Is this guy still defending this game? Good lord. I feel like this must be the 3rd or so article where the producer has been whining in some way about this game. It comes off as if he's apologizing. I know the game has a fanbase but as far as I'm concerned, it has failed utterly as a Mario RPG or Paper Mario game. At this rate I think it'd be best to simply rebrand these games rather than continue to use the Paper Mario name. If the title is barely going to play anything like the older games, just rebrand it as something else and drop the Paper Mario from the title. Continuing to use the Paper Mario brand for games that barely have anything to do with the original or TTYD is just going to make people mad.
All of this is assuming I even believe the claims that the old guard is making it this hard to make creative use of the Mario branding. Considering how off the wall Mario Oddy was, I'm not entirely sure I buy the idea that the higher ups at Nintendo somehow forced the development team to fill their more recent Paper Mario games with Toads, removing anything remotely resembling an RPG, etc. Considering how imaginative the games prior to Sticker Star were, I really doubt any of this is true. The more this producer tries to defend the game, the less interested I become in Origami King. Definitely not a good way to get people to buy your game.
Honestly I agree with the notion that people buy it purely based on the title being Pokemon. The majority of my friends who bought the game did so because it was Pokemon, but they were also fairly happy with it, too. I have another friend looking to buy a Switch and one of their top priorities is Sword and Shield. Even knowing what I know about the game, I myself have debated buying the game numerous times simply because it's Pokemon. There's also a degree of peer pressure involved with Pokemon games, as these are social games that are vastly more fun when played with others. The more people buy Pokemon Sword and Shield, the more people will want them so they can play it too. This is what brought me into the Pokemon fold in the first place. I saw kids are school playing it and I got into it. Then my friends wanted to play it. Now it's the same thing all over again, all of my friends are playing it and I'm finding myself more and more likely to buy a copy and join them.
If Pokemon has taught me one thing, it's that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Not really sure I understand the statement that Mario is "just Toads". I've played pretty much every single Mario game and I can tell you, it's not just Toads.There's tons of characters they can bring back to use in the games. I get that they don't want to pull a Sega and end up making more characters than the games can support (or risk stealing Mario's spotlight), but restricting it to the point that you're forced to use Toads is pretty senseless. The games prior to Sticker Star weren't like that at all.
Just sounds like a lot of whining from a producer who has continued to fail to capture what made the first few Paper Mario games great. Definitely does not encourage me to try the game at all.
The Melee community was toxic even waaay back when it was still fairly new. There's always been something about that particular game that just brings out the worst in people a lot. They're snobbish, elitist, etc. The fact they cause this guy so much grief is hardly a surprise.
Not interested in Paper Mario games that aren't really Paper Mario games, so I'm still gonna pass. Wake me up when we get another game in the vein of the original or TTYD. I learned my lesson with Sticker Star.
Is this why the newer games are so full of Toads? Either way, I hate this and it's one of many reasons I stopped buying modern Paper Mario titles. The creative characters found in games like Paper Mario, TTYD, and Superstar Saga are one of the reasons I love those games. It gives the games personality and charm, which is something I felt the series has lacked since Sticker Star. All they've done is load the games up with Toads and paper jokes and we're expected to enjoy it.
I hate Brie Larson and find her completely insufferable but this still got a chuckle out of me. I can only imagine the conversation that must have taken place.
"You're spending too much time with Mario instead of me!"
While I also disagree that 3D World/Land is Nintendo's greatest achievement, I myself am a big fan of those two games. I absolutely love the style of 3D World and I'm still waiting for it to either come to Switch or get a sequel. Mario Galaxy 1/2 are pretty great too and I wouldn't mind a Galaxy 3.
The Splatterhouse game is the main attraction for me and I definitely don't agree it's "ignored" by the retro community, people have been talking about it all the time for years. I see it in youtube videos all the time.
Kinda figured this is where things were going. Hate to say it but I'm glad I jumped ship when I did. My interest in the current Pokemon games couldn't be less right now. The fact that Pokemon Let's Go looks the most appealing Pokemon game to me right now speaks volumes.
Since I hacked my Wii to play GC games and other things, I still play my Wii as well. It's a great console and still one of my favorite modern consoles to this day.
Yes, it's called level scaling and it's been a thing in rpgs for over a decade now. You know Pokemon has fallen way behind the curve when level scaling is touted as a big new thing. It's a pretty controversial mechanic with a lot of players hating it and a lot of players loving it. It became something of a meme with Skyrim because of how disproportionately strong some of the regular enemies were compared to the fixed level bosses. Not sure how well it'll work in a Pokemon game but it could prevent issues that we've seen in the past where the game becomes a cakewalk, or encourage people to use something other than their starter.
I'd be more interested in seeing an entire Pokemon game designed more like the wild area, personally.
I would normally pick 3D World, but I'd much rather 3D Land and World get their own collection/definitive edition release. I'm actually surprised how many voted Sunshine. I picked Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, and Mario Land 2.
It'd be worth it for Space Invaders Extreme alone. I have Extreme 2 and love it. Throw in Space invaders 95 and I'd say it's a great collection. With the way it is right now though, I don't think we're missing out on that much. I'd buy it though for a decent price just for an excuse to play Extreme.
That plus the fact the real Splatterhouse is on the other Switch collection so I imagine they're trying not to cannibalize any potential sales of it since the inclusion of Splatterhouse was a big selling point for a lot of fans. I imagine a lot less people are interested in Wanpaku Graffiti, though. I'd be interested in seeing it included though for the sake of having an officially translated and released version.
Neo Turf Masters is pretty legit, but I haven't tried Golf Story yet. I fully intend to though. NES Open is pretty good too and it was the first golf game I remember playing and liking as a kid.
I'm curious if we're going to get Splatterhouse: Wanpaku Graffiti as that would be the first time the game has been playable in the west, to my knowledge. I would probably pick up the first volume for that alone.
With that said, there's no reason this couldn't all be one pack. I can fit an entire NES library on a 4GB SD card so there's really no excuse to split the volumes up other than money.
I'd be happy just to have an N64 Online service or something similar. Bonus points if they enhance the games in small ways such as improving framerate, removing the weird blur filter, etc.
If they do another F-zero, all I ask is that they let Sega handle it. F-Zero GX was exceedingly well done and proof that Sega is more than up to the task.
Spoilers aside, this is really cool that they included this and just makes me want the game even more. Sadly, I still need to finish Persona 5 Royal before I can get into some beat-em-up goodness.
The Neo Geo Pocket Color is a truly underrated handheld and I'd love to see more titles make it here. I'd much rather play this than that newer SNK Gals game, personally.
Controversy aside I've been waiting for a console version of this game. I'm looking forward to seeing how this shapes up. If the ports are good, I'll definitely be getting this. I love these retro revival games. Between this and games like Xenocrisis, Fight N Rage, and Blazing Chrome, my wallet is going to be in some serious pain.
Burgertime for me, I love that game. I know it's a stretch cause of licensing issues, but the Robocop arcade game would be cool as well. Same for Captain America and the Avengers. I know it'll never happen but an onion can dream.
This would be a fun game for the Switch too due to the portability and short-burst gameplay. I got the game dirt cheap years ago and had some fun with it.
The world maker has been that one thing I've been wanting since the original game. I may have to finally pick up the sequel now! This is a really cool update.
This is the one RE game I was hoping they wouldn't try to remake and it looks like I was wrong. Why not remake the games that actually need it? The most logical next step would have been Code Veronica, instead they pick the one RE game that every electronic device and some kitchen appliances runs. I love RE4 and I'm very nostalgic for it but at this point I'm just like "enough with this game already". At this point I'd sooner see a remake of the GBC Resident Evil Gaiden. Resident Evil 4 was one of those rare moments in gaming where a developer team absolutely nails it and hits a home run, and now they're probably going to ruin it. While I loved the RE2 and 3 remakes, the remake for 3 was less than stellar in my opinion and a bit of a step down from the last remake.
I was concerned Capcom was going to do what Capcom does and milk this and that's absolutely what it looks like they're going to do. Meanwhile, Dino Crisis 1 and 2 could really use some love. Why not give those a remake? Oh well, whatever. Chances are I'll end up buying it anyway.
Sadly a lot of people are getting the virus from nursing homes. This really sucks. I loved Star Fox 64 and Peppy's constant need to be a flying tutorial added a lot of charm to the game for me personally. I hate this damn virus.
Adding the classic versions of characters was a smart move considering that SoR Remake did the same and is a great way to please most fans. For me, those SoR2 sprites will always be top notch. I'll be curious to see if the classic versions also play differently or have subtle differences.
Also was that Shiva I saw in the character select? If they make it so he's fully playable and not semi broken the way he was in SoR3, that'll be really awesome. Some of the lighting effects on the sprites in that video are pretty cool too. Not sure if it'll be a day one for me, but I'm definitely getting it at some point.
I think it'd be really neat if they remade Quackshot, I've never played it personally but it looks like a fun game and all my friends seem to hold it in fairly high regard. Also, Rescue Rangers remake please?
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Re: Paper Mario Producer Says "It's A Necessity" To Change The Combat System In Every Entry
Is this guy still defending this game? Good lord. I feel like this must be the 3rd or so article where the producer has been whining in some way about this game. It comes off as if he's apologizing. I know the game has a fanbase but as far as I'm concerned, it has failed utterly as a Mario RPG or Paper Mario game. At this rate I think it'd be best to simply rebrand these games rather than continue to use the Paper Mario name. If the title is barely going to play anything like the older games, just rebrand it as something else and drop the Paper Mario from the title. Continuing to use the Paper Mario brand for games that barely have anything to do with the original or TTYD is just going to make people mad.
All of this is assuming I even believe the claims that the old guard is making it this hard to make creative use of the Mario branding. Considering how off the wall Mario Oddy was, I'm not entirely sure I buy the idea that the higher ups at Nintendo somehow forced the development team to fill their more recent Paper Mario games with Toads, removing anything remotely resembling an RPG, etc. Considering how imaginative the games prior to Sticker Star were, I really doubt any of this is true. The more this producer tries to defend the game, the less interested I become in Origami King. Definitely not a good way to get people to buy your game.
Re: Rare Celebrates Its 35th Anniversary
@Emperor-Palpsy
I would like that as well to be honest.
Re: Sword And Shield Are Now The Best-Selling Pokémon Games Since Gold And Silver
Honestly I agree with the notion that people buy it purely based on the title being Pokemon. The majority of my friends who bought the game did so because it was Pokemon, but they were also fairly happy with it, too. I have another friend looking to buy a Switch and one of their top priorities is Sword and Shield. Even knowing what I know about the game, I myself have debated buying the game numerous times simply because it's Pokemon. There's also a degree of peer pressure involved with Pokemon games, as these are social games that are vastly more fun when played with others. The more people buy Pokemon Sword and Shield, the more people will want them so they can play it too. This is what brought me into the Pokemon fold in the first place. I saw kids are school playing it and I got into it. Then my friends wanted to play it. Now it's the same thing all over again, all of my friends are playing it and I'm finding myself more and more likely to buy a copy and join them.
If Pokemon has taught me one thing, it's that if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Re: Paper Mario Producer Says Team Is "No Longer Able To Graphically Represent Individual Characteristics" In Toad NPCs
Not really sure I understand the statement that Mario is "just Toads". I've played pretty much every single Mario game and I can tell you, it's not just Toads.There's tons of characters they can bring back to use in the games. I get that they don't want to pull a Sega and end up making more characters than the games can support (or risk stealing Mario's spotlight), but restricting it to the point that you're forced to use Toads is pretty senseless. The games prior to Sticker Star weren't like that at all.
Just sounds like a lot of whining from a producer who has continued to fail to capture what made the first few Paper Mario games great. Definitely does not encourage me to try the game at all.
Re: Top Smash Melee Player Unsure About Future Involvement In Competitive Scene
The Melee community was toxic even waaay back when it was still fairly new. There's always been something about that particular game that just brings out the worst in people a lot. They're snobbish, elitist, etc. The fact they cause this guy so much grief is hardly a surprise.
Re: Still Not Convinced On Paper Mario: The Origami King? This Accolades Trailer Might Do The Trick
Not interested in Paper Mario games that aren't really Paper Mario games, so I'm still gonna pass. Wake me up when we get another game in the vein of the original or TTYD. I learned my lesson with Sticker Star.
Re: Shin Megami Tensei V Is Getting A Simultaneous Global Launch On Nintendo Switch Next Year
Finally! Been wondering when we'd get a new SMT.
Re: Paper Mario Producer Says It's No Longer Possible To Modify Mario Characters
Is this why the newer games are so full of Toads? Either way, I hate this and it's one of many reasons I stopped buying modern Paper Mario titles. The creative characters found in games like Paper Mario, TTYD, and Superstar Saga are one of the reasons I love those games. It gives the games personality and charm, which is something I felt the series has lacked since Sticker Star. All they've done is load the games up with Toads and paper jokes and we're expected to enjoy it.
Re: Random: Brie Larson's Boyfriend Said She Was Taking Super Mario Galaxy Too Seriously, So She Threw Him Out
I hate Brie Larson and find her completely insufferable but this still got a chuckle out of me. I can only imagine the conversation that must have taken place.
"You're spending too much time with Mario instead of me!"
While I also disagree that 3D World/Land is Nintendo's greatest achievement, I myself am a big fan of those two games. I absolutely love the style of 3D World and I'm still waiting for it to either come to Switch or get a sequel. Mario Galaxy 1/2 are pretty great too and I wouldn't mind a Galaxy 3.
Re: Herzog Zwei Is The Next Sega Ages Classic To Come To Switch
This is great news as I've always been a huge fan of this game and always thought it really needed some online play to spice it up.
Re: Review: Namco Museum Archives Vol 1 - A Great Way To Rediscover Namco's Classic NES Titles
The Splatterhouse game is the main attraction for me and I definitely don't agree it's "ignored" by the retro community, people have been talking about it all the time for years. I see it in youtube videos all the time.
Re: The Pokémon Unite Presentation Has Already Been Disliked 150,000 Times
Kinda figured this is where things were going. Hate to say it but I'm glad I jumped ship when I did. My interest in the current Pokemon games couldn't be less right now. The fact that Pokemon Let's Go looks the most appealing Pokemon game to me right now speaks volumes.
Re: Taito's November Update For Bubble Bobble 4 Friends Will Double The Number Of Levels
Glad they're still doing updates like this. I'm still on the fence but nice updates like this help push me closer to buying.
Re: Square Enix Updates The Switch Version Of Final Fantasy VII To Version 1.0.2
Good to see they're still ironing these games out, definitely makes it more likely that I'll purchase them later on down the line.
Re: Rumour: Pokémon Fans Speculate That Next Week's 'Big' Announcement Is Let's Go Johto
As a huge fan of Gen 2 and Johto in general, this would probably be enough to get me to bite on the Let's Go games and give them a try.
That aside though this seems like a reach.
Re: Nintendo's Wii Is Still A Hit In Care Homes 13 Years Later
Since I hacked my Wii to play GC games and other things, I still play my Wii as well. It's a great console and still one of my favorite modern consoles to this day.
Re: Soapbox: I've Been Playing Animal Crossing: New Horizons Wrong All This Time, But No More
Reading this reminded me that I still haven't unlocked terraforming. Now I'm sad.
Re: Hail To The King, Baby - Duke Nukem 3D Is Coming To Switch This Month
I played through this on PS4 and it's a great package overall. 9.99 is a nice deal too. Worth picking up for sure unless they botch the porting.
Re: People Keep Buying The Wrong Pokémon Sword And Shield DLC
Sounds like the Fire Emblem Fates situation all over again.
Re: Pokémon Sword And Shield's Expansion Pass Will Adapt To Suit Your Own Pokémon's Levels
Yes, it's called level scaling and it's been a thing in rpgs for over a decade now. You know Pokemon has fallen way behind the curve when level scaling is touted as a big new thing. It's a pretty controversial mechanic with a lot of players hating it and a lot of players loving it. It became something of a meme with Skyrim because of how disproportionately strong some of the regular enemies were compared to the fixed level bosses. Not sure how well it'll work in a Pokemon game but it could prevent issues that we've seen in the past where the game becomes a cakewalk, or encourage people to use something other than their starter.
I'd be more interested in seeing an entire Pokemon game designed more like the wild area, personally.
Re: Talking Point: The Time Is Right For Microsoft And Nintendo To Get Comfier With One Another
Killer Instinct and Rare Replay on Switch, please.
Re: Nintendo Hosts Monstrous Summer Sale On Switch, Almost 1,300 Games Discounted (North America)
Half the stuff I bought in the last two weeks is now on sale. I am one bitter onion.
Re: Poll: Which Remastered Mario Games Would You Pick For A 'Super Mario All-Stars 2'?
I would normally pick 3D World, but I'd much rather 3D Land and World get their own collection/definitive edition release. I'm actually surprised how many voted Sunshine. I picked Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, and Mario Land 2.
Re: Review: Space Invaders: The Invincible Collection - 40 Years Of History In One Package
It'd be worth it for Space Invaders Extreme alone. I have Extreme 2 and love it. Throw in Space invaders 95 and I'd say it's a great collection. With the way it is right now though, I don't think we're missing out on that much. I'd buy it though for a decent price just for an excuse to play Extreme.
Re: Looks Like Bandai Namco Is Bringing Its Retro Collection To The West As Namco Museum Archives
@Noid
That plus the fact the real Splatterhouse is on the other Switch collection so I imagine they're trying not to cannibalize any potential sales of it since the inclusion of Splatterhouse was a big selling point for a lot of fans. I imagine a lot less people are interested in Wanpaku Graffiti, though. I'd be interested in seeing it included though for the sake of having an officially translated and released version.
Re: Feature: Best Nintendo Switch Golf Games
Neo Turf Masters is pretty legit, but I haven't tried Golf Story yet. I fully intend to though. NES Open is pretty good too and it was the first golf game I remember playing and liking as a kid.
Re: Looks Like Bandai Namco Is Bringing Its Retro Collection To The West As Namco Museum Archives
I'm curious if we're going to get Splatterhouse: Wanpaku Graffiti as that would be the first time the game has been playable in the west, to my knowledge. I would probably pick up the first volume for that alone.
With that said, there's no reason this couldn't all be one pack. I can fit an entire NES library on a 4GB SD card so there's really no excuse to split the volumes up other than money.
Re: Hardware Classics: Sega Game Gear - The System Which Spawned The Game Gear Micro
I love the Game Gear to be perfectly honest, even with all its flaws. The micro though, not so much.
Re: Sega Celebrates Its 60th Anniversary With A Micro Version Of The Game Gear
They look like little pieces of plastic. Even the Shining Force micro isn't sweet enough to get me to buy these overpriced things.
Re: Review: Bug Fables: The Everlasting Sapling - A Lovely Indie Tribute To Paper Mario
I love the old Paper Mario games so I may give this a try.
Re: Story Of Seasons: Friends Of Mineral Town File Size Revealed, 10 New Screenshots
I love the Mineral Town games but this art style is a real turn off. I'll likely still get it anyway though.
Re: Famitsu Poll Reveals Readers' Favourite Fire Emblem Games
I love Genealogy of the Holy War but I think my personal favorite is still Path of Radiance.
Re: 33 Years Later, Japanese Famicom RPG Hoshi wo Miru Hito Is Being Rereleased On Switch
I feel like I've heard of this game recently. Supposedly it has a reputation for being just okay. I'm always down for unreleased jrpgs so bring it on!
Re: Soapbox: Switch Really Needs Games Like Excitebike 64, Wave Race, 1080° Snowboarding And, Yes, F-Zero
I'd be happy just to have an N64 Online service or something similar. Bonus points if they enhance the games in small ways such as improving framerate, removing the weird blur filter, etc.
If they do another F-zero, all I ask is that they let Sega handle it. F-Zero GX was exceedingly well done and proof that Sega is more than up to the task.
Re: Guide: Streets Of Rage 4 Secret Retro Level Locations
Spoilers aside, this is really cool that they included this and just makes me want the game even more. Sadly, I still need to finish Persona 5 Royal before I can get into some beat-em-up goodness.
Re: Neo Geo Pocket Color Title SNK Gals' Fighters Is Available Now On Nintendo Switch
The Neo Geo Pocket Color is a truly underrated handheld and I'd love to see more titles make it here. I'd much rather play this than that newer SNK Gals game, personally.
Re: 3D Realms' Ion Fury Brings Old-School FPS To Switch Next Month
Controversy aside I've been waiting for a console version of this game. I'm looking forward to seeing how this shapes up. If the ports are good, I'll definitely be getting this. I love these retro revival games. Between this and games like Xenocrisis, Fight N Rage, and Blazing Chrome, my wallet is going to be in some serious pain.
Re: Hamster Is Adding A Handful Of Data East Classics To The Arcade Archives
Burgertime for me, I love that game. I know it's a stretch cause of licensing issues, but the Robocop arcade game would be cool as well. Same for Captain America and the Avengers. I know it'll never happen but an onion can dream.
Re: The Japan Retro Game Association Offers Super Famicoms To Avoid Lockdown Boredom
This is actually pretty cool. I wouldn't mind that bundle myself just for the copy of FF6.
Re: Bandai Namco Offers "More Fun For Everyone", Except Switch Owners
This would be a fun game for the Switch too due to the portability and short-burst gameplay. I got the game dirt cheap years ago and had some fun with it.
Re: Super Mario Maker 2's Final Major Update Arrives April 22nd, Adds World Maker Mode, Frog Suit, And Koopalings
The world maker has been that one thing I've been wanting since the original game. I may have to finally pick up the sequel now! This is a really cool update.
Re: Random: Animal Crossing: New Horizons Is "Dumb" And "For Children" Says Business Insider Column
I've seen some pretty bad articles on that site but this one might take the cake.
Re: Feature: Trials Of Mana Producers On The Challenges Of Remaking A Classic 16-Bit RPG
I would kill for a Legend of Mana Switch port, actually.
Re: Random: Super Mario Reimagined With Striking 'Cel-Shaded' Look By Cosplayer
A little too over-designed for my tastes, but pretty cool regardless.
Re: Random: Of Course Someone's Made Super Mario Bros. 1-1 In Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Now someone just needs to do Green Hill Zone from Sonic the Hedgehog and my life will be complete.
Re: Poll: Does Resident Evil 4 Really Need The REmake Treatment?
This is the one RE game I was hoping they wouldn't try to remake and it looks like I was wrong. Why not remake the games that actually need it? The most logical next step would have been Code Veronica, instead they pick the one RE game that every electronic device and some kitchen appliances runs. I love RE4 and I'm very nostalgic for it but at this point I'm just like "enough with this game already". At this point I'd sooner see a remake of the GBC Resident Evil Gaiden. Resident Evil 4 was one of those rare moments in gaming where a developer team absolutely nails it and hits a home run, and now they're probably going to ruin it. While I loved the RE2 and 3 remakes, the remake for 3 was less than stellar in my opinion and a bit of a step down from the last remake.
I was concerned Capcom was going to do what Capcom does and milk this and that's absolutely what it looks like they're going to do. Meanwhile, Dino Crisis 1 and 2 could really use some love. Why not give those a remake? Oh well, whatever. Chances are I'll end up buying it anyway.
Re: The Voice Behind Star Fox 64's Most Famous Line Has Died From Coronavirus
Sadly a lot of people are getting the virus from nursing homes. This really sucks. I loved Star Fox 64 and Peppy's constant need to be a flying tutorial added a lot of charm to the game for me personally. I hate this damn virus.
Re: Streets Of Rage 4 Is Getting Classic Characters, But Confusion Reigns Over Release Date
Adding the classic versions of characters was a smart move considering that SoR Remake did the same and is a great way to please most fans. For me, those SoR2 sprites will always be top notch. I'll be curious to see if the classic versions also play differently or have subtle differences.
Also was that Shiva I saw in the character select? If they make it so he's fully playable and not semi broken the way he was in SoR3, that'll be really awesome. Some of the lighting effects on the sprites in that video are pretty cool too. Not sure if it'll be a day one for me, but I'm definitely getting it at some point.
Re: PlatinumGames Has A Special 'Bonus Stage' Announcement To Make, What Could It Be?
At this point I just want them to shut up already.
Re: FDG's DuckTales Joke Was Actually A Real Pitch To Disney, But It Never Got The License
I think it'd be really neat if they remade Quackshot, I've never played it personally but it looks like a fun game and all my friends seem to hold it in fairly high regard. Also, Rescue Rangers remake please?