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Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch

jesse_dylan

@Samalik I did not play it, and you are very broad in what your definition of censorship is... I will play the new one (hopefully).

What the director thinks really has no bearing on anything.

Removing a boob slider, and changing the outfit design of a 13 year-old so she's not in a skimpy bikini (?) is modification more so than censorship. They didn't change the story, the dialog, the concepts... they didn't outright ban something... If you want to fight anti-censorship battles, I'm with you, but this is not exactly the one. You could perhaps do some research on historical or current examples of actual, salient censorship, and it might put this into perspective.

Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch

jesse_dylan

@raghouse Then how are there early reviews of the game that are critical? It's not out yet, and there are plenty of critical reviews. It ranges from "best bioware ever!!!" to "mediocre and not recommended".

BG3 didn't have a boob slider, and I didn't miss it. It didn't have a PP slider either, but it did have jiggly peens.

Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch

jesse_dylan

@ottoecamn well, we’re not gonna know why it is or isn’t an issue. But obviously Nintendo didn’t want it in the game in the Wii U days, and whether they want it now or not, it isn’t, and only a very small minority care… there are fights to be fought if you want to fight them. Probably. As far as games go we’re at an all time low for censorship, and I still struggle to conceptualize this as censorship.

Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch

jesse_dylan

@Samalik it would be censorship if the character artist were saying “my special pai pai slider is carefully designed”. They’re not removing characters or even outfits.

And the person who designs the characters has no effect on the rating. The xenoblade 2 characters weren’t designed as eroge characters… (they do kind of look it tho)

Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch

jesse_dylan

@ottoecamn This has nothing to do with bayonetta... If you want to get on the culture-preservation bandwagon, I totally applaud you, but this is a bizarre way to do it. What works in Japan, does not work here, as the Japanese devs themselves have noted. People in Japan aren't going to be weird about it. We are going to be weird about it. Even us having this lengthy discussion about it is us being weird about it.

They're also trying to hit a teen rating, not M. Bayonetta had an M rating.

Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch

jesse_dylan

@Samalik I guess we're getting off into the weeds here.

I brought up Dragon Age because, again, it's the exact same group complaining from the other end. Whether you like it or not, they are your company for this journey. (I'm not particularly interested in Dragon Age either, because the combat looks too actiony, and it doesn't seem like an RPG anymore.)

You guys are bringing up bayonetta now, and it's a totally different situation. They had control over how that was perceived. They don't have control over people making weird big-boob characters and running all over Twitch making their game look weird. It has nothing to do with pornhub. It's just an optics thing.

Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch

jesse_dylan

@ottoecamn because they probably don’t want massive weird huge boob characters running around on twitch and YouTube and for their game to be known as the massive boob character game and laughed at.

It’s their game, not a Michelangelo statue. With actual censorship happening on a daily basis in society, this really isn’t on the same level.

Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch

jesse_dylan

@Samalik I don’t really see it as censorship by contrast… and I don’t think censorship is an all or nothing deal. They have ratings to worry about. And, again, the same people who call this censorship, are also mad that dragon age veilguard’s boob and butt sliders don’t go further, and are simultaneously upset that you can add cellulite and top surgery scars to characters. Unfortunately, all of this is all related, whether we like it or not. Things that were seen as acceptable in the ‘80s in concept and promotional art (but were not visible in the 8x8 pixel sprites in-game) are no longer necessarily acceptable in full on HD art and higher definition character sprites. Games that were secluded in niches are no longer secluded.

But I don’t think that means a wave of censorship is coming to completely change every game. It’s obviously targeting certain elements for readily apparent reasons.

Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch

jesse_dylan

@Samalik if not having a booby slider is the only censorship we have to deal with, we’re doing fine. The same people who say omission of a boob slider is censorship, want to ban trans books from libraries (or have parents who do); that’s literal censorship and is a big contrast.

If Nintendo doesn’t want to embarrass themselves with a bust slider, I fully support that.

Re: Talking Point: Is It Time For Another Side-Scrolling Zelda Game?

jesse_dylan

@benmalsky198 why do we have to accept anything? they're games, not humans. I even said they were terrific games. Breath of the Wild was the first "Zelda" game in ages I loved and finished. But it didn't feel like much of a Zelda game. Tears feels even less so, more like Zelda Minecraft. You're entitled to enjoy them and think of them however you like, too.