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@Rykdrew

I think they said old stages would be 'reimagined', but that's a good point, that amount is quite tawdry.

24 racers on a track...
For me less is more.

Open world games can be great, I really don't think Mario Kart needed it.

I feel with a lot of franchises that Nintendo are, excuse the pun, running out of road.

As for price, Sonic Racing CrossWorlds is a lot cheaper; is Sega that much richer than Nintendo?
Presumably it's about Nintendo feeling they can get away with asking for $80 a game.
And maybe they're right, but the backlash to the price and the lukewarm reception to this direct suggest that may not be the case.

"But Nintendo have always been greedy, they've done research and this must be the right price!"
Like how they had to drop the 3DS price?
Like how they had to be persuaded to include Wii Sports with the console that became a runaway success?

Yes, Nintendo has always been about maximising profits like most companies, but let's not pretend that they always get that equation right.

I'm old,
that is new,
and I'm scared.

@Willo567

Well, a couple of my students in Japan.

Also heard from this guy:
https://youtu.be/3YsUfFInnf4?t=290

I clicked on the image that warned of spoilers and now the game has been spoiled for me.

Who do I direct complaints to?

@Willo567

I heard the opposite,
that some Japanese people are daunted by cost, despite the lower price of the console in Japan.

Looks a bit too Nuts and Bolts to me.

@Keman
You vomited on your computer?

Elephant Mario is the stuff of Christmas nightmares.

@Elitepatriot

I think they could do with having a couple of games for Christmas confirmed already,
but I think with Mario Kart he console is going to to do as well as it can do at launch.

Box Art Brawls Current Total:

Europe: 97

Japan: 92

North America: 112

Australia and New Zealand: 1

So somewhat similar to N64 and Wii U price.
Yikes.

What is the point of going half physical and half download?

Just seems to me the worst of both worlds.

It's a bad look from Nintendo.

@GoldenSunRM

I began to lose enthusiasm for the game after that, felt like they jumped the shark, or perhaps jumped the Sidon.

Really enjoyed Calamity, but by the end I felt they were scraping the bottom of the barrel and was already left cold by the prospect of DLC,
this game holds even less interest for me.

Add that Kingdom essentially repeats Wild's storyline with different mcguffins (to the point where it's surreal that residents don't talk about the previous game's events) and this version of Hyrule is getting really tired.

@GoldenSunRM

The time travel didn't make the story invalid,
just made it a bit naff.

GameCube easily:

Crazy Taxi
Luigi's Mansion
Rogue Squadron II
Wave Race Blue Storm
Super Monkey Ball

@betterman

"biased" is not a synonym for incorrect.

Massive sell off of US Treasury bonds has forced a U-turn on tariffs for most countries.

And now the US have caved in over electronics from China.

Got an invite but don't intend to use it.

I think it's a cute idea you don't realise you want until you try it.

I'm pretty encouraged by this.
I have no intention of getting a Switch 2,
but hope more games come to Switch.

@electrolite77

Some things they seem to regret making and release quietly.

This is just getting weird Nintendo.

Hmm, I never really thought about this game's soundtrack much, just enjoyed it while playing the game.

@roboshort

Quite, the US set up the economic world order and has benefitted enormously from it.

As for the tariffs, I can see a scenario where Trump wins the battle,
but America loses the war.

@johnvboy

But if negotiations were his aim,
then why did he not accept them?

And why is he ruling out a zero for zero deal?

And if we're using the reductionist thinking of, y happened after x, therefore x caused y, then you could just as easily argue that the EU tariffs caused the 90 day delay (I don't think that was the cause, but that reasoning is just as logical).

Will be interesting how it turns out.

@electrolite77

That doesn't contradict my point,
but to continue the discussion, for me I feel they now respond to what people want more, which I do like as we get the fan service in Smash Ultimate for example, but then series with a smaller number of fans are often neglected.

@Ganon821

Political is not the same as partisan.
Whether you agree with the tariffs or not,
they are a reality.
To tell someone not to talk about politics is tantamount to telling someone not to talk about life.

@johnvboy

The EU offered talks before the tariffs were levied.

@johnvboy

"Take a game like Metroid Prime 4. The franchise has never been a massive seller. But Nintendo have brought it back. And even restarted development."

So Nintendo does sometimes prioritise other things over immediate profit then.

@Spider-Kev

Without knowing which 50 countries,
it really doesn't mean much.

@electrolite77

Their aproach to seeking a profit has changed,
as I detailed.
In some ways for the better, worse in others, in my view.

Granted I have not read every comment on here,
so perhaps you could direct to those who don't believe that Nintendo has always been a for profit company.

The thing that strikes me,
is that if they had waited a day or two to announce, in terms of optics, the prices would have looked a lot more justifiable.

But the crux of the issue isn't around emotional nonsense about whether Nintendo is greedy or not, or being obnoxious about certain people supposedly being poor.
A cretinous assertion in itself, as some wealthy people can be quite thrifty.

Rather, it's a question of whether this is strategically wise, and whether individual customers want to pay that much.

And certain failures in the past for Nintendo suggest they are more than capable of getting it wrong. N64, GameCube, Wii U, and 3DS all show this, but that last one is perhaps is most illustrative here;
Nintendo got the 3DS price completely wrong,
and despite being a for profit company, and a company that had done research, they had to decrease the price, at a loss or at least comparative loss.

A lot of people seem to be suffering from amnesia.

As for my memory, yes Nintendo has always been for profit of course, but it seemed in the past to be a more long term vision,
with discount games series which enhance their reputation, artistic directions that aren't guranteed to sell versus the more risk averse releases now. This recent Disneyfication has been much remarked upon. Mario has been bigger than Mickey Mouse since the late 80s, yet they didn't rush to do the theme parks.
A company intent on short term profits would have built a store in Japan long ago.
They were reticent towards the microtransactions on mobile, not because it wouldn't yield money short term, but because it might hurt their reputation long term.
Whilst obviously wanting to make money, they seem to in the past have wanted to appear to have artistic integrity, and to not appear rapacious.
I think now we are seeing more direct short term calculations, more akin to the Anglosaxon approach.
(That is not an ethical judgement, just an observation on their strategies.)
So to blithely state that Nintendo is a for profit company is be so banal as to be of little utility.

@Spider-Kev

Of the three countries you mention,
Taiwan has the largest economy,
and only comes in at no.22 in the world.

The far bigger news from that region is Japan starting the process of offloading USD,
along with Japan and Korea moving closer to China economically.

This has been a little overblown in some quarters,
but is nonetheless an omnious sign.

Box Art Brawls - Nintendo Switch 2 Special:

1st) Donkey Kong Bonanza

2nd) Mario Kart World

3rd) Metroid Prime 4

4th) The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (US)

5th) Kirby and the Forgotten Land + Star Crossed World

6th) The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom

7th) The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (EU)

8th) Super Mario Party Jamboree + Jamboree TV

@GoldenSunRM

I reckon Nintendo have game developers among their staff,
perhaps they could create new dungeons to fill those obvious gaps.

How many times are they going to release this game in an unfinished state...

I feel the Forgotten Land Switch 2 stuff adds a lot to the box.

Are we sure she's a child,
and that it's not just the cute art style?

Great game,
but felt that it had already taken things to its limits.

No Boom Boom,
No Poochy,
No party.

Not sure that's such a great endorsement.
It should wow in isolation.

Breath of the Kong.

Apparently I've been 'selected' to have the opportunity to pre-order the Switch 2.

Has everybody on the NSO emailing list got this?

@Chimichanga

Well it's 'poor people' from the 'first world' that are a large part of the market.

In any case, the 'first world' is a cold war term, so is therefore obsolete.

@wwwwataboy

The quality of the lineups is what I was comparing.

If I got a Switch 2, I'd get these updates anyway with NSO.
But still seems grubby to me.

So perplexing.
That Europe and Japan featured Crafted World would suggest that this is merely an error.
However the new artwork would suggest that something is going on.
But then why wouldn't they have shown it at the recent Switch1 Direct?

@MrMagic

That is a good point.

Just wait a day and suddenly the price increase comes across as much more reasonable, whatever the truth is.