@The_Nintend_Pedant yeah, not to be mean, but I didn't like playing Zeldacraft. (I did like a lot of other things about the game though.)
and not to be overly excitable, but we may be in luck with Adventures of Elliott. It's not exactly Zelda, but it sure borrows from it, and from Ys. I was sort of disappointed Team Asano hadn't been working on another turn-based game (and that someone else made Octopath 0), but Elliott is looking really good! I wish I could play the demo!
@The_Nintend_Pedant I'm being sort of off-topic now... But I had to sort of view BotW as a "Not Zelda" game, and from that perspective, I really enjoyed it a lot. That didn't help me with TotK, though, for whatever reason.
@The_Nintend_Pedant They're nice, even lovely, in the moment when playing, but they don't stick with you quite as well as older stuff, which is what I think OP was trying to say before the hordes descended upon them. For many, that is preferable. We don't necessarily want a 2-minute track set on loop. But at the same time, many of the older melodies were more memorable, and the composer in question wrote many of those memorable melodies.
...before it descended into a peeing match of "new zelda is better! no, old zelda is better!"
@kkslider5552000 which of them worked on for frog the bell tolls, and the Wii channel music, and had their own little theme song they inserted in most games? Was that one of those two?
@nessisonett do you remember a single track from botw? It’s got some nice melodies for sure, but its melodies aren’t its focus at all. OP didn’t have a bizarre take.
OP also never specified they were talking about wii/3ds. They may have been talking about NES, game boy, snes for all we know, eras with strong melodic focus.
@SplatRay001 Yeah, I'm happy to see that. They had been saying that would NOT be the case, I guess to prevent overly high expectations.
I'm still undecided. It's a massive system with very little battery life and no new games I want that I can't play elsewhere. But I might only play it on my TV anyway. Would be nice to have faster loading and better performance from Switch 1 games.
If they had to do all that for first party titles, makes me worry for 3rd party stuff, especially from studios without the budget to rigorously test and patch their games.
@sethfranum I've been saving my best buy gift cards for ages and have enough for a Switch 2. I was hoping for simple backward compatibility, where everything ran faster and was upscaled automatically. This hybrid software solution is a mixture we won't even know about until after it's been in the wild for a while. And it doesn't enhance anything without a patch, a patch that most games will not get because many small devs and publishers just won't bother. I already have a PS5 and an Xbox Series X, and I expected the backward compatibility to be as seamless as it is on those consoles. It is not. And there are no compelling launch titles for me, so why would I? I'm complaining because I wanted to buy a Switch 2, and they really give me no reason to do so. So I'm sticking with my Switch 1, where I have a ton I still want to play, rather than hoping to play them on a Switch 2 in some enhanced fashion.
I don’t have a reason to get a switch 2, and I definitely don’t have a reason to retire my switch 1. If the backward compatibility were better, and if there were any compelling launch window games besides Mario kart, or if my switch 1 were my only console, it might be a different story. But Mario kart, games I can play elsewhere, and disappointing backward compatibility, are not reason enough.
I’m considering getting a bigger SD card for my OG switch instead.
As much as I’d love to see this on pc and xbox, isn’t this just referring to the game assist ai? It can probably assist with games that aren’t on Xbox and pc too.
@Stormcloudlive a lot of people updated and found their save data was gone for any game they had on the sd card. Games on the system storage were not affected. Save data in the cloud was not affected, but you need switch online service to use cloud saves.
@Anachronism Right--well, if most of the games are now meeting higher standards than "it starts," that is actually a really good step.
My main worry is that some of the stuff that doesn't work, will just never work. It's not realistic to expect really small devs to do a patch on their games. Some games were made on PC by tiny teams, ported to Switch by someone else and funded by a publisher, and said publisher may not even realize or care if there's an issue.
In an ideal world, everything would get a free minimalistic patch to work, load faster, and maybe even run faster and upscale, but I don't know if that's what will happen.
@Anachronism I’m not sure it’s fully confirmed compatibility is it? Isn’t it just testing that it boots and playing it briefly to see if it keeps running? If it’s actual 60% full compatibility that’s nice.
They don’t heavily test these games either. If it says it boots, that, and a little further, is probably what they tested. We won’t absolutely know what works until games actually get played more heavily but users.
I was hoping for something more like ps5 or xbox series where previous gen stuff works natively and has faster load times and up scaling out of the box.
@LavaTwilight 1991 was an amazing launch year in the US , or rather four months. I forgot Castlevania in the list as well, Populous, and others. I don't think the Switch 2's first four months are going to be able to match it at all. But that's partly because the landscape has changed.
@LavaTwilight not quite how it went comrade. I was there too. Before the end of 1991, we also had actraiser, final fantasy, pilotwings, simcity, gradius, r-type… These were all exclusive games at the time, too, if they were 3rd party. It was one of the best system launch windows of all time.
I’m more concerned that the single player will suffer from it having been designed from the ground up as multiplayer. Seems like games that try to do both usually suffer in both as well.
I don’t think any rpg has emphasized it as much as Clair obscur tho (except maybe legend of dragoon).
The attack qtes (which you can turn off) aren’t too tough. But the dodge/parry/jump is tough. I am not good at it, but it can’t be turned off. Lowering the game difficulty makes the windows more manageable, but it also nerfs a bunch of other stuff that I don’t want nerfed.
Great game tho, and I think it would have been great without qtes too.
@Dan420 and in addition to the “doesn’t work” or “being investigated” games, even the ones that work have mostly only undergone “does it boot and run?” testing and nothing more.
The minimum I really wanted from this system was backward compatibility with faster load times and some rudimentary up scaling… not this weird software backward compatibility and paid switch 2 versions
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Re: Persona 3 Reload Is Getting A Free Update Adding Eight Songs
Some of these songs are gonna be kinda weird during battles and dungeons… not that it isn’t still cool.
Re: Switch 2's First Warhammer 40,000 Game Isn't The One You Might Expect
That actually is the one I’d expect
Re: Poll: So, Will You Be Getting Pokémon Legends: Z-A?
Arceus is the only pokemon game I’ve enjoyed in decades, but it doesn’t look anything like arceus.
Re: Review: Shujinkou (Switch) - Words Whup Sticks & Stones In This Innovative Dungeon Crawler
So if I know the kana already, this wont teach me anything new?
Re: Tetris & Metroid Composer 'Hip' Tanaka Is Getting Back Into Video Game Music
@The_Nintend_Pedant yeah, not to be mean, but I didn't like playing Zeldacraft. (I did like a lot of other things about the game though.)
and not to be overly excitable, but we may be in luck with Adventures of Elliott. It's not exactly Zelda, but it sure borrows from it, and from Ys. I was sort of disappointed Team Asano hadn't been working on another turn-based game (and that someone else made Octopath 0), but Elliott is looking really good! I wish I could play the demo!
Re: Tetris & Metroid Composer 'Hip' Tanaka Is Getting Back Into Video Game Music
@The_Nintend_Pedant I'm being sort of off-topic now... But I had to sort of view BotW as a "Not Zelda" game, and from that perspective, I really enjoyed it a lot. That didn't help me with TotK, though, for whatever reason.
Re: Tetris & Metroid Composer 'Hip' Tanaka Is Getting Back Into Video Game Music
@The_Nintend_Pedant They're nice, even lovely, in the moment when playing, but they don't stick with you quite as well as older stuff, which is what I think OP was trying to say before the hordes descended upon them. For many, that is preferable. We don't necessarily want a 2-minute track set on loop. But at the same time, many of the older melodies were more memorable, and the composer in question wrote many of those memorable melodies.
...before it descended into a peeing match of "new zelda is better! no, old zelda is better!"
Re: Tetris & Metroid Composer 'Hip' Tanaka Is Getting Back Into Video Game Music
@The_Nintend_Pedant congrats. I played 150 hours of breath of the wild and 50 of totk, and it was fine, but I don’t remember many melodies at all.
Re: Tetris & Metroid Composer 'Hip' Tanaka Is Getting Back Into Video Game Music
@kkslider5552000 which of them worked on for frog the bell tolls, and the Wii channel music, and had their own little theme song they inserted in most games? Was that one of those two?
Re: Tetris & Metroid Composer 'Hip' Tanaka Is Getting Back Into Video Game Music
@nessisonett do you remember a single track from botw? It’s got some nice melodies for sure, but its melodies aren’t its focus at all. OP didn’t have a bizarre take.
OP also never specified they were talking about wii/3ds. They may have been talking about NES, game boy, snes for all we know, eras with strong melodic focus.
Re: Tetris & Metroid Composer 'Hip' Tanaka Is Getting Back Into Video Game Music
One of the best. Also one of the best sf6 tracks.
Which Metroid and Mario land and Tetris did he do exactly?
Re: Octopath Traveler 0 Has Been Rated For Switch And Switch 2
It’s not being developed by team asano, so it’s hard to know if it’ll be any good. Octo 2 was amazing.
Re: Julian LeFay, The 'Father Of The Elder Scrolls', Has Passed Away
@Princess_Lilly me too
Re: Julian LeFay, The 'Father Of The Elder Scrolls', Has Passed Away
That really sucks. What a bummer. I wish he could have at least finished what he was working on.
Re: Random: Hideo Kojima Remembers That Time He Used Unwanted Teddy Bear Tech To Make A GBA Vampire Game
Boktai was cool! Unfortunately it relied on front-lit or non-lit lcd screens. Good luck playing in the sun on modern backlit lcds.
That and skin cancer and sunburn and overheated devices…
Re: Best MicroSD Express Cards For Nintendo Switch 2
@SplatRay001 Yeah, I'm happy to see that. They had been saying that would NOT be the case, I guess to prevent overly high expectations.
I'm still undecided. It's a massive system with very little battery life and no new games I want that I can't play elsewhere. But I might only play it on my TV anyway. Would be nice to have faster loading and better performance from Switch 1 games.
Re: The Switch 2 Fixes Its Predecessor's "Worst Performing" Game
I didn’t realize games would be improved without some kind of patch. If stuff actually runs, and with improvements, I might buy a switch 2 after all.
Re: Final Fantasy Tactics Is Getting An Enhanced Revival On Switch And Switch 2
Doesn’t seem like they’re doing much to it. Which is fine.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Order A Nintendo Switch 2?
No games I want that I can’t play elsewhere, lackluster backward compatibility… I’ll wait.
Re: PSA: Switch 2 Updates For Multiple First-Party Switch Games Are Now Available
@LexKitteh at this point I’d just be happy with everything working, and faster load times!
Re: PSA: Switch 2 Updates For Multiple First-Party Switch Games Are Now Available
If they had to do all that for first party titles, makes me worry for 3rd party stuff, especially from studios without the budget to rigorously test and patch their games.
Re: Everybody's Golf: Hot Shots Has Been Rated By The ESRB
@IronMan30 the first minna no golf was made by Camelot software planning, who went on to do Mario golf and the like.
It’s kind of been hit or miss since then tho. But so had Mario golf (mostly miss)
Re: Best MicroSD Express Cards For Nintendo Switch 2
It’s really unfortunate that switch 1 games don’t even get faster load times on switch 2.
Re: Street Fighter 6 Welcomes The Return Of A Legendary Composer This Week
The music in street fighter 2 is iconic. It’s been bland in every entry since. The music in SF6 is one of the low points of the game for me.
Re: Feature: Farewell, Nintendo Switch - It's Finally Time To Bid Our Old Friend 'Adieu'
@sethfranum I've been saving my best buy gift cards for ages and have enough for a Switch 2. I was hoping for simple backward compatibility, where everything ran faster and was upscaled automatically. This hybrid software solution is a mixture we won't even know about until after it's been in the wild for a while. And it doesn't enhance anything without a patch, a patch that most games will not get because many small devs and publishers just won't bother. I already have a PS5 and an Xbox Series X, and I expected the backward compatibility to be as seamless as it is on those consoles. It is not. And there are no compelling launch titles for me, so why would I? I'm complaining because I wanted to buy a Switch 2, and they really give me no reason to do so. So I'm sticking with my Switch 1, where I have a ton I still want to play, rather than hoping to play them on a Switch 2 in some enhanced fashion.
Re: Feature: Farewell, Nintendo Switch - It's Finally Time To Bid Our Old Friend 'Adieu'
I don’t have a reason to get a switch 2, and I definitely don’t have a reason to retire my switch 1. If the backward compatibility were better, and if there were any compelling launch window games besides Mario kart, or if my switch 1 were my only console, it might be a different story. But Mario kart, games I can play elsewhere, and disappointing backward compatibility, are not reason enough.
I’m considering getting a bigger SD card for my OG switch instead.
Re: Random: Xenoblade Chronicles X Pops Up On Microsoft PC Game Page
@Koda1000 Gotta get those clicks I guess! Or maybe they don't read their sibling Xbox website, which did report on the Assist thing at some point.
Re: Random: Xenoblade Chronicles X Pops Up On Microsoft PC Game Page
@Sindayl what?? You mean a sonic game is gonna be on a Nintendo platform?? Never!!!!
People get so weird about this stuff, don’t they?
Re: Random: Xenoblade Chronicles X Pops Up On Microsoft PC Game Page
As much as I’d love to see this on pc and xbox, isn’t this just referring to the game assist ai? It can probably assist with games that aren’t on Xbox and pc too.
Re: Persona 4 Voice Actor May Have Accidentally Confirmed The Remake
I’ll just be happy to play it in Japanese. The original ps2 version was English only.
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 20.1.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Stormcloudlive a lot of people updated and found their save data was gone for any game they had on the sd card. Games on the system storage were not affected. Save data in the cloud was not affected, but you need switch online service to use cloud saves.
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 20.1.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Did they fix it so you don’t lose the save data of everything on your SD card yet?
Re: Nintendo Updates Switch 2 Backwards Compatibility List
@Anachronism Right--well, if most of the games are now meeting higher standards than "it starts," that is actually a really good step.
My main worry is that some of the stuff that doesn't work, will just never work. It's not realistic to expect really small devs to do a patch on their games. Some games were made on PC by tiny teams, ported to Switch by someone else and funded by a publisher, and said publisher may not even realize or care if there's an issue.
In an ideal world, everything would get a free minimalistic patch to work, load faster, and maybe even run faster and upscale, but I don't know if that's what will happen.
Re: Round Up: The Previews For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake Are In
Dragon quest 2 is highly underrated
Re: Nintendo Updates Switch 2 Backwards Compatibility List
@Anachronism I’m not sure it’s fully confirmed compatibility is it? Isn’t it just testing that it boots and playing it briefly to see if it keeps running? If it’s actual 60% full compatibility that’s nice.
Re: Nintendo Updates Switch 2 Backwards Compatibility List
They don’t heavily test these games either. If it says it boots, that, and a little further, is probably what they tested. We won’t absolutely know what works until games actually get played more heavily but users.
I was hoping for something more like ps5 or xbox series where previous gen stuff works natively and has faster load times and up scaling out of the box.
Re: Rumour: A Nintendo Direct May Drop Around The Switch 2's Launch
@LavaTwilight 1991 was an amazing launch year in the US , or rather four months. I forgot Castlevania in the list as well, Populous, and others. I don't think the Switch 2's first four months are going to be able to match it at all. But that's partly because the landscape has changed.
Re: Rumour: A Nintendo Direct May Drop Around The Switch 2's Launch
@LavaTwilight not quite how it went comrade. I was there too. Before the end of 1991, we also had actraiser, final fantasy, pilotwings, simcity, gradius, r-type… These were all exclusive games at the time, too, if they were 3rd party. It was one of the best system launch windows of all time.
Re: Rumour: A Nintendo Direct May Drop Around The Switch 2's Launch
Would be nice if they had more to launch with than just Mario kart and a bunch of 3rd party stuff one can get elsewhere.
Re: Round Up: The First Impressions Of Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time Are In
I’m more concerned that the single player will suffer from it having been designed from the ground up as multiplayer. Seems like games that try to do both usually suffer in both as well.
Re: Bam Margera Officially Confirmed For Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4
It was sad to have bam cut out of the last jackass movie
Re: Bam Margera Officially Confirmed For Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4
“Look at Phil’s tummy!”
Re: Nintendo Shares More Footage Of Zelda: Wind Waker On Switch 2
Just port the Wii U version instead of acting like the GameCube version is the best one. 🙄
Re: 'The Hundred Line' Dev Too Kyo Games Is Still "On The Brink Of Going Under"
It’s kind of crazy they didn’t try to release it on more platforms if they needed sales.
Re: Opinion: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33's Best Gameplay Feature Is Straight Out Of Mario's Playbook
@PJOReilly Probably does go some distance in drawing an "i hate turn-based games!" audience in, though, and hopefully retaining them...
Re: Sea Of Stars 'Throes Of The Watchmaker' DLC Finally Scores A Release Date
Are they doing one more dlc, or is this the last update I think?
Been waiting to replay the game
Re: Opinion: Clair Obscur: Expedition 33's Best Gameplay Feature Is Straight Out Of Mario's Playbook
I don’t think any rpg has emphasized it as much as Clair obscur tho (except maybe legend of dragoon).
The attack qtes (which you can turn off) aren’t too tough. But the dodge/parry/jump is tough. I am not good at it, but it can’t be turned off. Lowering the game difficulty makes the windows more manageable, but it also nerfs a bunch of other stuff that I don’t want nerfed.
Great game tho, and I think it would have been great without qtes too.
Re: Poll: GameStop Offers A Tempting Switch 2 Trade-In Deal, But Is It Really Worth It?
@Dan420 and in addition to the “doesn’t work” or “being investigated” games, even the ones that work have mostly only undergone “does it boot and run?” testing and nothing more.
The minimum I really wanted from this system was backward compatibility with faster load times and some rudimentary up scaling… not this weird software backward compatibility and paid switch 2 versions
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (26th April)
We’re all playing oblivion and Clair obscur, including the staff, but neither are options on the vote thing. The irony.
Re: Poll: GameStop Offers A Tempting Switch 2 Trade-In Deal, But Is It Really Worth It?
Seems a little unsafe to do a trade in when the backward compatibility is still a bit of a mystery until people can actually try it out.