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EA: Frostbite 3 On Wii U "Not Impossible"

Posted by Andy Green

Publisher wants to dish out "omnidirectional" support

Electronic Arts has had a strange relationship with Nintendo ever since the launch of the Wii U. There are currently four games from the publisher residing on the system but it seems the support - at least in the short-term - has all but dried up.

The company is naturally offering support for the upcoming PlayStation 4 and Xbox One and many of the titles being brought to those consoles will use the fabled Frostbite 3 engine.

It seems EA may implement the engine on Wii U too in the future but it is not the priority right now as in an interview with 4Gamer, EA Games Label Executive Vice President Patrick Söderlund said it was "not impossible" (translated from Japanese):

Our idea is giving omnidirectional support to all platforms as before

Electronic Arts released Mass Effect 3 and FIFA 13 for the Wii U, but currently we’re focusing our resources on Xbox One and PS4, so it’s a fact that the priority [of the Wii U] is slightly lower. Howerver making Frostbite 3 work on the Wii U is not impossible. Where there are gamers, we’ll be there as well. This is the true meaning of “omnidirectional".

In order to work on Wii U it is likely the technology would need to be scaled down a touch but as EA has said in the past it is certainly not writing off the console and will be back when it starts to build up an install base.

What are your thoughts on EA and the use of the Frostbite 3 engine on Wii U? Let us know in the comment section below.


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MightyShouter said:

"In order to work on Wii U it is likely the technology would need to be scaled down a touch"

Is it scaled back for the PS3 and 360? If not, it doesn't need to be for the Wii U.



Einherjar said:

back and forth, back and forth
EA is sitting on a giant swing, on its back is the "No WiiU" zone, on its front the "WiiU" Zone and its swinging back and foth between these two...
And i want to throw explosives after them -.-



SanderEvers said:

hahahaha ha haahahaha haha

Typical EA. They need to "scale it down" to make a profit with FB 3 on the other current gen (PS4 / XBOX ONE) consoles. There is NO - let me repeat that - NO technical limitation for the Wii U to run FB 3.

And yes, Electronic Farts, I'm laughing at you.



GiftedGimp said:

Written off due to FB2 not working well on WiiU
Oh dear EA, you starting to feel the Pain of those Anti WiiU lies you cast out earliervin the year?
Like the fact they still use the systems sales, or lack of, even though the actual total unit sales, even now are with in range of the Ps3/360 total sales for the same time period after launch.
I would accept the reason being 3rd party game sales are not great, as unfortunatley that is the case. Sometimes that has been the fault of the publisher, but there has been a few occasions now where 3rd party sales should of been higher.



SCAR said:

Proof that much of the "doom and gloom" was unfounded. What a surprise... (sarcasm).



Jaz007 said:

They never said it couldn't work, only that it wasn't in their best intrests to make it work. Gonna say that before people start saying that EA is backtracking.



jorgem696 said:

Yeah I guess EA is just waiting for Nintendo to make a great and then they will think about 3rd party support. And I dont blame EA, I dont know why Nintendo wanted to make another less powerful homeconsel and I dont know were Nintendo is keeping its head , and I hope now that Shigeru Miyamoto is working on hardware I hope he brings up a more powerful consel.



Smitherenez said:

@Yorumi Yeah, I do understand that I mean the internal confusion at EA. Some say they won't make games, some say they will support the wiiu, others say frostbite will not work on the wiiu and someone else claims that it will work. Maybe using the word confusion was not a good choice?



Kaihaku said:

I have a long standing grudge against Electronic Arts dating back to their acquisition and subsequent disbanding of Origin Systems - creators of the Ultima and Wing Commander series.

However...If Dragon Age: Inquisition is released on the Wii U I will have an extremely difficult time not buying it. I've never been successful in boycotting EA because they keep on buying up smaller studios that I love and I can't quite break away until after EA has completely destroyed said studio - by which point they've bought another studio that I love. Origin Systems, Westwood, Maxis... Sigh.



Gate_Shikimuri said:

More powerful console = More expensive cost = Less sales

For those who are saying Nintendo should've made a more powerful console.



Peach64 said:

They're not back pedalling. It's just this particular community likes twisting stories. They NEVER said it would not run. They said it ran poorly. Of course the could optimise it, but at that point, a game they'd spend months optimising, Most Wanted U, had just bombed big time. Wii U's architecture is drastically different from the other consoles, so there is no quick and easy porting. Everything takes time and money, and sales then, and now, do not make it worth it.

There's no U turn here. Just like with 95% of other stories where Nintendo fans someone is backtracking.

Random game dev: We're do not have any Wii U games in the pipeline.

Nintendo fans: OMG they said they'd never doing anything on Wii U

Random game dev: Um, actually, we said we have nothing in the pipeline. We might put out something in the future.

Nintendo fans: Haha, look at them back tracking! No doubt because of the negative Xbone reception.

It happens EVERY TIME.



ivanmata said:

It'll be great if they start showing some support, what really bothers me is that even now we know we'll get scaled down versions of the games, I hope the difference won't affect gameplay.



RosstiferZ said:

I feel like companys are going back on what they said earlier on about the console because they saw potential at E3.



SCAR said:

That's not how it at all, at least from my perspective. There was even a few known people in the industry that said it was weaker than Xbox 360, which is obviously false.
Some people actually believe some of the foolish things people say, and don't understand the actual reasons a said thing won't happen for Wii U at the moment. In this case, EA led many to believe the Wii U was a weak console.

"Frostbite 2 won't run, because we didn't really try" = doom and gloom = BS



seronja said:

if they can bring mirror's edge 2 on the wii u with frostbite 3, then it's fine by me =)



SCAR said:

They can. It just depends on how well Wii U is doing. As far as sales go:

Wii U = 4 million and counting
Xbox One = TBD



MrGawain said:

The main reason for the change of heart is this: now games on the 180 and PS4 aren't blocked from resale, the Wii U is back on level ground. That's why EA were twisting the screw on Nintendo in the first place. No excuse now!



Peach64 said:

@SanderEvers Where did they say that? When the news originally broke Frostbite 3 wasn't running on Wii U, they said this:

"We right now don't have support for the Wii U in the Frostbite engine. The reason for that is it takes development time".

Then someone on Twitter called out a DICE developer and said it had previously been running on Wii U, and the dev said:

"FB3 has never been running on WiiU. We did some tests with not too promising results with FB2 & chose not to go down that path"

I can't find any quotes where they said it would never happen. No back tracking.



hYdeks said:

I swear not that long ago they said they couldn't, and now they can??? EA is confusing, either support Wii U and **** up, or not support Wii U and still **** up. They publish some really great games, but their going back and forth lately on Wii U is getting VERY irritating ¬¬



Nintex said:

I can almost feel the hand of Disney forcing E.A to support WiiU. Disney and Nintendo are friends and Disney wants Star Wars on the WiiU. EA stuck in the middle with the pressure upon them. lol



Darknyht said:

If they release something that hasn't been released 6 months prior on other consoles, then I might be interested. For example, looking foward to playing Batman: AO on WiiU after enjoying Batman: AA and Batman: AC on the 360, but it will be a cold day before I repurchase Batman: AC Armored Edition for WiiU.

I've been tempted by Mass Effect 3 on WiiU, but since I cannot import my Shepherd the temptation is much less. Plus, I want no part of the mess they turned the ending into.



Striker667 said:

@Kaihaku EA has been on my S*it list for the same reason. I agree 100% about Origin systems. They really did create worlds and EA destroyed them. Gone are the games like Privateer, Wingcommander(Same Universe), Ultima, lesser known apple game 2400 AD, and many other wonderful worlds they created. Thanks for that EA....



Goginho said:

Nintendo whip out a BEAST of a console, and all these incopetent, narrow-minded companies know what to do is to amp up the graphics every generation, instead of actually working with the innovation that was so nicely served to them on a golden plate.. tsk tsk tsk. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. "Oh the system is not powerful enough.. oh, we might be able to do something eventually.. oh but this..oh but that..." lol. It's been like this for a long time now. The effort and the level of innovation has dropped in most companies in the recent years I've noticed, and continues to drop gradually, whereas Nintendo always try their best to put forth new and fresh gameplay experiences, cleverly working around the "graphical/power limitations" and what not. Hats off to you Nintendo )



Emblem said:

As i said when they first said it was impossible, any dev will tell you otherwise. Stop treating game consumers as idiots, were not all mindless dudebros.



Striker667 said:

@Peach64 You know full well that they made those comments with the tone that it was not going to happen so go buy a Ps4/XOne instead. Yes technically I don't remember them saying it will never run, but what idea did their carefully chosen comments give consumers? Perception is reality. Do a search and you;'ll see most articles and forums are full of people saying it CANT run because of the limitations U has. So I agree that even just saying it could work is a flip flop on their part. It shows a clear change in tone.



AVahne said:

Wishing EA will stop mentioning those poorly-done and overpriced-at-Wii-U-launch ports Mass Effect 3 and FIFA, etc.
They're pretty much repeatedly emphasizing quantity over quality.



Macarony64 said:

The lack of games on wiiu from big publishers could be the reason EA is backpedaling. Who would not want to bet on a race with few horses?



GearsOfWarU said:

EA Sucks glad I dont want any of there games .... Also has anyone seen Konami ??? Have they released a single game on Wii U ??? Or even Virtual Console for that matter... I grew up on Castlevania, Contra & Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles ... I would love to see those games released on Virtual Console .... and how about Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2 for Wii U !!!!! I hate EA for treating Nintendo fans like crap ... but im starting to feel the same about Konami !!!!



banacheck said:

EA Sucks glad I dont want any of there games.

I know what you are saying, but you should put the platform [Wii U] before your feelings. Because having them games could bring more people to the Wii U.



Striker667 said:

@#40 Those comments also doesn't say it ever will or even can. Saying FB2 doesn't work implies FB3 doesn't either. What direction do you think the PR team figured that stament would go? Buy a Ps3/XOne our games work their. That is their statement during a time when U wasn't selling to projection was intended to do damage.



GiftedGimp said:

It gets me the amount of people defending EA.. Ok fair play they havn't in actuall wording said 'We are totally abandoning Nintendo and WiiU' but it pretty damn obvious by thier own and developers they publish for comments that the sub-text was 'Buy Ps4, Buy Xbone and you will get our games, we can't be bothered with the WiiU. ALL of the negativity EA & Co have thrown at WiiU has Either been proven false or exagerated by thier own u-turn comments or by other developers/publishers.
I strongly believe Nintendo's refusal of Origin control over Nintendo Network started EA on the path of abandoning WiiU but with MS now publically abandoned drm fiasco, and the rumoured last minute drop of Sony's drm restrictions on ps4.. (which is almost definatley true, do you really believe MS would of announced thier restrictions if they hadn't believed Sony were doing the same?) it has made EA actually rethink thier stance on WiiU
Having, internally at least, abandoned WiiU before the end of last year, hence no other games have even been started in development since NFSMW and the constant WiiU bashing they have to now try to tactically make a return (start??) to support the WiiU without getting egg on thier face by attracting to much attention to past WiiU negativity. They have been very clever in past negative WiiU comments in terms of making the sub-text quite clear in that they were telling the WiiU to get stuffed, without actually saying it and no doubt they will sucker a lot of people with pr spin and carefull wording into thinking EA were not being Anti WiiU all along....Seems to already be working.
On the plus side as I said Months ago, Come Next year EA and a lot of other publishers WILL be including WiiU in thier plans without a doubt.



Relias said:

Listen up you good and wonderful Nintendo fans.. if your system sells.. and there are gamers that own your system... we will come back to your system.. now be good little puppies and wait for us... so we can give you a bunch of cheap ports and games that already came out on other systems.. but without the DLC... but until then here is a little treat... Hands us Milk Bones.. and gently pats our heads Good puppies...



Senate_Guard said:

Geez just confirm or deny it already! The only reason I want EA to make games on Wii U, is because they have all the rights to making Star Wars titles.



Paperluigi said:

Of course they can recode frostbite 3 to run on WiiU but I have no confidence they will do a good job or even utilise the gamepad properly. EA will probably put a second rate team on the job and produce a below par version. Then nobody will buy it and EA will point the finger and complain that their games dont sell on Nintendo. EPIC FAIL from EA and DICE.



Rafie said:

@GiftedGimp Dude you won't drop that whole "rumoured last minute drop of Sony's drm restrictions on ps4.. (which is almost definatley true, do you really believe MS would of announced thier restrictions if they hadn't believed Sony were doing the same?)" Okay we get it. You feel as though the rumors were true. Doesn't make it fact, but if you believe it...then okay. Oh just because MS ASSUMED Sony would do something doesn't mean that Sony was going to do it.

Now on topic, I do believe that the Wii U is definitely capable of FB3. I just think the architecture of the Wii U system itself is complex and devs aren't wanting to put the time in because the sales of the platform aren't excelling at EA's standards. Watch when the sales start picking up, devs will be coming out of the woodwork to develop for the Wii U.



Jaz007 said:

@Goginho More power allows for a lot more than better graphics. Current gen power has limited game designers. Those game designers don't have to deal with those restrictions on PS4 and the One.



F4LLEND4RK said:

Seriously stop with these stories! We already know that EA will only offer support when the Wii U starts selling well.



Williaint said:

I know that Ex-EA employee said it couldn't, But it also turned out to be hearsay (EA did not deny that it couldn't work). Basically, they have assumed it couldn't work, without proving it; that's not good.
Originally, it was said the Unreal 4 engine couldn't work, but they changed their minds about that. I have no idea about the CryEngine 3; if it can run on 360 and PS3, it should be able to run on WiiU.
Recently, EA has come out and said that they aren't developing anything right now, because it is just a waste of their time and money to port something. So how many consoles does Wii U need to sell, before it is becoming enough of the great EA? 100 million, 1 billion? What if PS4 and XBone sell less at launch than Wii U did? Would EA admit that they jumped on the wrong horse?



GiftedGimp said:

@Rafie Fair do's, however looking at facts not rumours, EA not complimentary towards WiiU since January despite Good pre-christmas launch figures, No other EA WiiU games started development since NFSMW, EA drop Online passes, EA announce Partnership with Microsoft, Microsoft Announce Severe restrictions on drm rights which causes massive backlash, EA start saying kinder things about WiiU (by comparison), Microsoft u-turn drm policy on Xbone, EA releases more WiiU friendly comments (again by comparison).
Theres definatley more to the EA-WiiU relationship beyond sales figures and system specs, and now the playing field isn't as they planned EA are trying to get grab a bit more of the turf they gave away earlier in the year.
Dice didn't even try to get FB3 on WiiU, since from what they were saying FB2 didn't work properly on WiiU and stopped going down that avenue. Dice being an EA developer, and given EA's then 'No plans for WiiU' and 'WiiU not Next-gen/underpowered' stance at that time it was obvious bs to try to veer consumers and possibly other developers away from WiiU.
EA can't suddenly turn around and say Fb3 and associated games will work and are coming to WiiU, We know we said they wouldn't and couldn't go on WiiU but we exagerated the lack of power of the WiiU a bit. What they can do is drop the odd statement like 'we are waiting for a larger userbase to build, there is a possibility of, we are looking at what projects to bring to WiiU in the future.' By doing this they can make it seem a much harder task to bring games to WiiU than it actually is, and buy time to (re)start the development cycle for WiiU games.



timp29 said:

Nintendo should try tweak frostbite to work for wiiu, then claim a greater share of profits (if they're even allowed to touch frostbite).

Someone called them Electronic Farts. I pictured someone farting into a microphone, putting it through an autotuner, then claiming it as song of the year. Sums up electronic arts perfectly.



Rafie said:

@GiftedGimp I have a question then. Since they claimed that FB2 doesn't resonate with the Wii U, can FB3 be a better comparison? Of course FB2 probably can't because the Wii U is a more powerful console, right? At least that's what I would think logically. I really don't know what the whole EA/Ninty thing. All I see is more negative stories from EA about Ninty.

You have a point about this being "more than what they're telling" type of thing. EA could be on a spiteful rage against Nintendo for that Origins stuff. Then again, what's stopping the other big devs like Konami and others from developing on the Wii U?



GiftedGimp said:

@Rafie I never understood fully why FB2 'Would not work properly' on WiiU tbh. I can only assume FB2 was cpu intensive and Dice didn't or wasn't given the opertunity to optimise the engine to make use of the WiiU's architecture, (cpu-gpgpu relationship and cache's) by EA.. nor could anyone else really hence why it was pretty much excepted as a bs excuse at the time not to use the engine on WiiU. FB3 would be a case of optimising the engine to use the WiiU's architecture properly, and obviously scale back from what the Ps4/Xbone can output due to having less ram on WiiU, but this would if done properly be a better running engine on WiiU than Ps3/360
Konami who knows, that is a mystery to me, Though I don't think they are as big now as they used to be, could be wrong but no 'big AAA games spring to mind in recent years that made a massive amount of sales on Mainstream home consoles (feel free to correct) so maybe its financial? Activision, Ubisoft, Codemasters, WarnerBros, Capcom all seem to be, at least in a small capacity supporting WiiU, at least for now. Maybe thats because they are waiting to see how things pan out over time, and these publisher are trying to show WiiU owners they are happy to support the WiiU, if demand is there.. as I say EA abandoned WiiU, internally at least, prior to xmas, if they hadn't they would of had one or two more games due for release this year.



QuickSilver88 said:

Why doesn't Nintendo step up and say they will fund the cost of developing FrostByte3 on WiiU? I mean my lord its not like is will cost millions and millions of dollars to get a scalable engine running that runs on everything from phones to pcs running on one system. Once the engine is running then EA will be to bring their games to WiiU with the same ease as any other system. Now that aside I think the way EA has treated an entire fanbase is bad business. They dob't have to make games if they don't think they can profit, but why trash the WiiU and all its owners? Even if Nintendo has only moderate sales with WiiU that could be 30-40mil units. That is a lot of fans/users you are alienating...why? I am an all systems gamer but I am turned off by their treatment of an entire fanbase, mire importantly I just have not been that impressed with their latest stuff.....DA2 not nearly as good as DAO, ME3 not as good as ME2, Madden and NCAA peaked many years ago and they have not made a good baseball or basketball game for eons. So its wait and see EA.



SCAR said:

You forgot to mention that Wii U is way more capable than PS3 and Xbox 360. No one has even really tried that hard for Wii U, that's why it's important for Wii U to linger until Xbox One and PS4 come out.

When Xbox One and PS4 come out, so will the games. I'm thinking many will be surprised with what Wii U can do when they actually get 8th gen multiplats running on Wii U.
I think they will. They'd be ignoring a pretty big install base, otherwise.



Rafie said:

@GiftedGimp Well Konami does have their biggest franchise which is the Metal Gear Solid joints! Anyway, DICE shouldn't have to scale back FB3 that much since it's not a HUGE difference in graphical power from the other 2 next gen. I guess we can see if or when COD: Ghosts comes to the Wii U what these graphics can do, unless they do some spotty port. Ports do no justice. If you develop the game for the system its coming on, then you'll utilize the vast potential of that said system. This is why Mario games looks so incredibly good on the Wii U. I can't even imagine how Zelda or Metroid will be. It's going to be bananas (no pun for DK lol)

Battlefield for the Wii U would have been epic. Still, Nintendo will be okay. However, more 3rd party devs should really start developing for them. The Wii U really isn't failing like everyone is making it out to be. It's struggling at the moment. The software will speak for itself. I'll imagine by 2nd quarter '14 we'll start hearing about more big time devs wanting their games on the Wii U.



element187 said:

@Peach64 the Wii U isn't dramatically different then current consoles.... Both the x360 and the Wii U are quite similar.

Both are using a tri-core PowerPC... X360 uses a 970 based processor while the Wii U is using a 950 based processor. Both systems use ddr3 main memory. Both are using eDRAM memory subsystem for caching to speed up the main memory. X360 has 10mb and the Wii U has 32mb of eDRAM.

Honestly the only real difference between the two is the x360 is using an Nvidia GPU and the Wii U has an AMD Radeon, but moving the code over should be a snap.... I replaced my Nivdia GPU with a Radeon based GPU and the only thing I had to do was remove the Nvidia drivers and install the Radeon drivers. And immediately my games worked, no sweat.

But the Wii U is far more superior, its GPU is far more modern, able to push 3x as many polygons per second, using current OpenGL 4.0 standards to x360's old directx9 features. Wii U has far more memory (2gb) to x360's 512mb.

This is more EA blowing smoke up people's asses, hoping most people are not aware how similar the xbox360 and Wii U are.



element187 said:

I still have no desire to buy any EA games... I have a 2 year old gaming system that is easily faster than the PS4, and looking to upgrade her later this year (slap in another video card in a crossfire) and need some next gen games to purchase....

And I have no interest of ever purchasing a single EA game for my new gaming rig.... But I think I'll support Ubisoft and 2k games instead.



MadAdam81 said:

@Peach64 they didn't actually say it ran poorly, just that the quick port ran poorly and it would take a lot of time and money to get it working right, and due to the low install base of the Wii U, this time and money wouldn't be well spent.
The fact that it wouldn't run properly when finished is a guess by the journalist.



capitalism said:


This my friend is the real reason EA is back pedaling. You nailed it on the head.


You my friend have the specs mostly right, but you saying that Wii U is comparable to the 360 right afterwards kind of discredits your post. With the specs you gave the Wii U is roughly 2X the power of the 360. Mind you this doesn't count the unknowns that are still out there about the system. What that means is that Wii U is in the middle in terms of the power gap between current and next gen consoles. Yes it shares some similarities with the 360, but when those similarities are compared the Wii U outperforms the 360 almost every time.

Anyways, I want to have faith in EA again because I'm really enjoying Need for Speed U and would love to see the sports games return. Bring over the games and all will be forgiven, at least in my eyes.



krunchykhaos said:

@Wintendo really....

Anyway I find it HILARIOUS that they say frostbite 2 has issues on the wiiu when it runs on the ps3 and Xbox. Maybe, this is talking to you EA, you should LEARN the hardware differences AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY. Dumb people are bad. Biased people are bad. Dumb and biased people just make me want to set fire to things.



Dipso said:

So... are they having a hard time optimizing frostbite 3 for the WiiU architecture then? and they said all those other things so they wouldn't "look bad"?.... ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶

I find it baffling that there are so few official lines of communication in companies like these, that they have to go putting out fires all the time.



Araknie said:

What EA has to offer to a SNES born gamer like me that loves Japanese games, long games and gameplay before "content and experience"?

Mirror's Edge 2? Yes, if guns are so much optional like the first title, then what?
Really this almost needs a Talking Point, like: "What America has to offer to Ninty's?" Or a poll, depends on how you do it.

I'm, after having some troubles convincing myself, playing Tomb Raider 9 (damned reboots) and it's a really great game. It's finally the true successor of TR4 that i long awaited and i glad it exists because it's fun.

But the number of american developed games that is fun, to me, it's like 3 or 5 in a year. Most of american developed games are too serious for my liking, sometimes i like taking a games that's also a personal experience but really it's an occasion, mostly i want gameplay and that i will last a lost. I don't even care for story if there isn't.

Gamers like me are having a hard time relating with this american market that every year become, at my eyes, a great ratatouille of guns and cars that rarerly pulls out something interesting.

So really, graphics are never in my mind when picking a game. When someone talks to me about graphics and how much cool they are the word "cool" insipires my SNES, Wind Waker and Xenoblade Chornicles.

Me and my search for fun in gaming continues, thanks to Nintendo my belly is going to be full with some next Wii U titles, yes even Super Mario 3D World. I liked a whole lot, completing it 100%, 3D Land a game like that on the Wii U is my dream. If there are the SWorlds really just that would make the trick in for me.

I'm simple like that.



Contrite said:

I don't really care much about what EA does. The only games they publish that are even moderately interesting is BioWare's games, and those have taken a down turn lately. Besides, I'd much prefer playing Inquisition on my PC, that is, if it's anything like DA:O and not the wannabe-themepark-MMO-button-spam-fest that DA2 was.

The only other thing I care about from them is The Sims 4, but considering what a disappointment TS3 was, I'm not getting my hopes up. At least Maxis is back in the drill again.



defrb said:

Wiiu dont need EA, scaled down versions of games that also run on almost every system? no thank you ^^
It would only be intresting if they make exclusives for the wiiu.



FullbringIchigo said:

i don't see why it would have to be tweeked if Frost Bite 3 is capable of working on the PS3 then it should work on the WiiU because the PS3 is harder to develop for right?

on a side note i wish EA would make up it's mind are they making games for the WiiU or not? will their game engine run on it or not?

also anyone else notice that EA has done a backtrack on a lot of things it said about Nintendo since they got the Star Wars licence off Disney, do you think they had anything to do with it because after all Disney like Nintendo plus they would want their games on as many systems as possible

now if only they would bring the Mass Effect Trilogy and all the DLC to the WiiU that would be a start in getting us to lay off them a bit



Goginho said:

@Jaz007 Yea you have a point, and I'm with you on that one, but I feel that game designers have gotten lazy and don't try and actually reinvent. Don't get me wrong, a lot of games are still fun to play from third party companies, and games on other systems as well (such as Halo), but I find that they don't have a lasting appeal (at least to me they don't), and the experiences are therefore quite forgettable after a while.



MAB said:

I would at least like a "thankyou MadAussie for spending $90 downloading NFS:MW from the eShop, cheers for your support" but they only care about the people that haven't bought their games yet... Bastids



banacheck said:

The Wii U doesn't support DirectX 11, it supports up to DirectX10 on OpenGL. So game's cannot be ported over to the Wii U easily, unlike PC,PS4,Xbox One. In fact that is the main reason why the Wii U is not getting Kingdom of Hearts 3, Lack of DirectX 11 support.



ivan134 said:

@banacheck is that why they could get fb2 running on 360 & ps3, which both have dx9 cards, but can't get it to run on the wiiu?



banacheck said:


I was pointing out even when the other consoles are out games will not be any easier to port over to the Wii U.



Mizzah_Tee said:

@Peach64 Man you do like to cherry pick. Let me also say that nowhere in the atricle does it say that "We'll continue working on it until we yield optimal results as our unprecedented partnership would suggest that we want Wii U to succceed with unprecedented commitment from EA."

You often condescend N fans in an attempt to sound like some middle grounded voice of reason, as if we are just emotional rash nintendrones who think the world hates Nintendo and you are above the fray and leveled head. Mr. Cat Peach avatar guy. "See guys I love Nintendo, I'm just being reasonable. But you too often avoid the FACTS. Countless doon and gloom Wii U articles. EA's so called unprecedented support. A joke. EA employees angry vengeful twitter rants. No Madden on a Nintendo console for the first time ever. We got shoddy half @ssed, over priced ports and are told to buy them or else. Ignoring all that Peach64 wants you to know it Nintendo fan paranoia. Ninja please. You're not helping.

You may now dismount your high horse...



TheHeroOfLegend said:

So your telling me that the frostbite engine can't work, but it can work. What the heck is EA doing? They can't even make their point straight! Its like: "we have no plans, and then we have plans". Hope EA can make firm solution about this.



CaPPa said:

1. Frostbite 2 was never optimized to run on Wii U, in fact it shouldn't run well on Wii U as it is not designed to take advantage of the extra features of the Wii U (out of order execution, tessellation etc).
2. Frostbite 3 should easily run on Wii U as it is a scalable engine, therefore it has to be scaled/optimized to every platform (even PS4 and XBO).

I'm at the point where I no longer care if EA put their garbage on Wii U or not. I'm not buying any EA games anymore, not on PS3, 360, 3DS or PS4 (when I get one). The only way I'll buy an EA game now is used, so they won't ever get a single cent from me again.

I'm the kind of gamer that EA needs too because I buy a lot of games on release, but they've crapped on me so much that they've lost me as a customer for life.



ianmage1 said:

I'm only worried that we'll miss out on the Star Wars Battlefront 3 that EA is developing. I was furious when I heard that they were the company in charge of the game.



wusomnumberone said:

Can they just make games for every console since instead of talking about making games for a colsole since they are third party but their smart solution is to wait until the Wii U makes more sales but the console itself doesn't make that many sales the games do this is why so many third party game companys go bankrupt and Nintendo is not to blame if you don't make any games for them. Goodbye EA!!!!!

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