It's a placeholder price for a game that is allegedly not releasing until late 2027, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.
With that being said, I would absolutely expect Pokemon Winds/Waves to be one of the Nintendo games that retails at $70 digital/$80 physical or equivalent. Same with the next 3D Mario, 3D Zelda, Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, etc
It would be irresponsible to say otherwise, market conditions can always get worse. Both Sony and Microsoft have raised the price of their hardware multiple times, Nintendo isn't insulated from that reality.
"We sincerely apologize to our customers for the considerable inconvenience and trouble this will cause. While we wanted to prioritize a wide adoption, it was challenging to bear the rising costs over a long period. The (new) pricing does not fully account for all cost increases.
So even with the $50/€30/¥10000 price increase, the new price still doesn't fully make up for the increase in costs.
It's not a shock to see the lower 2nd fiscal year forecast, the Switch 2 sold at a record-smashing pace during its first fiscal year (first 10 months), but is now getting a price increase, which is something that has never happened before for any prior Nintendo console.
Switch 1 sold 17 million units during its 2nd full fiscal year (year ending March 2019), so Switch 2 selling 16.5 million units during equivalent period launch-aligned despite the much higher price and more turbulent global economic situation is still a very good number.
US got the expected $50 increase while Europe "only" got a 30€ increase. Not good but not terrible, my fear was a ~$100 increase like what happened to the PS5 last month.
However, Japan is getting screwed - the price of the Switch 2 going up by a whopping ¥10000. Switch 2 is now 2× the price of the Switch 1 back in 2018.
Did anyone get any information on who is developing this game?
The easy assumption would be Good-Feel since they developed Yoshi's Woolly World and Crafted World, but they also developed Princess Peach Showtime which launched in 2024. If they were able to release Yoshi and the Mysterious Book just 2 years later, that would be very impressive, especially if the game turns out to be really good.
Bandai Namco's support for Switch 2 has been extremely lackluster, with minimal improvement from their Switch 1 support.
Elden Ring on Switch 2 was delayed without a release date, but preorders are now open, but there is only the $80 Tarnished Edition SKU (with no $60 SKU for the base game only)
Dragon Ball Sparking Zero was a late port, and its DLC still hasnt launched on Switch 1/2
Digimon Time Stranger will launch was a late port on Switch 1/2, even though several prior Digimon games launched Day 1 on Switch 1
Dragon Ball Xenoverse will now skip the Switch 2 at launch, much like every Dragon Ball game on Switch 1.
Other Japanese 3rd party publishers like Capcom and Square Enix have fully embraced the Switch 2 with far more technically/visually demanding games - there really isnt any reason why Bandai Namco's games should be skipping Switch 2 for Day 1 launches. Late ports are better than nothing, but they sell way less than brand new titles and indicate lack of serious commitment to the platform.
I think the Project Helix allegedly being a PC/console hybrid and having access to PC storefronts including Steam is pretty cool, just not "$1000+ price tag" cool.
Toad appears in a ton of Mario games, including most of its spin-offs.
The last time Fox showed up in a game was Super Smash Bros Ultimate, which is a crossover game with a ton of different characters/IPs that released nearly 8 years ago. Prior to the Mario Galaxy movie, Fox was a dormant character, so a new game would be greatly appreciated.
Nintendo still has some mitigation tactics left in the reserve, such as raising the price of Switch Online or further increasing prices of accessories.
But it that's not enough, then I'd expect a $50 price increase by summer of this year.
That's ~25% of all Epic Games employees, the industry is in very dire straits if the company behind one of the biggest games on the planet needs to lay off this many people at once.
@DownRightSam
Yes, Nintendo has officially denied some of his prior reporting (Switch 4K/Pro existence, Switch OLED model profitability, Switch 2 somehow sold at major profit in Japan?).
Nintendo provides shipment forecasts, not production forecasts, so the article's claims are kinda non-falsifiable.
Winds/Waves will be a lot like Scarlet/Violet, but with way better graphic, underwater exploration, and some mechanics from Legends Arceus (i.e. the catching).
For an IP whose mainline entries haven’t debuted on a Nintendo platform Day 1 over the last 20+ years up until now, I'd say this is a good launch for RE9 on Switch 2 (including sales of the RE Generations Pack).
Glad Winds/Waves actually looks quite good, it is a very substantial leap over prior Pokemon games in terms of presentation and it still has ~1.5 years of more development time for additional polish.
With that being said, not releasing in 2026 is a genuine shock, it seems modern Pokemon games will require 5 years of development rather than 3 or 4 years.
The game looked shockingly bad during the Partner Showcase, glad it looks much better at launch and is launching with multiple frame rate options as well.
People who want a Virtual Console-like service on Switch/Switch 2 are going to have to realize that they likely won't be getting Virtual Console-like prices.
@Otimus Whatever "chip shortage" conditions the Switch 1 launched in is absolutely nothing compared to what is happening right now with the RAM/memory shortage.
@raymond23 You bought a Switch 1 game digitally (which is obviously counted as the sale of a Switch 1 game), and then bought the Switch 2 Edition upgrade pack (which is not counted as the sale of a game at all but rather the sale of DLC content).
Seems like nobody has read the fine print on Nintendo's financial reports, but the way Nintendo tracks the sales of Nintendo Switch 2 Edition games (which includes Metroid Prime 4) is:
Sale of Switch 2 Edition retail copy = Counts as sale of a Switch 2 game
Sale of Switch 2 Edition digital copy = Counts as sale of a Switch 1 game
In other words, if you bought Metroid Prime 4 Switch 2 Edition digitally, it counts as the sale of a Switch 1 game.
(This same principle also applies to Pokemon Legends Z-A. This means the 3.89 million copies that Pokemon Legends Z-A Switch 2 Edition reportedly sold only accounts for its retail sales. Digital sales of Pokemon Legends Z-A Switch 2 Edition are accounted for with the 8.41 million copies that the Switch 1 version of Pokemon Legends Z-A reportedly sold.)
Metroid Prime 4 is a game that sold way more on Switch 2 than Switch 1, so you could theoretically have a sales breakdown that looks like this (these are guesstimates, don't take them as truth):
Metroid Prime 4 Switch 2 Edition retail sales: 900,000
Metroid Prime 4 Switch 2 Edition digital sales: 400,000
Metroid Prime 4 Switch 1 retail sales: 300,000
Metroid Prime 4 Switch 1 digital sales: 150,000
The way Nintendo would report these figures would be:
Most curious to learn about The Duskbloods, we haven't seen much of it since the April 2025 Switch 2 Direct.
Souls gameplay mixed into an extraction-type game sounds intriguing but we'll have to see if From Software can pull off the execution. I'll be optimistic and trust Miyazaki, this is his big new game post-Elden Ring and has apparently been a big passion project within FromSoft for quite some time.
@SpacedDuck Xenoblade is 1st party, both the Xenoblade IP and Monolith Soft are owned by Nintendo.
The only way a Xenoblade game shows up in a Partner Showcase is if it is something like a Xenoblade Warriors game - the Hyrule and Fire Emblem Warriors games showed up in prior Partner Showcases since they are published by Koei Tecmo in Japan.
Crazy how this game was playable on Switch 2 back during Gamescom 2025 less than 6 month ago. The Gamescom demo build definitely had frame rate issues, but it didn’t look so unsalavagable as to require an indefinite pause in development (which may as well be equivalent to its cancelation).
The Prince of Persia remake was also canned recently, but that game was never playable to the general public, while B4 on Switch 2 was.
@PlatinumSeraph I'd be surprised if Splatoon Raiders missed 2026, we saw a glimpse of gameplay and cutscene footage when it was announced so clearly a decent amount of work has already gone into it (as opposed to some games that were announced way too early like Metroid Prime 4 or Bayonetta 3, which were unveiled with fancy JPEG logos).
At worst, I could see an early 2027 release window.
@OmnitronVariant Nintendo shipped 17.37 million Switch 2 units to retailers by the end of 2025, of which over 15 million units were sold-through to customers by the 4th week of December 2025.
@h3s I'm not talking about technical performance here. Of course games generally play better on Xbox Series consoles than on Switch 2, they are more powerful.
That first interest poll is one of the first signs that poor Xbox Series sales will have a detrimental impact on its software lineup in the future. Right now most console games still have Xbox versions because game development takes several years and many of those games were greenlit for Xbox back when the brand was much healthier. That is no longer the case.
@MrGawain
A variety of game developers attend GDC, it basically covers every type of game you mentioned and then some.
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Re: Nintendo Reportedly Producing 20 Million Switch 2 Consoles In FY2027
Of course Nintendo needs to produce more consoles than they want to ship to retailers, this is a non-story.
Re: Amazon Pre-Order Listing Puts Pokémon Winds & Waves At €80
It's a placeholder price for a game that is allegedly not releasing until late 2027, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.
With that being said, I would absolutely expect Pokemon Winds/Waves to be one of the Nintendo games that retails at $70 digital/$80 physical or equivalent. Same with the next 3D Mario, 3D Zelda, Smash Bros, Animal Crossing, etc
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Yoshi And The Mysterious Book
That's a pretty big spread of review scores for a Yoshi game, ranging from a 6/10 to 10/10.
Re: The Live-Action Zelda Movie Has A New Worldwide Release Date
@Axecon
We didn't know the Super Mario Galaxy movie would be a Mario Galaxy movie until ~6 months before the movie's release.
Nintendo will provide more info on the Zelda movie in due time.
Re: Nintendo Isn't Ruling Out Further Switch 2 Price Changes Just Yet
It would be irresponsible to say otherwise, market conditions can always get worse. Both Sony and Microsoft have raised the price of their hardware multiple times, Nintendo isn't insulated from that reality.
Re: Switch 2 Has Sold Just Shy Of 20 Million Units, Nintendo Lowers FY27 Forecast
@WiltonRoots
Switch 1 shipped just under 15 million units in its first 10 months (March to December 2017).
Re: Nintendo To Counter Switch 2's Global Price Hikes With Robust Software Lineup
@johnedwin
Japanese people are paid in yen, not dollars. A ¥60000 console is not cheap whatsoever.
Re: Nintendo To Counter Switch 2's Global Price Hikes With Robust Software Lineup
Another interesting quote:
So even with the $50/€30/¥10000 price increase, the new price still doesn't fully make up for the increase in costs.
Re: Analyst Predicts A "Silent" Year Ahead For Nintendo
It's not a shock to see the lower 2nd fiscal year forecast, the Switch 2 sold at a record-smashing pace during its first fiscal year (first 10 months), but is now getting a price increase, which is something that has never happened before for any prior Nintendo console.
Switch 1 sold 17 million units during its 2nd full fiscal year (year ending March 2019), so Switch 2 selling 16.5 million units during equivalent period launch-aligned despite the much higher price and more turbulent global economic situation is still a very good number.
Re: Nintendo Announces Sweeping Price Hikes For Switch 2
US got the expected $50 increase while Europe "only" got a 30€ increase. Not good but not terrible, my fear was a ~$100 increase like what happened to the PS5 last month.
However, Japan is getting screwed - the price of the Switch 2 going up by a whopping ¥10000. Switch 2 is now 2× the price of the Switch 1 back in 2018.
Re: PSA: You Can Play Star Fox's Switch 2 Game With A Nintendo 64 Controller
@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT
Can't say that I have ever seen anyone argue that more options are bad.
Re: Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes Of An Elusive Age - Definitive Edition Has Been Rated For Switch 2
Boy, I can't wait to play "Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes Of An Elusive Age - Definitive Edition - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition"
Re: Rumour: A Metroid Movie May Become A Reality As Two Studios Battle For Rights
Who is thevscooper and what is this person's record when it comes to leaking movies before official announcement?
Re: It's Happening: Final Fantasy XIV Is Coming To Switch 2 This August
Separate subscription stinks but it's good that Switch 2 will finally get one of the biggest MMOs om the market.
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Yoshi And The Mysterious Book
Did anyone get any information on who is developing this game?
The easy assumption would be Good-Feel since they developed Yoshi's Woolly World and Crafted World, but they also developed Princess Peach Showtime which launched in 2024. If they were able to release Yoshi and the Mysterious Book just 2 years later, that would be very impressive, especially if the game turns out to be really good.
Re: Bandai Namco Officially Reveals What's Next For The Dragon Ball Xenoverse Series
Bandai Namco's support for Switch 2 has been extremely lackluster, with minimal improvement from their Switch 1 support.
Other Japanese 3rd party publishers like Capcom and Square Enix have fully embraced the Switch 2 with far more technically/visually demanding games - there really isnt any reason why Bandai Namco's games should be skipping Switch 2 for Day 1 launches. Late ports are better than nothing, but they sell way less than brand new titles and indicate lack of serious commitment to the platform.
Re: "Are You High?" – Xbox Co-Creator Believes Whatever Nintendo Makes Next Is Far More Interesting Than Project Helix
I think the Project Helix allegedly being a PC/console hybrid and having access to PC storefronts including Steam is pretty cool, just not "$1000+ price tag" cool.
Re: Random: Diablo 4: Lord Of Hatred Nintendo Rating Surfaces Online
Let's hope Diablo IV's launch on Switch 2 isnt as bad as that of Overwatch.
Re: Talking Point: If The Star Fox Rumours Are True, Where The Heck's Our Captain Toad Sequel?
Toad appears in a ton of Mario games, including most of its spin-offs.
The last time Fox showed up in a game was Super Smash Bros Ultimate, which is a crossover game with a ton of different characters/IPs that released nearly 8 years ago. Prior to the Mario Galaxy movie, Fox was a dormant character, so a new game would be greatly appreciated.
Re: Mouse: P.I. For Hire Switch 2 Performance And Resolution Revealed
1260p in handheld mode is a strange resolution, it must be downsampling from 1260p to the 1080p of the Switch 2 screen.
Reminds me of Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition on Switch, which renders at 1080p in handheld mode but then downsamples to 720p.
@DTfearTheBEARD
I dont know if the Switch 2 version support gyro specifically, but it does support mouse controls.
Probably a good indicator that it will have gyro too.
Re: Rumour: Nintendo's 2026 Plans Include New Star Fox & Zelda Remake, No 3D Mario
@Galaxy2IsTheGOAT
Link's Awakening is already enhanced on Switch 2 with a free patch
Re: PS5 Gets An Insane Price Increase – Will Nintendo Follow Suit?
Nintendo still has some mitigation tactics left in the reserve, such as raising the price of Switch Online or further increasing prices of accessories.
But it that's not enough, then I'd expect a $50 price increase by summer of this year.
Re: Feature: Nintendo May Win Its Case Against The US Government, But Tariffs Are Here To Stay
"I dont care if Nintendo wins, I just need Trump to lose" is my current attitude regarding tariffs and tariff refunds.

Re: Epic Games Cuts Over 1,000 Jobs Weeks After Raising Fortnite V-Bucks Prices
That's ~25% of all Epic Games employees, the industry is in very dire straits if the company behind one of the biggest games on the planet needs to lay off this many people at once.
Re: Nintendo's Apparently Cutting US Switch 2 Output After Lower Than Expected Holiday Sales
@DownRightSam
Yes, Nintendo has officially denied some of his prior reporting (Switch 4K/Pro existence, Switch OLED model profitability, Switch 2 somehow sold at major profit in Japan?).
Nintendo provides shipment forecasts, not production forecasts, so the article's claims are kinda non-falsifiable.
Re: Opinion: Is Winds & Waves Just 'Pokémon: Tears Of The Kingdom'?
Winds/Waves will be a lot like Scarlet/Violet, but with way better graphic, underwater exploration, and some mechanics from Legends Arceus (i.e. the catching).
Re: The Super Mario Galaxy Movie Just Teased Some Tiny Creatures You Might Not Have Expected To See
Miyamoto will do whatever it takes to make Pikmin more popular.
Re: PSA: Switch 2 Update Adds Handheld Mode Boost, Here's How To Use It
@Vyacheslav333
Overclocking wont make a 720p display output a resolution higher than 720p.
Re: PSA: Switch 2 Update Adds Handheld Mode Boost, Here's How To Use It
@Vyacheslav333
You can somehow make the Switch 1's 720p screen display above 720p? Please do tell 😆
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Elden Ring's Updated Switch 2 Build
Bodes well for the technical performance of The Duskbloods.
Re: PEGI Targets Loot Boxes With Its New Overhauled Ratings System
I'm curious if this ratings change will actually hurt sales of EA Sports FC in Europe, as I'm sure these games are quite popular as presents for kids.
Re: UK Charts: Resident Evil Requiem Switch 2 Sales Comparable To Cyberpunk 2077
For an IP whose mainline entries haven’t debuted on a Nintendo platform Day 1 over the last 20+ years up until now, I'd say this is a good launch for RE9 on Switch 2 (including sales of the RE Generations Pack).
Re: Pokémon Winds & Waves Announced For Switch 2, Launching Next Year
Glad Winds/Waves actually looks quite good, it is a very substantial leap over prior Pokemon games in terms of presentation and it still has ~1.5 years of more development time for additional polish.
With that being said, not releasing in 2026 is a genuine shock, it seems modern Pokemon games will require 5 years of development rather than 3 or 4 years.
Re: Fallout 4 Switch 2 Launch Trailer Gives Us A Better Glimpse At The Wasteland
The game looked shockingly bad during the Partner Showcase, glad it looks much better at launch and is launching with multiple frame rate options as well.
Re: Nintendo Seemingly Rules Out Virtual Console Revival, Says It Remains Focused On Offering Classics Via Switch Online
People who want a Virtual Console-like service on Switch/Switch 2 are going to have to realize that they likely won't be getting Virtual Console-like prices.
Re: Nintendo Is Considering A Switch 2 Price Hike This Year, According To New Report
@Otimus
Whatever "chip shortage" conditions the Switch 1 launched in is absolutely nothing compared to what is happening right now with the RAM/memory shortage.
Re: Assassin's Creed Black Flag Remaster Art Book Pops Up On Amazon
Hopefully this isn't an AI-generated book - Amazon has been flooded with them for quite some time now.
Re: Pokémon Pokopia Promises A Chunky Main Story With "More Things To Experience" After Credits
@YoshiTails
The NSO Playtest Program game shares some nominal similarities with Pokopia but is otherwise a completely different game.
Re: Preview: Despite Low Expectations, Pokémon Pokopia Had Me Grinning From Ear To Ear
Much better preview reception than I thought, seems like the highest-effort Pokemon spin-off ever (or at least in a long long time).
Re: Metroid Prime 4's "Combined Sales" Have Surpassed One Million, Nintendo Confirms
@raymond23
You bought a Switch 1 game digitally (which is obviously counted as the sale of a Switch 1 game), and then bought the Switch 2 Edition upgrade pack (which is not counted as the sale of a game at all but rather the sale of DLC content).
Re: Metroid Prime 4's "Combined Sales" Have Surpassed One Million, Nintendo Confirms
Seems like nobody has read the fine print on Nintendo's financial reports, but the way Nintendo tracks the sales of Nintendo Switch 2 Edition games (which includes Metroid Prime 4) is:
In other words, if you bought Metroid Prime 4 Switch 2 Edition digitally, it counts as the sale of a Switch 1 game.
(This same principle also applies to Pokemon Legends Z-A. This means the 3.89 million copies that Pokemon Legends Z-A Switch 2 Edition reportedly sold only accounts for its retail sales. Digital sales of Pokemon Legends Z-A Switch 2 Edition are accounted for with the 8.41 million copies that the Switch 1 version of Pokemon Legends Z-A reportedly sold.)
Metroid Prime 4 is a game that sold way more on Switch 2 than Switch 1, so you could theoretically have a sales breakdown that looks like this (these are guesstimates, don't take them as truth):
The way Nintendo would report these figures would be:
Total sales: 1.75 million (above 1 million)
Re: Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase Announced For Tomorrow, 5th February 2026
Most curious to learn about The Duskbloods, we haven't seen much of it since the April 2025 Switch 2 Direct.
Souls gameplay mixed into an extraction-type game sounds intriguing but we'll have to see if From Software can pull off the execution. I'll be optimistic and trust Miyazaki, this is his big new game post-Elden Ring and has apparently been a big passion project within FromSoft for quite some time.
@SpacedDuck
Xenoblade is 1st party, both the Xenoblade IP and Monolith Soft are owned by Nintendo.
The only way a Xenoblade game shows up in a Partner Showcase is if it is something like a Xenoblade Warriors game - the Hyrule and Fire Emblem Warriors games showed up in prior Partner Showcases since they are published by Koei Tecmo in Japan.
Re: Borderlands 4 Switch 2 Development Paused, According To Take-Two
Crazy how this game was playable on Switch 2 back during Gamescom 2025 less than 6 month ago. The Gamescom demo build definitely had frame rate issues, but it didn’t look so unsalavagable as to require an indefinite pause in development (which may as well be equivalent to its cancelation).
The Prince of Persia remake was also canned recently, but that game was never playable to the general public, while B4 on Switch 2 was.
Re: Nintendo Reconfirms Release Windows For Major Upcoming Switch 2 Games
@PlatinumSeraph
I'd be surprised if Splatoon Raiders missed 2026, we saw a glimpse of gameplay and cutscene footage when it was announced so clearly a decent amount of work has already gone into it (as opposed to some games that were announced way too early like Metroid Prime 4 or Bayonetta 3, which were unveiled with fancy JPEG logos).
At worst, I could see an early 2027 release window.
Re: Switch 2 Storms Towards Its Forecast Target With 17.37 Million Units Sold
@OmnitronVariant
Nintendo shipped 17.37 million Switch 2 units to retailers by the end of 2025, of which over 15 million units were sold-through to customers by the 4th week of December 2025.
Not hard to understand these figures.
Re: GDC Survey Shows Switch 2 Is Proving To Be A Desirable Platform For Developers
@h3s
I'm not talking about technical performance here. Of course games generally play better on Xbox Series consoles than on Switch 2, they are more powerful.
Re: GDC Survey Shows Switch 2 Is Proving To Be A Desirable Platform For Developers
That first interest poll is one of the first signs that poor Xbox Series sales will have a detrimental impact on its software lineup in the future. Right now most console games still have Xbox versions because game development takes several years and many of those games were greenlit for Xbox back when the brand was much healthier. That is no longer the case.
@MrGawain
A variety of game developers attend GDC, it basically covers every type of game you mentioned and then some.
Re: The Next 'Super Mario Galaxy Movie' Nintendo Direct Arrives Sunday, 25th January
Time to find out who is voicing Yoshi
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting The Switch 2 Upgrade For Super Mario Bros. Wonder?
@ButterySmooth30FPS
Switch 2 version is now 4K. Frame rate is apparently smoother too, though the game already ran at 60fps on Switch 1.
Re: Super Mario Bros. Wonder + Meetup In Bellabel Park Arrives On Switch 2 In March
@Crockin
Did you watch the trailer? The Switch 2 upgrade includes a lot more than just Rosalina and mouse mode.