Zelda outselling historically high-selling Pokemon games is absolutely wild. The open world approach has turned the series into a monstrous powerhouse.
@Yoshif3 Series tend to do better on Switch, but not THAT much better.
The jump from what previous entries were selling to 30+ million units for something like BotW isn't explainable through the popularity of the system alone, or even primarily. Especially since we have remakes and remasters of older Zelda games on the platform, and they've sold a small fraction of what BotW and TotK are doing in record time.
Not to mention the games are two of the most critically acclaimed releases in history.
It's okay to have an unpopular opinion and not like the new style of Zelda, but it's PAINFULLY clear that this is what most people want from the series.
It's been a really good year for Nintendo. Mario movie was massive, and the year was packed with high quality releases. Four of their first-party exclusives this year have scored 90+ on Metacritic, even.
In general, I'm incredibly impressed with how consistently good support has been on the Switch.
@Princess_Lilly The first Star Ocean never even made it overseas until it was remade on PSP, and it didn't make a huge splash when it did. The second and third games were reasonably well-received and sold a few hundred thousand copies, but they're certainly not considered timeless masterpieces by most people.
Subsequent games have tended to be much more poorly received.
I'm not saying it's a bad series, but the low sales of this entry should come as no real surprise.
@Princess_Lilly Consistently praised series like Xenoblade don't manage more than a couple million units at most, and Star Ocean has a reputation for a... mixed level of quality. It's really not a shock that it's not doing well.
@ReaperMelia Thanks for the heads up. They're still a little pricier than I like, but definitely way down from where they were. Might have to snag them from Play Asia or something.
This will only become more drastic over time, aside from when Sony is flogging bundle deals. Super Mario Wonder will sell like brand new for full years while Spider-Man 2 will need to keep rapidly dropping in price to maintain a fraction of its initial attention. Nintendo games occupy a curious space in the market compared to the competition.
Smash Ultimate.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe + Expansion Pass.
Zelda TotK.
So many Nintendo series feel like they're pushing themselves as far as they could reasonably go in terms of scope atm. It'll be interesting to see how they tackle this.
Robust BC support is probably not necessary, but I do think not supporting it would be a pretty big mistake if they don't want the popularity of the console to become a millstone around their necks when the next device is released and they want to move people over.
I'll say this: the difference between bc and no bc is probably the difference between an early upgrade and a late gen upgrade.
@weisske Weird. I don't remember Pokemon games in 2010 being 96 MC GOTY front-runners that massively outsold previous entries and revitalized the series.
This won't be a popular opinion, but I'd love to see the next Splatoon game on the successor go F2P with battle passes (or the Ninty equivalent). It just seems silly to cut off support every couple of years and force players to start over and upgrade to a new entry that only makes changes around the edges of the experience.
Either way, I hope the online is more stable with the next entry. The first few weeks of online play for Splatoon 3 were kind of miserable.
Sounds like a pretty gigantic upgrade if true. The technical limitations of the Switch are its one real problem area. I'd love to see it run demanding Switch games more effectively.
Hopefully battery life is at least comparable to the launch Switch model.
@Clyde_Radcliffe What I was thinking lol. 2D Marios since World have almost all felt more forgiving than their peers. I enjoy the games, but after the intense satisfaction of mastering titles like DKC: Tropical Freeze and Rayman Legends, 2D Marios just lack a little something.
It'll be fine if the base difficulty is higher without the badges, though, or if it goes the Super Mario Odyssey route and features a challenging, extensive post-game for people who want a challenge. Nintendo is usually pretty good about catering to both their casual and more hardcore fans in that regard.
All the complaining about Denuvo, but it has demonstrably slowed PC game piracy to a crawl (in terms of several big releases) now that there's only one cracker working on it.
As long as this is intelligently implemented and doesn't hinder the proper operation of the hardware, I'm all for it. Switch games are literally hitting PC piracy sites before paying customers can access them. It's out of control.
tbh though, given how late in the generation we are, I imagine the focus will be more on Nintendo's next console. They'll have hopefully learned some lessons from the Switch in terms of preventing piracy, or at least making it more difficult to pull off right away.
I feel like 'traditional' mainline Xenoblade game design peaked with XC3 and FR. While I wouldn't say no to more games in that vein, I also feel like there's not a tremendous amount of room for improvement.
So changing things up a bit probably isn't a bad idea.
In game development, as with life, clinging to the past or remaining stationary will eventually lead only to disappointment and regret. You have to accept change, move on, evolve, and embrace what tomorrow brings.
720p/30 is fine for me undocked, which is all I care about. There's gonna be a lot of screaming about the PS5 version, though, haha.
@koekiemonster In fairness, the version of Mario Galaxy in that collection at least saw reworked gyro/touch controls and goes higher than 720p when docked.
I know everyone says "[x] game is perfect for Switch," but this one really is. Just the perfect fit with its short playtimes and 'one more run' addictiveness. Definitely repurchasing later.
@rushiosan I thought the same thing before playing it, to the point where I thought the game's popularity must be a Youtube meme and avoided it for months, but, really, it doesn't matter. The gameplay is so chaotic and full of explosions and particles that the screen would look like a jumbled mess of pixels anyway.
As someone who rarely replays games, I think I'm largely done clinging onto my childhood relics. I'll still keep stuff that would be difficult to access otherwise, but if I can rip and emulate it or access it via NSO/VC, it's going on Ebay.
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Re: Shuntaro Furukawa Claims Recent 'Switch 2' Rumours Are Not Accurate
Nintendo will say anything it think it needs to to maximize sales until the hour before it announces a successor.
Re: Here Are The Top Ten Best-Selling Nintendo Switch Games As Of September 2023
Zelda outselling historically high-selling Pokemon games is absolutely wild. The open world approach has turned the series into a monstrous powerhouse.
Re: Tears Of The Kingdom Continues To Prove That 'Open World Zelda' Is A Best-Selling Formula
@Yoshif3 Series tend to do better on Switch, but not THAT much better.
The jump from what previous entries were selling to 30+ million units for something like BotW isn't explainable through the popularity of the system alone, or even primarily. Especially since we have remakes and remasters of older Zelda games on the platform, and they've sold a small fraction of what BotW and TotK are doing in record time.
Not to mention the games are two of the most critically acclaimed releases in history.
It's okay to have an unpopular opinion and not like the new style of Zelda, but it's PAINFULLY clear that this is what most people want from the series.
Re: Nintendo Records Biggest Q1+2 Sales Figures Since Switch Launch
It's been a really good year for Nintendo. Mario movie was massive, and the year was packed with high quality releases. Four of their first-party exclusives this year have scored 90+ on Metacritic, even.
In general, I'm incredibly impressed with how consistently good support has been on the Switch.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Wonder Soars As WarioWare Lands With A Whimper
@Princess_Lilly The first Star Ocean never even made it overseas until it was remade on PSP, and it didn't make a huge splash when it did. The second and third games were reasonably well-received and sold a few hundred thousand copies, but they're certainly not considered timeless masterpieces by most people.
Subsequent games have tended to be much more poorly received.
I'm not saying it's a bad series, but the low sales of this entry should come as no real surprise.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Wonder Soars As WarioWare Lands With A Whimper
@Princess_Lilly Consistently praised series like Xenoblade don't manage more than a couple million units at most, and Star Ocean has a reputation for a... mixed level of quality. It's really not a shock that it's not doing well.
Re: Review: World Of Horror - One Of The Most Unique Roguelites On Switch
It's a pity there's not a better adapted control scheme for Switch, but I'm still excited to play this. Glad it finally saw a proper 1.0 release.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Still Making Them, So What amiibo Do You Still Want To See?
@ReaperMelia Thanks for the heads up. They're still a little pricier than I like, but definitely way down from where they were. Might have to snag them from Play Asia or something.
Re: Talking Point: Nintendo's Still Making Them, So What amiibo Do You Still Want To See?
I want some Fire Emblem Engage amiibo.
I'd also like to see reprints for some harder to find amiibo like Alm and Celica.
And where's my Lyn amiibo?
Also, gimme the entire XC3 cast.
Re: Review: Star Ocean: The Second Story R - One Of The Very Best RPGs Of The Year
This is probably the best implementation of an HD-2D artstyle I've seen to date.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For WarioWare: Move It!
Yeah, as expected, the controls are the issue. Pity, since otherwise it looks like a much funner WarioWare game than Get It Together!
Re: Talking Point: "This Is Only The Beginning" - What Should Konami Do With Metal Gear Next?
For god's sake, rescue MGS4 from PS3 obscurity. I've wanted to play it for years, but went with the 360 that gen.
So yeah, Master Collection 2.
Re: Review: Castlevania Legends - A 'Vania So Poor It Got Booted From Canon
@StephenYap3 Good boy.
It's no Super C or anything, but I've always been impressed with it considering how GB spinoffs often turn out.
Re: Review: Castlevania Legends - A 'Vania So Poor It Got Booted From Canon
@StephenYap3 Blasphemer. Operation C was a perfectly decent Contra game. Very good for the hardware.
Re: Soapbox: No, Mario Wonder's Most-Annoying Character Isn't The Talking Flower
@Justaguest Nah. Things are intolerable in English. It's like the voices were scientifically formulated to be as obnoxious as possible.
Re: Soapbox: No, Mario Wonder's Most-Annoying Character Isn't The Talking Flower
Didn't bother me. Had to turn the flowers to another language, though; the English voices were driving me nuts.
Re: UK Charts: Mario Wonder Jumps Ahead Of Spider-Man 2 And Takes The Top Spot
This will only become more drastic over time, aside from when Sony is flogging bundle deals. Super Mario Wonder will sell like brand new for full years while Spider-Man 2 will need to keep rapidly dropping in price to maintain a fraction of its initial attention. Nintendo games occupy a curious space in the market compared to the competition.
Re: Sakurai Is Sceptical That Future Smash Bros. Titles Can Match Ultimate's Scope
Smash Ultimate.
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe + Expansion Pass.
Zelda TotK.
So many Nintendo series feel like they're pushing themselves as far as they could reasonably go in terms of scope atm. It'll be interesting to see how they tackle this.
Re: Capcom Has A "Major" Unannounced Title Scheduled To Arrive Before March 2024
@Fizza If nothing else, the second trilogy collection releasing soon probably means we're closer to AA7 than ever now.
I can dream.
Re: Hogwarts Legacy Physical & Digital Switch Release Will Require 8GB "Day 1" Update
I'll just grab it digitally if it's a good port, then.
Really, really curious to see how this turns out.
Re: Talking Point: Along With Joy-Con Drift, What Does Nintendo Have To 'Fix' With 'Switch 2'?
Give me back the good activity log from Wii U/3DS!
But yeah, if there's no OLED option from the start, I might just wait for the inevitable OLED revision.
Re: Random: Upcoming 'Like A Dragon' Title Is Basically Animal Crossing Now
LMAO They just casually put Animal Crossing: New Horizons into the new Yakuza as a side mode.
Love it. I really need to catch up with this series.
Re: Random: Nintendo Gives Princess Peach Some Facial Tweaks In 'Showtime!' Key Art
It's better. Actually, Kung-Fu Peach looks way better on the newer cover.
Actual personality for the girl. Never thought I'd see the day.
Re: Alan Wake And Michael Myers Join Fortnite For Its Annual Halloween Event
This is even more embarrassing than when Michael Myers got his butt kicked by Busta Rhymes.
Re: Soapbox: 'Switch 2' Doesn't Really Need Backwards Compatibility
Robust BC support is probably not necessary, but I do think not supporting it would be a pretty big mistake if they don't want the popularity of the console to become a millstone around their necks when the next device is released and they want to move people over.
I'll say this: the difference between bc and no bc is probably the difference between an early upgrade and a late gen upgrade.
Re: Upcoming Prodeus DLC 'The Elder Veil' Looks Utterly Ridiculous And Brilliant
This looks amazing. Wish I'd gotten to it before the base game left GP.
Re: Missing Pushmo? Indie Game 'PictoPull' Might Be The Next Best Thing
Literally just Pushmo lol.
Re: Video: Super Mario RPG Gets Another Side-By-Side Graphics Comparison (Switch & SNES)
@Joeynator3000 I'll watch any video that catches my eye. It helps that I don't really follow online drama.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom's Strong Sales Continue Months After Launch (US)
@weisske Weird. I don't remember Pokemon games in 2010 being 96 MC GOTY front-runners that massively outsold previous entries and revitalized the series.
Re: Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Noah & Mio amiibo Will Live To Fight In January 2024
"Consul M’s Armor for Mio"
Yeeeeeeeees!
Was so bummed when I found out you couldn't unlock that outfit for her.
@xshinox I want the whole crew, honestly. But Eunie is the biggest miss for me, too.
Re: Trombone Champ Makes Noise On Switch With Gyro Controls Today
Still not entirely convinced this wasn't a joke announcement.
Re: F-ZERO 99 Turns The Classic Racer Into A 99-Player Battle Royale, On NSO Today
PURE chaos.
Definitely downloading this.
Re: Princess Peach: Showtime! Opens On Switch In March 2024
Game of the Direct. It's like they turned Peach into a G-rated Cutie Honey. All over this.
Re: Poll: Who Will You Be Playing As In Super Mario Bros. Wonder?
I always play as Peach, when given the opportunity.
Re: Talking Point: What Do You Want From A 'Splatoon 4'?
This won't be a popular opinion, but I'd love to see the next Splatoon game on the successor go F2P with battle passes (or the Ninty equivalent). It just seems silly to cut off support every couple of years and force players to start over and upgrade to a new entry that only makes changes around the edges of the experience.
Either way, I hope the online is more stable with the next entry. The first few weeks of online play for Splatoon 3 were kind of miserable.
Re: Lovecraftian Psychological Horror 'Desolatium' Haunts On Switch In Time For Halloween
Interesting visual design. Lovecraft by way of Andy Warhol.
Re: Talking Point: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom DLC - What Would You Have Liked To See?
No thanks. I'd prefer new ideas and development hours go into a new generation of Zelda games. TotK is already overwhelmingly massive as is.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Showed 'Switch 2' Demos To Developers At Gamescom
Sounds like a pretty gigantic upgrade if true. The technical limitations of the Switch are its one real problem area. I'd love to see it run demanding Switch games more effectively.
Hopefully battery life is at least comparable to the launch Switch model.
Re: Soapbox: Rayman Legends Blew My Mind Then Broke My Heart
Rayman Origins/Legends are two of the best non-Nintendo platformers I've played to date. Simply sensational games.
I'd take more in a heartbeat, but I'm satisfied with what we got.
I feel similarly about Mario + Rabbids, which will probably also be dead after this last entry underperformed.
Re: Feature: Nintendo eShop Selects - August 2023
I'll play SoS on Game Pass at some point.
RDR will be a sale purchase down the road.
So just Vampire Survivors for me (again, lol). Still a great game.
Re: Round Up: The Previews Are In For Super Mario Bros. Wonder
@Clyde_Radcliffe What I was thinking lol. 2D Marios since World have almost all felt more forgiving than their peers. I enjoy the games, but after the intense satisfaction of mastering titles like DKC: Tropical Freeze and Rayman Legends, 2D Marios just lack a little something.
It'll be fine if the base difficulty is higher without the badges, though, or if it goes the Super Mario Odyssey route and features a challenging, extensive post-game for people who want a challenge. Nintendo is usually pretty good about catering to both their casual and more hardcore fans in that regard.
Re: Vampire Survivors Tops The Switch eShop Charts In US, UK & Japan
Fully worth the $5, even having played it on GP. It's just perfect for Switch.
Re: Denuvo's 'Switch Emulator Protection' Is Now Available Via Nintendo's Official Dev Portal
All the complaining about Denuvo, but it has demonstrably slowed PC game piracy to a crawl (in terms of several big releases) now that there's only one cracker working on it.
As long as this is intelligently implemented and doesn't hinder the proper operation of the hardware, I'm all for it. Switch games are literally hitting PC piracy sites before paying customers can access them. It's out of control.
tbh though, given how late in the generation we are, I imagine the focus will be more on Nintendo's next console. They'll have hopefully learned some lessons from the Switch in terms of preventing piracy, or at least making it more difficult to pull off right away.
Re: UK Charts: The King Returns As Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Takes The Top Spot
MK8D and GTA V in the top two, haha.
The eternal sales bros are hanging out.
Re: The Next Xenoblade Will Be "Vastly Different" Says Monolith Soft Director
I feel like 'traditional' mainline Xenoblade game design peaked with XC3 and FR. While I wouldn't say no to more games in that vein, I also feel like there's not a tremendous amount of room for improvement.
So changing things up a bit probably isn't a bad idea.
In game development, as with life, clinging to the past or remaining stationary will eventually lead only to disappointment and regret. You have to accept change, move on, evolve, and embrace what tomorrow brings.
Re: Hands On: Metal Gear Solid Master Collection Vol. 1 Could Be So Much More, But Isn't
720p/30 is fine for me undocked, which is all I care about. There's gonna be a lot of screaming about the PS5 version, though, haha.
@koekiemonster In fairness, the version of Mario Galaxy in that collection at least saw reworked gyro/touch controls and goes higher than 720p when docked.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Vampire Survivors On Switch
I know everyone says "[x] game is perfect for Switch," but this one really is. Just the perfect fit with its short playtimes and 'one more run' addictiveness. Definitely repurchasing later.
@rushiosan I thought the same thing before playing it, to the point where I thought the game's popularity must be a Youtube meme and avoided it for months, but, really, it doesn't matter. The gameplay is so chaotic and full of explosions and particles that the screen would look like a jumbled mess of pixels anyway.
Re: Review: Red Dead Redemption - A Fine But No-Frills Switch Port, For A Fistful Of Dollars
Good to hear there aren't any ridiculous porting issues.
I'll grab this once it's $25 or less. I have plenty of play while waiting.
Re: Talking Point: The Games We Got Rid Of - What Were We Thinking?
As someone who rarely replays games, I think I'm largely done clinging onto my childhood relics. I'll still keep stuff that would be difficult to access otherwise, but if I can rip and emulate it or access it via NSO/VC, it's going on Ebay.
Re: Review: Vampire Survivors - Kiss Healthy Sleep Goodbye With This Must-Play Roguelike
Might just buy this again. It's pretty much the perfect portable game. One you can play for twenty minutes or two hours.
The gameplay loop is pure addiction. If video games are elaborate skinner boxes, then it's the purest sort of video game ever made, in that respect.
@Ooccoo_Jr You can unlock all of the stages/characters/weapons/etc., but there's not really anything comparable to a proper story campaign.