Sony Won't Allow Fortnite Cross-Play Because "PlayStation Is The Best Place To Play"

The best way to play is what ever the public decides to buy. The decision to not allow crossplay will haunt them when PS5 comes out. People want to play with freinds and family regardless of what platform they're on.

Sony is evil. Sony is bad. Etc

This is where the trolls will reveal themselves, by claiming that this is no big deal, when you know that if Nintendo did this they'd be sharpening their pitchforks.

For the players...

Boring PR arrogance.

It'd work better if it were actually true. Ironically it isn't because of the lack of crossplay.

And of course because the Xbox One X and gaming PC vastly outperform PS4.

Wife, hand me my pitchfork! We‘re going to war!

@xpromisedx Hahahaha, What about torches? Gonna have to burn the corpses when we're done.

That's a false statement since the Dreamcast still exist.

Sony is trying very hard to be the Apple of consoles. And no that's NOT a good thing.

Yet they have crossplay with Steam, iOS and Android!

Is "Playstation" Japanese for PC? Because that's the only way that statement makes sense.

Nintendo should fix it's online services first before their dumb fanboys even start talking about cross play. Nobody likes to play with laggy Switch gamers who get disconnected every other minute.

Not really buying that. More like Sony wants players to remain playing on Playstation and locking F2P accounts to their ecosystem is one way of achieving that. They don't want people to migrate to other (console) systems. Simple monetary decision that is completely understandable in that light. All the big companies make these kind of decisions and dress it up in PR. It doesn't really fool us.

Console gamers are getting pwned by PC users everytime cause keyboard+mouse is the superior way of playing FPS. So yeah its not true.

@CCore28 Not one for reading the article, are you?

The arrogance!!! wow.

Oh Dear, Sony being up it's own arse again

I just spoke with Sony and they say there are willing to enable cross play as soon as someone plays 10 multiplayer Splatoon games in a row without any player dropping out during the match.

That comment would look way better if it was done with complete honesty. Something like 'we need to care about our player base staying within our ecosystem. That is the best for our business and bla bla...'

You know, what we all know and understand. Why they haven't been honest about this is puzzling. They'd be better off without their CEO talking like this.

I wouldn’t mind if the PS4 version was locked to play against only PS4 users, but I really wish I could have all my skins available to me

It'll take a repeat of the PS3 era for Sony to realize how big of a mistake this really is.

@CCore28 Sony's CEO makes a ludicrous defense of a practice intended only to stifle its competition. It's not just "Nintendo fanboys" laughing at him.

@BigKing 200 hours of splatoon gameplay and only 2 disconnects. But yeah.. bad nintendo!

sony wants all that money Im sure nintendo dont take it personal. thats business

Well Sony, I would 100% argue that it’s not the best place to play. I had a PS3 right next to my Wii and Wii U, got a PS4 near launch, and until March 2, 2017, I was a pc/ps/Nintendo gamer. But since I play about 70% of the time mobile, and with switch’s increasingly awesome looking library, I haven’t touched my PS4 more then 5 times since I got my launch switch. And my 1 son who has been a die hard ps fan, has slowly moved over to switch, and the only game he plays on ps is fortnite. And I know he wouldn’t if there was crossplay so he could play with his friends who don’t have switch. I wonder how much money Sony has lost since I don’t feel like it’s the best place to play. The 60+ switch games I’ve purchased since launch and 0 PS4 games to be exact. I am not a fan boy, just a gamer who would rather play the same game, at home or on the go. Switch is the best place to play, and if you don’t agree, just keep watching it’s amazing library continue to go. The few Sony exclusives I miss are far out weighed my the Nintendo ones I get to play.

@Ensemen You never have other players disconnecting during the match?

Perhaps there is no PC Master Race, but rather a PS Master Race? My God, what have we loosed upon the world...

An online game is always best played with the least amount of possible players available /s.

But let's look at it from a different perspective:
Epic tried to push them to open up and yet, still keeps their game on the platform. I think they even partnered with Sony for a console bundle.
If they really wanted to set a sign, they would have pulled the game from Sony platforms alltogether.
As long as they play along with it, nothing will change. And why should it? Sony makes loads of money and their "for the players" slogan hasn't been worth anything for ages now.

@BigKing I agree that that is a valid point for Nintendo, but for Xbox not so much, so still only part of the picture.

@Einherjar I can't expect Epic to pull their game over Sony's dumb policies, especially when most PS4 Fortnite players probably don't care. I'd say the fault is all Sony's for locking players out of using their accounts on other platforms (a real jerk move) and concocting this "explanation" that insults their users' intelligence.

@CCore28 I guess that's what I get for trying to have a sensible conversation with some people. "Answer a fool according to his folly..."

@CCore28 You do realize tagging people and thanking them for "proving your point" is not actually "proving your point", right? Nothing @Dr_Corndog said proves your point. I get disliking people trash talking things all the time, but sometimes, it's warranted. This is definitely one of those times. Sony is clearly behaving to benefit their own interests, while trying to claim it's for the customer's best interests, which is asinine and deserves to be called out. It's not that Sony refusing to allow cross-play is irrational. It makes perfect sense - just not for any of the reasons they're trying to convince people of.

It's an honestly shocking lack of humility and humbleness that blows my mind. Living in Japan has shown me that Japanese politeness is more than just a stereotype. It is a very big part of their culture. Every culture has its outsiders of course, but I was shocked, and I have only lived here for 3 years. Even my middle school students rarely have such bloated opinions of themselves, and that's the age most people assume you are your most self centered. (No offense intended to any younger readers, it is just part of growing up)

For the CEO of a Japanese company to be so proud and boastful so directly and openly... Well, I was shocked when I heard the story.

WELP! Time to sell my PS4. I was looking for a reason and Sony basically just handed it to me on a silver platter.

@Sakura But the fanboys would've been even more angry if they offered cross-play with the Xbox but not with Nintendo.

@BigKing I have several matches in Splatoon 2 where disconnects are rare. Haven't noticed any at all in Ranked, at least. Although I am aware it happens, its very rare for me, personally. In the waiting lobby, however... Different story. People jump in and out all the time, but I think that's down to the players themselves.

@DreamerDC Arguing common sense would require some-sort of counter argument, which he hasn't made. You don't have to be a fanboy of anything to recognize that Sony's stance and behavior is rubbish.

Well he has never played on a Samsung Galaxy Note 9 then, it's much better than a PS4 ., You get to play with other platform users and you get a cool exclusive skin .

@ThatNyteDaez I'd just ignore him if I were you. I've seen him around here for a while, at first I thought he was someone that gave Nintendo legit criticism but as of late I think it's just a case of he's either a) a troll (the whole calling Sony thing is pretty laughable) or b) somebody that just wants to trash talk them at any given oppurtunity.

@Dr_Corndog Which is exactly why i would expect Epic to pull out of it. If such an anti-consumer bull is just brushed off without consequences, things will never improve.

While PlayStation has a gigantic player base, the PC/Xbox/Switch/Mobile block should be dwarving it enough to enable them to drop PS without much revenue cuts.

But oh well...game industry gonna game industry i guess :/

If this was Nintendo restricting crossplay in Fortnite instead of Sony, I can guarantee you that everybody trying to downplay the whole thing and twist it into being "just a fanboy thing" would be the ones screaming bloody murder and calling their actions inexcusable. You can try to deny it but you know it's true :/

Here's the factual opinion on this whole restricting crossplay thing:
If Sony did it = it would be bad
If Nintendo did it = it would be bad
If Microsoft did it = it would be bad
If any outside source did it = it would be bad
IT. IS. BAD.

@ThatNyteDaez If you never saw this message:

'Some players disconnected early on, so the Rank Meter will not change.'

you're part of the problem.

I'm S+ btw. Maybe you didn't notice it at lower ranks because they shoot randomly any way. You might still be able to win too with 3v4

@Bliquid Nope. PC is the best platform to play on. It's always been the best, and always will be. Every single console is trash compared to that.

@CCore28 Guessing you didn't read the article. If Playstation was indeed the "best place to play", they wouldn't need restrictions. This isn't about being a Nintendo fanboy or hating Sony. Their statement was at best scummy and at worst downright contradictory. As they say themselves, they've opened crossplay for some titles.

Why have they not done it for Fortnite? Simple. Because they know people don't universally share the sentiment that "Playstation is the best place to play", meaning people who don't necessarily like Sony's console would just buy one that suits them more (or a pc for that matter) and play together with their friends anyway. This way, you force them to buy your product to play with their friends.

It's a viable business tactic, but it is one that leaves a trail of flames.

@DreamerDC I mean, he's not even arguing. And you're not exactly doing so hot either. The entire subject has nothing to do with being a fanboy either. If Nintendo was doing this, the same uproar would be ensuing. If Microsoft did it, the same.

Only PC as a platform could do this without catching fire. Because it is the superior platform.

Either way, Sony is just being Sony here, going at it trying to beat their own high score of how many times they can possibly contradict their slogan "For the Players". People will still buy their exclusives, people will still play Fortnite on their inferior platform, and so will people on other platforms... Just, you know, with each other, regardless of platform, because it's a good feature that should be guaranteed nowadays.

@CCore28 Actually, you proved my point.

Them’s fightin’ words feller!

I detect a hint of bias in that comment.

"The Best Place to Play" ??!!
Pfffffft......!!!
Let me fix that sentences....

PS4 = The WORST Place to Play EVER
(Because of Stupid Locked Cross Play)

Now, i'm thinking to remove my PS4 completely very soon, because i think i have some Win-Win solution about my last 6 PS4 games i have.

I am quite sure Sony/Epic are in breach of GDPR on this subject. One of the articles in GDPR are the right to data portability. Any EU citizen that have had a fortnite account tainted could challenge this.

@anders190
Oh, btw.
Is XBOX One X has White color ?
Does the machine HAVE to be Online in order to play my games ?

Yet mobile is of the same quality? So they get to play with that?

@Yorumi
Um...
Btw, is your laptop 8 GB RAM or stronger ?
I'm thinking to play the PC version of The Sims 4 on laptop.
What is best laptop to play with low budget ?

@bluemujika that’s a very good idea! Thank you! Wife, you heard bluemujika! Prepare the torches!

Screw that egotistical brat of a man.

@CCore28 Actually this was also on their Sony Push Square sister site and equally badly received - news is news. The news here being that Sony has essentially confirmed they wont consider Cross Play because ‘LOL reasons’.

@BigKing If talking about people getting disconnected in fortnite, it's then epic servers, not Nintendo's

How is this a "strange comment to make"? Every console manufacturer says their console is the best console for your money. I don't see Nintendo going around recommending people to buy consoles other than theirs...

@BigKing Check your wi-fi. I never had a disconnect during Fortnite.

@dimi That's not how fortnite crossplay works...

@Einherjar I so wish they did that, it cause a mess, and be hilarious to watch Sony fall

"Hi, I'm Captain Toad and I'm the best treasure tracker there is.
I don't need to hunt down the double cherries that everyone else is doing because I'm the best there is."(Specifically hiding the fact that those rare cherries are hiding in dark caves)
That wouldn't be good for my reputation if I said that out loud without revealing the real reason.

@OorWullie because it's not a threat to them. That's why they allow it why their stance is hypocritical.

Sony will get a good face slapping when they launch the PS5 without cross-play support, while the rest of the industry does.

They got lucky with the PS4 success, because Microsoft screwed up with the Kinect fiasco when the Xbox One launched, but the Xbox One X is one amazing piece of engineering. I am currently buying and playing much more on my Xbox One X now than on the PS4. I only use it now for exclusives.

Next console generation, it will be fair game again between Microsoft and Sony with Microsoft going all in on Cross-play, while Sony tries to play the Apple game.

Good luck!

Man, the comments are going wild..
PC fanboys shouting that PC is 'objectively' the best system to game on.. Seriously? As a PC gamer myself, how ignorant can you be? Every system got it's own pro's and cons. The best system can not be a fact, it's an opinion.

Then you have the Sony fanboys who defend this. I honestly get why Sony doesn't want crossplay, but this is a situation where you can't talk yourself out of. Especially not with a comment like 'we have the best system because we have the best sales!' I'm sure Sony get what it deserves, just like Microsoft and Nintendo got.

Like @Tarolusa said, it doesn't matter who denies crossplay.. If it's Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo or even Steam. It's bad for the gamers. Gamers are getting screwed enough with (bad) microtransactions, lot of DLC for huge prices, empty games, high GPU prices, and more.

But hey, let's all state your opinion as facts. That will help.

@MasterJay How about it isn't the server but little kids with the weak Switch wifi on their crappy wifi network with a cheap ass internet connection? They seem to just run out their house with the Switch in their hands until the connection gets lost. Never underestimate how dumb Nintendo players are.

@BigKing Disconnects in Splatoon have nothing to do with the Switch, though. I've played 50 hours of Paladins (which has crossplay, BTW) on Switch and had two or maybe three in-game disconnects. Likewise, disconnects in ARMS are very rare.

I'm reminded of the phrase "Cutting off one's nose to spite one's face."

@Anti-Matter you can buy the sims 4 for your ps4.

I love the way that people just ignore that game companies could take a stand and work to change this but they don't want to. For example, people upset about Fortnite don't like when you point out they're paying Epic twice as much money and all they've done is making a "statement" about how wrong they think it is.

Also gotta love how manipulated you all are. NL must have waited for today because they can't milk MH anymore.

I dont like this attitude. I really enjoy the idea of crossplay and think every game needs it nowadays.

Wow sony. Just wow. Ego much? So there saying it's for your own good because it's the best place to play!

@BigKing I think you should change your Internet provider because obviously it’s not a good one.

@1UP_MARIO
I still love The Sims 4, deep in my heart.
But for some reason, when the PS4 news got my nerves, i think it will gradually decrease my hype on PS4 version.
After i had deliberated quite long, i think i have some Win-Win solution. Here is my thought :

1. The Sims 4 => I can choose the Xbox1 version instead the PS4 version. I would rather give my DLC money to Microsoft than to Sony.

2. Portal Knights => Actually, i also have the Switch version, but i wouldn't mind get the XBOX1 version with 60 fps and more details. Well, an alternative version.

3. Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age => Basically FF XII International PS2 with HD Remake and BS Gigabyte size. I can choose the International version for my Japanese PS2 Slim or i can choose Standard FF XII USA PS2 version. If i lost the PS4 version, doesn't really matter for me.

4. FF X/X-2 => I can choose the International version on PS2 Japan or i can choose Standard USA version, despite i will lost the HD touch. But, the positive side, the Catnip on FF X-2 PS2 version is REALLY Useful than on HD Remake version (Do 9999 Damage when HP Critical). So.... PS2 version actually have the positive side.

5. Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 HD => Same as FF XII & FF X/X-2, i can choose Kingdom Hearts 1 or 2 USA PS2 version WITHOUT Final Mix (That's for me is not really interesting additional) or choose the Final Mix Japanese PS2 version.

6. World of Final Fantasy => I don't know how to say about this game. Pretty disappointing for me. The Chibi forms were pretty cute but like typical Tetsuya Nomura games, they're boring for some reasons. Until now, i still HAVEN'T touch World of Final Fantasy PS4 version. Not worthy game in my opinion due to lost my hype a lot since i got more Nintendo Switch games. If i lost World of Final Fantasy PS4 version, i can try to set my feeling to "Let Them Go".
But, i will play it again if World of Final Fantasy comes to Switch, the Right machine to play that game.

So, if i replace my PS4 with Xbox1, i will ONLY Have :
1. The Sims 4 ( 9 / 10) (My First Best games)
2. Portal Knights ( 9 / 10) (My Second Best games)
And the other Kid friendly Xbox1 games that i can choose.
Maybe i have to Sacrifice the "SquareEnix" games that i have on PS4 version, will Never able to see that games again, but i think the sacrifice will be paid off from the other version machine that i had deliberated above.

I think when the time is ready, i will Really Execute my PS4 & all the games i have. I did really Serious with my last promise, Sold my other THREE PS4 games (Earthlock, Overcooked, Yonder the Cloud Catcher Chronicles) and they were Sold completely yesterday and i felt relieved to get some money back. No regret at all.

@BigKing I've played tons of games of Splatoon 2 both for my channels, and just for fun, and it doesn't happen very often that players disconnect. In fact, there's some clothing I've been wanting to wear (because it looks cool) that helps if your team only has 3 players, but, it's so rare, that it's not worth equiping.

Something something please don't use profanity guys something something.

They shouldn't be worried about the best user experience for a 3rd party game. Let the developer worry about that

Possibly, but Keyboard + Mouse is the patrician way to play.

@Anti-Matter I’m sorry but that just sounds so dumb. Maybe it’s me.

You want to sell your PS4 and get a xbone so you can play sims 4 and portal knights which you already own on the PS4.
You must really hate Sony and only because they don’t do crossplay with your favourite game Fortnite

@1UP_MARIO
It wasn't about Cross Play.
It's about the Sony reputation nowadays.
Even before i suddenly bought PS4, before 15 February 2017, i still HATE PS4 with all my emotions, until i noticed FF XII HD on PS4, it was like a Giant Slap on my face.
Anyway, i still display neatly my remaining 6 PS4 games and hopefully, i changed my mind again and still let them stay BUT I will NOT Buy another PS4 games anymore. Just keep being Top 6 Forever. Pray the best for me.

Oh, btw. I Don't play Fortnite, because you know about my favorite games, right ?

@CCore28 not talking crap, just repeating what Sony said...

Oh good, it's been far too long since I was able to add anyone to the ignore list.

@BigKing Perhaps (probably, even, in a few cases) but not allowing crossplay with Xbone at all because it's not as good a place to play as Playstation does somewhat counter the idea of Sony providing a better experience since the 2 don't differ vastly in the Fornite stakes.

For Nintendo, there is perhaps some validity to the point that Fortnite isn't as good on Switch. Players themselves have asked for patches. I cant comment on Nintendo online because I don't play online.

The problem with the statement made is that "better" is subjective and anything subjective can be argued till the cows come home. Even objective facts are subjectively considered because that's the way humans work. "...better user experience" is a nebulous statement that is both meaningless and meaningful depending on who's listening. It doesn't really clarify anything on Sony's part, though, so it remains PR spin and that's something that should be approached with caution, however common it is across all large companies.

@BigKing Are we still talking about fortnite? Or splatoon?

Hate to say it, but with all the bugs and glitches in the Switch version, Yoshida might have a point about PS4 being the best place to play the game.

Every company has its own BS and anti-consumer stuff. Sony are just doing a particularly poor job of hiding theirs right now.

@Anti-Matter You hate Sony for being evil or whatever, but you'll give EA money for The Sims? Very strange.

Such a political answer. I love how he doesn't just come out and says, "We are greedy as hell."

They can't even get Fortnite running well on Switch, maybe NL should be looking more into that before giving all the anti matters in here another reason to spout off their twisted logic in 30+ nonsense comments.

@BigKing Oh, I see that you can only discuss your points insulting people. That shows what kind of person you are.

Just played for the first time with a friend on my Switch/his XBox One. So for us...THAT was the best way to play...since, you know, those are the systems we have. It's deep I know, but does that make sense, Sony?

Wow, arrogant much?

Well to be fair... Fortnite i heard is really bad on the Switch after the last update.

But overall Sony's statement is just wrong, considering even high end laptops play Fortnight better than PS4.

And Xbox one X too to be fair... Looks better especially on 4k, much more smoother online and lets be real now... Microsoft has never had slower servers than Sony.

In fact between the Xbox one X and PC... I'd say this statement is the exact opposite of what he actually said. Sony best not allow cross play because it will show how much better the other platforms (except the Switch) are at running Fortnite.

First time I’ve used the Ignore button. I guess there’s a first time for everything.

What he said: "PlayStation is the best place to play."

What he meant: "PlayStation is the best place to play for Sony's bottom-line."

@CCore28 Talking crap about Sony should be EVERYONE's hobby when they say stuff like this, regardless of your platform of choice.

As for which gaming system is "superior" (with the understanding that's a subjective term), it's hard to make an argument against PC. It has the most powerful and diverse hardware, anything from top-of-the-line towers to portable notebooks; the most supported input devices, including many popular console controllers; and it has the largest library with the most exclusives and literally decades of backwards compatibility. No other system can even come close.

Having said all that, the Switch is probably my all-time favorite gaming system.

Someone should send a twitter to Sony quoteing this statement and followed by "the master race says hi"

😂😂😂

It's been quite some time, but LOL Sony is back.
(I only recall that around the PS3 launch, Sony had enough bad quotes to make a thread on one forum I was visiting )

@BenAV Oh dang! I wish I had known that all along, thanks for letting me know. That makes it sound a lot more viable than I had imagined.

@maruse Lol, now you're crying after you tried to be slick and edgy with the 'I think you should change your Internet provider because obviously it’s not a good one.'

@FlashBoomerang I am educating the uninformed

@BigKing Of course i have players disconnecting during a match but isn't that on them? I mean my Wifi is not THAT good and i really rarely have connectivity issues. And funnily enough i had a lot more problems in splatoon for the wii u.

@maruse The ignore list is a great thing. I don't use it much, but there's always one manbaby who's just determined to earn a spot on the list. When it cecomes clear that a person is only here to virtually defecate on people, whoosh they go.

@BigKing have you played the online service? I didnt know it was out

Okay. So if PlayStation is the best place to play, why not have people from the "inferior" platforms move their accounts to PlayStation?

@RainbowGazelle
Because Only The Sims series that i really LOVE from EA (i mean created by Maxis).

@RedMageLanakyn
Whatever you said...
Whatever you said...

Don't really care too much about cross-play TBH, as there are plenty of people playing Fortnite at once on any one platform.

But Sony's refusal to allow for cross progression is BS.

I mean, it is ok if they don't want to allow crossplay, but there's no excuse in blocking every account so it can't be used in other system. If someone wants to play Fortnite at home on the PS4 and then go out and play it on the Switch with the same account, he/she should be able to.

People are idiots. I’m divorcing the human race.

😆😆😆

Good one! 😆

@Frendo i doubt they could sue them when sony has the rights to do so, console makers have very powerful terms and agreements and can remove games from consoles and lock consoles and wont get in trouble as long as you agreed to the terms.

Terrible reasoning and quite honestly misleading. It's quite sad to see people defend such an anti-consumer practice just because it's Sony. Sometimes Sony isn't the company that does everything ethically right and is immune to criticism.

and this right here is the reason i play it on my switch.... not only can i play with mobile but xbox one and pc gamers too...oh and i only have to buy the battle pass once and i can use it on all those unlike the ps4 where im stuck with only using it on the ps4

@PanurgeJr

Ha ha ha. Hell about 2 comments in & there are already some on the board.

LOL okay Sony.

Give me yet another reason to either physically throw my PS4 at something and shatter it or essentially sell it away to some poor, unsuspecting soul. Half your games suck anyways, other than that upcoming Spyro game, but I'd rather wait to have that arrive on the Switch than to waste undeserved money on your products.

Keep being arrogant and egotistical. That's how you're losing people to better, far superior platforms! The more people you drive away to those platforms, the better, and you'll languish, just like when you keep churning out garbage superhero films.

In fact, you just guaranteed that Venom will be the LAST movie done by you twits that I'll ever watch. After that? I hope you fade into exponential irrelevancy. Because that's the path you chose, and you deserve to suffer GREATLY for your hubris, arrogance and egotistical shenanigans.

Before you folks on this site comment on this: I'm being rather generous and PG. I could be saying a LOT worse than this towards Sony. I definitely am saying WAY worse than this in my own mind.

@Ganondorf_

What's funny about that is that it seems that sony was going to do the EXACT same thing as far as the drm thing goes, but saw how it backfired with MS & did an about face. One of the few times that they didn't stick with copying the competition. 😜

@Frendo

Oh no, there's no doubt about it. The Xbox1X ABSOLUTELY outclasses the ps4 & it's "pro" version, easily. They weren't bluffing when they came with the 1X.

@subpopz

Oh, well don't be surprised if next gen they reverse course & you get to watch all their fanboys & zealots that are now defending this garbage & constantly spreading 'en sony running up to & falling all over themselves to jump on the late bandwagon. Eagerly ready to defend & digest the next load of crap that they're dusting with sugar to get them to swallow.

That’s funny. I would say PC/Switch/XBONE are the best way to play since they have an open community which is ideal for this type of game.

Hey, that’s interesting, I just gave a perfect reason of why PS4 is the WORST way to play Fortnite while Sony’s CEO couldn’t actually give any reason of why PS4’s dictatorship is supposedly the “best way to play”. If he truly believed that it should have been incredibly easy to give a reason, right?

cough cough

Little arrogant statement

It almost sound that Sony is afraid of the competitions.
Nintendo and Microsoft have no problem with it?
and for me the best way to play is always PC and Nintendo. Second is or Xbox or PS but as it sounds now i call them pis station

If Playstation is truly the best, then why not let them do crossplay? It's not like crossplaying with other systems will downgrade their version of Fortnite, right?

Yeah, if you thought that Sony shot themselves in the foot back in June when they initially refused cross-platform gameplay, here, they blew their entire leg off.

While I myself own ever Sony home console since the PS2, I REALLY hope that Sony comes in dead last come the next console generation. Maybe then they'll get a taste of what it's like to be ridiculed like Nintendo was during the Wii U era.

Hey, I am a Nintendo fanboy, so what! Is that a problem? Anyway, Sony always had an ego, that's why Nintendo didn't want to do business. Sony should have been so happy, the n64 wasn't a disc based drive, then square Enix, Namco and other companies would still develop games for them.

Wow, talk about pompous lol

@Donutman For me the PS4 only has a single exclusive that I have really loved this gen, and that is GT Sport. Everything else seems to be these cinematic style of games which totally aren't for me.

@Jeronan I could honestly see Sony being arrogant enough to pull the infamous "five hundred and ninety nine US dollars" move they did with the PS3 when they were riding off the success of the PS2 with the PS5.

It seems like they have a bad habit of getting really stupidly arrogant about their past success whenever they have a successful console before they release a new one.

Wow, what a snob.

Don’t feed the trolls (@CCore28, @BigKing). The bait is weak and puts Drumpfs to shame.

My kid used to play Fortnite on his PS4 until it launched on Switch. Then, he made a new Unreal account to play Fortnite on his Switch. When his non-Switch owning friends want to play, he now uses his Switch account on his PC instead of the PS4 account, which he might have actually used had the option been available. I'm sure he's not the only person to do so. Not sure how this behavior benefits Sony, but hey, keep up the good fight I guess?

When Sony revealed the PS4 they used the slogan 'the best place to play' and everybody cheered because they weren't like the oppressive Microsoft. 5 years on and they're still blurting it out.

The reality is that there was little difference between the PS4 or Xbox One, but Sony capitalised on Microsoft's poor launch and gained an unassailable lead. Now after the dust had settled it appears that Microsoft wasn't that oppressive after all and that Sony the self proclaimed people's champion is in fact the one that is now restricting players choice.

I never bought into Sony's Cool-Aid, I've heard too many 'emotion engine' and '4D graphics' hyperbole to know that they are a company that spouts senseless buzz words instead of anything of substance.

We did buy a PS4 though, but its rarely used except for the odd exclusive (Spiderman this month). We buy all multiplats on Xbox because the network is better and everything else on the Switch. So I've found PlayStation to be the place we've played the least. With more games getting PS4/Switch releases and the superior performance of the Xbox One X, I don't see that changing much now either.

"PlayStation is the best place to play?" says the company that killed every platforms it used to have but the PS4 then it will killed the PS4 and move on to the PS5. Then Sony will take the Final Fantasy VII remake as hostage from PS4 owners by making that game a PS5 exclusive instead making them abandon PS4 for PS5 just like they did the PS3 owners with Final Fantasy Versus XIII which became the disappointing Final Fantasy XV.

Oh, okay, I guess I'd better go trade in my Switch for a PS4, then. I mean, I haven't played Fortnite and probably never will, but if I ever DO then I'm obviously going to want the best experience.

It's a good thing I care not for any online shooters. It's even better that Kingdom Hearts will be wrapping up its story arc this generation. With it off the table and Sly Cooper/Gravity Rush nowhere in sight, they will have nothing that could possibly compel me to buy a PS5 when the time comes. I'm off the hook!

@kensredemption Bow down in the presence of greatness

@Lizuka Xbox has mostly action/shooter games with a very few adventure games. There isn't much on that system to begin with. Most are on PC as well. It's just such pitty. But I blame themself to releasing a hardware with hardly exclusives that really sells. Where are true RPG games coming from them? It's all 3rd party. They don't deliver. Sony somehow does deliver... and Nintendo has their own 1st party top games. Xbox will stay behind unless they change their gamelab

Triggered!

And here comes the Sony defense force, you'd think these people are getting paid the way they blindly defend Sony's arrogant decisions

"The best place to play" will soon end up being the worst place to play if Sony doesn't get it together with cross play. I can see this being reversed if enough developers refuse to release their games on Playstation.

@PanurgeJr I actually had to chuckle out loud reading your comment. In post #41, I replied to him stating that simply responding to someone and saying "You proved my point" does not make it so. In your case, I was wrong =)

It runs like crap on Switch - and nobody cares about cross play this generation - Move on.

@Agramonte Anybody who wants as large an online community as possible for the games they play cares about cross play. The people who don't care about cross play are the ones who are content in their fanboy bubble.

@PanurgeJr Anyone who cares about an "online community" would not play on Switcht regardless of crossplay. Hell, the top games to play online in the next 6 months are not even on Switch. So the "cross play community" is Zero.

Actually it is the other way around. Only people who think this matters are the ones that live in their fanboy bubble.

I'll be playing BF-V open beta that started today... FortNite "crossplay" on Switch will be the last thing on my mind. Just like everyone else on the Server.

Only manufacturer that desperately needs crossplay this generation is Nintendo.

@Agramonte Your ability to generalize based upon assuming everyone thinks like you is truly impressive. Also, truly insulting.

But I'd expect no less from a fanboy.

@CCore28 Still doesn't change the fact that Sony are short sighted with this decision. Luckily most of my friends play on XBOX, Switch or PC so it is a non issue in my circle.

I remember during E3 when Sony first said they didn't want cross play certain posters on this site said they were selling their PS4's and PS4 sales would drop, Sony is the Devil ect... Then the PS4 was the best selling console for June and had great numbers in July too. Yet here we are and the same posters are still claiming they are going sell their PS4's. Lol!

@JasmineDragon
I only have one person on ignore. That anti matter guy. He says some really dumb stuff regularly.....I mean really dumb stuff. The site is so much better without him around.

Translation: We want to make more money by trying to force players to buy all their microtransactions from their PS4 accounts instead of switching platforms to buy some of them. We expect those gains to surpass the losses from the new customers we're losing due to our unpopular policy as well as those who decide to bite the bullet and start a new account on a different platform anyway. Meanwhile, we are going to be as unlikably arrogant as possible about the decision, because we know that Microsoft will never be able to touch our popularity in the Eastern markets no matter how badly we lose to them in the West, while Nintendo is a mere nuisance that relies on underpowered gimmicks despite the facts that the Wii outsold the PS3, the Switch is becoming more popular than the PS4, and they've kicked our butts in the handheld market so badly that we've been forced to abandon it.

@BulbasaurusRex If Sony's not worried about Microsoft taking over Japan, they should be concerned about Nintendo. The little Switch that could is taking over top-games-sold lists, and the console sells double the PS4, Pro sales included.

Japan certainly isn't as big as the US, but it's about on par with Europe in terms of sales, so unless Sony adds a handheld attachment to the PS5, they may be in trouble there. Couple Nintendo's Switch getting more and more sales in the West, and the XBox fighting to grab their mainstream audience, then I do hope Sony's arrogance doesn't expand beyond crossplay.

@PanurgeJr The "fanboy" is the one believing people who have access to 99% of all online multiplayer games under the sun (and a 83/36 million base to play it with) - are actually daydreaming of "crossplay" with Switch owners.

Also wonder why people who play Splatoon 2 not crying about having "as large of an online community as possible"... Maybe because it has 7 million sales so they all having fun regardless?

Nop, you right - they all must be "fanboys"... good thing you do not have "an ability to generalize based upon assuming everyone thinks like you" 🤔

@Agramonte Whatever, dude. I've read enough of your comments through the months to know that if Nintendo denied cross play you'd be lining up for the next chance to criticize them. And I really wasn't calling everyone else a fanboy, just those people defending Sony's absurd position at a Nintendo fan site.

AKA you, if it's too difficult getting the subtext.

@Bliquid

Well, I guess we'll agree to disagree then PS4 was never really anything but a medium for receiving delicious hatemail to me. It has also always been extremely limited, and playing with anyone without a PS4 was immediately not a possibility. This also led to the downfall of many multiplayer games who still thrive on PC or other platforms, who could have been saved by crossplay.

That, and Sony fanboys are damn toxic. Not that Nintendo fanboys are any better, but at least they don't have the option to send hatemail hahaha

Crossplay isn't a PR stunt. Sony's business may be legitimate, but they're standing upright, pressing your skull towards their nether regions and slapping their wieners against your cheeks... while retaining a slogan called "for the players".

That's not legitimate. That's false advertising. The players want crossplay. Sony doesn't. Therefore they are not a platform "for the players". A platform "for the players" would be a platform that listens to player concerns and act accordingly. Like Microsoft's Xbox (backwards compatibility, crossplay, pc/xbox store support) and, well, PC because it's just superior and you can't really have concerns if your wallet is big enough.

It's not that Sony is bad, it's that they're behaving like spoiled kids. They're at the top and that apparently gives them the right to not care about their playerbase, and to lock away people's external third party accounts because they want to be dicks towards their competitors?

And you can say Microsoft and Nintendo would do the same, but the fact of the matter is, they wouldn't. Nintendo is 100% pro crossplay, and they actively seek out crossplay support. Microsoft is also pro crossplay, albeit they don't try to enforce it as much (pc masterrace you know)

Couldn't agree more with you on Fortnite though. That, and it's a garbage game imo.

I know you think the account locking is bs, and I'm not gonna call you out for that.
But it still does play into how Sony is behaving and that does impact the legitimacy of their business. At the moment, I would not say Sony is behaving like a legitimate business should at the top of the game.
A successful business? Yes, definitely.
This is the kind of iron grip that can secure longevity fairly easily... Provided they don't lose the favor of their customers, which they seem to be doing little by little. Legitimacy isn't about earning good money and not breaking the law. It's also about not selling out or going against the wishes of your consumers.

Sony has clearly shown that not only do they not give a dime about their consumers and their wishes, they're willing to go so far as to destroy their chances of playing one of the world's most popular games on ONE specific platform that happens to be their up-and-coming competitor for the top spot... Just to further their own selfish profits-based narrative.

Sony has no business whatsoever in limiting an external account from playing a game on another platform. That's just wrong. If a game was tied specifically to a PSN account, it would be legit.

Anything external, however, should be off limits, and if I were Epic's (which I'm sure they're thankful I'm not) CEO or at least had enough power within the company, I would have instantly pulled the game from Sony's platform faster than they could release a half-assed apology in written format to a random magazine.
Simply pulled it completely, and not putting it back on until the situation had changed. Fortnite has enough power to put pressure on Sony, so it'd be feasible.

But alas, I'm not part of their company, or able to put pressure on them to grow a spine, so that's out the window. They're all about the money, just like most others.

I'd say never say never, but I don't imagine that this dualpack will come to switch, especially with the same features really. There's interest enough that'd I'd imagine maybe a year from now, we'll see these ported over, especially with Castlevania being pushed for smash bros. Don't lose faith, weirder things have happened