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USA VC Update: Sonic (Master System) and Splatterhouse 2

Posted by Marcel van Duyn

If you've been keeping up with the news and saw our recent articles, you would've known that Capcom, Hudson Soft and SNK Playmore all "confirmed" that one of their games would be released on VC today in the US. These games would have been Mega Man, Ys Book I & II, and Samurai Shodown II, all classics and very well liked among retro gamers. Sadly, it appears that Nintendo of America is having none of that (Just like two weeks ago with Star Parodier and Break In) and has chosen to release completely different games instead.

Sonic the Hedgehog on the Sega Master System will probably immediately be written off by many as being an inferior port of the Genesis/Mega Drive version of the game. This is completely wrong. The game has pretty much the same gameplay as its 16-bit counterpart, but features completely different levels, extra Zones, and other noticeable changes. It's not as good as its bigger brother, but it is a good game in its own right and for only 500 points you can't really go wrong here.

Splatterhouse 2 is the sequel to the arcade game Splatterhouse, which was released on Virtual Console over a year ago as the TurboGrafx-16 port. Splatterhouse 2 is not a port, as it is exclusive to the Genesis/Mega Drive. It's not much different from the original game, featuring the same "Run right and clobber everything you come across" gameplay, but obviously having different levels, enemies, bosses and weapons. We don't think it's as good as the original game, although the game itself can't really help this, as it's got more to do with the console it's on.

We'd really like to know what happened at Nintendo of America for a disaster this big to happen - Three fantastic games all announced by their respective publishers (Who presumably got confirmation from Nintendo), only to have two completely different games come out! We can only wonder what happens next week, as Star Parodier and Break In, both already delayed two weeks ago, are rescheduled to be released then!

On WiiWare this week, you can download Wild West Guns, a shooter not unlike the Wii game Link's Crossbow Training, except it is obviously set in the wild west. Check out WiiWare World for more info as usual!

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Rockman_90 said:

It was to good to be true why bother saying some games to come out when its the complete opposite even if it doesn`t affect me i think its so unfair for you in America i hope you get Megaman, samurai showdown 2 and ys book 1,2 games at least next monday. Nintendo just keeps to dissapoint.



Kevin said:

I'll get sonic but Nintendo of America, I have so lost faith in you. Give us the mega mans (and vectorman) already please!



Bass_X0 said:

wow. I expect a lot of angry people here about how they been lied to and let down by Nintendo. The three game week was too good to be true...



animagnum said:

What the crap? Sonic the Hedgehog on SMS isn't terrible, but this is still a big bummer.



Mazero said:

Um, I blame Hudson, SNK, and Capcom, no Nintendo. Nintendo didn't calim they were coming monday, the three companies did. Let's blame them!



slangman said:

Um so you guys were supossed to get Mega Man? Wounder why NOA keeps changing it's mind with confirmed releases. Maybe because they had a bad day who knows? Still an ok week though.



Link79 said:

We might as well just quit reading these damn reports about which VC games are confirmed because it's all BS. From now on I'm not gonna believe any of this crap until I see it on the shop myself.
What a pisser.



Drake said:

Publishers have no say over when their games are released. They submit games to Nintendo, who then decides when they are released and tells those publishers a few days in advance. So obviously Nintendo told Capcom, Hudson and SNK that their games would be coming today, they wouldn't make that information up!

(This is the situation in the US at least, I think in Europe there's a bit more lee-way)



blackknight77 said:

Does anyone at Nintendo talk to each other? It seems the they have problems in their chain of command.

Thats not a bash against todays games mind you. But I think Nintendo needs to communicate more effectivly with is publishers and consumers on this issue.

I just don't see how 3 publishers all get information that their games will be released today. Somone at Nintendo messed up



Cipher said:

Can I just confirm that it was the respective companies that confirmed their games would be released and not Nintendo? They clearly didn't have 100% confirmation, otherwise there would have been a very different selection of games today. Nintendo never stated that these games would be released today.



Rockman_90 said:

But Nintendo is the one who decides which games that will be released on the virtual console. maybe they have had a missundarstanding of some sort between the companies. In ethier way i think Nintendo is the one to blame here.



Lefty_Noob said:

You know, I'm highly annoyed by this (as I'm sure a lot of people are), but I can't help but think... if Nintendo did actually tell Hudson, SNK and Capcom that the games would be out today, and they sent out press releases to that effect, how ticked off must they be right now? They look like idiots for promising something that didn't get delivered, and now will probably have more than a few angry emails to deal with. If NoA did promise those companies that those games would be out today, I wonder how ticked off they must be with NoA right now?



Terra said:

This will obviously be a big letdown after the press releases. To be honest, it seemed to good to be true for the US and it is. Still, Sonic SMS is quite good, Splatterhouse is alright and you get the fantastic Wild West Guns but it's still a letdown. Shame about no Plattchen. At least Eruope should get it first



Mazero said:

Why can't we just agree the games released today are good? Why do we have to write over 10,000 death to NOA comments?



uncle_smuck said:

sonic is the dogs But what happened? Shows that VC users shouldn't keep their hopes up. America must be a little dissapointed.



Link79 said:

They keep using that word confirmed too which really annoys me.
Why don't they just start saying rumored.



Lefty_Noob said:

Sure, the games are good games. I'll probably be picking up Wild West Guns. But if you're promised one thing and delivered something else, don't you think you have a right to get a little ticked off? I'll admit, I was psyched up for Ys Book I & II and I'm very disappointed it's not coming this week as promised. So I certainly don't mean to knock these games, but at the same time, I find it hard to be happy with today's releases.



animagnum said:

From Nintendo's site:
"Unlike standard Wii games which have release dates that are known well in advance, there is rarely advance notice given of when Virtual Console games will appear. For a variety of business and technical reasons games may be postponed, so we usually don't reveal much past the current Monday's releases."

I guess maybe something happened, but whatever. Sonic is still worth a download, and it's definitely lighter on the wallet than what we were expecting.



Jeph said:

This is garbage!!!! I bought the Wii primarily for the classic games, and in my mind there hasn't been a classic released for 3-4 months. I was very much looking forward to Mega Man and SS2. Especially Mega Man, its games like that that are the true classics, not some crappy games from sega that I could care less to play for more than 1/2 hour each. The games I would care to play all the way through never come out. I thought this week would be redemption for the VC, but someone screwed up big time. Huge letdown for me.



blackknight77 said:

If Nintendo of America would do like Nintendo of Japan and post a monthly release schedule I guess they could avoid this mess. I guess that would be too easy.



whalleywhat said:

Just a reminder to everyone that Nintendo never confirmed anything, this is all the result of third parties thinking they could dictate when the games were gonna be released. The same thing happened with Hudson a couple weeks back, so I don't know why anyone's surprised. Personally, I kept my expectations low and figured if either Mega Man or SamSho II were released I'd be happy, but the releases being what they are is the punchline to the whole thing. Turns out, NoA are comedic geniuses. Drink those tears, Reggie. Drink em up.



Damo said:

Nintendo should probably make publishers keep their silence if they don't want to keep disappointing people.



David77 said:

Wathever the reason, let's face it. Nintendo disapointed us like never before, not only because of this week change of direction, but for the overall actions they take. Like i said they don't give you what you want, they tell you what you want. They disapointed us and tell us after we're wrong. They understand something that you don't. That's what they saying. I never see so many bad games on a console library. Never. But i'm wrong, i don't understand.



Cally said:

"Why can't we just agree the games released today are good"

I'm sure they are good. But if I downloaded every game on the VC that was "good," I wouldn't be able to buy much else with my entertainment budget. Before, it looked like an awful lot of people were going to be happy with one, two, or all three of the downloads.

I think the disputes about Nintendo's problems getting a license should be over, then? Not to mention the old argument that it just takes THAT long to polish an emulation. The whiners were right. These frustrations are all in Nintendo's power to fix.

Well, I thought I was going to try Ys today, but I guess it's back to SoulCalibur 4.



Bass_X0 said:

I hope we Europeans get Sonic this week and with any luck, Samurai Shodown 2 too. And Nintendo disappointing us consumers is nothing new unfortunately,



Cipher said:

"This is garbage!!!! I bought the Wii primarily for the classic games"
That was a very, very stupid thing to do.

@whalleywhat: Hit the nail on the head.



Ghouls_n_Ghosts said:

Man what a bummer. I was so getting ready to go right now to get my points card, but something told me that I should check to confirm if the games were really being released.

I really wanted to play Y's. Thanks alot, Nintendo.



Cally said:

"Nintendo should probably make publishers keep their silence if they don't want to keep disappointing people."

. . . and let the cat out of the bag that God-knows how many anticipated games are completely ready but are being held back.



Cally said:

@ deadbattery

Nah, sometimes when companies like Hudson announced something it really did happen. But this is clearly Nintendo-intervention. As of right now, Hudson's site still says that Ys is out today, which means they didn't even know that Nintendo would do this at the last second.



worrybomb said:

I think Nintendo ought to give some kind of response to this very soon. Not only is this disappointing to their consumers but also the publishers that put their hard work on promoting these games so they can be as successful as Nintendo first-party games. I sincerely doubt these publishers are saying any old willy nilly date without Nintendo having a word with them.

Either don't tell these publishers a date or go by your word and release them.



Cally said:

"I sincerely doubt these publishers are saying any old willy nilly date without Nintendo having a word with them."


EDIT: You know, looking at the patterns around here, the anticipated games also looked to be a major morale-booster for everyone around here. Even the "worst" of us really aren't that hard to please, then, with it looking like everyone might be happy with something.



WarioFan63 said:

Hmmm. Sonic the Master System Hedgehog and Splatterhouse 2 arent bad games but unfortunately the next week is going to be a mess of everyone on The Internet hating them forever for not being promised today.

I can only wonder why 3 different companies made a mistake. Especially since Hudson used to be right about everything. If anything though, I bet we can expect Samurai Showdown 2, Ys Book 1 and 2, and Mega Man in August at least.

I dont really think Nintendo sits up on the top floor of a looming castle, twirling his Snidley Whiplash moustache and cackling as it releases games we didnt expect. Perhaps if it is they themselves who made the promise but...

This calls for some detective work from the worlds-best and nothing less! Im calling L, Encyclopedia Brown, and Batman!



WarioFan63 said:

As of right now, Hudson's site still says that Ys is out today, which means they didn't even know that Nintendo would do this at the last second.

It was like that back when Break In and Star Parodier were supposed to come out in July. They were left like that until the next update.



morphballer said:

Wow. This is too much! It's a good thing this is such a great summer for gaming, otherwise I'd probably be going crazy over this too.



Birdo said:

Oh well, I'm still getting the Master System version of Sonic, seeing that iv'e never actualy played it before.



DEMON212 said:

I really hate it when Ninty do this. Both of these games look meh at best. Sonic has no spin so it'll play as badly as Sonic 1, and Splatterhouse 2 looks identical to Slatterhouse one, but with a White mask.

And announcing the games that they announced just to release these instead, is just plain evil.

At least WWG still came out. It's a great game if you like those types of games.



Lemmy_the_Koopa said:

... and I guess, when you enter the Shopping channel and check the newest added games a NoA representee will pop-up on your screen, yelling "IT'S A ME! SURPRISE!" at you.

Pity everyone hoping for some scheduled release, but being led down by NoA.



Objection said:

Ouch. Right in the groin. These releases aren't horrible...but nowhere near what we expected. Damn indecisive Ninty.



Jon2 said:

This isn't good at all (not talking about the games here). If Nintendo keeps **'ing up like this the publishers will loose their patience and start saying no to releasing games on the VC. Nintendo needs to change their attitude or the VC will be a very short story.



blackknight77 said:

"Nintendo should probably make publishers keep their silence if they don't want to keep disappointing people."

I agree with Damo on this one.

Here is how Nintendo select VC games each week. A chimpanzee named Coco sits in his cage. A NOA rep shows Coco all of the games that could be released each week. Coco picks up a banana and slings it a his choice of games for the week. The NOA rep. says good choice Coco, here is another banana. And that is exactly how it works:) Coco is the VC selecting game monkey.



Rockman_90 said:


You are enterily right VC is a good idea and making me get intressed for the Wii in the first place and it would be really bad if this goes away.



uncle_smuck said:

Does anyone actually know who is in control of the VC? ( I still think the cat with the cheese on its head contols all!) As we all know Nintendo are the most secretive games company around and they NEVER EVER listen to fans. Is there actually any way they would listen or give in to fan pressure? Past instances show that the company has never ever given into nintendo owners. So is complaning about this a waste of time?

BTW I think the cat must be off sick or on holiday because even the cat never made a blunder like this.


@ tony Classic imagery! i snorted coffee out of my nose i laughed so much



Toad64 said:

Darn it, I was looking forward to Ys Book 1 and 2 today. Maybe next week.
...also Strong Bad on Wii Ware. Maybe next week.



Bahamut_ZERO said:


I was REALLY looking forward to this week too.

NOA probably went "Hey! Let's make them wait longer so they'll buy the terrible/decent games first! Yay Money!"



andy836 said:

you know i just got all these points to get all three games and they come out with this F***. The first time i was going to get a virtual console game.



Rapadash6 said:

My guess as to what happened; Nintendo purposely DIDN'T release any of the "confirmed" titles to discourage 3rd parties from announcing thier VC games early. Personally I have no problem with what happened today, as I'm just happy it isn't a SINGLE Neo Geo release. Plus I had both these games pegged as coming out this month anyway so I'm sure we'll see all those announced titles by the end of August. To be honest I knew three VC games being released in one update was far too good to be true, and I think all of you felt that too.



North99 said:

Wow. This sucks (compared to what was expected today). Nintendo won't get a cent of my money today, and I really think their PR guys need to go back to skool..

And by the way - if it wasn't for the fact that my hopes were up to get Megaman and the Ys games, I would absolutely have bought all 3 of these releases. But now I do not want to give any money/support to Nintendo this week.



Bass_X0 said:

"My guess as to what happened; Nintendo purposely DIDN'T release any of the "confirmed" titles to discourage 3rd parties from announcing thier VC games early."

That actually does make sense and sounds like something they would do.



Atlantis1982 said:

Fierce Deity, the 'crap' you been getting from the previous months really makes me green with envy: mainly with one game of course: Cho Aniki. To be honest, I don't think the US will ever get this game with what I have seen with the stupid morons in this country are complaining about Pong Toss and Fat Princess. (annoyed)

Sigh, don't mind me if I sound a bit rash or what not, but I am annoyed. Not that I didn't get Samurai Shodown 2, but the way communications between Nintendo and the other 3rd party companies. These two are decent games, but it's just a sour note.



North99 said:

@ Fierce .. I do not think we are being "ungrateful" today. We've just been disappointed/let down.



eltomo said:

Haha! I think this is funny!

I still cant understand why the people who are waiting for Mega Man in the US, just dont get the Mega Man Anniversary Collection for the Gamecube?



thewiirocks said:

Rapadash6 has it. The impression I've had with these failed confirmations is that Nintendo is intentionally trying to gum up the works to discourage publishers from giving dates. Thus in effect, the publishers need to STOP GIVING EXACT DATES because they're hurting our chances of getting great games.

Heck, we still haven't seen Parodier thanks to this misbehavior. Like it or not, Nintendo runs the VC service and publishers need to play by Nintendo's rules. If everyone would stop trying to do an end run around Nintendo, life would be better for all of us.

Of course, there is another explanation that is far more sinister. If publishers have pre-announced a game that has everyone excited, then WiiWare customers are engaged into buying mode when Monday comes. Thus Nintendo can make better profits off of VC titles that wouldn't otherwise sell by swapping out the releases. Then when they get around to releasing the title that everyone WANTED, they would still make those profits.

Such business practices are rather shady though, so I would hope that Nintendo is not engaged in such ventures.



blackknight77 said:

In totally unrelated news: I am enjoying Shinobi 3 and Fatal Fury. So I am still finding gems on the VC. And yes I still think Mega Man, Y's and SS2 will be out by the end of the month.

Or maybe we'll get new games like Mega Samurai or Y's Shodown



WarioFan63 said:

Im not ungrateful or dissapointed. Just befuddled.

Its like if I wanted a Hershey's Bar but got a Crunch Bar instead. Sure its not as good but Ill still take it.



DEMON212 said:

@ Bass.


@ El.

No offence but that's stupid. All you're doing by taking a break is, making it more likely that you'll miss something that you really want.

Say you stop checking for 3 months, you stop coming here and everything, and your most wanted game comes out 2 weeks after you've stopped checking. It means that you've went 10 weeks more than you had to for it.



Iggy said:

Wow i was expecting to download megaman today
and play it all day cuz im sick and got jack to do
thanks alot nintendo u could have just atleast gave
us one this is a huge dissapointment



Cocoa_Man5 said:

i personally didn't want any of the games that were "confirmed" for today, well maybe just samurai shodown ii, i also find it funny how everyone is saying that this will be the best VC month in 2008 and this happens.



DEMON212 said:

@ Bass.

Post 60. Haven't read anything before my first in here. Didn't have the time.



Tides_of_Chaos said:

Yeah, everybody was saying that 3 VC games and 1 WW game was too good to be true.....but absolutely none of the "confirmed" VC games came out today! This was probably a ploy just to get us to buy Wii points. Remember guys, Nintendo doesn't have your money when you download a game, but when you buy points.



WarioFan63 said:

i also find it funny how everyone is saying that this will be the best VC month in 2008 and this happens.

Hey I think its off to a pretty good start. And when you consider all the games that couldve come out today are probably coming in August anyway...

Also I dont believe these were released to prove a point to third parties. I posted some long ass theory elsewhere but I dunno if I should repeat it...



mr_w said:

@thewiirocks: That's exactly what I've been thinking. How many of us are going to buy Sonic or Splatterhouse today when we normally wouldn't have had we had been anticipating the 3 games promised. I'm sure Sonic and Splatterhouse are fine but neither appeal to me, especially when compared to Mega Man, Samurai Shodown II and Y's. But those of you out there who now have the "itch" to buy some VC titles are more likely to buy the two offerings this week for that very reason when you normally wouldn't have. NoA is creating an impulse buy situation.

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of NoA's crap. Yeah, they've been doing this for a while but we should NOT be getting used to it. Sure, it's just video games and there are more worthwhile endeavors out there but dammit this is a business and their actions are very unprofessional. Nintendo of Japan lay out their VC and WiiWare releases for the month, it is not unreasonable to expect NoA to adhere to the same standards. We should never cease our demands for good customer service from this or any other company that we willing give our money to.

And in case anybody for NoA reads this: Thank you for this week's offering. I will however, pass on these two VC titles and I will wait patiently until titles that I want are released. You will not be getting any "impulse buy" money from me.



Tides_of_Chaos said:

If you guys are sick of Nintendo's crap then stop complaining about it here and actually write them. NoA doesn't have time to read every comment on every article about the VC.



sadpanda212 said:

Well for once I actually agree that NA gamers are right to feel disappointed this week.

Whilst the 2 VC games are ok, compared to the 3 announced games they are a kick in the knickers. You can console yourselves with WWG which is a fantastic little light gun game, but that wont float everyones boat.

However it's not like Ninty haven't done this before, what with Parodier and Break In.

If I remember correctly the Developer of Pirates said that they had no control over when the game was to be released and had no idea when Ninty would allow the game to come out.

I predict these 2 games and maybe a random C64 game will make up the EU VC release on Thursday/Friday to last us 2 whole weeks.



Bass_X0 said:

even if you are disappointed with the VC, checking the site once a week takes only a few seconds.



Roo said:

Here's the deal: I'd rather have Sonic on MS than Mega Man. However, I'd rather not have Splatterhouse 2 at all. One of the worst MD games on Virtual Console for sure.



DarkMatter said:

I wasn't planning on buying any of the games that were set to come out today, but still. What gives, Nintendo?



mr_w said:

@Tides of Chaos: I have written them before. As for complaining, I was merely venting with other let down Nintendo customers.



stinssd said:

Nintendo should be careful about building up hopes just to dash them. Nevertheless, I'm already hardened into not expecting anything great for a year or two until the service is about dead. Then, they might release the good stuff en masse in addition to the good stuff that's already on tap.



The_Bear said:

I wasn't getting any of the games that were supposed to come out today. However, the ones that DID come out today... now I am going to have to buy. Damn, the VC is gonna make me broke.



will1 said:

"That's right Monkey, Play my head!!" LMAO...
I am so happy w/ my NDS right now I think I am going to play mega man 3 just to rub in the salt! =)
Just don't forget to forgive Ninty bcuz it is never their fault...



classicmike said:

@ eltomo: While I do think that is a good idea to just get the Mega Man Anniversary Collection just to get Mega Man 1-8 for about the price of a N64 game on the VC (I've got the collection when it first came out), people might not want all eight games, they just might want Mega Man 1&2, also the button combination is reversed (A is to fire, B is to jump) so maybe people want to play the game in its original button combination (A is to jump, B is to fire).



evilralfwiggum said:

Well that's odd! lol..I was debating over if I should download Ys I and II or Mega Man now I'm debating over if I should download Sonic or Splatterhouse 2..I probably won't..I might download DKC 2 now..or Harvest Moon..good thing there are good games I have yet to download. _;;



Kultist said:

Great. I'm not as surprised as if the games announced would have been released. I think I agree with Rapadash (#58). Nintendo is making sure they control absolutely everything on release schedule... So my eternal-skeptical-but-once-again-proven-right half thinks none of the games announced (MM1, Ys, etc.) are going to get released this month.
Meh. Should have know not to get my hopes too high. Well back to hating VC and expecting nothing out of it for the next few months
@DEMON : Remember you comment about you killing people complaining? How about aiming that at whoever is responsible of VC announcements and releases?



Draygone said:

Somewhere somebody made a mistake. And I find it highly suspicious that three different publishers would think their popular games would come out at the same time, so the source is very likely to be at Nintendo. How disappointing. And I was almost certain to buy at least one of the three announced games. But these two just don't compare. I'll pass.



megacody said:

It's okay. I've been disappointed by nintendo enough times to not be surprised. I'm just not buying until Starfox and Earthbound come out.



MorriganIsHot said:

Wow , Nintendo did this on purpose just to piss off alot of people but that's Nintendo for ya. once kirby super star ultra comes out on DS I won't even have to think about kirby dreamland 3 or anything coming to VC. I will get KDL3 whenever it comes out.



WarioFan63 said:

If it is Nintendo its more likely to be a "Wait that was the wrong date we gave you. IT WAS THE WRONG ONE." mistake then a "You fools! You told everyone! Prepare to be nuked!" mistake.

Scenerio: Someone at Nintendo sent a message to Sega, Capcom, SNK, and Hudson that all those games would be released on August 4, when they meant to say just August. Or at least just letting Sega know their games were coming August 4 which happened to get sent to everyone else.

Noone really knows what happened but it cant be as bad as some people are making it out to be. All these games will be released this month and we'll forget all about it.



Roboto said:

well im disapointed these game sucks
and why the post on the capcom blog about megaman was removed??
stupid bloger if its no true dont come to say that its confirmed your game..



Starwolf_UK said:


and why the post on the capcom blog about megaman was removed??
Probably because its going to turn into a flame war.

Now we know why NOA don't release monthly schedules of what will come out on the VC...they are so fickle it is pathetic. Lets tell everyone three days before that this will happen and change it on the'll drum up sales for other titles because people will visit the Wii shop thinking stuff they want is there.



Lugia2 said:

...Huh. I guess Nintendo of America is clamping down on anyone who gives advance notice.

Granted, this tactic will destroy the VC so that when SS2 and Ys are finally released in 2011 no one will care, but I don't think I can understand them anymore. SNK, Capcom, and Hudson must be really annoyed. All the games were ANNOUNCED by them, not rumored by some freak at NeoGAF; what kind of game is Nintendo playing?

This does not bode well for EarthBound...



Ricardo91 said:

Amazing. This article was just started a few hours ago and there's already 100 comments.

Yep, see I knew they were gonna do this. I just knew that this week sounded too good to be true. I just can't believe that Nintendo announce such high-profile titles, and give us games that aren't nearly of the same caliber. TWICE.
Well, I wanted Sonic SMS anyway, but I'm not impressed by SH 2. I think I'd rather get the original on the TG-16.
I guess the games we got instead are at least decent. After all, if Nintendo really wanted to be cruel, they would've given us Digital Champ and Super Pitfall.
At least we got WWG on WiiWare like I expected.

@Demon. Since we didn't get those wonderful titles we were promised, I don't think any killing will be required.

@David777. I think Shigeru Miyamoto said something once about Nintendo "Not giving gamers what they want." Giving the state of VC right now and pretty much the Wii in general, this theory seems to be alive and well.



blackknight77 said:

You figure if we get 2 games a week for the rest of August there is enough room for Mega man, Y's, SS 2 ,Break In, Star P., and at least one more game.



Andrew said:

I knew it had to be true. There were too many optimistic posts on this site in the last few days. Something had to go awry.

As much as I don't want to say it, I can't trust any pre-release news stories from this site anymore since it's all up in the air. I'll believe a release when I see it on Monday.



CanisWolfred said:

This doesn't make much sense, why'd they give us the Master System of Sonic before Europe got it? This update looks more like whay I was expecting for the EU update. Maybe Europe will wind up getting SSII and Ys.

Well, I started to worry about how I was going to play so many games now I don't have to. I just hope we do see those games sometime this month, I got really excited about Samurai Shodown II, but now they're crushed. My only question is: why did those companies send out press releases "confirming" their games, yet the update had nothing to do with them? And how did they come to the conclusion that it was their game that was coming out in the first place? There's some serious miscommunication going on here.

Oh well, all I know is my Wii point card is going to be collecting some dust until Ys and SSII actually come out.



elbo21 said:

I should have known it was too good to be true -- it's my fault for getting my hopes up. F*** you, Nintendo.



blackknight77 said:

Neo Turf is what I'm thinking too. Wii are on the same page with that one

But if NOA wants to fill up the VC with 2d Sonic that is fine by me:) Also I think the VC guy in the you tube video needs to speak about what happened today



AtTheDriveIn92 said:

I know it's hard being dissapointed (i think this release was quite good) and feeling lied too. I have found the remedy though...Final Fantasy Tactics A2, you'll forget the VC even exists



JiggyGF said:

Oh, look. Nintendo fails at marketing and establishing good third-party relationships yet again. :/



Jon2 said:

I think there's another twist to this matter that no one here has mentioned.
We all know that company X owns the rights to a certain game (X=any publisher for example Capcom). The easiest way for Nintendo to get hold of old games and publish them on the VC is to make a license agreement with company X.
A license agreement always involves a contract. When two companies makes a contract there's always some negotiation concerning the details in the contract.
I'll bet some money that one clausal in that contract is that the company in question doesn't say anything about a specific release date.
Now this is what happened:
1. Capcom knows that Mega Man is going to be released i August. Either they have a specific date from someone at Nintendo or (more likely) they have talked to someone at NoA that didn't really know but gave them a date anyway.
2. NoA already has a timetable for the VC. The games above were supposed to be released on august the 4th and nothing else.
3. Capcom talks wide and loud about their Mega Man release (which isn't coming but they don't know that, yet).
4. NoA hears what Capcom is saying and takes action.

You see, one of those clausal in the contract said that if the company in question talked wide and loud about a release date they would be sued.

5. Thats what NoA's lawyers did. They called up Capcom and said "WTF are you doing? Take that away or we will sue your * off".

So there you have it. My theory, and a wall of text



WarioFan63 said:

Oh dammit, this was NOT a last minute decision it was NOT meant to bring down early releas-forget it. Apparently theres no bright light at the end of the tunnel for everyone else on The Internet. Its always the worst case scenerio this and that. Every video game company is some sort of evil monster trying to make everyone mad. I dont understand what the gaming community is coming to these days. Im sick of trying to calm The Internet down week after week, so I think Ill take this one off.



Ricardo91 said:

@Atlantis1982. I heard it in an issue of Game Informer, which I just dug out:

"One thing about my game design is that I never try to look for what people want and then try to make that design"

I was apparently quite different from what I remembered. He referred more to his personal style of game design than Nintendo's marketing strategies.

I have an idea. How about the next time when VC-R creates a pre-release article that says were getting 3 high-profile games that week, we use reverse psychology and bitch and complain about it? That way, Ninty will think they are disappointing us again and release those games, which we actually want, though we said we didn't want them. Who's with me?



CanisWolfred said:


I find Avanced Wars: Days of Ruin, Rogue Galaxy, R-Type Final, Elite Beat Agents, Shadow of the Colossus, Super Mario Sunshine, Star Fox Adventures, Star Fox Assault, Silpheed: Lost Planet, Geometry Wars: Galaxies, Super Mario Galaxy, Okami, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Breath of Fire 2, Shining Force, *huff, huff* Wipeout Pure, Daxter, Gradius Collection, Crush, Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Star Soldier R, Defend Your Castle, and Gyrostarr all combine to make a great substitute to FFTA2.



Kreegs07 said:

I think this is really funny. I know everyone is sick of waiting, but stay patient. You can complain, but no one will hear you. Just sit back and relax. I am sure you can find something else to hold you over.



Ricardo91 said:

@Mickeymac & AtTheDriveIn. I'm good with Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Pokemon Diamond, Harvest Moon, Defend Your Castle, FFIII DS, Paper Mario, SSB Brawl, Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda: TP, Sega Genesis Collection, and OoT Master Quest, among others(!). =)

I wish I still had my PS2.



firebrand said:

Ironically, Splatterhouse 2 has been on my wishlist for over a year now. But yeah, I understand why people are annoyed. Bait and switch. Kind of like when Nintendo told me that the Wii was a game system instead of a glorified toy.



Corbs said:

Hey at least it's two good games. I just got back and saw the Virtual Console announcement from Nintendo and thought that maybe I had just come out of a coma or something.



Mendez said:

If only this was the EU update!
These are 2 of just 4 or so games I want on VC that look they'll be coming over the next few months.
Looking back at the news stories the last VC game that actually got me excited by it's release was Kirby 64 on March 7th...



CanisWolfred said:

As much as I love Sonic, I got my point card for a specific purchase, and I don't want to waste them, even if it's on a Sonic game. As for Splatterhouse 2, it looks too slow and clunky for my tastes.Thankfully I'm still playing the VC games I got last week, plus a gazillion other games that were already mentioned, so I'll live.



FalcoLombardi said:

Nintendo never said those games were coming out today so stop complaining! They never said Kid Icarus was going to be shown at E3 either. This is all bad reporting from websites like IGN. Stop blaming Nintendo! Sweet chicken!



CanisWolfred said:

Well actually, it was the companies themselves who said their games were coming out today, but turned out to be false. My head hurts too much to speculate why those press releases were made, but I'd assume somebody told them they were suppose to be here today.



blackknight77 said:

What would be great is if everyone was expecting Break In or some medicore title, but Nintendo releases Vectorman and Strider ( or any amazing game intsead) Those are the suprises we like:)



Ricardo91 said:

Even if we DID get those games we were expecting today, I wouldn't be able to buy any of them anyway, since I'm down to 300 Wii points and my pre-paid credit card is completely drained. Not counting the 2 games I removed, I have 25 VC games as of now, and yet there's still dozens of games on the service that I still haven't gotten to buy yet. Gradius III, Super Castlevania IV, Starfox 64, Dragon's Curse and Startropics to name a few. Because of this, I'm actually not that mad about the VC release scedule mix-up. <Ducks head>

But I'm still not happy about it either.



Corbs said:

Well it just goes to show you. This is Nintendo's world, we all just live here.



Mike1 said:

Who cares about either of these two games. I've played this Sonic version. I'll pass, the original Sonic the Hedgehog on the Genesis is so much better. Splatterhouse 2 blows compared to the original. But seriously guys, if you don't want anything, please don't "impulse" buy. Why give Nintendo your money when they treat their customers like crap.

Did anyone ever think that maybe that the pre-release anouncements were authorized by Nintendo so people would be duped into buying Wii Point cards?



Cally said:

I know what would be perfect: These companies go to MS or Sony to get their games released on XBLA or PSN . Streets of Rage 2, Sonic 1 and 2 and some other games made it to XBLA (which mostly sucks as is). What was the first rule of business, again? "Give the people what they want"?



RevolverLink said:

Why did I bother getting my hopes up this week? I'm never getting hyped before VC Monday ever again.



ChocoDK said:

Umm well I was only thinking of getting that Ys I & II since it looked interesting. I got Mega Man Anniversary Collection on the PS2 so Mega Man didn't matter to me and I don't care about Samurai Showdown II. But this does suck but there is a lessen to be learnt don't believe everything you read.

Really does suck though for a lot of people and I still got 1900 Wii Points on my VC. Also still bought no Wii Ware games and am dissapointed at the amount of Wii Ware games that come out weekly.



MaxPlastic said:

sighs I haven't downloaded a VC game in about three months now, which is strange since I used to be the guy DLing at least one VC title a week. I've also completely written off WiiWare. But I have been playing the Hell outta my DS!



MaxPlastic said:

Also I gotta say... Yeah it is Nintendo's fault and even the third parties' fault to some extent, but sites like this one and the gamers I think can be partly to blame. With all the hype and "confirmations," no wonder we're all disappointed. Why would you buy Wii points in anticipation of a game? Wait until you see it on the Shop Channel. Also, don't forget: It's Nintendo's Wii, not the Hudson Wii, SNK Wii, or Capcom Wii. If Nintendo doesn't say anything about a game, don't expect it to happen



Virus said:

I laughed out loud today when I saw the VC releases. I found it so god-awful ironic that I couldn't help it. Not a single "confirmed" release made it! Oh the hilarity!

I must say I'm a little disappointed but I'm not going to blame this on anyone and definitely not on Nintendo. For this week, I'll suck it up because we still got two games that a great deal of people will enjoy. There's not much we can do anyway.

I think the three other games will find their way onto the VC this month eventually. Still, I think people should walk away from this with two lessons learned: the VC is as random as life even with "confirmed" releases and August is going to be one heck of month in terms of surprises.

EDIT: We got our first "M" game too. Cheers for violence on the Wii.



Knux said:


Would it kill Nintendo to start giving out release dates for VC games at least 2 days before they come out? I wouldn't be surprised if SNK,Hudson Soft,and Capcom quit developing games for Nintendo after this disaster.

But Sonic MS and Wild West Guns sound pretty good. Although I have the Sonic Mega Collection Plus for the Xbox 360 that includes the Game Gear version of Sonic MS.

I just moved so now I don't have a way to connect the Wii to the Internet,but I should be able to in a few weeks. I just hope they release Ys Book I&II or Super Mario RPG by then.



Airola said:

I'd say most of the Wii owners who buy Virtual Console games every now and then didn't even know to expect Mega Man & co. They just check the new games once a week or once a month or once in two months etc and buy something if they're interested without getting much disappointed if there isn't anything interesting available. It's not like Nintendo is trying to make the fans feel bad. And remember, it's only a game. If your expectations grow so high with these games that when you don't get what you were waiting for you are extremely disappointed and cursing companies to hell, I just wonder how you manage to deal with life. It must be a hell of a stress.

You guys are such geeks and otakus here

100% true.



Ricardo91 said:

I agree w/ Maxplastic and Virus. Even though the games we got this week weren't what we expected, at least they were decent. And contrary to what SOME people on this site may think, I guess there is a life beyond VC.

Damn It's rough out there for a geek.

Edit: I'm surprised Rexy isn't here yet.



7th_lutz said:

I wasn't sure about the games confirmed by SNK Playmore, Hudson and Capcom a first place. The first thing that got me was Hudson confirmed games last month and we didn't 2 of the games.

It didn't sound right with 3 vc games being release in 1 week in North America either.

All of us need to ingore 3rd party publishers "confirming vc games" before Monday.



timp29 said:

Thats pretty lame by Nintendo. You would think a "professional" company would control press releases, especially if they are going to be incorrect. Well done nintendo, you f**ked up!
Sorry yankees, thats major harsh by nitendo :/ Hopefully next week is best week ever with 5 awesome games lol.
Maybe nintendo is saving up to have the awesomest VC week of all time



PHANTOM93 said:


Maybe not the "awesomest vc week of all time" but the "awesomest vc month of all time"

@ Mr. Cheez

It's not so rough if you use cheat codes on life



Lugia2 said:

Too. Many. Posts.

Okay, everyone here make a pact: do not buy wii points until the game you want comes up. Do not pay for Wii points until the game you want comes up. EB announced? Pay when it comes. Majora? Same. We are not going to fool around with this. Agreed?



Ghouls_n_Ghosts said:

@ 132. Mike

That's what I did. As soon as I woke up, I checked before I went out to buy the points card. Good thing I didn't get it.



punchout87 said:

Well, all in all it's still a great VC day. Sonic on the Master System is fun and different enough from the Genesis version to warrant 5 bucks, and Wild West Guns is easily the best Wii Ware game available right now. As far as my VC wishlist goes though, how about some Super Punchout? That would make up for a year of weak games!



Knux said:


Because people would at least know what games are coming out so they can buy Wii points in advance for the games if they want to.

Some people here had bought points because they thought that Samurai Shodown II,Ys Book I&II,and Mega Man were coming out this Monday. If I had a internet connection to the Wii right now, I might have bought Wii points in advance for Ys Book I&II.

Because,I feel like these surprise VC releases are just another way for NOA to get more money in their big wallets,not to mention they already have TONS of money from people buying Wiiware and VC games. Nintendo of Japan has a monthly VC schedule,why can't NOA do the same thing?

By the way,WHERE is Yoshi's Island!?



Rexy said:

I know that there are people that seem let down by this week, but if you ask me, I'd grab Sonic 1 SMS in a heartbeat. You can't call either game worthless just because you're hyped over a bunch of other games that you were expecting.

I'm not saying that any of the three main hyped games are bad - I have Mega Man 2, and I'm equally anticipating the Ys titles. It's just that it's one of those weeks, and unless we actually get a decent understanding concerning the VC's review schedule, then the routine is turning into a bigger algebra equation than once anticipated.



Airola said:

Why people should buy Wii Points in advance when they could do it after the games are released? What's the point in doing so? It saves time? Hardly.

Well okay, I've bought some points in advance myself. I did it because I want to have some points in my account when Mega Man 9 is released as I'll start my studies soon and don't necessarily be able to buy points for a long time. And if it for some reason doesn't get released at all, I still have the points and will be able to buy some other games or just wait for something to be released.

It's interesting to see the monthly schedule of Japanese VC games but I feel that if I'd be able to see what games will be coming each month it wouldn't take away a lot of fun from Mondays and Fridays when I'm awaiting for the update. It's much more fun to be surprised than to know beforehands what we are going to get. It's like Christmas presents. Knowing what's inside every box takes a lot out of the fun of finally opening them. Even if the presents wouldn't be great.



blackknight77 said:

I did not know there is life outside of the VC. In fact today I found a strange slot in the front of my Wii console. I glows blue and I can put these disc things in there and a game pops up. I can play the games too. WoW! It the most amazing thing.

Anyway Mario Kart always cures my VC blues



Virus said:

I don't think these surprise releases are secret strategies for Nintendo to get money. Yes, you're right that many people bought points ahead of time to get the three "confirmed" games, but most of those people will still just wait for those games and not buy any more points until they get those games. Nintendo would've probably gotten more money if they released those three games. Mega Man, c'mon, the world would go crazy. Samurai Shodown II? Many people would buy it just because it looks almost like Soul Calibur. Ys? Hey, it's two games in one. No, personally, I don't think this was a plan by Nintendo. If they're trying to get more money, this isn't how they would do it.

I must note though, I do see your point. I wouldn't mind a monthly release schedule either.



ColorblindMonk said:

It's like Nintendo's just picking titles out of a jar. Really, they have no real order over their digital distribution.



timp29 said:

Yeah it could have been worse. Nintendo could have somehow collapsed overnight and we could have no more VC period



mattrob24 said:

Knowing the arrogance of Nintendo, they probably released different games to thumb their noses at gamers and give the publishers a "slap on the wrist" for leaking release information. "We'll show you, pitiful game publishers! We are the almighty, can-do-no-wrong NINTENDO!!!!!"



StarDust4Ever said:

Congratulations Nintendo of America, not only have you proven that your capacity to lie is only trumped by your stock-hoard of un-rereleased games, but you have made fools of your partner companies like Hudson by lying to them as well.

Stop rolling dice, as sooner or later, those dice have landed on "FAIL". Well, at least now sonic fans will be happy with this wonderful little gem, but you didn't deliver what you promised. sure, Sonic can run and chase after you till Kingdom-Come, but Megaman shoots to kill. Nintendo, consider this your warning.......

P.S. - I hope Y's puts a Hex on you



CanisWolfred said:

The funny thing is, I passed up a lot of good games so I could spend my store credit on a Point card. I was planning on trying my hand at fighting games, and there was Soul Caliber II right there, but noooo, I wanted Samurai Shodown II to be my first fighting game. And there were a gazillion copies of FFX and FFFXII for a reasonable price, and I always wanted to know what the hub-bub was about. Sadly, having said the same for Ys, I decided to just kill two birds with one stone with the Wii point card.

Oh well, I also got some other great games along with the point card, so I'll have plenty to do by the time SS2 and Ys do come, and at least I'm now prepared.



HVGN_Nerd said:

OMG guys!
Now I don't have any games to download to my system which doesn't have any available space and.....well that's the worst solution to the HD problem ever guys!
In all super serialness though I'm pissed.
So pissed.
I want Mega Man.
Good thing it's released in my pc as soon as I hit enter!



yoda87960 said:

I now have an xbox 360 don't have money for Earthbound anymore. Way to miss the boat, Nintendo! That eight dollars is Microsoft's now.



Iggy said:

i had a feeling ppl would go crazy
i was dissapointed but picked up Neutopia
sense ive been wanting that for a while
hopefully mega-man comes next monday
that would be sweet



deadbattery said:

I'm betting that next week, Nintendo will release NO games, just for the lulz. Or maybe even REMOVE some good games from the store! The sick possibilities are endless. Nintendo is like that parent who promised to take you to the toy store, but took you to the dentist instead.



4rainertunes said:

Where in the hell is Y's 1 & 2?? I spent all day at work daydreaming about playing that game tonight. Even the publisher's website says Y's "is out" in the the US today!! Burned again.



Corbs said:

@ Iggy - You picked a fine game in Neutopia. One of my all-time favorite TG16 games. Enjoy!



Bahamut_ZERO said:

Good news is I get to keep Kid Icarus for another week

And Corbie this is off topic, but I'm new to SHUMPS, what's a good game to start?



PHANTOM93 said:

This is a bit off topic but: What's a good 2 player game for the vc that still has a good 1p mode? (I ask because all of my VC games are one player)



Surgical_Precision said:


Can't help but wonder why they would chose to release SMS Sonic instead of finishing up the Genesis outings with Sonic & Knuckles first...

Vary random day... Almost to random...

I'm sorry but to me as lame as I'm sure this sounds, this list just totally reeks of "last minute slapped together" residue...

I just can't help but think someone at Nintendo just didn't do their job on time...

You can almost see exactly what the poor SOB was thinking when he made the damn update...

"Uh... Oh... OK!... SONIC!!! Kids LOVE Sonic!... DAMN they're not done with S&K yet!... Ah hell its SONIC, no one cares... ok...
Now... I'll have to find something completely random from a different console so management won't suspect anything... Slaughter House 2 huh?... It's so insanely obvious there's NO WAY they'd ever suspect I actually did it on purpose!... And finally... Come on... I need something that looks like it might make use of the Wii Zapper... PERFECT!! I, AM, A, FREAKING, GENIUS!!!! Looks like I'll be coming back to work tomorrow after all!..."



Virus said:

@Surgical Precision
I don't mean to make you feel any less disappointed about today's releases (by all means, stay disappointed if you are--it was unexpected), but I don't think today's releases were that random. On July 21, VCR posted an article about both SMS Sonic and Splatterhouse 2 being rated by the ESRB. So technically, seeing them together isn't too random. As for WWG, it came out in Europe so it is only logical to assume it'd come out soon for the US.

And now I'm questioning why I'm trying to defend today's releases.



Objection said:

I think the most interesting thing about this week's releases is that Splatterhouse 2 is the first M rated VC game. Hopefully this will open some doors...



alxtlvra said:


I still think Nintendo keeps falling to the bottom letting down not only their costumers, but also their licensees, with this dumb fashion of keeping in secret the vc releases and lately lying about confirmations to the licensees. Maybe they want to teach to 3rd parties not to confirm games by the hardway, and Nintendo is going to succeed on this because 3rd patries wont have anything to confirm if they get tired of this attitude and stop supporting the vc.

There were decent games out there, in fact if Sonic for SMS or other big name game hadnt been released instead of the confirmed games consecuences would have been waaay harder. Worth noting also is the fact of the first M rated game for vc (I could be wrong here) which widens the chances to see more games with that rating or in any other way controversial on vc, I'd love to see the import of NES Devil's World to America.

Of course this doesnt make up for their fault but some people prefer this games than the ones annonced and as for me I also feel that let down but I am getting used to this when speaking about Nintendo. (E3, Star parodier delayed, decreasing vc and first party games).



Corbs said:

@ Bahamut - Either Lords of Thunder or Gate of Thunder. Both are top shelf and easy enough for anyone to play.



Surgical_Precision said:

(@Mickeymac) Amen to that... ;_;

(@Virus) Well don't get me wrong... Seeing the actual SMS Sonic 1 after all these years is a reason to celibate IMO... But not so much with the other stuff...

Splatter House 2 being the first M rated game on VC is also kinda neat but honestly... Do we REALLY need to see what made people scared over 10 years ago...?

Now if we somehow got to see an A rating THEN I could understand why I'm currently not playing Ys...

Though surviving the backlash of the earth being split in two because of the massive violation to the laws of reality is another story...



Ricardo91 said:

@Bahamut. Soldier Blade is also a good choice. The first few levels are very forgiving, and even a novice could progress through them on normal mode w/o much problems. Which I found great, as I suck at Sh'mups.

@Alxtvra. I'd also love to have Devil World on VC. I downloaded a ROM for it a long time ago, and still haven't found a proper emulator for it yet.
Anyway, I've learned now to keep my expectations low every week. If you have high hopes for the releases every week, the disappointment is just gonna hit harder.



Stuffgamer1 said:

I wasn't actually looking forward to any of the announced releases either (don't want Samurai Shodown, have Mega Man Anniversary Collection, and don't really want any RPG no matter how good further displacing any hope of Mario RPG or Earthbound), but I was still mad to find out that not a one of them had been released (I feel for you guys who do care).

As I just suggested, my main interests for the future of VC are Super Mario RPG, Earthbound, and various classic Enix games (yeah, right! Frickin' Squenix and their "we hate VC" policies!). Until some of those are announced, I won't really be getting very exited about VC games.

I'm confused about something else, though. I read a few months ago that in a study that included dozens of companies, Nintendo ranked in the lower 9% for listening to their customer's desires. That's not too surprising, but the weird thing was that I was sure Nintendo responded with a promise and/or plan to improve that. Maybe I imagined it. Excrement!



Lefty_Noob said:

@ 158. Rexy
I'm sure both games are fine. But you know, sometimes when someone tells you you're going to have steak, you get your mouth all set for steak. And then... whoops! No steak, have some chicken instead. Sure, chicken's good, but you had your heart set on steak. Of course you're gonna be disappointed. Well, that's how I feel with Ys.

I definitely plan on getting Wild West Guns down the road, but that's not the gaming "flavor" I had my mouth all set for this week, you know?



Mike1 said:

I will say this. I assume Mega Man 9 is going to be released on the PS3 and 360 in September. The game better not get released on those systems, while Nintendo holds the release back in order to give us more shovelware WiiWare games. That would be a very stupid mistake!



HVGN_Nerd said:

yup cuz anyone like me who has a ps3 or 360(me) also,
is going to buy it on that system...
possibly i would wait a little no more than 1 month cuz the wii mote is more like a nes controller



TheLuigiDude said:

Aiiih...sooooooo sleepy, sorry I partied a little too much I guess (no alcohol or other drugs were involved)

August 4th was my B-day and I was EXTREMELY excited that on my B-day I was going to get to purchase Samurai Shodown II (as I've never owned a Neo Geo so I could only play it in arcades), Ys I & II since I always hear TGCD owners rave about it, and ultimately a new CLASSIC Mega Man game (sorry I drooled at the thought of a new good Mega Man, no offense to either games)! That was going to be awesome and my friends and I were going to have a Mega Man 9 gaming fest, but then when I woke up my smile was crushed by the fact of seeing Wild West Guns appear instead of Mega Man 9. WTF?! SERIOUSLY? Now if it was Twist n' Paint (anybody remember that game?) that'd make me even happier (I'm sure someone's cursing my name right now), but instead I get WiiShovelWare. Nice.

But at least I could have a Samurai Shodown gaming fest to counter that, that'd be fun! Right? Nope! Instead there was...Sonic the Hedgehog 8-bit. Okay I'll be honest sure its a good port, because it took the original in an different direction. But let's not fool ourselves, the only people who will buy this game are diehard Sonic fans. Everyone else will buy the Genesis version (sorry, Genesis>Mega Drive; much cooler name...if totally ripped off) which is much better I assure you.

BUT at least I'll be able to play an interesting Action RPG that every TGCD owner MUST own so I don't have to get one of those things yet, but NO NoA mocks me by shoving SplatterHouse 2 in my face. Now that one isn't as...(what's the word I'm looking for)...dedicated maybe to super fans of the series, but SplatterHouse 2 is sadly a watered down sequel to a fun game. A shame really because as Mr. Duyn wrote, it isn't really the game's fault, more like the system. I just hope we get SplatterHouse 3, because while I haven't personally played it, I did hear it was a stellar title!

Seriously Nintendo this is bull, you completely ruined probably the BEST VC day in the history of the console...or at least for this year, which would've been my B-day making it even cooler...but you pushed these games on us? Really?

I kind of hate it when all the comments on this website are people whining over the releases (while sometimes they may be true, it got old fast...especially those wanting a certain game...), but today I can't help but join them especially due to the hype this day had.

THOUGH then again, who's fault is it? Nintendo's or the three publishers who hyped us so badly? Either way NoA should really get some nuts and stop rumors before the fans become pissed. Reggie already doesn't have a big fanbase with us hardcore Nintendo gamers, but if this keeps up he may be hated more than Arnold S. (I can never spell it), the governer of Califronia (trust me...I live there).

Oy, I need some sleep so, like Virus once said, "If this isn't proof I need sleep then I dunno what is!" Seriously gold dude.



Adamant said:

The Master System Sonic and the Mega Drive Sonic are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAMES. Is it really that hard to get into your skulls, people?



CanisWolfred said:


That would've been so cool, I can't even fathom how disappointed you must be! I mean, the best VC update of the Year on your birthday! And yet they change it. If it were me, I would have thrown the TV out the window once I saw Sonic SMS and Splatterhouse 2 there instead. I hope after some rest it blows over for ya. Night!


Yes, but it still isn't as fun. Though, Sonic1(Genesis) is my second favorite Sonic game, and I found the level design of the SMS version paled in comparison.



Adamant said:

Oh, I certainly agree with you there (the original Mega Drive Sonic is my favorite game in the entire series), but the Master System game is still good fun. Not buying one because you have the other is just silly, since they're completely different. It's like not buying Super Mario Land because you own Super Mario Bros.



Stuffgamer1 said:

@Bahamut ZERO: Yeah, Enix is awesome. I meant stuff like Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia, though. Stuff they'll never remake. You do know that the upcoming DS remake of Dragon Quest IV squashes all hopes of a VC release, right?



Adamant said:

I'm sure we'll see more non-DQ Enix games on the VC. They've already given us the awesometastic ActRaiser, surely there must be more on the way (Soul Blazer, please).



Ricardo91 said:

@Bahamut ZERO. The chances of Squenix actually releasing their classic RPGs (especially one as epic for it's time as DQ IV) at a bargain price of 5-8 dollars is something that's never gonna happen. You know them: They'd much rather milk their triple-A games for all they're worth by remaking them at 10-6 times the price you could get them on VC, while adding one new dungeon or something and tweaking the graphics. However, I'm all for Squenix releasing their "lesser" games on the service, like Soul Blazer. Actraiser is the shiznit!



CanisWolfred said:

Personally, I want to see Terranigma on the VC. The story was pretty good, not to mention unique, and the combat was superb! The dungeons were challenging, but in a good way. Most of all, it did what few other RPGs were capable of doing: hooking me immediately and keeping me hooked, which alone garners a high amount of praise. I'm surprised nobody ever mentions it, but it certainly adds hope that it will one day come to the Virtual Console!



Ricardo91 said:

^I'm sure most people aren't aware that Terranigma exists, especially Americans, since, according to Wikipedia, it was never released in America. As for the Europeans involved, they were probably to preoccupied talking about Dragon Warrior/Quest to bring it up.



CanisWolfred said:


Well that explains it! Too bad it was never released in America, it was pretty damn good! I guess it'll be an import, which adds weight to the idea that it won't be remade, and instead come to the Virtual Console!



Rockman_90 said:

I Know this is of topic but i just want to say to HVGN your videos are very good i like the way you bring up good games. like the latest nightshade i have never heard of that game before but know i do and a game i will download from the vc when it comes out if it even does so. When star tropics went out to the vc here in EU (Sweden) i downloaded it and i am very happy that i did that. Keep up the good work with your video reviews i am wondering what kind of good game you bring up next??



Bass_X0 said:

"That was going to be awesome and my friends and I were going to have a Mega Man 9 gaming fest, but then when I woke up my smile was crushed by the fact of seeing Wild West Guns appear instead of Mega Man 9. WTF?! SERIOUSLY?"

Seriously. Its not due to come out yet, dude.



Rexy said:

I could be angry, but most of the time I'd tend to direct my anger towards people hating certain VC weeks altogether because it's not the games that they want, rather than the qualty of the games in question (the whole Bio Miracle debacle keeps coming to mind here >.>).

@ Lefty Noob, comment #191: You've got a good theory concerning the steak and chicken scenario, so I appreciate that. But in the past, I'd rather get hyped by seeing if a certain game I'd take interest in is on the VC, watching footage of it, understanding what it's about and still deciding to go for it a few days later. I know some people aren't like that at all, but it's just a way of seeing it.

Besides, wouldn't it be nicer if Ys at least got a PEGI/OFLC rating too, so that us outside the Americas won't have to linger in the dark over how it is?



blackknight77 said:

Anyone want to work on a Press release for Majora's mask and Earthbound? Try to release it and really make the big N mad.



TheLuigiDude said:

I'm angry enough and I write rants for my local teen newspaper whenever there isn't a good game coming out. But I'm no AVGN...he's funny, but he gets old after a while.

@ Adamant:
Yeah I know that the SMS system version is different, the Genesis version is totally better. SML is a totally different game when you REALLY look into it, different styling becauses its not Miyamoto. But honestly, you know I'm right; only the Sonic hardcore will truly buy this game.

@ Mickeymac
Totally thanks for feeling my pain here, that would have been the awesomest B-day ever. Yeah but I had fun we played some other oldschool games like Blastworks (okay that's not oldschool, but every Wii owner should get it! GOLD!!), Ikaruga (the ultimate GC version), Street Fighter Alpha II Gold (Off of the Saturn's Street Fighter Collections...awesome), and some Brawl and the likes. I had fun. Though I totally agree with you on the SMS version of Sonic.

BTW I have no idea about Terranigami or whatever! WHAT IS THAT GAME? Is it that awesome?



Bass_X0 said:

Its just a typical SNES RPG thats the sequel to Illusion of Time/Gaia that was never released in america.

i preferred Illusion of Time.



CanisWolfred said:

Well I never played Illusion of Time, so to me Terranigma was awesome. I only played 2 levels, so I'll admit to being more than a little over excited, sorry. I still think it's pretty cool though, and it is rare that I like so much of an RPG right from the start, usually I'm bored with 'em until I get the second level, so I feel that a game that hooks me right from the get- go is indeed worth a fair amount of praise.

Well, I'm over this whole schtic. I'm a diehard Sonic Fan, so I'll probably wind up with Sonic SMS sooner or later, and I now realize that there are a TON of games on the VC that I want, so the new ones simply would've meant that it would take even longer for me to adress the backlog. I'm still disappointed that Samurai Shodown 2 didn't come out, but mainly because it would've meant that I would've broken into two genres on the same day.

Oh, and I got Blastworks last week. I even passed up Battalion Wars 2, which is on my the tip-top of my Wii wishlist, in order to get my hands on it, and it pretty damn great! At least, it is with a friend anyways. You'd be surprised by some of the stuff a group of people can come up with when given the right tools.

Unfortunately, no matter how much imagination I tell myself I have, when given the tools to apply that imagination, the wheels in my head stop turning, and only with the help of another human being can I get those wheels turn again. To be frank, the stuff I created was G-D awful and wholly uninspiring, but with some help from my brother, they became less awful, and less uninspiring.

Mostly though, we just wound up kicking arse in the campain levels. They aren't the best shooter levels I played, heck the levels in the original flash game were better than some of the ones we played, and with only one player, it's unequivocally dull. But one you second player in there, things really pick up and it becomes a blast! Shame the ordinary campaign doesn't have 4-player co-op, but it is nice to see that they left it in the user created levels.

All in all, I'm glad I got it, and I really glad that you got to play it in a party setting, since it really is a party-oriented game.

Wow, that was a lot more than I was intending to write, but I think it was worth it.

I'll try to hold off spending my points until this coming Monday, but my guess is I'll probably wind up picking something from that backlog I mentioned earlier. Until then, I'll be playing games that actually run on a disc Astonishing, I know!



Sharecrow said:

I am okay with Squenix "milking" their classic RPG's as long as they actually do it. I'll definitely be buying the DW IV remake when it comes out. And I'll even have to get a new DS to do it (which I'll do) because my last one was jacked or perhaps lost. I'm still going to do it. That being said, I'd be one of the jokers that would still download the original on the VC if they ever released it just to play the original since I never did. Now that would be milking, but I doubt they will ever do it due to concerns about losing sales on the remake. Let's face it, though, I don't think they would lose much but I don't have readily available evidence to support my feeling that way....

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