So as it stands the steam deck has hardly sold more than the Nokia N Gage did.... Don't get me wrong, I still have and like my N Gage, but it didn't set the world alight sales wise.. And that's why the Switch 2 doesn't need to worry about the Steam Deck.
For the first year, they will need say perhaps 8 first party games. So that's a game every 6 or so weeks, but then one every 2 months should be more than enough.
One a month seems way to optimistic for my liking. With the extra power and time it takes to make Switch 2 games, if we get a game every 2 months, we will be lucky...
This expecting a game every month is madness...
Bulletstorm Switch Edition, just picked it up in the sale, it's reviewed well. Looking forward to seeing how it plays.. Along with some Donkey Kong Country Returns HD too..
@Edu23XWiiU Hehe, the main market.. It certainly sells a lot more than it ever has now on any Nintendo console. I really hope this continues with Switch 2.
@Anti-Matter I have Smurf Kart on Switch, picked it up cheaply and was quite impressed. Only issue is that it only has 12 courses but the online time trials add replay value to try and get higher ranks worldwide. It plays well, certainly worth picking up if you can get it relatively cheap. 8/10
@Lady_rosalina Hmm, I'll admit some of that doesn't sound ideal.. Enemies hitting you across the screen with no warning and slowed down gameplay.. I'll have to give it a go myself, I was quite looking forward to playing it, now, not quite so much..
Anything above £400 in the UK and it will struggle, I think £350 is the sweet spot. I hope it's £350 at launch but we will see. They will also no doubt bring a "Lite" version to the market within 2 years (sub £300) to pick up the more casual players.
@MirrorFate2 What, don't bother to play my copy of it... Well I was quite looking forward to giving it a go, I must say I guess you don't rate it very highly then.
@Lady_rosalina I still need to play my copy of Bayo 3. It reviewed well, I keep meaning too. It certainly seems time for a bit of a reboot. It will no doubt change regardless now, with a new director at the helm if we do get a fourth.. Hopefully we do get a fourth.
Seems like it maybe a while till we get a Bayonetta 4 at this rate.
I have a feeling a Bayonetta remaster pack of 1, 2 and 3 might be released for the Switch 2.
Although, knowing Nintendo they will be remastered and sold individually.
It was certainly a double punch to the Vita. I was tempted to get one the other week (A Vita) but with the Switch 2 on the Horizon and the small fact of the PS4 I picked up last year with now 40+ games I'm yet to play, I don't think I'll have the time.
@ScalenePowers I have Bakeru on physical pre-order too for Feb the 25th I think. Looking forward to that, Plucky Squire is a possibility too. Still plenty coming out as it stands.
@larryisaman It is... Switch 2 might halt the decline a bit but I can't see either Microsoft's or Sony's next systems having disc drives. So, it will be Nintendo alone with physical within the next 3/4 years..
@Yosti I certainly understand your take. I'm a Nintendo fan first and foremost. So getting all my games on one console is the most sensible move going forwards. I suppose where we differ is that I enjoy having different consoles, I'm more a collector at heart. Also, I wish Microsoft was more competitive to be more of an issue for Sony. Increased competition helps everyone up their game.
@MrGawain This, I own a Series S with Gamepass Ultimate as well as my Switch. I'm torn, as it's great news for Nintendo, I mean who doesn't want portable Halo/Gears/Forza. Yet, Microsoft at the same time seems to be quickly loosing any reason to have one of their consoles.. Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy my Series S. For the price it's a fantastic piece of kit, but if all the unique games come to both PS5 and Switch 2 going forwards it's all a bit bizarre... Microsofts new long term aim seems to have as many of their games on as many systems as possible... Financially, it makes sense, with games costs rising, it seems like a sensible move perhaps, however, it's alienating many of their hard-core userbase as a result. It's like they are a third party developer which happens to have their own machine too... 🤣
@PikminMarioKirby This exactly, price does matter. It needs to be a certain price to sell. It will be a harder sell then the original Switch this time. We could have a 3DS situation on our hands if it's priced too high. In the UK if it's over £400.00 at launch it will struggle after the initial early adaptors buy it. I think it needs to be at about £350.00 long term, then after a couple of years a Switch 2 lite will need to release at £230.00 to keep sales going.
As a game if you have never played it a 9, it's a must play. For me playing it for a third time, and for the price considering I got it for £42.00 instead of £50.00 retail, for me it's still an 8 this time around. It's still an fantastic game.
@1UP_MARIO Same here, third time for me too. It plays just as well as before, and considering it's been a good few years since I last played it, it still feels fresh to me. (Perhaps I just have a bad memory )
Playing it in HD with a new lick of paint and the easy mode which enables my nephew to play too makes it well worthwhile. We fitted a good 6-7 hours in at the weekend.
I don't like it to be fair, he seems to have lost his charm... Maybe I just don't like change, but it's a step backwards in my view. I can see why they have done it because of the film, but I'm not a fan.
Switch 2 is more of the same (which is great for me) with a graphical upgrade, refinements and perhaps a couple of small additions.
They are playing it safe, I can't blame them from coming off the back of the Switch's success.
Calling it Switch 2 avoids the pitfalls the Wii U had, making everyone clear it's the next gen system and not a add on. Third party support should be strong too from the start also.
It will sell well in my opinion, but nowhere near the the level of the original Switch's sales.
Others have played catch-up and are taking small chunks of the market for themselves, Lenovo, Steam and Sony obviously too.
Luckily they have very strong, unique and high selling IP to fall back on.
If they can launch with a Mario Kart within the launch window period this should get them off to a good start.
Comparing it to the 3DS seems very fitting, I think it will succeed but to a lesser degree..
65 - 70 million is my estimate for it's lifetime sales along with a five year lifespan compared to the Switch's 8.
Exciting times lie ahead, I'm intrigued to watch and see how Nintendo navigate the next few years and am happy to come along for the ride...
@Ogbert This exactly, they are only upset with the third party partners for showing it off at CES, that was probably a step too far for them. Everything else they are probably quite pleased with, they have had free advertising hype for months, years to a degree really.
The exposure and free articles they have had are literally the sort of exposure that money can't buy...
We will all find out shortly anyway, I'm not sure what the fuss is. Nintendo will announce it before March the 31st as they have stated this in their financials, so the clock is clicking regardless.
@betterman Me too, triple dipping so I can complete it again myself and use the added benefit of the easier difficulty for my young nephew to try it out as he has a Switch too. For me it will be worth it, and for those on the fence, with it being a Nintendo first party title it will hold it's value, so it's well worth trying out in my opinion, even if you sell it later on.
It's good to see them both on board from the start. No doubt after the success of the Switch initial Third Party support will be strong. I expect a good 12 -15 titles for launch with a strong launch window.
Played and completed it on my Wii and 3DS. However, I will be picking it up for yet a third time to complete again myself and to play with my nephew, too. It's certainly worth it for that... 😃
I had just been thinking about this the other week, hoping to hear some news. I really enjoyed the first remaster on Switch, so will certainly be picking this up. 😊
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Re: Japanese Charts: Donkey Kong Can't Keep Up With Like A Dragon's Ship-Shape Debut
@Anti-Matter They certainly do have interest, it's about a third of the Switch's.
Re: Japanese Charts: Donkey Kong Can't Keep Up With Like A Dragon's Ship-Shape Debut
@Anti-Matter Yes, it's sold about a third of what the Switch has sold this week.. That's a better ratio than normal for the PS5.
Re: Nintendo Download: 27th February (North America)
Glover - Although I would like a physical copy... The soundtrack to the game is amazing, controls unique, tough but fair..
It's a fantastic game...
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Doesn't Need To Worry About Steam Deck Sales
So as it stands the steam deck has hardly sold more than the Nokia N Gage did....
Don't get me wrong, I still have and like my N Gage, but it didn't set the world alight sales wise..
And that's why the Switch 2 doesn't need to worry about the Steam Deck.
Re: Talking Point: Can Nintendo Keep Up The One-Game-A-Month Release Pace On Switch 2?
For the first year, they will need say perhaps 8 first party games. So that's a game every 6 or so weeks, but then one every 2 months should be more than enough.
One a month seems way to optimistic for my liking. With the extra power and time it takes to make Switch 2 games, if we get a game every 2 months, we will be lucky...
This expecting a game every month is madness...
Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Tops Switch Charts In Opening Month (US)
@Ranchman69 It's the best Sonic game in years..
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (22nd February)
Bulletstorm Switch Edition, just picked it up in the sale, it's reviewed well. Looking forward to seeing how it plays..
Along with some Donkey Kong Country Returns HD too..
Re: UK Charts: Civilization VII Starts Strong, Switch Version Outsells PC And Xbox
@Edu23XWiiU Hehe, the main market.. It certainly sells a lot more than it ever has now on any Nintendo console. I really hope this continues with Switch 2.
Re: UK Charts: Civilization VII Starts Strong, Switch Version Outsells PC And Xbox
@ozwally Yes, it justifies the work. It's good to see third party support selling so well at the end of the Switch's life too.
Re: UK Charts: Civilization VII Starts Strong, Switch Version Outsells PC And Xbox
EA Sports FC 25 selling best on Switch too, and Hogwarts Legacy by a comfortable margin.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (15th February)
The Turok 3 remaster from Nightdive... I've just completed it 😄
Re: Japanese Charts: Donkey Kong Starts To Slip As Mario Party Rolls Back Into Pole Position
@Axecon It is amazing it's still keeping above 40k.. A true testament to the unrelenting longevity of the Switch, especially in Japan.
Re: Cult N64 Platformer 'Glover' Finally Gets Switch Release Date
The soundtrack to this was amazing..
A fantastic game with great character, very unique and tough but fair controls..
Looking to get this..
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Adds Characters From "SEGA Universes"
@Anti-Matter I have Smurf Kart on Switch, picked it up cheaply and was quite impressed. Only issue is that it only has 12 courses but the online time trials add replay value to try and get higher ranks worldwide. It plays well, certainly worth picking up if you can get it relatively cheap. 8/10
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Trailer Released, Speeding Onto Switch "Soon"
@Serpenterror They won't scratch the Switch version, that's likely to be the best selling version..
Re: Hideki Kamiya Seemingly Confirms More Departures From PlatinumGames
@Lady_rosalina I do have a copy, I got it about a year ago, still sealed 🤣
I'll give it a go like you say.... 👍
Re: Hideki Kamiya Seemingly Confirms More Departures From PlatinumGames
@Lady_rosalina Hmm, I'll admit some of that doesn't sound ideal..
Enemies hitting you across the screen with no warning and slowed down gameplay..
I'll have to give it a go myself, I was quite looking forward to playing it, now, not quite so much..
Re: Don't Worry, Nintendo's Thinking About Affordability With Switch 2 Pricing
@myerscereal That would be a good launching price, let's hope so.
Re: Don't Worry, Nintendo's Thinking About Affordability With Switch 2 Pricing
Anything above £400 in the UK and it will struggle, I think £350 is the sweet spot.
I hope it's £350 at launch but we will see.
They will also no doubt bring a "Lite" version to the market within 2 years (sub £300) to pick up the more casual players.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Seemingly Confirms More Departures From PlatinumGames
@Yalloo I will play it. I enjoyed the madness of both the 1st and 2nd games too much, so I'll certainly get around to playing the third too.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Seemingly Confirms More Departures From PlatinumGames
@MirrorFate2 What, don't bother to play my copy of it... Well I was quite looking forward to giving it a go, I must say
I guess you don't rate it very highly then.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Seemingly Confirms More Departures From PlatinumGames
@Lady_rosalina I still need to play my copy of Bayo 3. It reviewed well, I keep meaning too.
It certainly seems time for a bit of a reboot. It will no doubt change regardless now, with a new director at the helm if we do get a fourth.. Hopefully we do get a fourth.
Re: Hideki Kamiya Seemingly Confirms More Departures From PlatinumGames
Seems like it maybe a while till we get a Bayonetta 4 at this rate.
I have a feeling a Bayonetta remaster pack of 1, 2 and 3 might be released for the Switch 2.
Although, knowing Nintendo they will be remastered and sold individually.
Re: PlayStation Vet Shuhei Yoshida Recalls Nintendo's Scariest Announcement
It was certainly a double punch to the Vita. I was tempted to get one the other week (A Vita) but with the Switch 2 on the Horizon and the small fact of the PS4 I picked up last year with now 40+ games I'm yet to play, I don't think I'll have the time.
Re: Opinion: With Forecasts Slashed (Again), Absolutely Everyone's Antsy For Switch 2 ASAP
@ScalenePowers I have Bakeru on physical pre-order too for Feb the 25th I think. Looking forward to that, Plucky Squire is a possibility too. Still plenty coming out as it stands.
Re: Super Mario Party Jamboree Is The Fastest-Selling Entry In Franchise History
Still not picked this up, certainly tempted....
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's N64 Library With Namco Classic 'Ridge Racer 64'
@Antraxx777 Yes, and how about Space Station Silicon Valley too while they are at it. 😃
Re: Kirby: Planet Robobot Returns As A Good Smile Re-Release
Article clearly titled for click bait... 🤣
Edit - It's been reworded 👍
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's N64 Library With Namco Classic 'Ridge Racer 64'
@DollyrotsFan1 That would be a perfect addition, as would Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's N64 Library With Namco Classic 'Ridge Racer 64'
It's a surprise great addition. I'll have a go on this tonight. Needed too, it's been a while since the last game.
Re: US Physical Game Spending Continued To Decline Last Year, Now Sits At Half 2021's Numbers
@larryisaman It is... Switch 2 might halt the decline a bit but I can't see either Microsoft's or Sony's next systems having disc drives. So, it will be Nintendo alone with physical within the next 3/4 years..
Re: UK Charts: Black Ops 6 Fends Off A Wave Of Nintendo Hits
Red Dead Redemption = Switch 61%, PS4 39%.
With numbers like that, I would be porting the second to the Switch 2 within the first six month of release to get the early adopter sales.
Re: UK Charts: Black Ops 6 Fends Off A Wave Of Nintendo Hits
Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy = Switch 89%, PS4 10%, Xbox 1%.... Crash at 89% on Switch is fantastic...
Re: Xbox Is "Really Looking Forward" To Supporting Switch 2
@Yosti I certainly understand your take. I'm a Nintendo fan first and foremost. So getting all my games on one console is the most sensible move going forwards.
I suppose where we differ is that I enjoy having different consoles, I'm more a collector at heart.
Also, I wish Microsoft was more competitive to be more of an issue for Sony. Increased competition helps everyone up their game.
Re: Xbox Is "Really Looking Forward" To Supporting Switch 2
@MrGawain This, I own a Series S with Gamepass Ultimate as well as my Switch. I'm torn, as it's great news for Nintendo, I mean who doesn't want portable Halo/Gears/Forza. Yet, Microsoft at the same time seems to be quickly loosing any reason to have one of their consoles..
Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy my Series S. For the price it's a fantastic piece of kit, but if all the unique games come to both PS5 and Switch 2 going forwards it's all a bit bizarre...
Microsofts new long term aim seems to have as many of their games on as many systems as possible...
Financially, it makes sense, with games costs rising, it seems like a sensible move perhaps, however, it's alienating many of their hard-core userbase as a result. It's like they are a third party developer which happens to have their own machine too... 🤣
Re: Nacon Expects Switch 2 To Launch In The First Half Of Next Fiscal Year
Like a few others the build up events seem to end at May's end. So an early June release seems likely to me.
Re: Random: Donkey Kong Country's Artist Reacts To Nintendo's Redesign
Call me old fashioned but I still prefer the original. Also his comment on change, often it is good, but that's certainly not always the case 😂
Re: Analyst States That Switch 2's Price Won't "Really Matter" For Early Adopters
@PikminMarioKirby This exactly, price does matter. It needs to be a certain price to sell. It will be a harder sell then the original Switch this time. We could have a 3DS situation on our hands if it's priced too high. In the UK if it's over £400.00 at launch it will struggle after the initial early adaptors buy it. I think it needs to be at about £350.00 long term, then after a couple of years a Switch 2 lite will need to release at £230.00 to keep sales going.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Donkey Kong Country Returns HD?
As a game if you have never played it a 9, it's a must play.
For me playing it for a third time, and for the price considering I got it for £42.00 instead of £50.00 retail, for me it's still an 8 this time around. It's still an fantastic game.
Re: UK Charts: Donkey Kong Barrels Past The Competition To Claim Gold
@AmplifyMJ Indeed it is. It's still a fantastic game. Gameplay is top notch...
Re: UK Charts: Donkey Kong Barrels Past The Competition To Claim Gold
@AmplifyMJ Very strong physical FC25 Switch sales. More than both PS5 and PS4 combined by quite a bit.
Re: UK Charts: Donkey Kong Barrels Past The Competition To Claim Gold
@1UP_MARIO Same here, third time for me too. It plays just as well as before, and considering it's been a good few years since I last played it, it still feels fresh to me. (Perhaps I just have a bad memory )
Playing it in HD with a new lick of paint and the easy mode which enables my nephew to play too makes it well worthwhile. We fitted a good 6-7 hours in at the weekend.
Re: Poll: What Do You Think Of Donkey Kong's Redesign In Mario Kart 9?
I don't like it to be fair, he seems to have lost his charm...
Maybe I just don't like change, but it's a step backwards in my view.
I can see why they have done it because of the film, but I'm not a fan.
Re: Japanese Charts: Freedom Wars Remastered Makes Its Top Ten Debut
@Erigen It will be interesting to see the impact. I expect a decline from next week onwards for sure, but by how much will be interesting to see.
Re: Reaction: Nintendo Pins Hopes On Familiar Fun With Switch 2
Switch 2 is more of the same (which is great for me) with a graphical upgrade, refinements and perhaps a couple of small additions.
They are playing it safe, I can't blame them from coming off the back of the Switch's success.
Calling it Switch 2 avoids the pitfalls the Wii U had, making everyone clear it's the next gen system and not a add on. Third party support should be strong too from the start also.
It will sell well in my opinion, but nowhere near the the level of the original Switch's sales.
Others have played catch-up and are taking small chunks of the market for themselves, Lenovo, Steam and Sony obviously too.
Luckily they have very strong, unique and high selling IP to fall back on.
If they can launch with a Mario Kart within the launch window period this should get them off to a good start.
Comparing it to the 3DS seems very fitting, I think it will succeed but to a lesser degree..
65 - 70 million is my estimate for it's lifetime sales along with a five year lifespan compared to the Switch's 8.
Exciting times lie ahead, I'm intrigued to watch and see how Nintendo navigate the next few years and am happy to come along for the ride...
Re: Nintendo Is "Very Upset" About The Switch 2 Leaks, It's Claimed
@Ogbert This exactly, they are only upset with the third party partners for showing it off at CES, that was probably a step too far for them.
Everything else they are probably quite pleased with, they have had free advertising hype for months, years to a degree really.
The exposure and free articles they have had are literally the sort of exposure that money can't buy...
We will all find out shortly anyway, I'm not sure what the fuss is. Nintendo will announce it before March the 31st as they have stated this in their financials, so the clock is clicking regardless.
We will find out soon enough
Re: Review: Donkey Kong Country Returns HD (Switch) - Aping A Retro Classic
@betterman Me too, triple dipping so I can complete it again myself and use the added benefit of the easier difficulty for my young nephew to try it out as he has a Switch too.
For me it will be worth it, and for those on the fence, with it being a Nintendo first party title it will hold it's value, so it's well worth trying out in my opinion, even if you sell it later on.
Re: Rumour: Konami And Square Enix Expected To Bolster 'Switch 2' Software Library With Major IP
It's good to see them both on board from the start.
No doubt after the success of the Switch initial Third Party support will be strong.
I expect a good 12 -15 titles for launch with a strong launch window.
Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Estimated File Size Update
Played and completed it on my Wii and 3DS. However, I will be picking it up for yet a third time to complete again myself and to play with my nephew, too. It's certainly worth it for that... 😃
Re: House Of The Dead 2: Remake Blasts Onto Switch This Spring
I had just been thinking about this the other week, hoping to hear some news. I really enjoyed the first remaster on Switch, so will certainly be picking this up. 😊