It’s sad we never got the remaster/remakes of saga 1-3 either! There was a color version of saga 1 (still my fave), and there were (really ugly) 3D NDS remakes of 2 and 3.
That was great! I loved the game boy games as a kid and still feel sad I missed out on romancing saga 1-3.
I’ve recently been going through the saga and final fantasy series together chronologically. Especially on nes, game boy, and snes, they are sister series that build on each other. Not so much after ff6/rs3.
@Samalik I did not play it, and you are very broad in what your definition of censorship is... I will play the new one (hopefully).
What the director thinks really has no bearing on anything.
Removing a boob slider, and changing the outfit design of a 13 year-old so she's not in a skimpy bikini (?) is modification more so than censorship. They didn't change the story, the dialog, the concepts... they didn't outright ban something... If you want to fight anti-censorship battles, I'm with you, but this is not exactly the one. You could perhaps do some research on historical or current examples of actual, salient censorship, and it might put this into perspective.
@raghouse Then how are there early reviews of the game that are critical? It's not out yet, and there are plenty of critical reviews. It ranges from "best bioware ever!!!" to "mediocre and not recommended".
BG3 didn't have a boob slider, and I didn't miss it. It didn't have a PP slider either, but it did have jiggly peens.
@ottoecamn well, we’re not gonna know why it is or isn’t an issue. But obviously Nintendo didn’t want it in the game in the Wii U days, and whether they want it now or not, it isn’t, and only a very small minority care… there are fights to be fought if you want to fight them. Probably. As far as games go we’re at an all time low for censorship, and I still struggle to conceptualize this as censorship.
@Samalik it would be censorship if the character artist were saying “my special pai pai slider is carefully designed”. They’re not removing characters or even outfits.
And the person who designs the characters has no effect on the rating. The xenoblade 2 characters weren’t designed as eroge characters… (they do kind of look it tho)
@ottoecamn This has nothing to do with bayonetta... If you want to get on the culture-preservation bandwagon, I totally applaud you, but this is a bizarre way to do it. What works in Japan, does not work here, as the Japanese devs themselves have noted. People in Japan aren't going to be weird about it. We are going to be weird about it. Even us having this lengthy discussion about it is us being weird about it.
They're also trying to hit a teen rating, not M. Bayonetta had an M rating.
@Samalik I guess we're getting off into the weeds here.
I brought up Dragon Age because, again, it's the exact same group complaining from the other end. Whether you like it or not, they are your company for this journey. (I'm not particularly interested in Dragon Age either, because the combat looks too actiony, and it doesn't seem like an RPG anymore.)
You guys are bringing up bayonetta now, and it's a totally different situation. They had control over how that was perceived. They don't have control over people making weird big-boob characters and running all over Twitch making their game look weird. It has nothing to do with pornhub. It's just an optics thing.
@raghouse that’s not even true. There are a huge number of pre release reviews, many very positive and many extremely critical. They’re all plainly visible.
@ottoecamn because they probably don’t want massive weird huge boob characters running around on twitch and YouTube and for their game to be known as the massive boob character game and laughed at.
It’s their game, not a Michelangelo statue. With actual censorship happening on a daily basis in society, this really isn’t on the same level.
@Samalik I don’t really see it as censorship by contrast… and I don’t think censorship is an all or nothing deal. They have ratings to worry about. And, again, the same people who call this censorship, are also mad that dragon age veilguard’s boob and butt sliders don’t go further, and are simultaneously upset that you can add cellulite and top surgery scars to characters. Unfortunately, all of this is all related, whether we like it or not. Things that were seen as acceptable in the ‘80s in concept and promotional art (but were not visible in the 8x8 pixel sprites in-game) are no longer necessarily acceptable in full on HD art and higher definition character sprites. Games that were secluded in niches are no longer secluded.
But I don’t think that means a wave of censorship is coming to completely change every game. It’s obviously targeting certain elements for readily apparent reasons.
@Samalik if not having a booby slider is the only censorship we have to deal with, we’re doing fine. The same people who say omission of a boob slider is censorship, want to ban trans books from libraries (or have parents who do); that’s literal censorship and is a big contrast.
If Nintendo doesn’t want to embarrass themselves with a bust slider, I fully support that.
I haven’t turned on my Wii U for years. But it does still have all my old virtual console stuff on it. And that fire emblem # smt game that id love to buy on switch, but it never goes on sale.
And yes… wind waker. Twilight Princess can stay there tho. Yuck.
I loved the first one. Kind of an awkward time to release, with Natsu-mon having just come out (loved that too), and so much other stuff out of coming out.
Should be an option for “I’m finally tired of the years of emotional abuse”. It’s crazy how Sonic fans keep coming back after some truly hilariously bad games.
You’d think Nintendo would have massive lawyers already given their size. Kind of odd to see them basically posting on linkedin or Craig’s list or whatever: “hello we r need good law ur. Sew palworld. Thnak u.”
@PKDuckman yeah! Realms of the haunting would be good. And they did other interplay fps didn’t they? Clive barkers undying might be an interesting one too
@RantingThespian I saw that Ross Scott too and second your recommendation. It was good! I had this game confused with some other weird shooter (maybe one of the interplay ones). Had me wondering if they fixed or changed or evened out any of the issues Ross Scott ran into, but it doesn’t seem like it.
He’s a hero of mine. He can’t be that old yet can he? Did his health problems clear up? I hope he’s healthy and well and not that old yet and gets to make the music he wants to make now. Final fantasy iv and vi made my life.
@benmalsky198 why do we have to accept anything? they're games, not humans. I even said they were terrific games. Breath of the Wild was the first "Zelda" game in ages I loved and finished. But it didn't feel like much of a Zelda game. Tears feels even less so, more like Zelda Minecraft. You're entitled to enjoy them and think of them however you like, too.
@benmalsky198 Okay, well, they are what they are, and some people adore them, and most people agree the games are fantastic. However, they are not exactly Zelda so much as a new thing with Zelda window dressing. But maybe that's the only way a Zelda 2-alike would be able to work these days.
Zelda 2 has needed a more player-friendly remake or remaster for a long time. They should do something with it. I’m worried a sequel would be watered down with tears of the kingdom junk.
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Re: Random: GameChops' New 'Zelda & Jazz II' Album Is More Chilled Than The Hebra Mountains
Damn. I read that as Zelda 2 and jazz. Disappointed.
Zelda 2 had an underrated soundtrack
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Mario & Luigi: Brothership
Jeez. Don’t know whether to cancel my preorder and save my credit or not.
Re: Feature: The History Of SaGa, Square's Weirdest, Bravest RPG Series
It’s sad we never got the remaster/remakes of saga 1-3 either! There was a color version of saga 1 (still my fave), and there were (really ugly) 3D NDS remakes of 2 and 3.
Re: Feature: The History Of SaGa, Square's Weirdest, Bravest RPG Series
That was great! I loved the game boy games as a kid and still feel sad I missed out on romancing saga 1-3.
I’ve recently been going through the saga and final fantasy series together chronologically. Especially on nes, game boy, and snes, they are sister series that build on each other. Not so much after ff6/rs3.
Re: Best Sonic Games Of All Time
Jeez. Sonic CD needs a port I guess.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@Samalik I did not play it, and you are very broad in what your definition of censorship is... I will play the new one (hopefully).
What the director thinks really has no bearing on anything.
Removing a boob slider, and changing the outfit design of a 13 year-old so she's not in a skimpy bikini (?) is modification more so than censorship. They didn't change the story, the dialog, the concepts... they didn't outright ban something... If you want to fight anti-censorship battles, I'm with you, but this is not exactly the one. You could perhaps do some research on historical or current examples of actual, salient censorship, and it might put this into perspective.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@raghouse Then how are there early reviews of the game that are critical? It's not out yet, and there are plenty of critical reviews. It ranges from "best bioware ever!!!" to "mediocre and not recommended".
BG3 didn't have a boob slider, and I didn't miss it. It didn't have a PP slider either, but it did have jiggly peens.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@ottoecamn well, we’re not gonna know why it is or isn’t an issue. But obviously Nintendo didn’t want it in the game in the Wii U days, and whether they want it now or not, it isn’t, and only a very small minority care… there are fights to be fought if you want to fight them. Probably. As far as games go we’re at an all time low for censorship, and I still struggle to conceptualize this as censorship.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@Samalik it would be censorship if the character artist were saying “my special pai pai slider is carefully designed”. They’re not removing characters or even outfits.
And the person who designs the characters has no effect on the rating. The xenoblade 2 characters weren’t designed as eroge characters… (they do kind of look it tho)
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@ottoecamn This has nothing to do with bayonetta... If you want to get on the culture-preservation bandwagon, I totally applaud you, but this is a bizarre way to do it. What works in Japan, does not work here, as the Japanese devs themselves have noted. People in Japan aren't going to be weird about it. We are going to be weird about it. Even us having this lengthy discussion about it is us being weird about it.
They're also trying to hit a teen rating, not M. Bayonetta had an M rating.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@Samalik I guess we're getting off into the weeds here.
I brought up Dragon Age because, again, it's the exact same group complaining from the other end. Whether you like it or not, they are your company for this journey. (I'm not particularly interested in Dragon Age either, because the combat looks too actiony, and it doesn't seem like an RPG anymore.)
You guys are bringing up bayonetta now, and it's a totally different situation. They had control over how that was perceived. They don't have control over people making weird big-boob characters and running all over Twitch making their game look weird. It has nothing to do with pornhub. It's just an optics thing.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@raghouse that’s not even true. There are a huge number of pre release reviews, many very positive and many extremely critical. They’re all plainly visible.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@ottoecamn because they probably don’t want massive weird huge boob characters running around on twitch and YouTube and for their game to be known as the massive boob character game and laughed at.
It’s their game, not a Michelangelo statue. With actual censorship happening on a daily basis in society, this really isn’t on the same level.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@Samalik I don’t really see it as censorship by contrast… and I don’t think censorship is an all or nothing deal. They have ratings to worry about. And, again, the same people who call this censorship, are also mad that dragon age veilguard’s boob and butt sliders don’t go further, and are simultaneously upset that you can add cellulite and top surgery scars to characters. Unfortunately, all of this is all related, whether we like it or not. Things that were seen as acceptable in the ‘80s in concept and promotional art (but were not visible in the 8x8 pixel sprites in-game) are no longer necessarily acceptable in full on HD art and higher definition character sprites. Games that were secluded in niches are no longer secluded.
But I don’t think that means a wave of censorship is coming to completely change every game. It’s obviously targeting certain elements for readily apparent reasons.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
@Samalik if not having a booby slider is the only censorship we have to deal with, we’re doing fine. The same people who say omission of a boob slider is censorship, want to ban trans books from libraries (or have parents who do); that’s literal censorship and is a big contrast.
If Nintendo doesn’t want to embarrass themselves with a bust slider, I fully support that.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
Gawd. You people embarrass us all by giving any crap at all about boob sliders. Give it a rest.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition Confirmed For Switch
Just in time for them to remaster the other 3 for switch 2
Re: Reaction: With Xenoblade Chronicles X On Switch, The Wii U's Demise Is Complete
I haven’t turned on my Wii U for years. But it does still have all my old virtual console stuff on it. And that fire emblem # smt game that id love to buy on switch, but it never goes on sale.
And yes… wind waker. Twilight Princess can stay there tho. Yuck.
Re: Best Ys Games Of All Time - Switch And Nintendo Systems
@Hero-of-WiiU huh? How is any of this random? They didn’t fall out of the sky.
Re: Best Ys Games Of All Time - Switch And Nintendo Systems
Yeah but the music in Ys III snes is so good, you’ll almost enjoy the grind.
Re: Level-5 CEO Reconfirms Three Switch Game Releases For 2025
@Zeebor15 you’ll wait til you’re dead, afraid. They gave it zero marketing. It barely got a digital release. Sad because it’s a great game.
Re: Level-5 CEO Reconfirms Three Switch Game Releases For 2025
Hope they do switch 2 upgrades at launch…
Re: Random: Game Director Masahiro Sakurai Reveals His Daily Work Routine
@Yaycandy Yeah that could be
Re: Random: Game Director Masahiro Sakurai Reveals His Daily Work Routine
That’s too much bro. Need more sleep, some exercise, some fun, a fap.
Re: Review: Shin chan: Shiro And The Coal Town (Switch) - A Stunningly Beautiful Game, Uncomplicated Yet Weird
I loved the first one. Kind of an awkward time to release, with Natsu-mon having just come out (loved that too), and so much other stuff out of coming out.
Definitely want to play it tho.
Re: Review: Romancing SaGa 2: Revenge Of The Seven (Switch) - A Remake That's Equally Intriguing & Underwhelming
Yikes. I figured that would happen. These always do better in Japan.
A step back from decent games is sort of damning considering recent games have been kinda zany already.
Series kinda peaked with the first two entries on game boy.
Re: Switch Online Offering Trio Of Game Trials
@MontyCircus woof. Still nice to try it for free tho
Re: Poll: Sonic X Shadow Generations Is Out This Week, Will You Be Getting It?
Should be an option for “I’m finally tired of the years of emotional abuse”. It’s crazy how Sonic fans keep coming back after some truly hilariously bad games.
Re: Switch Online Offering Trio Of Game Trials
@Medic_alert oh jeez. Sounds like the trial is all I need then.
Re: Switch Online Offering Trio Of Game Trials
Games I already can play on game pass…
…but I’ll try cursed to golf! Been curious about it since it came out anyway.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (19th October)
Metaphor Re Fantazio!
Re: Nintendo's Latest Job Listing Is On The Hunt For An Intellectual Property Lawyer
You’d think Nintendo would have massive lawyers already given their size. Kind of odd to see them basically posting on linkedin or Craig’s list or whatever: “hello we r need good law ur. Sew palworld. Thnak u.”
Re: Review: Killing Time: Resurrected (Switch) - Nightdive Revives A Weirdly Alluring 3DO Curio
@Ulysses are you ok?
Re: Review: Killing Time: Resurrected (Switch) - Nightdive Revives A Weirdly Alluring 3DO Curio
@PKDuckman yeah! Realms of the haunting would be good. And they did other interplay fps didn’t they? Clive barkers undying might be an interesting one too
Re: Review: Killing Time: Resurrected (Switch) - Nightdive Revives A Weirdly Alluring 3DO Curio
@RantingThespian I saw that Ross Scott too and second your recommendation. It was good! I had this game confused with some other weird shooter (maybe one of the interplay ones). Had me wondering if they fixed or changed or evened out any of the issues Ross Scott ran into, but it doesn’t seem like it.
Re: Review: Killing Time: Resurrected (Switch) - Nightdive Revives A Weirdly Alluring 3DO Curio
It’s weird they didn’t do something to make it more playable. Add a little hint system? I don’t know.
Re: Video: Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake Side-By-Side Graphics Comparison
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Re: Video: Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake Side-By-Side Graphics Comparison
I just wanted screenshots
Re: Final Fantasy Composer Nobuo Uematsu Says Fantasian Neo Dimension Is His "Final Project"
He’s a hero of mine. He can’t be that old yet can he? Did his health problems clear up? I hope he’s healthy and well and not that old yet and gets to make the music he wants to make now. Final fantasy iv and vi made my life.
Re: Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition Updated (Version 1.1.1), Here's What's Included
It was $25 on woot recently. But I have a lot of games.
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 19.0.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Becington oh no! That’s really bad
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 19.0.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@Member_the_game mmm I eat barley most days
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 19.0.0 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
My OG 2017 switch is literally not stable. I hope this update stops my switch from turning itself off randomly while it’s asleep. That’s getting old.
Re: Random: Nintendo's Museum Might Be Emulating SNES Games On Windows PC
Hypocrites. Someone should sue them. 🤡
Re: Review: Super Mario Party Jamboree (Switch) - Only The Best Game In The Series
That’s a surprise. I was expecting it to be mediocre.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Time For Another Side-Scrolling Zelda Game?
@benmalsky198 why do we have to accept anything? they're games, not humans. I even said they were terrific games. Breath of the Wild was the first "Zelda" game in ages I loved and finished. But it didn't feel like much of a Zelda game. Tears feels even less so, more like Zelda Minecraft. You're entitled to enjoy them and think of them however you like, too.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Time For Another Side-Scrolling Zelda Game?
@benmalsky198 Okay, well, they are what they are, and some people adore them, and most people agree the games are fantastic. However, they are not exactly Zelda so much as a new thing with Zelda window dressing. But maybe that's the only way a Zelda 2-alike would be able to work these days.
Re: Talking Point: Is It Time For Another Side-Scrolling Zelda Game?
Zelda 2 has needed a more player-friendly remake or remaster for a long time. They should do something with it. I’m worried a sequel would be watered down with tears of the kingdom junk.
Re: Feature: That Time I Was Invited To Square HQ To Playtest Final Fantasy VI
@Jhena as I kid I never even questioned the logic of suplexing a train. You’d think I’d seen it done before!
Re: Feature: That Time I Was Invited To Square HQ To Playtest Final Fantasy VI
@Tasuki 7-10 aren’t bad! But 6 is best. And the rest after ten aren’t even final fantasy.