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Re: Opinion: Yoshi And The Mysterious Book Completely Wastes Its Best Mechanic

Uncle_Franklin

@Cyrax77

I don't recall expressing a strong opinion,
nor claiming that the majority of reviewers/players don't like the game,
just that some reviewers have pointed out how it might not appeal to the target audience.

I have commented a lot,
so I'll happily be corrected and take a look if I did.

The closest I can find is:
"Many reviewers felt there was a mismatch between the target age the style of gameplay seemed to be going for."

As I explained previously, that doesn't mean the reviewers didn't view the game favourably overall.
And in any case, "many" is not necessarily a majority.

As for Yoshi's Story,
the MobyGames archive has it on 77% based on 49 critic ratings collected from magazines/sites of the era.
So not thaf different from the scores Mysterious Book is gettjng now.

Re: Opinion: Yoshi And The Mysterious Book Completely Wastes Its Best Mechanic

Uncle_Franklin

@Cyrax77

But nowhere have I, or the reviews I read, claimed that it misses the goal audience completely, just that the amount of text might be difficult for them to read (a few of the reviewers played the game with children); you ought not to persist in that strawman argument.
I recall at the time some reviews of Breath of the Wild said that the dungeons were lacklustre, yet still gave it ten out of ten; it need not be binary.

"You state that "a few have been overall favourable" but yet the critics rate it at an 8,1. More then a few are overall favourable it seems."
Yes, I could have said a "fair few" or such like,
I wasn't trying to mimimise the overall feeling towards the game,
just that plenty have mentioned shortcomings as well.

"But yet you state you've consumed a lot of the games coverage. If you did that without looking for opinions (reviews) that match your feelings about the game, you would have bought it."
Come on mate, this is really weak sauce.
A lot of people consume gaming in different ways these days.
A few of my students when I taught at a Japanese university would watch Splatoon but never played it.
Myself, I'm middle aged and don't have a Switch 2,
and find myself consuming gaming in what some might consider a second hand way more than more.

I think you've let yourself down a bit with the above point.

I do find the presentation of the game pleasant and rather enjoy watching coverage of it, even to the point of making a couple of custom Smash stages based on levels, but that's as far as it goes (some might say quite far already mind);
I don't feel the need to buy a s Switch 2 for it,
and if I did, I think I would try to rent it, as it seems the appeal is in the discovery (which I'm getting from reviews and footage) and afterwards it's rather like having a completed colouring book.

Again, I think you've let yourself down a bit.

I think the game in time might find a similar place to Yoshi's Story;
a bit underrated, but with issues that are difficult to ignore
And that's fine.

Re: Opinion: Yoshi And The Mysterious Book Completely Wastes Its Best Mechanic

Uncle_Franklin

@HalBailman

I didn't claim that anyone was being obsessive;
merely that the writer of the piece wasn't.

As for your other points,
I agree with them, they just don't refute what I said.

Nowhere in my original comment did I suggest that any one review (though there are a few, as I said) were representative of all views, I merely referred to them as a counter point to the one you raised regards the game being targeted towards children.

That you apparently couldn't accept that suggests that you need to heed your own statement:
"There are times when an individual review simply isn't representative. That doesn't undermine that review (because no opinion is wrong)".

Re: Opinion: Yoshi And The Mysterious Book Completely Wastes Its Best Mechanic

Uncle_Franklin

@Cyrax77

A mismatch might lead to a game getting an 8,
rather than a 9 or 10;
I think the scenario you painted a little reductive.

I also think it presumptuous of you to insinuate that I am searching for revews that match my opinion; I've consumed a lot of coverage of the game, (to be honest I feel that's probably the best way to enjoy it).
A few have been overall favourable,
though even some of those have expressed the misgiving I cited.

Re: Opinion: Yoshi And The Mysterious Book Completely Wastes Its Best Mechanic

Uncle_Franklin

@HalBailman

What do you think reviews are?
They're not empirical studies.

In any case, you made an absolute statement:
"we have adults reviewing a game for their expectations";
we only need one example of children not enjoying the game to refute that definitie statement, as it is there are several.

Whether the population at large thinks children should read more or not is irrelevant.
Many reviewers felt there was a mismatch between the target age the style of gameplay seemed to be going for,
and the amount of text the gamer was expected to read.

@michellelynn0976
I believe it is you that is 'going on about it'.

What in the piece did you find hateful or obsessive?
The most I could find is that the writer is angry at the game's missed potential in not expanding a particular feature;
if anything that could be interpreted as appreciation for that feature.

I only recall this piece and the review expressing an opinion on the gameplay,
I don't think two do an obession make;
if there are more I'll be happy for you to correct me.

Re: Opinion: Yoshi And The Mysterious Book Completely Wastes Its Best Mechanic

Uncle_Franklin

The writer wanted to express thier view on a part of the game they couldn't before as it was under embargo.
Not sure why this is so difficult for some to understand;
It's not 'hatred' or 'obsession'.

@HalBailman @somnambulance
A few reviewers have mentioned that their young children did not enjoy the game.
Many have also pointed out that the game has too much text for the presumed target audience.