / 1.024 (in Gigabytes),
so approx 390GB.. but as mentioned, depends on how they calculate, results may vary.

@NEStalgia Although what you say is ‘generally’ correct... a 10MB/s sustained write means that you can still max out your internet speed at 80Mb/s download..

Clearly my internet provider must be behind, but where on earth do normal people get 240 Mb/s download - and there’s no way the Switch is capable of those wifi speeds surely!?! (30MB/s)?

@ryancraddock

I’ve been meaning to mention that (forever) when clicking your amazon links from an Australian location, it goes to ‘Amazon.au’ which is a non existant address... should be ‘amazon.com.au’

@TJWorks Well, all up there have been an extra 9 characters since June this year right?

@yonato Was that a joke? You mean it looks a lot like Advance Wars right?

@Dom Nice review, thanks might check it out.... but your tagline of might outstay it’s welcome - this means that it might be a game that is not welcome (bad)... are you sure that’s what you were going for with that play on words?

@ryancraddock I’m so confused - even if I hold my joycon up to the screen they are identical to the picture... The only thing that makes them look a bit different to mine is that they have the coloured holder/ LR button slider on top instead of the black.

A whole section of an article over literally nothing? So confused.

@Francema If only they worked on features that ‘were’ requested... this feature is ‘ok’... but there are many other features that would be far more appropriate.... allow me to backup saves to a USB or otherwise BEFORE my switch was stolen would have been nice... for example. Nintendo’s mindset is so incredibly flawed in so many areas it blows my mind sometimes.. The rest of their product gets praise (for good reason) but they always ALWAYS do things that are just rediculous to just about anyone who plays a game..

It’s so obvious that a few changes here and there to their ideas and marketing could make them great... but they seem to miss the ball so many times and it’s almost always over the smallest little things that didn’t need to be the way they are.

@BANJO For them to not pay the extra for the larger cartridge and make the game a digital download even if you buy the physical game, does not help.

@olrodlegacy @ryancraddock

As good as the game might be - there is a real stigma with the physical version - for those who buy digital - fine - but for the people who would have bought it at retail/physical, the download required is a real turn off (not just for space, but that as well)... on principal the whole point of the physical cartridge is so that the game is on the physical cartridge... I buy at retail for this reason and if they are going with this strategy I’m happy to give my money over to other games. I say this from experience with the fact that myself as well as at least 3 other friends have opted not buy this because we all seem to like having the physical game - Plus it seems to be a common comment among forums as well, so we’re not alone.

They saved some dollars on the cartridge but I wonder how many they lost because of an all digital game.

@maruse The issue is not that - the issue is that there is no other option - ie that there is no ability to back up the device saves locally, which every other console (and device?) since 1995 has had. They are saying pay the extra money continuously or too bad.

@JayJ I agree it shouldn’t be ending marriages - but a kids game is a game that only kids play... That’s just a nonsensical comment. By your logic any game is just a kids game really.. but even if that were true.. it shouldn’t stop people playing it. The addiction is the issue here, not the game.

@Dogorilla If you have a look at my other comment, I think it is actually a decent problem - especially considering it doesn’t have a standard ability to backup by usb or otherwise.... that’s the main issue.

@JaxonH Well not really - because I personally have already been in several situations where it matters more than you say..

1. I sold my PS4 and obviously stopped paying for PS Plus.. later I decided to buy a Pro so signed up for Plus again and had all my old saves. Perfect.

2. I stopped playing my Switch for a while... because it was stolen. I didn’t want to pay for a new one straight away... Even if the cloud data existed, I would have to keep paying for the online service until I bought again.

If they are going to delete the data... the least they could do would be to allow usb / local backup of the saves.... as per virtually any device ever made... but at the moment it’s only on the system (or cloud while paying)...which is why I stopped playing Zelda for example... completely lost saves because had no option to backup locally... such a simple solution... if cloud is deleted... let me at least back it up.. come on.

@Dogorilla ..Obviously not, this is talking about Cloud saves.

@TJWorks I think it was a great showing but I agree there also wasn’t a huge amount for me there - Except - Daemon X Machina still looks great. Yoshi looks great too, but not sure it’s my thing.. I’d go a Yoshi’s island remake for sure though.

I’m really hanging out for a good racing game - i.e F1 (CM) or Dirt series, Wave Race, F-Zero etc.

V-Rally is giving me the mobile game feelings, rather than a quality game.

@Heavyarms55 Except they have not gotten the hang of understanding what a ‘physical’ copy of a game means.

@Ibou07 I am not saying that 60fps isn’t nice - but the majority of games on Ps4 did not run at 60fps until about a year ago. I don’t recall ever having a problem with (a solid and consistent) 30fps.

@Nintendo4Sonic

Hi - can you tell me if the framerate is smooth? I’m desperately awaiting a Wave Race announcement and this is obviously tempting but the videos I saw look a bit inconsistent in the frame rate department.

@Gold_Ranger I’m not sure if it’s been edited since you saw it but the writer says ‘A Frankenstein creation’ - which is correct!?

@Syntaxkita It seems most people don’t realise that online gaming uses ‘VERY’ little of your 50mbps... Very little... it’s latency that you need to be low.

You could play most online games on 512kbps IF the latency is low. This is a fact.

@gaga64 Interesting. If no one even mentioned it and they brought it up themselves then I can understand.

rolls eyes.

If a playstation controller is ever released in bright yellow with blue dots it will definetely only be a playstation exclusive...... obviously.. because it’s a ‘playstation’.... controller.

Amiibo... is... obviously.. an exclusive... IF it were to ever happen... their comment doesn’t hint at an amiibo at all... it just states the obvious.

Been waiting for this since day one - but devs are almost silent most of the time in regards to progress - almost want to skip the game based on their attitudes.

Given that the listed release date was almost a year and a half ago it would seem logical that they would want to maintain the community’s interest, but instead they basically ignore them.

@zool I agree with that - just saying that the physical game which is what this article refers to is unlikely to be cheap at any point as it’s a limited run game.

@zool Umm..this article is related to the limited run physical edition / collectors edition - If you see it for 20 pounds in the next 2 years let me know lol.

@CCore28 Actually this was also on their Sony Push Square sister site and equally badly received - news is news. The news here being that Sony has essentially confirmed they wont consider Cross Play because ‘LOL reasons’.

@Wanjia ...No

@justin233 The ‘Starfox’ part of the game.... is the ‘whole game’.. you can play the whole game as Fox.

In ‘Addition’ there are also Starfox only missions.

@BadWaluigi2 If I look at it from Nintendo’s point of view (which I am - because I want to know why they wouldn’t support it) I come up with several reasons, but mainly :

The controller doesn’t have a strap like other motion controllers, but it’s expected that you will need to violently shake and move the (relatively heavy) controller in the game - that itself is a reason why Nintendo would potentially opt to not encourage/allow it’s use.

@Razer Lol 30 pounds cheaper? It’s literally $8 more for pro controller than PS4 here.