@-wc-
Nintendo didn't exactly ditch their software "parallelism": the Switch has (or will have) its own original 2D Mario, Zelda, and Metroid entries in Super Mario Bros Wonder, Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, and Metroid Dread. Those games are basically modern iterations of their SNES predecessors, yet they all had ~4 year development cycles anyways (possible Covid impact notwithstanding). We are well beyond the age of "small" games being developed in just 18-24 months with shoestring budgets, even they are decent investments in time and resources nowadays.
@-wc- Nintendo going back to SNES-tier games might seem cool for those who grew up on the SNES and love ths console dearly, but it's not a strategy that'll work for the vast majority of consumers. Most people expect future products to improve upon on their immediate predecessors, not to be throwbacks to their 30 year-old entries.
It's absolutely brand-related. With a few exceptions (Mario vs Donkey Kong, Captain Toad, WarioWare, etc), Mario-related games will retail at $60 or whatever the regional equivalent is.
When Switch 2 launches, all of those games will cost $10 more.
If I got a nickel everytime I've seen someone say "This looks too good for Switch, it must be Switch 2/Pro footage" over the last 3+ years, I'd be Elon Musk by now.
The Trirod echo/imitation summoning ability looks like a better version of Fuse from TOTK. It's safe to say emergent gameplay will remain a pillar of all Zelda games from now onward, even in 2D.
Any game that relies as much on backtracking as Metroid basically requires that you lose all or most of your abilities at the very beginning so that not everything is accessible to everyone immediately.
@rjejr It's not like Mario Kart went on complete hiatus after 8 or 8 Deluxe, Tour released in 2019 followed by the Booster Course Pass in 2022. Once it became clear that 8 Deluxe was going to sell as much (or in this case, a lot more) than any previous new Mario Kart title, releasing Mario Kart 9 on Switch became completely redundant, it'll surely be a Switch 2 title instead.
The same applies to 3D Mario, Bowser's Fury launched in early 2021 and the next entry is surely a Switch 2 release.
@Yosti
I guess it's possible but it'll be a lot harder since Tango can't supervise or provide any assistance.
Tango's closure also means Microsoft no longer has a Japanese game studio which means there may be language-barrier-related complications for another (presumably western) studio to handle a HiFi port.
@Maxz
Amiibos are basically collector figures at this point, producing and selling amiibos of obscure characters will do more than fine for the purpose they serve (i.e. generate easy short-term profit).
The toys-to-life game genre has been dead since 2017/18 - there is no chance Nintendo will make their own Skylanders, especially since Smash already acts the one big game that supports all the amiibos.
@rjejr
Games take 4-6 years to make nowadays and Nintendo only has one active platform rather than two, you'll never see the same rate of game output as in the past ever again because of this increase in development times and lack of redundancy (this goes for the entire industry, not just Nintendo).
Midori went from being a fairly reliable Sega/Atlus leaker to suddenly having access to all this inside info from other companies (Nintendo, Square Enix, Capcom, etc) as well?
I don't believe it and neither should anyone else.
@Sisilly_G
Activision already does this on other platforms: the PlayStation and Xbox retail disc version of the last 2 CODs each shipped with a mere 70-100MB of data and you have to install the rest of the game via an internet download.
This is done because all Call of Duty games (Warzone, MWII, MWIII, soon BO6) are played from the same launcher named "Call of Duty HQ", and therefore each game is treated like a giant "expansion" to this single Call of Duty HQ "game".
@LG555
AlphaDream was "dumb" for remastering BiS for 3DS because they should have remastered it for Switch instead - very few people were actively buying 3DS games by late 2018/early 2019.
Sony was not dumb for remastering TLOU on PS5, the TLOU HBO show debuted just a few months after TLOU PS5 and both products massively benefitted from the brand synergy.
Kinda curious if this year's Call of Duty Black Ops 6 (or whatever the final name is) will be a Switch 2 launch title.
Unlike other 3rd party games, Microsoft is contractually obligated to port COD to Nintendo platforms for the next 10 years starting sometime soon, and that "start date" could very likely be the launch of the next Switch.
@LG555
Because it makes money? Draw customers in with the allure of backwards compatibility while also selling remasters/ports of current Switch games.
If Zelnick has yet to acknowledge the closure of 2K Marin (the developers of Bioshock 2) even after 11 years, then there is no way he'll acknowledge the closure of any studio ever.
@link3710
Are you sure he was the one leaking the existence of those games, or was he just piggybacking off of actual credible leaders like Pyoro?
For example, somebody on Resetera leaked Metroid Prime Remastered as far back as 2021 (before the release of Metroid Dread) and the details that person provided ended up being 100% correct, so it definitely wasn't Papagenos who leaked that game. Not sure about Mario RPG or Peach Showtime though...
I dunno if I believe this. What is PapaGenos's track record when it comes to leaks like this? I recall him being prominent in the Smash Ultimate DLC character scene but I'm pretty sure all of his Smash leaks ended up being completely wrong 😄.
Square Enix incurred a ¥8 billion loss in the last fiscal year despite the release of both FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth, this is completely unsustainable and the shift to a full multiplatform release strategy (that include Nintendo platforms) was inevitable.
@WiltonRoots
I think you are referring to the Walnot Mountain cave, I enjoyed spelunking through that as well.
I think Nintendo did a great job with caves in general given how large and labyrinthine many of them were. To me it was fun to enter a cave just to see where or how it would end.
Beyond caves, another fond memory was completing one of the labyrinths for the first time. Navigating the surface labyrinth, then making my way up to glide across the sky labyrinth in low-gravity, and then diving from the sky all the way down into the Depths to fight the Construct boss was such a genius way to integrate all 3 layers of the world map across a single objective.
Beat him last summer after completing all of the main quests and almost all of the side content so that the final boss was the actual "end" of the game for me, easily the best ending to a Zelda game by far.
The entire Colgera boss battle, mostly because of the music.
Encountering Colgera again by complete surprise in the Depths.
Exploring the cave inside the Lookout Landing emergency shelter only to realize that the cave was absolutely gigantic and stretched all the way to Hyrule Castle.
The Construct Factory + Spirit Temple combo, it was probably favorite dungeon and I hope future Zelda dungeons have a similar design and structure to this one.
"We do not think the announcement of the successor to Nintendo Switch and future related communications will have zero impact on Nintendo Switch sales."
They are saying the exact opposite of the headline of this article.
Makes sense as the next evolution of Mario Maker, though making an intuitive 3D Mario level maker won't be easy at all, certainly far more difficult than a 2D Mario level maker.
@Sondheimist Batman Arkham was also huge back in the day.
The superhero games that have been unsuccessful are the ones that try to shove live service elements in them ala Avangers, Suicide Squad, or even Gotham Knights to a lesser degree. (Speaking of Suicude Squad, I have no faith that Rocksteady will be alive in the next 5 years).
Since the Arkane Lyon Blade game will be a strictly single-player game in the vein of Dishonored/Deathloop, I have faith it won't immediately crater like Avengers/Suicide Squad.
@LG555 The PS5 and Xbox Series are fully backwards compatible yet they are absolutely filled to the brim with cross-gen games and even ports of some older PS4/XBO games. I'd expect no different for Switch 2.
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Re: Nintendo President Says Longer Game Development Cycles Are "Unavoidable"
@-wc-
Nintendo didn't exactly ditch their software "parallelism": the Switch has (or will have) its own original 2D Mario, Zelda, and Metroid entries in Super Mario Bros Wonder, Zelda Echoes of Wisdom, and Metroid Dread. Those games are basically modern iterations of their SNES predecessors, yet they all had ~4 year development cycles anyways (possible Covid impact notwithstanding). We are well beyond the age of "small" games being developed in just 18-24 months with shoestring budgets, even they are decent investments in time and resources nowadays.
Re: Nintendo President Says Longer Game Development Cycles Are "Unavoidable"
@-wc-
Nintendo going back to SNES-tier games might seem cool for those who grew up on the SNES and love ths console dearly, but it's not a strategy that'll work for the vast majority of consumers. Most people expect future products to improve upon on their immediate predecessors, not to be throwbacks to their 30 year-old entries.
Re: Nintendo President Says Longer Game Development Cycles Are "Unavoidable"
@koffing
Increase in visual fidelity and bigger scope are the main culprits in long development times.
Re: Nintendo President Says Longer Game Development Cycles Are "Unavoidable"
@datamonkey
Nope, HAL is completely independent from Nintendo.
Re: Sega's Crazy Taxi Reboot Is Described As A 'Massively Multiplayer Driving Game'
So GTA Online but you never exit the vehicle?
I'm no prophet but it's easy to see this flopping.
Re: UK Charts: Luigi's Mansion 2 HD Scares Off The Competition
@LadyCharlie
I dunno about UK prices but Luigi's Mansion 2 retailed at $40 USD, which was the standard retail price of 3DS games in the US.
Re: Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Costs $60 On Switch
It's absolutely brand-related. With a few exceptions (Mario vs Donkey Kong, Captain Toad, WarioWare, etc), Mario-related games will retail at $60 or whatever the regional equivalent is.
When Switch 2 launches, all of those games will cost $10 more.
Re: Soapbox: 'Switch 2' Is Nintendo's Chance To Adopt The PC Feature It's Desperate To Take For A Spin
@Kirgo
Let me rephrase: Most PC games don't really exclusively use the scroll wheel for anything, not even for navigating long lists.
Re: Soapbox: 'Switch 2' Is Nintendo's Chance To Adopt The PC Feature It's Desperate To Take For A Spin
To be fair, most PC games don't really use the scroll wheel for anything, not even for navigating long lists.
Re: Gallery: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Is Looking Absolutely Stunning On Switch
If I got a nickel everytime I've seen someone say "This looks too good for Switch, it must be Switch 2/Pro footage" over the last 3+ years, I'd be Elon Musk by now.
Re: New 2D Adventure 'The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom' Announced For This September
The Trirod echo/imitation summoning ability looks like a better version of Fuse from TOTK. It's safe to say emergent gameplay will remain a pillar of all Zelda games from now onward, even in 2D.
Re: Metroid Dread Director On Samus Losing Her Abilities: "Yes, It Has To Be Like That"
Any game that relies as much on backtracking as Metroid basically requires that you lose all or most of your abilities at the very beginning so that not everything is accessible to everyone immediately.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Has Finished Recording His Final YouTube Video
@sanderev
That is completely different from him saying that he is done working on Smash Bros.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Has Finished Recording His Final YouTube Video
@sanderev
Show me where/when he said that.
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Has Finished Recording His Final YouTube Video
@Randomname19
There is no need to guess when we know it will be the next Smash Bros.
Re: Random: "Barren" Pokémon Expo Is The Game Industry's 'Willy Wonka Experience'
Stuff like this is why companies like Nintendo are very, very protective of their brand and their IPs.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want Quality And Performance Options For Nintendo's 'Switch 2' Games?
@rjejr
It's not like Mario Kart went on complete hiatus after 8 or 8 Deluxe, Tour released in 2019 followed by the Booster Course Pass in 2022. Once it became clear that 8 Deluxe was going to sell as much (or in this case, a lot more) than any previous new Mario Kart title, releasing Mario Kart 9 on Switch became completely redundant, it'll surely be a Switch 2 title instead.
The same applies to 3D Mario, Bowser's Fury launched in early 2021 and the next entry is surely a Switch 2 release.
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Reiterates Plan To Put "More Of Our Games On More Platforms"
@Yosti
I guess it's possible but it'll be a lot harder since Tango can't supervise or provide any assistance.
Tango's closure also means Microsoft no longer has a Japanese game studio which means there may be language-barrier-related complications for another (presumably western) studio to handle a HiFi port.
Re: Xbox's Phil Spencer Reiterates Plan To Put "More Of Our Games On More Platforms"
@obijuankanoobie
Boy have I got some bad news for you...
Re: Talking Point: amiibo Were First Revealed 10 Years Ago Today, And We Still Want More
@Maxz
Amiibos are basically collector figures at this point, producing and selling amiibos of obscure characters will do more than fine for the purpose they serve (i.e. generate easy short-term profit).
The toys-to-life game genre has been dead since 2017/18 - there is no chance Nintendo will make their own Skylanders, especially since Smash already acts the one big game that supports all the amiibos.
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want Quality And Performance Options For Nintendo's 'Switch 2' Games?
@rjejr
Games take 4-6 years to make nowadays and Nintendo only has one active platform rather than two, you'll never see the same rate of game output as in the past ever again because of this increase in development times and lack of redundancy (this goes for the entire industry, not just Nintendo).
Re: Talking Point: Would You Want Quality And Performance Options For Nintendo's 'Switch 2' Games?
You can't mandate performance/quality mode options if developers don't want to or are unable to do so.
Re: Random: Nintendo Of America Appears To Have Updated Its Sign
This probably should have happened back in 2016 when the logo change actually happened, but better 8 years late than never lol.
Re: Take-Two CEO Responds To Reports Of Studio Shutdowns
@GrailUK
Quite the opposite, and that's the problem
Re: New Rumours About Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake Surface
Midori went from being a fairly reliable Sega/Atlus leaker to suddenly having access to all this inside info from other companies (Nintendo, Square Enix, Capcom, etc) as well?
I don't believe it and neither should anyone else.
Re: Soapbox: Fire Emblem’s Future May Not Be In Turn-Based Combat
Intelligent Systems actually did change the combat system of another game franchise they work on, and the response was, well, not great.
Re: Activision Officially Announces Call Of Duty: Black Ops 6
@Sisilly_G
Activision already does this on other platforms: the PlayStation and Xbox retail disc version of the last 2 CODs each shipped with a mere 70-100MB of data and you have to install the rest of the game via an internet download.
This is done because all Call of Duty games (Warzone, MWII, MWIII, soon BO6) are played from the same launcher named "Call of Duty HQ", and therefore each game is treated like a giant "expansion" to this single Call of Duty HQ "game".
Re: Nintendo Hacker Gary Bowser Says Conviction Was "A Blessing"
Bowser is just glad Nintendo didn't treat him like how Boeing treats their whistleblowers.
Re: Nintendo Switch "Successor" Announcement Is Coming "This Fiscal Year"
@LG555
AlphaDream was "dumb" for remastering BiS for 3DS because they should have remastered it for Switch instead - very few people were actively buying 3DS games by late 2018/early 2019.
Sony was not dumb for remastering TLOU on PS5, the TLOU HBO show debuted just a few months after TLOU PS5 and both products massively benefitted from the brand synergy.
Re: Nintendo Announces Acquisition Of Shiver Entertainment
@Ulysses
Huh? Shiver is now a Nintendo studio, why "poach" Nintendo employees to work at...Nintendo?
Re: Nintendo Announces Acquisition Of Shiver Entertainment
Anything that loosens Embracer's grasp on this industry is a W in my book
Re: Mailbox: 'Switch 2' Launch Ports, Soulslikes For Beginners, Poké Parks - Nintendo Life Letters
Kinda curious if this year's Call of Duty Black Ops 6 (or whatever the final name is) will be a Switch 2 launch title.
Unlike other 3rd party games, Microsoft is contractually obligated to port COD to Nintendo platforms for the next 10 years starting sometime soon, and that "start date" could very likely be the launch of the next Switch.
Re: Nintendo Switch "Successor" Announcement Is Coming "This Fiscal Year"
@LG555
Because it makes money? Draw customers in with the allure of backwards compatibility while also selling remasters/ports of current Switch games.
Re: Take-Two Reportedly Shutting Down OlliOlli And Kerbal Space Program 2 Devs
If Zelnick has yet to acknowledge the closure of 2K Marin (the developers of Bioshock 2) even after 11 years, then there is no way he'll acknowledge the closure of any studio ever.
Re: Rumour: Princess Zelda May Take The Starring Role In An Upcoming Game
@link3710
Are you sure he was the one leaking the existence of those games, or was he just piggybacking off of actual credible leaders like Pyoro?
For example, somebody on Resetera leaked Metroid Prime Remastered as far back as 2021 (before the release of Metroid Dread) and the details that person provided ended up being 100% correct, so it definitely wasn't Papagenos who leaked that game. Not sure about Mario RPG or Peach Showtime though...
Re: Switch "Joy-Con Drift" Class Action Lawsuit Dismissed After Five Years
Predictable, proving that Nintendo intentionally sold defective controllers was always going to be near impossible.
Re: Rumour: Princess Zelda May Take The Starring Role In An Upcoming Game
I dunno if I believe this. What is PapaGenos's track record when it comes to leaks like this? I recall him being prominent in the Smash Ultimate DLC character scene but I'm pretty sure all of his Smash leaks ended up being completely wrong 😄.
Re: Square Enix To "Aggressively Pursue" Multiplatform Strategy, Includes "Nintendo Platforms"
Square Enix incurred a ¥8 billion loss in the last fiscal year despite the release of both FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth, this is completely unsustainable and the shift to a full multiplatform release strategy (that include Nintendo platforms) was inevitable.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Celebrates First Anniversary With Special Artwork
@WiltonRoots
I think you are referring to the Walnot Mountain cave, I enjoyed spelunking through that as well.
I think Nintendo did a great job with caves in general given how large and labyrinthine many of them were. To me it was fun to enter a cave just to see where or how it would end.
Beyond caves, another fond memory was completing one of the labyrinths for the first time. Navigating the surface labyrinth, then making my way up to glide across the sky labyrinth in low-gravity, and then diving from the sky all the way down into the Depths to fight the Construct boss was such a genius way to integrate all 3 layers of the world map across a single objective.
Re: Talking Point: One Year On, Has Everyone Beaten Ganondorf In Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom?
Beat him last summer after completing all of the main quests and almost all of the side content so that the final boss was the actual "end" of the game for me, easily the best ending to a Zelda game by far.
Re: Rumour: Switch Successor's Codename May Have Been Uncovered
Sorry, there isn't an Ounce of truth to this - the Switch successor codename isn't Muji.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Celebrates First Anniversary With Special Artwork
Man, the artwork for both BOTW and TOTK is just 🤌
Favorite memories of TOTK:
Re: Nintendo Believes Successor Announcement Will Have "Zero Impact" On Switch Sales
"We do not think the announcement of the successor to Nintendo Switch and future related communications will have zero impact on Nintendo Switch sales."
They are saying the exact opposite of the headline of this article.
Re: Soapbox: Are We Ready For A 3D Super Mario Maker?
Makes sense as the next evolution of Mario Maker, though making an intuitive 3D Mario level maker won't be easy at all, certainly far more difficult than a 2D Mario level maker.
Re: Rumoured 'Hi-Fi Rush' Switch Port In Doubt As Microsoft Culls Tango Gameworks And Other Studios
@Sondheimist
Batman Arkham was also huge back in the day.
The superhero games that have been unsuccessful are the ones that try to shove live service elements in them ala Avangers, Suicide Squad, or even Gotham Knights to a lesser degree. (Speaking of Suicude Squad, I have no faith that Rocksteady will be alive in the next 5 years).
Since the Arkane Lyon Blade game will be a strictly single-player game in the vein of Dishonored/Deathloop, I have faith it won't immediately crater like Avengers/Suicide Squad.
Re: Rumoured 'Hi-Fi Rush' Switch Port In Doubt As Microsoft Culls Tango Gameworks And Other Studios
Xbox gaming is starting to look more and more like like Embracer Group.
Seems like that PS5 port of HiFi Rush was a test on whether Microsoft would shut down Tango. Unfortunately, they failed
Re: Nintendo Switch "Successor" Announcement Is Coming "This Fiscal Year"
@LG555
The PS5 and Xbox Series are fully backwards compatible yet they are absolutely filled to the brim with cross-gen games and even ports of some older PS4/XBO games. I'd expect no different for Switch 2.
Re: Nintendo Switch "Successor" Announcement Is Coming "This Fiscal Year"
@liljmoore
Nintendo is a Japanese company, no one over there is asleep right now haha
Re: 'Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition' For Switch Rated By ESRB
@jedgamesguy
NSO addition? No, it's going to be a premium game that you purchase.
Re: Video: How Does Paper Mario: TTYD On Switch Compare To The Original?
Almost every environmental asset is new, this is definitely a full-on remake.