UK Charts: Mario Wonder Soars As WarioWare Lands With A Whimper

Well done Mario Wonder, top job.

The Swicth version of EA FC is very poor. And going by the subreddit for the game in general, people aren't happy with this years version. Buggy as hell and poor AI. Thankfully I went physical and can trade in to get some money back.
First time I bought a "FIFA" game in about 5 years, not impressed.

I wonder if it could surpass the 30,32 million sales that NSMBW did. I hope it does.

Utterly bewildered by how Star Ocean: The Second Story R is not on top of the list

@Princess_Lilly It's not that surprising really

@Princess_Lilly I'm going to get the game eventually, but there's just too many games out right now and my backlog just keeps increasing.

I miss the Wii/DS days of £20 releases for smaller games (touch generations stuff etc.). Wario Ware is one that fits that bill in my mind with how short they are/low budget they seem to be. Even though it is more of a budget release at £35 it’s still too steep for it to be an impulse buy. I expect a lot of people are like myself and waiting for a steep drop (I got Get it Together! for £20 after launch and felt that was a sound price for what it was, anything more would have been too much).

@larryisaman Agreed. However good it probably is, it looks like a low-budget indie game from the trailers. Whatever sales it gets at full-price will be from established fans of the series. Other Switch owners are well-served in the months leading up to Christmas with top-tier titles.

Barbie Dreamhouse Adventures was still on number 39. 😊

Tough time for Warioware to come out. I’m the prime target for a game like this but I have 5 or 6 games ahead of it that I want to buy

Warioware isn’t a series that does gangbusters and clearly by the fact we get them so often they don’t have to to be profitable.

@Princess_Lilly Consistently praised series like Xenoblade don't manage more than a couple million units at most, and Star Ocean has a reputation for a... mixed level of quality. It's really not a shock that it's not doing well.

@JohnnyC You sound like someone who doesn't understand the WarioWare aesthetic

@Princess_Lilly Mario is more accessible to more people of any age and has no learning curve etc. plus Mario sells, just look at Mario Kart 8, it's still top 10 and it's an old game. I'm not saying Star Ocean isn't a bad game, but being "utterly bewildered" is a bit extreme.

I suspect WarioWare isn't doing huge numbers because it's mostly multi-player and mostly motion controls (and it's a busy time of year).

Maybe it will find legs over Christmas as people look for something the family can play together?

@Folkloner I said that while it probably is good, it looks cheap. In a period of AAA releases and no shortage of low-budget indie titles, I get why it hasn't captured the attention of the masses.

I love WarioWare but I hate motion controls so I’m skipping it.

It is too bad for WarioWare. I love the franchise and I hope Nintendo won't come to conclusion that they should pass on another sequel. Just, maybe, ditch the motion controls next time. I miss the days of GBA simplicity, and I bet that would work better on Switch.

Wonder deserves to sell in record numbers. They've really put everything into it. It's a 2D Mario with Galaxy levels of care and creativity.

Awesome, I could see it keeping #1 or atleast switching with EAFC for the rest of the year at this rate.

I just had a feeling about Warioware. Get it Together sold relatively poorly, Everybody 1-2 Switch did even worse, and when you have a game that to the average consumer is a combination of the two, after so many minigame collections have released on Swittch, during a year when so many GOTY candidates have come out, especially in the past couple of months, and the game is DOA, regardless of quality.

I love the Warioware series, but I had no interest in Move It.

Yeah, unfortunately WarioWare: Move It! is looking like an important decline compared to Get It Together, and not just in UK.

The Second Story R had a better debut than The Divine Force in terms of ranking (16th v.s. 18th), but we can't go much further than that since we're talking about ranking positions after all

Can't say I'm surprised about WarioWare. Ever since the physical of Pikmin 1+2, there's been a 1st party Switch release every 2 weeks:

• September 22nd - Pikmin 1+2 (physical)
• October 6th - Detective Pikachu Returns
• October 20th - SMB Wonder
• November 3rd - WarioWare Move It
• November 17th - Super Mario RPG

Those kind of extremely packed release schedules mean the smaller games suffer (see Square Enix's lineup at multiple points last year for example).

But I guess in Nintendo's case, that's the result of preparation for next gen. After Switch 2 releases, the only current Switch games released would probably be Pokemon Gen 5 remakes and maybe 1-2 ports/remasters.

Can't believe Wario is sooo low! Had some amazing fun with it over the weekend!

As far as I am concerned Star Ocean is impossible to find anywhere. Physical version I mean.

Mario Kart 8 keeps drifting in the top.

I love Warioware Move It. I haven't played it in multi-player yet, but have had a blast playing single player. I even had fun playing a couple 2 player games, but holding both joy con so I was player 1 and 2. It's a super fun game that I'm enjoying more than Get It Together, which I also really enjoy playing.

I'm sure I'd enjoy WarioWare, but for me this series is kind of a one-a-generation thing. Since I already have Get it Together, that's plenty microgame craziness for me for a while.

I would've rushed out to buy a new Rhythm Heaven day 1 though.

It's really unfortunate that WarioWare is practically the one Nintendo series that hasn't received any real sales boost from being on Switch. Nothing's even come close to Touched or Smooth Moves. I'm glad Nintendo seems committed to the series regardless, even giving it its own website portal recently among much larger IPs, but I hope one day the series can really take off again.

You belong to the top Mario! Just a little more, until more Mario goodness releases.

@larryisaman I love Wario and mini games in general. But I don’t have many opportunities to play with friends and motion controls are kind of a turn off for me. Throw in that it should not be priced more than $30, if that and I will wait for a sale if I decide to get it at all.

@JakedaArbok Get it Together sold 1.34 million. That’s pretty respectable for a niche title and probably did not cost much to make.

@rockodoodle
You have to be really niche or a really poor game for a Nintendo-published title to sell less than a million units on Switch. It’s still nothing to sneeze at, but one would think that a game starting a member of the Mario cast marketed around multiplayer could sell slightly better. Additionally, it came out during somewhat of a lull period for both Nintendo-published games and games in general. Get it Together is a good game in my opinion, I’m really just talking about sales.

I know WarioWare usually has a smaller audience but yikes is that a rough debut

@JakedaArbok I see what you are saying. But the flip side is that Wario is even cheaper filler material than Kirby- I love Kirby, but it seems like every time I turn around, there’s a new Kirby game.

@HaileySheridon Wario Ware games are probably quite cheap to make and relatively quick to produce versus a Wario Land. I’d love to see Land come back but I don’t think Wario Ware has any bearing on whether a new Land gets made or not, they’ve always co-existed before

@rockodoodle
Fair enough, I can definitely see Nintendo keeping at it with continued sequels into the Switch’s successor due to the decreased production costs. I do wonder if they’ll go back to the Smooth Moves style anymore after this, though.

Am I the only person who is disappointment with wonder? The game is way too easy and the levels are way too short.

@Ralizah On the other hand, mediocre copypaste 6/10 games sell in dozens of millions.

Also, Star Ocean 1 - 3 are considered timeless masterpieces, some of the most influencial RPGs of the 90s and 00s

Wonder is prob my fav first-party Nintendo game since Kirby and the Forgotten Land.

@Princess_Lilly The first Star Ocean never even made it overseas until it was remade on PSP, and it didn't make a huge splash when it did. The second and third games were reasonably well-received and sold a few hundred thousand copies, but they're certainly not considered timeless masterpieces by most people.

Subsequent games have tended to be much more poorly received.

I'm not saying it's a bad series, but the low sales of this entry should come as no real surprise.

@Ralizah sure, but most people haven't heard of RPGs outside of Cyberpunk and Final Fantasy XVI

I'm taking my time with Mario Wonder and sprinkling in a bit of Splatoon 3 here and there until Super Mario RPG comes out. Hope to get SMRPG finished before Indigo Disk dlc releases. I'll save Star Ocean for my Christmas list.

Nice to see Wonder at #1 again. Already off to a good start and this game will continue to sell for a while.

@JakedaArbok I wish Nintendo would do more mini game, smaller games like street pass, Rusty’s real deal base ball, steel diver etc. I think there’s a market for these games in general, especially at the price point of $10-$40….

@Princess_Lilly Lol Xenoblade says hello

@rockodoodle
It feels like Nintendo wants to try budget games without trying budget games. It’s either 50 or the rare 40 dollar game, or really bare bones games like Big Brain or Everybody 1-2 Switch.

The Kirby budget titles have been great, though, especially Dream Buffet.

Man I wish star ocean the 2nd story sells more so we can get more rpg like that, maybe even new star ocean games with graphics like this 😕

…I’m still planning to get WarioWare: Move It…

Star Ocean 2nd R is next to impossible to find physically here in Australia unless you preordered it.

Can't get the switch version at all in the normal stores and there aren't too many PS5 versions around either but it's still getable at the moment.

Unfortunate but not surprising. At this point in the Switch’s life it has such strong titles, some quite new, that have consistent sales.

Warioware would be more successful earlier in a console cycle.

WarioWare probably would have done better had it released during a mid-year drought as Get It Together did two years ago. During the holiday period, there's far too much competition, and only so much money that families have to spend.

I'm probably in the minority that would take 10 WarioWares over Mario Wonder. As good as it is from a technical point of view, I found myself feeling nostalgic for New Super Mario Bros. on DS, while WarioWare is a game I'll keep coming back to long after I've 100%'ed Wonder.

I don't know why Wonder hasn't wowed me as much as it probably should have. Maybe my opinion will change between now and the credits (I've 100%'ed the first two worlds so far).

Here's hoping that WarioWare sells enough in the long term to keep the series afloat. I'd be absolutely chuffed to keep getting a new entry every 2 years. I think the next logical step (if it winds up on Switch) is to revisit WarioWare: Twisited, either as a remake or a new game, which would probably restrict it to handheld mode only.

@Princess_Lilly you're bewildered that Star Ocean Second Story R isn't number 1 on a list containing a New Mainline Mario Title?

We're talking about a Series of RPGs that's gotten worse with it's recent entries. I love the Second one and I plan to buy it during Black Friday but I wouldn't be bewildered or surprised by this.

@NeoTricksterZ sure, but I didn't mean like nr 1, top of the list like maybe 2nd or 3rd

I doubt people remember Integrity and Faithlessness. When I think about Star Ocean, 1 to 3 come to mind (4 had some good sides too). I think it could be that people can't be bothered to play something that requires pushing more than 1 button to win

I don't think it's gonna be cheaper on black friday considering it's a new release, but then again I'm not from US and in Europe black friday means maybe -10% on something that stores want to get rid of.

@JakedaArbok 1-2 Switch and the sequel nobody wanted were such a travesty. I could maybe see paying $10 for those if I really had money burning a hole in my pocket….as much as I love the Switch, Nintendo really dropped the ball with budget and mini games….