
Ever since the very first sales figures for Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! were unveiled, things have looked pretty good for the latest entries to the series. We first heard that the games had sold 116,000 physical copies in the UK, then we were told that they had sold a whopping 661,240 copies in Japan in just three days, and things are only getting better and better.
We now have confirmation that the titles have generated 3 million sales worldwide since launch, with the games not even being a week old yet. It's an impressive figure all on its own, but things get even more impressive when you realise that this means Pokémon Let's Go has become the fastest-selling game on Switch in an opening week so far, beating the likes of Super Mario Odyssey and Zelda: Breath of the Wild.
The confirmation was shared by The Pokémon Company on Twitter:
As you'll no doubt be aware by now, the games have caused an awful lot of division among players and fans; the games have reviewed very nicely indeed among critics, and we're starting to see a much more positive outlook from players on social media now that the games are firmly in their hands, but the odd few are still causing trouble and attempting to smear the game's very existence. Sales figures speak louder than angry internet words, however, and things are definitely looking good for the new titles.
Have you treated yourself to a copy of either Let's Go, Pikachu! or Let's Go, Eevee! Are you patiently waiting for next year's game instead? Tell us below.
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Pika-ching haha, I like that!
Wow! This is amazing. You know they're doing something right when it outsells odyssey.
I think even I underestimated how ready fans were for a console core series game.
I'm completely new to the world of Pokemon but also someone who likes an engaging and challenging gaming experience. I have being completely absorbed by my first visit to Kanto and feel that Let's Go is a great way into this incredibly immersive world ahead of the launch of the first Gen 8 title next year.
As you'll no doubt be aware by now, the games have caused an awful lot of division among players and fans; the games have reviewed very nicely indeed among critics, and we're starting to see a much more positive outlook from players on social media now that the games are firmly in their hands, but the odd few are still causing trouble and attempting to smear the game's very existence. Sales figures speak louder than angry internet words, however, and things are definitely looking good for the new titles.
That's a powerful statement.
Well it's Pokemon, it prints Money. XD
I made a bet with my collegue which would sell the most copies. Pikachu or Eevee.
I know nothing of Pokémon and therefore bet on Pikachu. She is a complete Pokémon nerd and was certain Eevee was more popular. I believe that can only be the case with nerds. The common man next door only knows the yellow guy.
So... am I winning or losing this bet you think?
Trouble is some people don't want this to exist, at least in this form, so it definitely shouldn't exist just because lots of people do want it. Companies like Game Freak should get approval from the Council of Fans before they do anything in case it displeases the sacred elders and they have to release their true weapons, review bombs and angry comments. Buying these games isn't optional, even for people that don't like the look of it, so no wonder its sold well. If only the people who don't want it could just leave it and play something else until generation 8 arrives. If only that was an option.
Wow not even in 1 week and beat every other games .still it is not Black Friday,Christmas and holiday season.Pokemon power.
@TommyRabbit Pokémon go series game is aiming for everyone not only for haters.
Jeez, this isn't even the next "big" installment!
I am enjoying the games and I hope the let's go series continues. My only wish is for the catching system to be less arbitrary. If it's a green ring and I get an excellent throw with an ultra ball, it should stay in the damn ball
@Aneira : Anyone who bets on Eevee would be a fool. Pikachu will be the more popular instalment by a significant margin.
I chose Eevee purely because I tend to choose the less popular and/or the more serene between the two mascots (in the past, I chose Black, Black 2, X, AlphaSapphire, Moon, Ultra Moon).
I always buy both versions, but I choose a main version to play and complete first, and I tend to play the second version at some point in the future when I feel like revisiting the game without needing to wipe my save data.
I'm elated by its performance. Really enjoying the game as we speak.
That's great. Both hands are fantastic, we're really enjoying them. Excited to get these completed and look forward to next year's titles as well!
@Arcamenel,
Or we underestimated how well these games would appeal to the masses.
@TommyRabbit
That's good sarcasm! Kudos
Not just ka-ching but pika- ching
Pokemon prints paper
As Mario wil put it
“letsa go”
I did not buy the game. Still, those who go on a rant against "the haters" telling that people can't judge a game that they don't buy. Well...it's not because a game sells well that it is good. I just want you to see the other side of the argument. If an Ariana Grande album outsold a Pink Floyd album, it doesn't mean that it's better and that people should shut up about it. Pokemon always sell very well, it doesn't mean it's better than Mario Odyssey because it outsold it. I hope you guys understand my point and lay easy on "the haters should shut up because the game is popular" argument.
Something tells me this record will be broken again in a few weeks... And then again by this time next year.
Let's Go is not for me, but I understand why it exists and I'm happy it has found success.
Now imagine what a core game will do...
Yet another in the series of articles trying really hard to push the idea that sales equal quality. I guess we should all move to F2P games, because they have the biggest player bases and generate great profits.
This is good news for everyone, yet there will be people who try to minimize and excuse this news and continue to call these games a failure. They are definitely on the simple side, but anyone who picks up and plays one of them will see they are polished and charming and well made. They are absolutely quality titles and I hope they serve the purpose of getting a wider audience into the main series games.
haters still gonna hate.The truth would speak itself.
Anyways a record breaking sales number is a measurement of a good game.
But theory from haters can never be a measurement of a game
@Pdarklight A notion that "the truth" is decided by a majority vote is rather concerning, especially in modern world.
@Preposterous Sorry to destroy your dreams but success is decided by the majority. This is only a concerning matter for that internet whining population that is ... whining out of habbit.
@Preposterous would be more concerned if decided by haters’ theory.Only facts reflect truth.
If a game is not for you, trolling it is an unnecessary and spiteful action towards the developers and other players
@Preposterous No one is saying sales equals quality, but as the article points out, it reviewed well with critics and seems positively received by people on social media. The reason user scores are low on sites like metacritic is because there was an orchestrated review bomb carried out by users that was designed to manipulate and artificially bring down the score.
And come on, let's not act like high sales are meaningless too. Yes, bad things sell well sometimes, but the notion that a majority of the people who bought the fastest selling Switch game to date regret their decision is laughable.
@Preposterous
I upvoted because I do actually agree with the premise of what you're saying, even if you're wrong to use it here. Majority vote does indeed matter for luxury entertainment. If the majority likes the games, then the truth is most people like the games.
If you were talking about anything else I'd agree. But the shoe doesn't really fit when you're talking about entertainment.
Well done Ninty on cashing in on the PoGo crowd, I'm sure that was the plan all along.
@Pdarklight @Cosats I suppose my comment had a bit too complex message for your to comprehend. Feel free to ignore it.
@Alex78 "an orchestrated review bomb" - was there really an organised action, or was it a spontaneous move from the fans? Brushing off all criticism as trolling, done both by NL and you, is kind of cowardly. I'm not denying high sales (although, they weren't all that amazing in Japan), I just don't see them as confirmation of high quality, like some do.
I have both versions and the Pokeball Plus. The games are great and the new catching system isnt as bad as I was expecting it to be. I do, however, find the battles to be very easy so far. Overall, though, a very good purchase
@Preposterous I am very happy that you understood all of the other readers' comments about your thoughts. Now, that you found out what success means your knowledge has become richer. No need to thank us.
@JaxonH Entertainment should be completely separated from ideas such as "truth". It's also impossible to gauge quality by -initial- sales, however, they do represent how good was the marketing campaign and franchise's recognition. If anything, it's continued sales over time that bear any relation to a product's quality.
Haven’t got it yet think I’ll wait till Christmas see if anyone wants to buy me it. And the poke ball plus
@Whereswalby good for you glad you’re enjoying it as well!
@Preposterous is that not what the other side of the coin is doing? Why waste their time review bombing every website known to the internet? They are hoping that their “majority view” is the end all be all. They’re obviously looking for an outcome that’s beneficial to their views. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black there eh. I think 3 million sales in its first week speaks “truth” to the amount of people that have been waiting for this game and are thoroughly enjoying it. It’s quite obvious compared to the mindless rants on review sites, have you actually read what any of these drones are saying?
Would the haters like some custard with their humble pie?
@Draxa Actually, from what I've seen, people have left negative reviews over the weekend and moved on, but there's a nearly constant stream of 10/10 reviews limited to "it's fun" or "my first Pokemon game I've ever played, it's the best", so it has become a reverse review bombing at this point.
People wanted their voice to be heard, but with censorship and smear campaign by media outlets targeting them, it's a lost cause.
Oh goodie! More Tribalism to drown out finely-honed critique that would lead to better feedback for the dev team and a superior sequel/update for the fans!
Wonderful world we live in! /SARCASM
@MasterJay we have to keep in mind the switch base today is what? 3 times bigger than that time?? but yet, amazing numbers!!! eager to see how smash results!!!
@1UP_MARIO
Pokémon Letsa go, Mario!
Crossover confirmed?
'As you'll no doubt be aware by now, the games have caused an awful lot of division among players and fans; the games have reviewed very nicely indeed among critics, and we're starting to see a much more positive outlook from players on social media now that the games are firmly in their hands, but the odd few are still causing trouble and attempting to smear the game's very existence. Sales figures speak louder than angry internet words, however, and things are definitely looking good for the new titles.'
This is a VERY troubling statement on a number of levels. Trying to paint over legitimate criticism of the game because 'look at these numbers, the best numbers!' is VERY Trump-esque language and should be shunned at all levels. And saying some are 'causing trouble?' I guess these troublemakers are enemies of the people?!
People are allowed to like or dislike the game. This hive-mind 'EVERYONE MUST LIKE EVERYTHING' approach is disgusting and I'm tbh I honestly can't believe Nintendo Life would allow this. I used to think NL was quality gaming journalism but this REEKS of the same type of 'them vs us' journalism that places like BuzzFeed thrive on.
Sort it out because this is pathetic.
EDIT: Can we can an official comment from @damo on this please because the more I think about this the more troubling and insulting the tone of that paragraph is.
@Yoshinator Creatures’ games haven’t done nearly as well as Game Freak’s though so I wouldn’t say they always sell
According to Game Data Library, Pokémon Black and White sold over 2.6 million copies in Japan alone in its first week. Pokémon’s first venture into HD, by all means a significant change for the franchise, can barely muster above 650K, outdone by Splatoon 2, whom’s predecessor started on Nintendo’s worst selling home consoles. Only Pokémon Emerald sold worse and it was literally a third-version of the game, which always sell worse in comparison to the main games and remakes.
If this was practically any other franchise, people would hail these sales numbers as a massive achievement. However, this is Pokémon and who knows if three million worldwide is meeting The Pokémon Company’s expectations. It would be wise to compare worldwide sales of other mainline Pokémon game with Let’s Go! before bringing out the party hat and judging the game’s detractors for “not knowing a good thing when it comes to you”.
It’s fine if people dislike the game, but the vocal minority that is belittling people for purchasing and enjoying the game are really sad. Let people play and enjoy what they like.
@Preposterous I wouldn’t consider it censorship. If you have an exopential amount of people trying to post trash at the same time which validates concerns of possible related server/network issues with the actual site of course they are going to remove user reviews. I think someone who purchased the product even if it is their first game and says yeah it’s fun like you mentioned has more validity then someone who has never touched it and says it’s trash.
It's Pokemon, it was always gonna sell. But even I didn't quite expect it to sell this well. Goes to show that the haters are definitely a loud minority.
I have some gripes with the game, no doubt, but that hasn't stopped me from dumping 20 hours into it already! It's really whet my appetite for the real Pokemon game next year. This spin off is a lot of fun and a solid placeholder.
@Mogster.
It's all personal opinions fella,if you do not like the new Pokemon games then fair enough,but a lot of people are clearly enjoying these games.
This article is stating that a lot of the core minority did not think much of this new direction,but once the games have been released people are having fun with them for what they are.
And as for your numbers statement,I am pretty sure if these titles had bombed you and others would be seeing it as a vindication of your issues with these games since they were announced,but now they are selling well you guys always fall back on the old "just because it sells well does not mean it's any good" line.
I was very negative about the game when it was first revealed buy my mind has changed, I haven't played it yet but I got my copy and I think it will be a good experience even if it's different.
@FuzzyPickles94 And how many people already owned a DS at that point? The Switch is estimated to have sold around 20-23 million units to date. But when Black and White came out, the DS was WAY BEYOND that number, having been out a lot longer. This is 3 million sales in not quite a week, and the holiday season has only just started. I wont be at all surprised to hear that Let's Go sells 5+ million units by the end of 2018, which would give it nearly a 20% install rate practically overnight.
I'm laughing and dancing on the graves of the online trolls! Once again, you've been proven wrong!
@FuzzyPickles94,
Not a very fair comparison as Black and white had a lot more consoles out there to sell too,this is a good start and attach rate imo.
@DarthFoxMcCloud,
I always amuses me too as it happens so many times,core gamers like ourselves have not the slightest idea why the masses buy things.
@rex_rex Yeah, I was going to compare it to botw, but didn't for that reason, though that odyssey was a little fairer
Oh come on The Internet! Do I like this game or not? I need someone to give me an opinion quick because I can’t be trusted to decide for myself.
@BigBadJohn,
Get it bought fella,if you like it awesome,if not the evergreen nature on Nintendo titles means you can sell it on Amazon or Ebay for very little loss.
@Heavyarms55,
This game will sell tonnes over the busy holiday period.
@johnvboy oh I’ve already bought it and am currently playing with Mitie my Pikachu in his Pokeball prison. I just don’t know whether I should hate it because people who haven’t played it say it shouldn’t exist or love it because it’s sold loads. I need the internet to tell me because me enjoying it isn’t a reliable indicator.
For the “core” game in 2019, I do not want to see random encounters return, and it would be even better if they get rid of wild Pokémon battles. I enjoy this “watered down” experience a lot more
Too me all this reads is that people were just hungry for whatever Pokémon game came thier way. The true test will be how much thier game next year sales. If it does as well or less then we'll see what the fans want.
@Medic_alert @Heavyarms55 @johnvboy
I brought Black and White up because these games in a total of three days nearly beat the HD remake of the most popular generation in one country. That generation was responsible for doing away with the third version of the main game Pokémon fans came to expect, making it one of the more consequential games in the franchise’s history.
Not to mention that Pokémon Go! was likely The Pokémon Company’s biggest success since the first generation games and they have said themselves that they are looking to see where to take the franchise for the next twenty years with Let’s Go! If they meet or exceed sales expectations, it will significantly influence future generations of mainline Pokémon games seeing as they want this game to bring Pokémon Go! players to the Switch. If it doesn’t, they will likely reevaluate their approach towards bringing a mostly mobile gaming audience to their console efforts. This game might be a remake, but it will have influence as if it were a mainline entry.
To get an idea how well it’s doing in comparison to a main entry, finding data on worldwide sales on the first three days for X and Y would be a good start. From there, it would be wise to keep track of weekly Japanese and quarterly worldwide sales for Let’s Go! to see how well it’s holding up in comparison to other installments. Word of mouth will determine the drop-off rate for this game.
@Preposterous and when this game has continued sales, how will you find a way to call it lame? Just give it up, you lose this time. I love the main line Pokemon games, and I am enjoying this game. There is room for both. Relax.
It's saddening. However, I always knew it would be a success no matter what some people were trying to say. I just don't think that the success should actually be seen to mean anything about the validity of the Lets Go style and should be seen as more about the fact that it has 'Pokemon' stamped on it. Sadly, regardless of how true that may be, GameFreak is very likely to run with this Lets Go series now. sighs I can only hope it doesn't hurt the mainline series, but this is not my first rodeo. I've seen this happen before and it doesn't end well, or at least a series takes a long time to recover.
@johnvboy 'It's all personal opinions fella,if you do not like the new Pokemon games then fair enough,but a lot of people are clearly enjoying these games.'
Which is precisely why I said it's fine to like or dislike the game, and why it is truly asinine for this writer to try and dismiss legitimate criticism.
'And as for your numbers statement,I am pretty sure if these titles had bombed you and others would be seeing it as a vindication of your issues with these games since they were announced,but now they are selling well you guys always fall back on the old "just because it sells well does not mean it's any good" line'
Excuse me? Don't try and pretend you know me. I was planning on picking the game up closer to Christmas. I don't care how well it sells, but I do care about the brand of 'us vs them' journalism which the final paragraph of this article employs. As I said, it's disgusting, dismissive, and very Trump-esque in tone.
Hey, more people buying can mean more feedback for upcoming titles.
People that don’t want it don’t have to play it, but they also don’t need to be made a boogeyman. In the flip side, folks enjoying the game shouldn’t be denigrated as sheep destroying a franchise.
Believe it or not, sales of this game helps future Pokémon games on Switch.
@Kalmaro,
I think the mainline game will sell even better,the whole reason behind the let's go games was to ease the more casual Switch owners to the Pokemon games mechanics.
@Mogster,
I hope you enjoy the game fella,but you must admit all the hate for these titles from the core has been a little over the top.
Sorry for tarring you with the same brush as other posters on here,as you said I don't know you personally,and as I said before enjoy the game when you buy it.
I don't care about Pokemon, yet I'm glad to hear this news, as it's proof that those toxic "fans" online, the kind that for instance tried to review bomb the game, don't represent the majority, they're just more vocal (and stupid).
Nice and i bet Smash will do similar numbers if not better.
@Mogster I have to say that I see nothing wrong with the statement in the article as it is just the truth.
A vocal minority has been trashing the games since day one and very angry with anyone that said anything to praise it. When the reviews started and were almost (if not all) to praise it again (for what it is and not for what some people would like it to be) and people that Really played the game enjoying it, this crowd decided to do the most ridiculous thing ever on trying to review bomb a game that they did not even thought about playing in the first place...
Well i am not a hater for Pokemon itself tho i understand the negative reaction and i am still in facepalm mode because of Mew paywall and the Youtube videos showing Eevee facerolling through the elite 4. I dont want the game to sell bad or anything. Its good in a way, the money can be spent on improving the future games, adding free content such as new islands for this game or new pokemon and so on. Hopefully that will happen.
As for me, i wont buy a game which got less content than a GBA (so i heard, i heard theres only 153 pokemon and theres no sevii islands but i may be wrong) remake and a faceroll playstyle, but well, if others enjoy it, i cant blame them at all.
I just personally dont want to spend so much money on a weaker remake, i dont look at sales numbers as a way to say that the game is good or crap, its like saying a mainstream boring rap or pop artist who can barely sings who sells billions of albums is better than Michael Jackson.
Btw, if you want to know the reason why i do care about the "vocal minority" its because ive spent TONS and i mean TONS of money on games i regret buying, because i listened more to the "mature majority" than the "immature minority" just to end up agreeing with the immature ones. I dont trust anyone anymore.
I'm happy that people are enjoying it, but I hope they keep the Pokemon Go mechanics out of the main series.
@Hughesy
I can respect your wishes as I'm sure you're one of the "core players" but I would advise playing this game before asserting you want the catching mechanics to not play a part in future games, because the catching mechanics are actually really good, and from what I understand of GO, not the same. Same premise but more complex and more depth and more fun. I enjoyed the catching mechanics so much I would actually like to see them permanently adopted into the main series going forward.
Before you revolt against what I just said though, I'm not against the idea of keeping wild battles also. But I think it would be great if, once you've weakened the Pokémon, you then proceed to try to catch them via Let's Go gameplay mechanics. You get a circle that shrinks and expands, and you have to aim your throw inside the circle, but the smaller the circle the easier it is to miss, but the more likely it is you'll catch the Pokémon and they won't pop out of the Pokeball. Then the Pokémon are jumping up and down and running around which also has to be factored into your throw, then there's the color of the circle which indicates the likelihood you're going to make the catch, and then there's the berries you can throw at them which calm them down movement wise and can change the yellow circle to a green circle...
It's an incredibly fun system of gameplay mechanics. And contrary to popular belief among many in the core crowd, I'd say about 50% of your time in the game is actually spent battling. They put human trainers all over the map every 10 feet, so you're battling as many Pokémon as you're catching. I'm not saying that particular mechanic should be carried forward into future games, but it does work for this game.
But ya, i'm shocked at how much I enjoy the catching mechanics in this game and it has actually transformed Pokémon from something that could never hold my interest before into something that I am absolutely head over heels about now. Generally speaking, I think most people playing the game have taken fondly toward the catching mechanics as well. If they were to integrate those mechanics into a more normal Pokémon game, I think they would have the ultimate Pokémon formula.
@Fuz agreed 🤙
@JaxonH I have played the game. I bought it for my bros birthday and played it with him for a few hours and found the whole experience dull, just like I found Pokemon Go dull. They've also made the battles even easier, super effective moves just destroy the other Pokemon in one. I think my dad could play this and never lose a battle.
I'm happy people are enjoying it, but if this is what Pokemon games are going to become then I won't be playing them anymore. I've never understood the argument that it was made for causal gamers so they understand what to do. I was 7 years old when Pokemon Red came out and had no problem understanding it.
Customers used Pay Day!
TPC employees used Celebrate and Happy Hour in response!
This is my first and last pokemon console game. I am having fun with it. Good game for 15-30min gaming session before bed.
But it nothing special, and therefore no need to continie the series.
"Sales figures speak louder than angry internet words"
Gonna keep that in mind next time someone tries to bash CoD.
@Syrek24 And again, as I say to your ilk, sounds like an excuse to let awful things slide.
No, I didn't read your wall of text, I got the jist from the first few sentences and scrolling because both of our time is more valuable than that.
Glad to see the games doing well. I do hope let’s go becomes the new remake series . They did a lot with just Yellow as the base and added in a little current functionality as well. Let me know when let’s go Togepi comes out.
Great, keep letting Gamefreak get away with minimun effort.
I'm loving it, as is my 6 year old son. In my eyes this is better than the mainline games - and heaps better than Ultra Sun/Moon, the last one I played.
The game actually requires skill now - not just strategy - if anything I'm finding this harder than Ultra Moon, which was blindingly boring and easy beyond belief.
As I've stated previously the only downside is this being a remake - so I know what is coming.
@Benexcelsior You seem upset.
@FuzzyPickles94 And Pokémon Black and White proceeded to be the lowest-selling new gen games worldwide despite having the greatest install base it launched to, surpassed by only Black and White 2.
You shouldn't omit this. The first week sales do not say everything.
@FuzzyPickles94 and my point was, you need to look at more factors than raw sales numbers to get the whole picture. 5 million games would be nuts for a Switch game right now, with 20 million Switch sold. But wouldn't be as impressive on the DS when there had been 80 million units sold.
@Anti-Guy You must've been unhappy with Ultra Sun/Moon sales then, a game with even less effort by Game Freak.
@big_bad_bob personally I'd like the option to weaken wild pokemon instead of just chucking ultra balls at a red ring hoping for the best
@Balta666 Agreed. NintendoLife is pointing out the truth. If that makes them "Trump-esque", then better to be that than to have the mentality of @Mogster
Launch sales for major Switch games based on my best estimates:
Pokemon Let's Go: ~3 million
Super Mario Odyssey: ~2 million
Splatoon 2: ~1.3 million
Mario Kart 8 DX: ~1.2 million
Zelda Breath of the Wild: ~1 million
Pokemon Let's Go will hold the record as the fastest-selling Switch game for a whopping 3 weeks before Smash Bros Ultimate overtakes it.
Pokemon Let's Go global launch sales: 3 million
> Japan: ~700,000
> Everywhere else: ~2.3 million
Pokemon X/Y global launch sales: 4 million
> Japan: ~ 2 million
> Everywhere else: ~2 million
Let's Go is lagging far behind X/Y in Japan, but it is actually outpacing X/Y in the west by a decent amount.
Wow, and these are just filler titles. Just imagine when the new Pokemon rpg comes out. It's gonna be an absolute juggernaut.
Haha now the haters are feeling the heat and they can't stand it. Maybe instead of the constant negativity, just move on and play /talk about something you enjoy?? There's nothing wrong with disliking this game, not buying it etc., but I've seen the same people jump in every article about this game pre-release and repeat the same lines and negativity over and over again. I just don't understand why it's so hard for so many gamers to not be so negative all the time. It's video games, it's a hobby for most people. Why not focus on what we like and ignore what you don't?
I don't like most of what Sony puts out these days, but you won't see me on Pushsquare spewing toxicity all over the place.
@Dog It's an exact retelling with 1 or 2 new mons and features for full prize, of course I didn't like that, even more after the real effort they put into the 5th gen with B&W2, but no "here you go the same game now give us the dosh, we know you will little plebs", and they did.
The people have spoken: nobody cares about what some pissed off "fans" have to say on the internet.
The main point is that the sales clearly vindicate Junichi Masuda's strategy of having a more accessible game. I therefore suspect this format will be used going forward.
Those who expect the 2019 game to be a return to form are going to be seriously disappointed. There is no way Gamefreak is going to attract loads of new players only to revert the format back to random wild battles. Not saying the main core games will be exactly like Let's Go, but I would be seriously surprised if they don't take heavy inspiration from them.
Personally, I think Let's Go is great, but the old core series is clearly not going to return in the same format as before.
@Dog ?
@JaxonH The problem with this comment, is that I see it as actually a powerfully ‘scary’ picture of the way that big movie studios (and now gaming companies) have seemed to operate. For example, if a franchise, let’s say Star Wars, has a big following, and they release a big budget movie but it’s not something the fans want specifically, it still makes huge numbers based on the fandom around the name and lore alone, but over time it loses popularity because the numbers were generated largely from the ‘name’ and not necessarily from the quality of the movie.. The studios think ‘it’s great’ because they made lots of sales, so the movie must have been good.. but in reality it’s just diluting their own brand. If Pokemon was just mediocre (and I’m not saying it is), the Pokemon branding was probably going to ensure lots of sales regardless. Just food for thought in how these companies percieve their results.
I'm personally really enjoying my time with the Eevee version... and yes, I've been around since gen 1. SHOCKING! Gamefreak tried something different and I'm okay with it!!! GASP
I hope they make "Let's Go Johto" in the future, because there is something very charming and refreshing about this game.
But seriously, I'm going to just assume most of the people bashing the games are over 20 years old. You're an adult getting salty about a Pokemon game, what are you actually doing with you life? You could just not buy it? But that's too difficult, I guess.
@FTL
I don't disagree, but I don't think that's the case here. I think they are taking necessary steps to ensure they cultivate a new generation of fans, precisely so they don't end up in a situation like you describe where fans are dwindling.
And it seems the vocal minority (and it is important to make that distinction, because Internet forums only represent a fart in the wind of the gamership at large) stubbornly insists no deviations from the norm be made, even in a game specifically geared towards drawing in new fans (it's in the name after all- GO). If fans had their way the series would become stagnant and slowly fade away as those fans get older and play games less and less, and no new fans take their place.
The fact the critical reception has been positive and fan reception has been positive, even among those who were skeptical, tells me the situation you describe is not applicable, but rather the opposite. I suspect the next entry could break records thanks to all the new fans brought in by this game combined with the already existing fan base.
The amazing thing is that - up until recently - pre-orders for Let's Go were fairly weak. Demand for this game didn't really pick up until around 2 weeks before its launch.
With these type of sales figures, I can't imagine how much Smash Bros Ultimate, a game that has had strong pre-sale trends from the very beginning, will sell at launch... A 5-6 million unit global launch figure is quite probable.
@JaxonH Yes I definetely agree that in this case, given they will be releasing a regular game next year means they have not lost sight of their core audience, which I’m sure will most definetely sell well. I am purely talking about the idea that ‘if it sells well we must have done the right thing’ attitude.
Overall, I think ‘Let’s Go’ will be a great game... and next years release probably more so.. I just don’t like the idea that sales would be primarily shaping what they think the audience wants. It obviously has to be a part of it, but should not ‘Necessarily’ discount the shortfalls mentioned by the (admittedly toxic) internet forums.
That said!
If every manufacturer, developer or designers came out with both a ‘casual style’ and also a separate ‘core audience’ version of their product as game freak will be doing, I would not be complaining
@Yoshi87
Total guesswork that, to be fair. My theory is they want to go to a yearly release rotating main series, Let’s Go, Mystery Dungeon and miscellaneous (Detective Pikachu, Pokken etc).
Total guesswork as well, mind you.
@Anti-Guy
It’s comments like this that have me chuckling at just how unpleasant elements of the fan base are. You heard it here folks, people who buy Let’s Go are ‘plebs’.
@electrolite77 Thanks for replying to my comment. Yes, absolutely this is speculation on my part - however, let's look at the rationale here.
Many people who don't like Let's Go seem to be suggesting that Junichi Masuda went off on his own tangent and did his own thing. This is simply not how Japanese companies work, which is largely on the basis of collective agreement and shared responsibility. My guess, albeit an educated one, is that Masuda had to pitch the Let's Go proposal to the Gamefreak/Pokemon Company board and they collectively approved the project.
Secondly, maybe Gamefreak will maintain a two tier game series as you suggest, with annual rotations of each series. Personally, I think that would be extremely confusing for the casual consumer. It would also be odd for them to effectively say 'Thanks for buying our casual game, now try new this new harder one with completely different mechanics'. Maybe that will work, but I doubt it.
I think it is more likely that, going forward, new entries in the series will be a hybrid of both sets of games - for example, they could have wild battles for the fans that want that, but put in an option so you can turn off the mechanic and use catching throwing if you want. That would please everyone and keep the casual fans on board. I think something like that is more likely.
Again, I have no concrete evidence for this - but if you want to understand how a Japanese company works you need to look at this from the perspective of their decision making process.
I also struggle to believe that they would want to maintain two separate product lines - again, look at what Junichi Masuda has been doing. They haven't been marking Let's Go as a game for 'casual fans' but a game 'for all fans'. It even says so on the box! My point being, they are clearly trying to unite the fan base, rather than going down the route of making products that cater to one or another.
Again, look at the messaging and the not so subtle hints.
@electrolite77
I don't think Mystery Dungeon and Detective Pikachu are part of that "yearly release" schedule for Pokemon, given that none of those games are traditional Pokemon RPGs developed by Gamefreak.
The yearly Pokemon releases will probably alternate between a brand new title (i.e. next year's Pokemon game), a remake (i.e. a Diamond/Pearl remake), an "enhanced version" (like Ultra Sun/Moon), and a Let's Go entry.
All other Pokemon spin-offs will be released at pretty much any random time.
BTW I'm a bit surprised that a Pokemon Mystery Dungeon entry or a Detective Pikachu port haven't been announced for the Switch yet, especially the latter since the movie is currently tracking to be huge hit come summer 2019.
@westman98 @Yoshi87
Interesting replies, thanks. I’m not that clued up on Pokemon so I really was guessing. Be interesting to see how they tie it all together and how the new games fit in. If they stay as simplistic as Let’s Go (disclaimer-I’m enjoying it greatly) I can see trouble ahead but with a ‘traditional’ game on the horizon that may not be an issue.
It's Pokemon, I'm not surprised. If you want a new Pokemon title and own a Switch, sold. If you play Go and want something to augment your gameplay and own a Switch, sold. I'm really enjoying the game. It's a constant battle if I should transfer my only Mewtwo in GO to Let's Go LOL. I know you get him later on. But that would be really fun to have Mewtwo early.
@electrolite77 Exactly, finally somebody who gets it.
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