Being tired of a complaint doesn't give any validity to an opinion.
"if you don’t like it don’t support it". And we're not. In conjunction with this we are also sharing our views and explaining why, on a Nintendo site. If you don't like it, don't read it.
"are maybe some people fine with the pricing?"
I don't think anyone is suggesting that no-one is okay with the pricing; they're giving their opinion on why it's not okay with them.
"So maybe some people don’t care so much about the price and just want excellent gaming for their switch 2."
Again, that doesn't detract from other human individuals giving their views.
The belief that if a majority of people like something that it must be good, or a good value proposition, also seems flawed to me, but you're allowed to have that opinion of course.
"For me personally I don’t care for sports games. So I’m not buying Mario tennis. Maybe for a lower price I would consider it."
An understandable view that would be strange for someone who had bought the game to respond to with "Sigh".
1) Not really ironic... People wanted the option of VC. But as that option hasn't been there, many are now subscribed to NSO and so want bare ports like this on there. You have to live in the reality that exists.
2) "Sigh" is not an argument, and I'm worried that you seem to think it is.
VC games back in the day were about £5-£7.
Adjust for inflation and the market, maybe £10 might feel okay.
So charging what they are for this, whilst not giving consumers the choice for most games with VC, is the worst of both worlds.
3) Well it is. Paying a lot for a decades old GBA port.
Again, your rhetorical question, it's not an argument.
4) I wouldn't advocate piracy either, to be fair.
5) I mean, I GBA isn't that difficult to play, not like you have to hook your TV up to a different system.
Maybe more details are coming, but there doesn't even seem to be even basic quality of life improvements that might make it more enticing.
@larryisaman
I think that's where I'm at as well.
Psychologically that £7 (it's 16.99 I think) feels quite big.
@ShadLink
Bizarre comments.
I'm not invested in being a 'true fan', and I really hope that's not your motivation for playing games either, but is your choice of course.
No-one is being prevented from having fun with any game;
this a Nintendo website (that one chooses of their own volition to visit) where people talk about games, and sometimes the value proposition of those games.
Them expressing their opinion, no matter how assertively,
doesn't, or at least shouldn't, have any bearing on your enjoyment of any given game.
That seems to be a bad example, as didn't they change course quite quickly? More broadly, I think western companies are more malevolent, whereas in Japan it comes across as more borne out of stubborness, which I suppose is slightly more commendable (I don't know of course though, I'm not actually in the board rooms). I've offered quite a sum of money for a simple service or item in Japan and been refused because it is mildy incongruous or deviates slightly from their set course; can be quite comical.
I always thought the two main legendaries were a missed opportunity; as the setting was heavily inspired by Britain, they should have been a lion and a unicorn.
Some really cool new Pokemon this generation, with some great variants on existing creatures as well, often willfully misinterpreting British culture, which I quite enjoyed.
F**k them then.
Even if I didn't want Virtual Console (and I do) I'd resent this kind of "Take it and shut up" attitude from Nintendo's refusal to give consumers choice.
Feel like Nintendo need another Wii U style humbling.
At the risk of delving into the political sphere, I've noticed this kind of stance more and more in Japan.
Japanese culture has usually been inflexible, but now it feels to me to be bordering on gratuitous obstinance.
With tourists it's like "Spend money, but f**k off".
But I digress; Switch One is defintely my last Nintendo console.
Don't worry yourselves though, I'll still be here to moan about them.
You sure?
At the end of the piece he says:
"Disagree with this ranking? Feel free to search for your favourite Mario Tennis game below, give them the score they deserve, and potentially influence the order above."
And the ranking order does seem to correspond exactly with the user scores given to each game.
"Nintendo are being really odd last couple of years (Clocks, Flower toys, stretchy face Apps, launching a new system with fan favourites rather than the big AAA hitters)."
Almost as though Nintendo don't always take a direct route to profits.
All they ever needed to do is keep 64's gameplay, add new characters and locations as the mainline Mario adventures progressed; leave the wacky innovation to the big Mario titles.
Nintendo had three decent options regarding the Virtual Boy catalogue as I see it:
1) As Wario Land was the only good game on the system,
remake it for 3DS.
2) Release all the games on the 3DS Virtual Console.
3) Release on Switch NSO and give people the option to play it in 2D; like how they magically managed to present the games in the trailers.
That they have managed to swerve all these decent options is a really quite heroic display of idiocy.
Yeah, I'm already paying money for NSO.
I don't mind a remake, but they need to actually do something to it.
And I'd like more standalone Virtual Console like releases, but those cost around $10.
With the nonsense of paying extra to actually play the Virtual Boy app as well,
NSO is starting to look like an abusive relationship with Nintendo.
I love this generation.
I thought the Parisian setting was great,
and the addition of the Fairy type was much needed and added a lot.
The title legendaries are fantastic.
Greninja is iconic and subsequently features in Smash Bros.
Dedenne one of the better electric rodent designs.
Sylveon is now a fan favourite.
Aurorus is beautiful.
But my all time favourite Pokemon of any generation is Goodra, both versions.
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Re: Poll: So, Which Starter Will You Choose In Pokémon Winds & Waves?
Didn't know the Pokemon Company Owns the Angry Birds license.
Re: Pokémon Winds & Waves Announced For Switch 2, Launching Next Year
Some of it reminded me of New Pokemon Snap, which is a good thing.
Re: Pokémon Champions Brings The Fight To Switch This April
Surprised they've not done Pokken 2 yet.
Re: Pokémon Winds & Waves Announced For Switch 2, Launching Next Year
Okay, now that looks proper.
Re: 50 Best Nintendo 3DS Games Of All Time
@IronMan30
I look forward to the cut in Switch 2 price and free retro games then.
Re: 50 Best Nintendo 3DS Games Of All Time
@CaptainQuo
Wait, what?
Your ex stole two consoles from you?!
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite 3DS Model?
I adore the 2DS design.
Re: Party Platformer 'King Of Meat' Bites The Dust Before It Could Make It To Switch
Interesting, I'll just type "King of Meat" into Google...
...oh my.
Re: Pokémon FireRed And LeafGreen Are Already "Best Sellers" On The Switch eShop Charts
@Lizuka
Conquest was great.
Re: Switch 2 Noir-Fueled Detective FPS 'Mouse: P.I. For Hire' Has Been Slightly Delayed
Hmm, this looks pretty good.
Re: Pokémon FireRed And LeafGreen Are Already "Best Sellers" On The Switch eShop Charts
@Bolt_Strike
What you say feels harsh,
but I can't really contradict it.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Getting Pokémon FireRed Or LeafGreen On Switch?
@Emacster
Being tired of a complaint doesn't give any validity to an opinion.
"if you don’t like it don’t support it". And we're not. In conjunction with this we are also sharing our views and explaining why, on a Nintendo site. If you don't like it, don't read it.
"are maybe some people fine with the pricing?"
I don't think anyone is suggesting that no-one is okay with the pricing; they're giving their opinion on why it's not okay with them.
"So maybe some people don’t care so much about the price and just want excellent gaming for their switch 2."
Again, that doesn't detract from other human individuals giving their views.
The belief that if a majority of people like something that it must be good, or a good value proposition, also seems flawed to me, but you're allowed to have that opinion of course.
"For me personally I don’t care for sports games. So I’m not buying Mario tennis. Maybe for a lower price I would consider it."
An understandable view that would be strange for someone who had bought the game to respond to with "Sigh".
Enjoy Fallout 4.
Re: Gallery: Here's A Look At Pokémon FireRed And LeafGreen On Switch
No online play is truly shocking.
Nintendo have made some utterly baffling decisions recently.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - The Legend Of Zelda: Link's Awakening
@FullMetalWesker
Interesting, that it's so similar to other Zelda covers is precisely why I didn't vote for it.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - The Legend Of Zelda: Link's Awakening
I'm absolutely baffled that anyone is voting for the western version.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Getting Pokémon FireRed Or LeafGreen On Switch?
@Emacster
1) Not really ironic... People wanted the option of VC. But as that option hasn't been there, many are now subscribed to NSO and so want bare ports like this on there. You have to live in the reality that exists.
2) "Sigh" is not an argument, and I'm worried that you seem to think it is.
VC games back in the day were about £5-£7.
Adjust for inflation and the market, maybe £10 might feel okay.
So charging what they are for this, whilst not giving consumers the choice for most games with VC, is the worst of both worlds.
3) Well it is. Paying a lot for a decades old GBA port.
Again, your rhetorical question, it's not an argument.
4) I wouldn't advocate piracy either, to be fair.
5) I mean, I GBA isn't that difficult to play, not like you have to hook your TV up to a different system.
Maybe more details are coming, but there doesn't even seem to be even basic quality of life improvements that might make it more enticing.
Re: Poll: Will You Be Getting Pokémon FireRed Or LeafGreen On Switch?
@larryisaman
I think that's where I'm at as well.
Psychologically that £7 (it's 16.99 I think) feels quite big.
@ShadLink
Bizarre comments.
I'm not invested in being a 'true fan', and I really hope that's not your motivation for playing games either, but is your choice of course.
No-one is being prevented from having fun with any game;
this a Nintendo website (that one chooses of their own volition to visit) where people talk about games, and sometimes the value proposition of those games.
Them expressing their opinion, no matter how assertively,
doesn't, or at least shouldn't, have any bearing on your enjoyment of any given game.
Re: Review: Virtual Boy For Switch 1 & 2 - Is It Really Worth Revisting Nintendo's Greatest Folly?
@metaphysician
I've read all the replies on this page, and see no outrage.
I see people expressing their opinion on a gaming site about games.
If you would like to quote a particular repsonse,
I could look at it.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - The Legend Of Zelda: Link's Awakening
@Thomystic
It can be changed if need be.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Duel - The Legend Of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Box Art Brawls Current Total:
Europe: 116
Japan: 111
North America: 133
Australia and New Zealand: 1
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Gen 9 Pokémon?
I'm a Dachsbun boy.
Re: Video: Capcom Releases New Monster Hunter Stories 3: Twisted Reflection Trailer
Oh lovely stuff.
This series deserves more affection, buy it!
Re: Nintendo Seemingly Rules Out Virtual Console Revival, Says It Remains Focused On Offering Classics Via Switch Online
@Lanmanna
That seems to be a bad example, as didn't they change course quite quickly?
More broadly, I think western companies are more malevolent, whereas in Japan it comes across as more borne out of stubborness, which I suppose is slightly more commendable (I don't know of course though, I'm not actually in the board rooms).
I've offered quite a sum of money for a simple service or item in Japan and been refused because it is mildy incongruous or deviates slightly from their set course; can be quite comical.
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Gen 8 Pokémon?
@Lycanroc
I always thought the two main legendaries were a missed opportunity;
as the setting was heavily inspired by Britain, they should have been a lion and a unicorn.
Re: Review: Virtual Boy For Switch 1 & 2 - Is It Really Worth Revisting Nintendo's Greatest Folly?
@metaphysician
Who has done this?
Re: Nintendo Seemingly Rules Out Virtual Console Revival, Says It Remains Focused On Offering Classics Via Switch Online
@Mgalens
That's a great point.
Re: Nintendo Seemingly Rules Out Virtual Console Revival, Says It Remains Focused On Offering Classics Via Switch Online
When I'm definitely finished with an argument,
I keep on replying to make sure everyone knows that I'm definitely finished with it.
Re: Nintendo Seemingly Rules Out Virtual Console Revival, Says It Remains Focused On Offering Classics Via Switch Online
@N00BiSH
May I have the cold beer then?
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Gen 8 Pokémon?
Some really cool new Pokemon this generation, with some great variants on existing creatures as well, often willfully misinterpreting British culture, which I quite enjoyed.
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Gen 8 Pokémon?
I'm an Appletun boy.
Re: Nintendo Seemingly Rules Out Virtual Console Revival, Says It Remains Focused On Offering Classics Via Switch Online
F**k them then.
Even if I didn't want Virtual Console (and I do) I'd resent this kind of "Take it and shut up" attitude from Nintendo's refusal to give consumers choice.
Feel like Nintendo need another Wii U style humbling.
At the risk of delving into the political sphere, I've noticed this kind of stance more and more in Japan.
Japanese culture has usually been inflexible, but now it feels to me to be bordering on gratuitous obstinance.
With tourists it's like "Spend money, but f**k off".
But I digress; Switch One is defintely my last Nintendo console.
Don't worry yourselves though, I'll still be here to moan about them.
Re: Nintendo Seemingly Rules Out Virtual Console Revival, Says It Remains Focused On Offering Classics Via Switch Online
@LUIGITORNADO
Surely the solution to the 'scam' is to allow VC purchases to carry over to the next console via a Nintendo account.
@The_Nintendo_Expat
Thank goodness (genuinely) that you're here to expose this nonsense, cheers.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (21st February)
Still making Smash stages.
I'll turn off the lights when I'm done.
Re: Anniversary: The Legend Of Zelda Turns 40 Today - How Did You First Play It?
Link's Awakening on the original Game Boy.
Extremely confusing for a small mammal.
Re: Video: Pokémon Shares Side-By-Side FireRed And LeafGreen Opening Theme
@nessisonett
Right?
They could have at least tarted the games up a bit and added online.
Re: Best Mario Tennis Games Of All Time
@Regulus6891
You sure?
At the end of the piece he says:
"Disagree with this ranking? Feel free to search for your favourite Mario Tennis game below, give them the score they deserve, and potentially influence the order above."
And the ranking order does seem to correspond exactly with the user scores given to each game.
Re: Review: Virtual Boy For Switch 1 & 2 - Is It Really Worth Revisting Nintendo's Greatest Folly?
@electrolite77
"Nintendo are being really odd last couple of years (Clocks, Flower toys, stretchy face Apps, launching a new system with fan favourites rather than the big AAA hitters)."
Almost as though Nintendo don't always take a direct route to profits.
Re: Best Mario Tennis Games Of All Time
All they ever needed to do is keep 64's gameplay, add new characters and locations as the mainline Mario adventures progressed; leave the wacky innovation to the big Mario titles.
@Regulus6891
Isn't it based on voting?
Re: Review: Virtual Boy For Switch 1 & 2 - Is It Really Worth Revisting Nintendo's Greatest Folly?
@metaphysician
Nintendo Life readers have been stealing the wallets of other Nintendo Life readers?
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Gen 7 Pokémon?
I'm a Togedemaru boy.
Re: Review: Virtual Boy For Switch 1 & 2 - Is It Really Worth Revisting Nintendo's Greatest Folly?
@LastFootnote
I mean, they managed to produce 2D footage for the trailer.
Re: "We Thought It Would Be Fun" - Nintendo Explains Why Pokémon FireRed & LeafGreen Aren't On Switch Online
@Lanmanna
Did indeed, now feel I've had enough of the same.
Re: Review: Virtual Boy For Switch 1 & 2 - Is It Really Worth Revisting Nintendo's Greatest Folly?
Nintendo had three decent options regarding the Virtual Boy catalogue as I see it:
1) As Wario Land was the only good game on the system,
remake it for 3DS.
2) Release all the games on the 3DS Virtual Console.
3) Release on Switch NSO and give people the option to play it in 2D; like how they magically managed to present the games in the trailers.
That they have managed to swerve all these decent options is a really quite heroic display of idiocy.
Re: "We Thought It Would Be Fun" - Nintendo Explains Why Pokémon FireRed & LeafGreen Aren't On Switch Online
The attitude towards consumers is bordering on contempt.
@Samalik
Exactly. The refusal of Nintendo to give people choice is one reason I've decided not to get a Switch 2.
Re: Pokémon FireRed And LeafGreen Officially Revealed For Switch
Yeah, I'm already paying money for NSO.
I don't mind a remake, but they need to actually do something to it.
And I'd like more standalone Virtual Console like releases, but those cost around $10.
With the nonsense of paying extra to actually play the Virtual Boy app as well,
NSO is starting to look like an abusive relationship with Nintendo.
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Gen 6 Pokémon?
I'm a Goodra boy.
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Gen 6 Pokémon?
@KingMike
We don't fight Pokemon gym leaders for challenge.
Re: Poll: What's Your Favourite Gen 6 Pokémon?
I love this generation.
I thought the Parisian setting was great,
and the addition of the Fairy type was much needed and added a lot.
The title legendaries are fantastic.
Greninja is iconic and subsequently features in Smash Bros.
Dedenne one of the better electric rodent designs.
Sylveon is now a fan favourite.
Aurorus is beautiful.
But my all time favourite Pokemon of any generation is Goodra, both versions.
Re: Community: Pokémon Turns 30 Soon - Send Us Your Pocket Monster Memories
Woah, you guys need to make the location of the contact page a lot less visible, it takes up the whole Nintendo Life page!
Re: Poll: How Would You Rate The Nintendo Classics Virtual Boy Launch Games?
@OmnitronVariant
That is truly appalling.