@LotusFlowers I think it's fair to say that they are making this for everyone. But to your point, they're going to be considering people that have never played it. So, we shouldn't expect it to just give all us veterans of the game exactly what we want in this redo. Still, considering that they are acknowledging this is the game "reborn", I think that tells us that it is being made with awareness of what came before. Otherwise, they could have just said, "We have a new Zelda game coming out: Ocarina of Time" and left it at that.
@Suketoudara @Yomerodes Ugh, you guys sure schooled me. Haha. Yes, we do have some pretty good stuff. And most of those companies are also quite keen to re-release their games in collections and what not. So, yay us!
@HammerKirby Right, why would they break that news?
Also, it's cool that the question was asked, but why would we think that might happen? The only 3rd-party games we've seen on Nintendo Classics are from more-or-less defunct developers or ones that are basically 2nd-party teams for Nintendo. Am I wrong?
@NerdyPaul You make some interesting and valid points. I personally can't see how demos wouldn't largely help game sales. They must create more new fans than they do lose potential ones. I know I've been disappointed by a few and negatively changed my mind about the games, but there are plenty others that have made me increase my wish list.
Yeah, this is cool. I completed a few Classics challenges last night. It's a different format than I was expecting for this. A bit odd that you dive into menus, yet everything seemed to work very well. It moves smoothly, you jump right in, and when you complete the objective, it promptly tells you that it's complete and takes you back to the platform. I really like how they are utilizing so many different DK games, too.
I don't have Bananza (yet), so I'll have to see what those are like. It's sounds like they operate differently.
I do feel like their intention is to transition to perhaps a different series/franchise once this one's time limit expires. Which is cool. The time limits are kind of a bummer, but I guess it is what it is. Hopefully there is enough time for me to complete everything, should I buy the game soon.
One question I have about this is what becomes of these cards. Do we keep them in a digital library with our accounts, ready to be shown off? Are they just goal markers during this limited-time event? If that's the case, a checklist would provide the same utility. I wouldn't ultimately mind if these are just temporary bonus distractions to enjoy the games in specific ways. That being said, the challenges I've seen so far are just to complete levels or boss fights, but they're things one would do when playing the game anyway. Also, these challenges don't count as actual progress in the games. They're just singular experiences for the purpose of the challenges. I would prefer that we get to exhibit these tokens as a history of our achievements, because that always is part of the fun. Seeing how far you've come and/or seeing how far you have to go.
Perhaps related, Nintendo also had us collect those digital cards for Galaxy Movie through Nintendo Today. I have all of them. I think they're still there, but I'm not sure if that movie portal will remain in perpetuity. Those cards have more to them though, with catalog numbers and descriptive text. So, who knows.
I'm very excited to see them trying things like this. I hope they commit to it and remain flexible enough to adjust things or even change their approach. They have appeared to manage the profile icons in such a way, at least a little, so I'll remain optimistic.
@Stormcloudlive Yes, I sympathize with your feelings. And I have stacks of games physically and digitally, some of which I haven't even tried yet. It's tough to resist some of these things.
@Ravenmaster Same here. If there was any game that was no question, it would probably be this one for me. Heck, I'll probably preorder it, and I never do that anymore. I feel like Majora seems less likely, but that would be really cool. I'm sure a lot of sales and strong reception for this couldn't hurt.
I was thinking, wouldn't it be amazing if they gave us a few tracks for this game on Nintendo Music? Like they did with Star Fox. And then I also wondered, will we get the rest of the Star Fox tracks when it releases? Or will it take months? I still don't understand the delay for these; I can't understand the problem with allowing people to listen to music at the time of release. I don't imagine they sell soundtracks for most of the games. Aside from the time and work it must take to get these adapted for the app, I don't know what the deal is. Still, the music we heard sounds incredible, and I would love to hear more. They probably will sell a soundtrack to this one though, so we probably will have to wait.
@Scarmucci I've had every Nintendo console and handheld since the SNES, except for Virtual Boy. I wasn't alive for the earlier stuff and didn't reach back for it. I had an original Xbox and a 360, a Dream astronaut, Steam. But Nintendo is my main device, always. I have lived through and endured the many ups and downs of Nintendo. I have also lived through and endured the endless mocking and criticism of Nintendo games and their fans. It even now comes "from inside the house." Nintendo knows what it's big sellers are. It also definitely knows what people are asking for. And one of the things they were asking for was more 3rd-party games. We are getting that. This reminds me of people calling for Zelda to break free from its template and mix it up. Then, we get 2 games - certainly 2 of the best games ever made, by most accounts - and everyone goes, "Why can't we get back to Zelda's roots?" There is always something to complain about. If Nintendo was able to give us a big new Mario or Zelda game or whatever else everyone THINKS they want, they would. What possible reason could they have for sitting on them or holding back? To keep the fair weather fans waiting, knowing that they'll finish the games in a month and then demand more? Maybe. Or maybe they're trying to expand their repertoire and explore other franchises, also something many people ask for. Maybe these games just aren't ready. Maybe they're trying really hard to find the right spark to make these games reach the massive bar they have set for themselves. Maybe they take a lot longer nowadays. Maybe the new tech is taking a bit longer than expected to adjust to. We probably won't know. But I'm certain those things are coming. We're getting a new(ish) Star Fox, something many thought wouldn't happen. Everyone has their own stories of how they got here and why they stay. We all have money constraints and different tastes, and most of us understand the many options out there apart from just Nintendo's 1st-party games. Many of us are just trying to enjoy the ride. I'm sorry if Nintendo didn't show you what you wanted. Maybe we'll see you again, down the road, when they make more of what you care about.
@Scarmucci For those who are being negative about the negativity about the negativity, we ALL waited 9 months. It's irritating how there's an attitude that the rest of us are just whipped stooges for Nintendo because we're feeling excited for what we have as opposed to what we're not getting. As if y'all are the only ones awake and willing to tell the REAL truth. I'm sorry you only caught the Direct during the thumb wrestling segment. Lucky for you, they have the video available to replay.
I am genuinely shocked that we didn't see anything about MKW. Even just to tell us that some more is coming - please understand - but I suppose that might be a bit too "inside baseball", so to speak. Ah well. It'll come when it comes. And there's so much (too much?) to play otherwise.
You summed it up perfectly for me, Gavin - too much to keep up with and afford. I feel the same about new stuff. I'm sort-of surprised that we didn't get more 1st-party reveals. But what we got looks great. And yes, lots of titles from other consoles. But, as Nintendo fans, that isn't usually the case. And even if we are getting later ports, we're getting many titles either slightly delayed or the same day as the other versions. Which is amazing! Besides, the ports are all generally quality titles, from what I can tell. And lastly, I am on the same page with you about Ocarina. I'd love to look at an even prettier version that runs smoothly and all that, but for that game and in this moment, I do hope they are preparing something extra special. I want that reimagining. The old title will always be what it is, nothing new can hurt it. Nintendo's using the term "reborn", which stirs up a lot of feelings and excitement for me. Can't wait to see more. Brilliant write-up.
@LastFootnote Thank you for explaining that. I haven't bought the game yet, though I think I will now, to get in on all the added fun before it's gone. 😰 That's a real bummer about not getting anything after all that.
@BenAV I hear you, but it didn't completely ruin it for me. This has been rumored for a long time, even with people just guessing. And yeah, I wish we had seen more. I feel like we're getting a Zelda 40th celebration at some point. And a trailer for the movie will probably be revealed then. I suspect we'll also get lots more info about this. I also think it could be a Holiday game. Which could either be November or December. How long does Nintendo usually give us before releases? 3 months? Less? So we may learn more in 2 or 3 months. Which, admittedly is still brutal. 💔
@Banjo- I meant the skeletons that stalk you at night. Yeah, I never finished Majora. It got too difficult with the time loop when I was like, 10, or whatever. I've got the 3DS one, so I plan to enjoy that at some point.
This is not what I was expecting this to be. I wonder why they chose DK for this. I'm curious to see if we can expect other challenges after this period ends. Presumably, that's the plan. I'll have to check this out later and see what the deal is with those cards and all that.
@asnapa I'm with you. It wasn't exactly what I was expecting them to do, but that's what expectations can do. I do feel like we didn't get many new 1st-party announcements, but I think what we saw looked great. And I have the same issue: too many games for me to handle. I can't even handle what I have. 😅
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Re: Feature: Six Things That Need To Change In The Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake
@LotusFlowers I think it's fair to say that they are making this for everyone. But to your point, they're going to be considering people that have never played it. So, we shouldn't expect it to just give all us veterans of the game exactly what we want in this redo. Still, considering that they are acknowledging this is the game "reborn", I think that tells us that it is being made with awareness of what came before. Otherwise, they could have just said, "We have a new Zelda game coming out: Ocarina of Time" and left it at that.
Re: Capcom Has "No Plans" To Bring Resident Evil Code: Veronica X To Switch Online
@HammerKirby XD I'm realizing now how wrong I am. Thanks for at least understanding where I was coming from. Hahaha.
Re: Nintendo Music Adds The Wii Sports Resort Soundtrack Today
@Suketoudara Ohh, you think that'll be the case? Or did they tell us that?
Re: Capcom Has "No Plans" To Bring Resident Evil Code: Veronica X To Switch Online
@Suketoudara @Yomerodes Ugh, you guys sure schooled me. Haha. Yes, we do have some pretty good stuff. And most of those companies are also quite keen to re-release their games in collections and what not. So, yay us!
Re: Capcom Has "No Plans" To Bring Resident Evil Code: Veronica X To Switch Online
@Yomerodes Oh man, good point! I forgot about those. And I was including Bandai Namco as basically a partner of Nintendo by now.
I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
Re: Capcom Has "No Plans" To Bring Resident Evil Code: Veronica X To Switch Online
@HammerKirby Right, why would they break that news?
Also, it's cool that the question was asked, but why would we think that might happen? The only 3rd-party games we've seen on Nintendo Classics are from more-or-less defunct developers or ones that are basically 2nd-party teams for Nintendo. Am I wrong?
Re: Nintendo Music Adds The Wii Sports Resort Soundtrack Today
Hm. It sorta seems like we're getting 2 releases per week now.
Re: Nintendo Music Adds The Wii Sports Resort Soundtrack Today
@UpsideDownRowlet Is one of them the theme song from "DuckTales?"
Re: PSA: Digimon Story Time Stranger Demo Now Available For Switch 1 & 2
@Jeronan Yes, I am. Yes, I know.
Re: PSA: Digimon Story Time Stranger Demo Now Available For Switch 1 & 2
@NerdyPaul You make some interesting and valid points. I personally can't see how demos wouldn't largely help game sales. They must create more new fans than they do lose potential ones. I know I've been disappointed by a few and negatively changed my mind about the games, but there are plenty others that have made me increase my wish list.
Re: PSA: Digimon Story Time Stranger Demo Now Available For Switch 1 & 2
@roy130390 Who you callin' absurd!!?
Thank you for recognizing that it's a joke. XD
Re: PSA: Digimon Story Time Stranger Demo Now Available For Switch 1 & 2
Wow, talk about a straight rip-off of Pokemon. They won't last long, not with Nintendo on their scent.
Re: Vanillaware's Underrated Wii Gem Returns On Switch 1 & 2 Early Next Year
Well done, Gavin!
Re: DK Challenge Event: Challenge Card List & Event End Date
Yeah, this is cool. I completed a few Classics challenges last night. It's a different format than I was expecting for this. A bit odd that you dive into menus, yet everything seemed to work very well. It moves smoothly, you jump right in, and when you complete the objective, it promptly tells you that it's complete and takes you back to the platform. I really like how they are utilizing so many different DK games, too.
I don't have Bananza (yet), so I'll have to see what those are like. It's sounds like they operate differently.
I do feel like their intention is to transition to perhaps a different series/franchise once this one's time limit expires. Which is cool. The time limits are kind of a bummer, but I guess it is what it is. Hopefully there is enough time for me to complete everything, should I buy the game soon.
One question I have about this is what becomes of these cards. Do we keep them in a digital library with our accounts, ready to be shown off? Are they just goal markers during this limited-time event? If that's the case, a checklist would provide the same utility. I wouldn't ultimately mind if these are just temporary bonus distractions to enjoy the games in specific ways. That being said, the challenges I've seen so far are just to complete levels or boss fights, but they're things one would do when playing the game anyway. Also, these challenges don't count as actual progress in the games. They're just singular experiences for the purpose of the challenges. I would prefer that we get to exhibit these tokens as a history of our achievements, because that always is part of the fun. Seeing how far you've come and/or seeing how far you have to go.
Perhaps related, Nintendo also had us collect those digital cards for Galaxy Movie through Nintendo Today. I have all of them. I think they're still there, but I'm not sure if that movie portal will remain in perpetuity. Those cards have more to them though, with catalog numbers and descriptive text. So, who knows.
I'm very excited to see them trying things like this. I hope they commit to it and remain flexible enough to adjust things or even change their approach. They have appeared to manage the profile icons in such a way, at least a little, so I'll remain optimistic.
Re: Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty Is Joining The Sequel On Switch 2, Out This September
@anoyonmus Same here! 😄 Okay, cool, thanks!
Re: Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty Is Joining The Sequel On Switch 2, Out This September
@Stormcloudlive Yes, I sympathize with your feelings. And I have stacks of games physically and digitally, some of which I haven't even tried yet. It's tough to resist some of these things.
Re: Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty Is Joining The Sequel On Switch 2, Out This September
@anoyonmus There you go, good call! Have you played these? I assume they're supposed to be good?
Re: Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty Is Joining The Sequel On Switch 2, Out This September
Aha! Someone called this.
Re: Kingdom Hearts Switch Cloud Versions Discontinued From Sale
Welp, add these guys to the list, NL.
Oh, no one cares? Huh.
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@Banjo- (gulp) I guess you say 3DS is for babies.
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@Banjo- Ha! Ah well. I suppose I could play it on the Nintendo Classics service. It's there, right?
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@Ravenmaster Same here. If there was any game that was no question, it would probably be this one for me. Heck, I'll probably preorder it, and I never do that anymore.
I feel like Majora seems less likely, but that would be really cool. I'm sure a lot of sales and strong reception for this couldn't hurt.
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
I was thinking, wouldn't it be amazing if they gave us a few tracks for this game on Nintendo Music? Like they did with Star Fox. And then I also wondered, will we get the rest of the Star Fox tracks when it releases? Or will it take months? I still don't understand the delay for these; I can't understand the problem with allowing people to listen to music at the time of release. I don't imagine they sell soundtracks for most of the games. Aside from the time and work it must take to get these adapted for the app, I don't know what the deal is.
Still, the music we heard sounds incredible, and I would love to hear more. They probably will sell a soundtrack to this one though, so we probably will have to wait.
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@Banjo- Yeah, I remember doing all that. The side quests were neat. I probably haven't played it since N64. My 3DS awaits!
Re: Reaction: A Direct That Picked Up Pace For A Breathtaking Finish
@Scarmucci Cool! Happy to enjoy this with you and everyone else.
Re: Reaction: A Direct That Picked Up Pace For A Breathtaking Finish
@Scarmucci I've had every Nintendo console and handheld since the SNES, except for Virtual Boy. I wasn't alive for the earlier stuff and didn't reach back for it. I had an original Xbox and a 360, a Dream astronaut, Steam. But Nintendo is my main device, always. I have lived through and endured the many ups and downs of Nintendo. I have also lived through and endured the endless mocking and criticism of Nintendo games and their fans. It even now comes "from inside the house." Nintendo knows what it's big sellers are. It also definitely knows what people are asking for. And one of the things they were asking for was more 3rd-party games. We are getting that. This reminds me of people calling for Zelda to break free from its template and mix it up. Then, we get 2 games - certainly 2 of the best games ever made, by most accounts - and everyone goes, "Why can't we get back to Zelda's roots?" There is always something to complain about. If Nintendo was able to give us a big new Mario or Zelda game or whatever else everyone THINKS they want, they would. What possible reason could they have for sitting on them or holding back? To keep the fair weather fans waiting, knowing that they'll finish the games in a month and then demand more? Maybe. Or maybe they're trying to expand their repertoire and explore other franchises, also something many people ask for. Maybe these games just aren't ready. Maybe they're trying really hard to find the right spark to make these games reach the massive bar they have set for themselves. Maybe they take a lot longer nowadays. Maybe the new tech is taking a bit longer than expected to adjust to. We probably won't know. But I'm certain those things are coming. We're getting a new(ish) Star Fox, something many thought wouldn't happen. Everyone has their own stories of how they got here and why they stay. We all have money constraints and different tastes, and most of us understand the many options out there apart from just Nintendo's 1st-party games. Many of us are just trying to enjoy the ride. I'm sorry if Nintendo didn't show you what you wanted. Maybe we'll see you again, down the road, when they make more of what you care about.
Re: Reaction: A Direct That Picked Up Pace For A Breathtaking Finish
@KatiaManagan I don't see any of that saying you aren't allowed to feel how you feel nor is it COMMANDING you not to be disappointed. 🙄
Re: Reaction: A Direct That Picked Up Pace For A Breathtaking Finish
@Scarmucci For those who are being negative about the negativity about the negativity, we ALL waited 9 months. It's irritating how there's an attitude that the rest of us are just whipped stooges for Nintendo because we're feeling excited for what we have as opposed to what we're not getting. As if y'all are the only ones awake and willing to tell the REAL truth. I'm sorry you only caught the Direct during the thumb wrestling segment. Lucky for you, they have the video available to replay.
Re: Reaction: A Direct That Picked Up Pace For A Breathtaking Finish
I am genuinely shocked that we didn't see anything about MKW. Even just to tell us that some more is coming - please understand - but I suppose that might be a bit too "inside baseball", so to speak. Ah well. It'll come when it comes. And there's so much (too much?) to play otherwise.
Re: Reaction: A Direct That Picked Up Pace For A Breathtaking Finish
You summed it up perfectly for me, Gavin - too much to keep up with and afford. I feel the same about new stuff. I'm sort-of surprised that we didn't get more 1st-party reveals. But what we got looks great. And yes, lots of titles from other consoles. But, as Nintendo fans, that isn't usually the case. And even if we are getting later ports, we're getting many titles either slightly delayed or the same day as the other versions. Which is amazing! Besides, the ports are all generally quality titles, from what I can tell. And lastly, I am on the same page with you about Ocarina. I'd love to look at an even prettier version that runs smoothly and all that, but for that game and in this moment, I do hope they are preparing something extra special. I want that reimagining. The old title will always be what it is, nothing new can hurt it. Nintendo's using the term "reborn", which stirs up a lot of feelings and excitement for me. Can't wait to see more. Brilliant write-up.
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@Banjo- Yeah, maybe. I didn't do the real math. 😆
I remember it being really cool and really enjoying it, but the countdown kept getting me.
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@LastFootnote Thank you for explaining that. I haven't bought the game yet, though I think I will now, to get in on all the added fun before it's gone. 😰 That's a real bummer about not getting anything after all that.
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@Windbreaker1612 Ah, arm wrestling, that was it! 🤣 My mistake.
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@LastFootnote But the runs are self-contained, right? It's not like you keep chipping away at a big end-goal?
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@Windbreaker1612 It is pretty funny. That being said, I believe it has a decent following in the UK. Maybe someone from there can confirm or deny?
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@Friendly Yeah, it's my only system, so I'm psyched to share in other fun, too.
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@BenAV I hear you, but it didn't completely ruin it for me. This has been rumored for a long time, even with people just guessing. And yeah, I wish we had seen more. I feel like we're getting a Zelda 40th celebration at some point. And a trailer for the movie will probably be revealed then. I suspect we'll also get lots more info about this. I also think it could be a Holiday game. Which could either be November or December. How long does Nintendo usually give us before releases? 3 months? Less? So we may learn more in 2 or 3 months. Which, admittedly is still brutal. 💔
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@Banjo- Okay, good. Hahaha.
Oh yes. It scared me when I was little.
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@Windbreaker1612 He's been playing the long game this whole time.
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@N00BiSH Emphasis on the "unfortunate." 🤕
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@Windbreaker1612 Save your thumb strength for Switch Sports Resort.
You'll need it. 🔥💪🏻
Re: Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave Is Yet Another September Release
@Glassneedles I'm sayin', Nintendo Game Pass. Let's have it.
Re: Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave Is Yet Another September Release
Oh man, explosive subheading. Love it! 🤣
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@Banjo- I meant the skeletons that stalk you at night. Yeah, I never finished Majora. It got too difficult with the time loop when I was like, 10, or whatever. I've got the 3DS one, so I plan to enjoy that at some point.
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@Windbreaker1612 @N00BiSH Yeah, emphasis on "stupid." 🫶🏻
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@Windbreaker1612 DK killed them and is wearing their clothes like a trophy.
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@Windbreaker1612 In our hearts.
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
This is not what I was expecting this to be. I wonder why they chose DK for this. I'm curious to see if we can expect other challenges after this period ends. Presumably, that's the plan. I'll have to check this out later and see what the deal is with those cards and all that.
Re: 'DK Challenge' Will Put Your NSO & Bananza Skills To The Test For A Limited Time
@mutenroshi @rjejr Right. Things cost money.
Re: Zelda: Ocarina Of Time Remake Is Real, And It's Launching This Year
@asnapa I'm with you. It wasn't exactly what I was expecting them to do, but that's what expectations can do. I do feel like we didn't get many new 1st-party announcements, but I think what we saw looked great. And I have the same issue: too many games for me to handle. I can't even handle what I have. 😅