The Nintendo NX obsession is strong right now among many vocal Nintendo fans online. You can't get far in comments on Nintendo's social media posts / YouTube videos without encountering lots of "where's NX" posts; as the days tick by the anticipation for the eventual reveal only builds in intensity.
It's hard not to think about Nintendo's next-gen platform, even if concrete indisputable 'facts' are few in number. Ultimately we know the NX will aim to "change the concept" of home console and handheld gaming, and it'll have enough control options / flexibility to support games like The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Just Dance 2017 and the next 'main' Sonic game. Any of you that think it's a button-free dancing robot are off-base, we're afraid to say.
With that limited but guaranteed knowledge in mind, we can fantasize about some of the games we want to see. It's safe to say there'll be the likes of 2D and 3D Mario games, Mario Kart, Smash Bros. and so on, but we thought we'd pick five franchises that we feel are due a comeback or, perhaps, a second chance. In fact, two of the five IPs we've picked have had games this year, but they were arguably not the games fans demanded; seemingly with modest sales to reflect that reality.
So, here are five franchises that deserve a chance to shine on NX, all for rather different reasons.
Metroid Prime or 2D Metroid
Hold the phone, some of you are saying, we just had Metroid Prime: Federation Force on 3DS. We sure did, and this writer thinks it's a decent game when taken by its own merits, and there are a number that feel the same way. Yet it also has fierce critics, among those that own it and some that don't, due to its spin-off nature, the fact it's on 3DS, that it isn't a true continuation of the beloved Retro Studios trilogy, and other reasons besides.
So this is a 'second chance' entry, ultimately. There's talk that Retro Studios could be working on a 'new IP', but only time will tell on that. Besides, it doesn't have to be about who makes the game, but what kind of experience it offers. A primarily solo adventure with a return to the Trilogy's visual style and gameplay approach would be a good start - many naturally want to be Samus once again, too.
We don't expect this one soon, frankly. Unless Retro Studios or someone else has been secretly working on the true number 4 as a surprise early NX title to follow the Federation Force or Corruption story, we could be looking at a 2-3 year wait at least. That's if Nintendo gives the series another chance, or interprets seemingly awful sales for Federation Force as a bad sign and puts it on the scrapheap.
We're also very open to an official 2D Metroid, maybe even one with a retro approach and visual style. The enthusiasm for fan effort AM2R - and the disappointment when it was shutdown by Nintendo - shows there's still an appetite for the classic format.
Kid Icarus
A franchise that had an excellent release (in this writer's opinion) on 3DS, and is well-placed to appeal to gamers of various types - with the right approach. The most divisive aspect of Kid Icarus: Uprising was its controls, so an alternative solution would be needed to strip away that area of contention.
Moving beyond that control scheme, Uprising was packed full of great ideas and content that could move seamlessly into a fresh adventure. Masahiro Sakurai's Sora team (and the localisation crews in Western territories) did a fantastic job of creating an engaging, witty cast of characters. It's a real looker on 3DS, too, with impressive landscapes, stages and high tempo battles. A continuation of the separate 'land' and 'ground' battles could still be in place with a more accessible control scheme, and even beyond the lengthy campaign it was bursting with energy and lovely touches. Collectibles, challenges, online multiplayer and more fleshed it out.
It was a game crafted with a lot of love, and also made the IP perfect fodder for spin-off commercial opportunities - Uprising was accompanied by a mini-series of animated shorts. It's been over four years since the 3DS entry with no serious talk of another; perhaps it can return in the NX generation.
A key question will revolve around Masahiro Sakurai, and whether Nintendo feels the IP has commercial potential. Reputable sources earlier in the year suggested there could be a form of Super Smash Bros. on the NX in its early days, but that could (if true) be a 'Director's Cut' of the Wii U / 3DS versions with all DLC in one package. We don't know what Sakurai-san is working on or how long a break he needs after his exertions of the past few years, but we'd love for him to repeat his Kid Icarus / Smash Bros. development cycle in the next generation, or for Nintendo to utilise his talents as a consultant for another team that does the bulk of the work. He did say years ago that he doesn't want to lead development on a sequel, but plans and feelings change over time.
Star Fox
This may look strange as, like Metroid Prime, it had a game this year on Wii U - Star Fox Zero. Though the fan blowback wasn't quite so harsh as with Federation Force, nevertheless Zero had some similar issues. It didn't push the IP far in terms of moving it forward in terms of story, but was hugely experimental in its usage of the GamePad. It was divisive and split critics and fans alike, and arrived far too late as part of the GamePad rescue project that had begun in early 2014; the Wii U was already past the point of salvation when it arrived to showcase the concept this year, and some fans of the series rejected it. Like most Wii U games released in the past 9-12 months, it had bad timing.
On the one hand the odds of ever seeing a Star Fox game again could be long, if sales of Zero underwhelmed as seems to be the case; it's a franchise that - through Nintendo's experimentation and perhaps mismanagement over the past few generations - has suffered from declining sales. Left-field spin-offs, disappointing releases and well-meaning remasters have struggled to bring sustained success.
Zero, it can be argued, had some nice ideas in terms of stages, with some that incorporated the Walker, Landmaster and Gyrowing in fun ways, albeit often briefly. Perhaps a strategy for Project Save Fox could be to recreate the Zero storyline but with tweaks to support a more conventional control setup, perhaps as a budget download title, and then continue and expand on the story in a bigger, grander adventure in a 'full' retail game later on. Zero stages and enemies would need to be re-designed for more conventional aiming, but that wouldn't necessarily be a hugely onerous task.
We're dreaming, of course, but hopefully Shigeru Miyamoto's own passion for the IP (and the fact Nintendo liked it enough to fund animated short 'The Battle Begins') will keep the series on the board for potential projects in the big N's Kyoto HQ. Zero had good intentions but was a victim to circumstances; the series deserves another opportunity to shine.
WarioWare
One of the safer bets, perhaps, though relevant as the series arguably skipped this generation entirely. Game & Wario on Wii U wasn't really an entry in this series, different in tone and coming off as a collection of minigame concepts that were simply given the Wario name. What we're referring to is the chaotic, quickfire insanity that the real WarioWare games offer.
Whatever the NX concept, WarioWare offers an ideal opportunity for a showcase game that works well as a solo or party experience. As those with DS and Wii entries will recall it's an IP that can take advantage of a system's control options, utilising touch, motion and buttons in imaginative ways. Fast-paced zaniness also seems like a real selling point in this age of social media, GIFs and memes. It offers a chance for Nintendo to show its edgier / wacky brand of fun.
On top of that, it's a franchise with history in user creation, so allowing players to easily create and share their own minigames would give this one a lot of life, not to mention make it popular in online communities. Even if it wouldn't necessarily be a blockbuster hit in sales, it could generate plenty of buzz and foster a dedicated group of fans.
F-Zero
Ah, here it is, the inevitable entry in the 'games we want' article. It feels like such a longshot considering there's been no game in the series since the GameCube era, but let's clutch at straws - there was a minigame honouring the series in Nintendo Land, and the IP featured prominently in the Mario Kart 8 DLC. There were also discussions between Nintendo and Criterion about bringing a game to the Wii U before the console launched, but the talks didn't get far.
Will the series actually return? On the plus side there are those aforementioned examples, and Nintendo has been supportive of Shin'en Multimedia's FAST Racing NEO, which is naturally very different in its way but also makes some reminisce over the Nintendo franchise.
If the series is still to make a return our instinct is that it could be in a smaller form, perhaps as a modestly-sized download exclusive. Nintendo has been burned by underperforming retail titles for less-familiar franchises in the past few years, but it's not outwith reality to suggest that some projects could be produced on a smaller scale with lower costs to test the waters. Perhaps a successful eShop F-Zero could help revive the series.
Ultimately, this one does feel more hopeful than based in reality. Nintendo may feel that a bit of referential Mario Kart DLC is far less hassle, after all.
Of course, there are many more Nintendo franchises that are due a comeback or second chance, albeit we opted for some better-known and (arguably) feasible brands. In our own chat in the team the N64 addicts among us brought up longshots like Wave Race and 1080° Snowboarding, and even Pilotwings came up (despite its modest 3DS launch title). This writer's sure there are also many long-lost RPG franchises with roots in the NES and SNES eras that can be mentioned in the comments, too.
In any case, which of these five in our list would you most like to see in the next few years on NX?
As always hit us up with your own thoughts and lists in the comments. We see little harm in dreaming of the perfect game library for NX, even if the reality's unlikely to be exactly what we all have in mind.
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Come on now, you can't say we've had a Metroid Prime game this year. Federation Force isn't a true Metroid game. Metroid is about exploration and discovery, Federation Force was mission based. We haven't had a true Metroid game for years, and that fact is a very sad one.
Metroid Prime is the only real choice here. Why in heck is Nintendo not pushing Metroid more, which has had a stellar amount of games from the past. This franchise is right for the pickings and if Nintendo doesn't put out a proper Metroid game for the NX I will never come to understand their thinking. Kid Icarus for the 3DS had the most frustrating controls I have seen in a long time. I could never get into the game with such hand cramping controls. Let's hope Nintendo pushes its titles and open up to multiple devs. Look at the PC. It has big and small games that are fantastic.
2D Metroid is an obvious choice.
I'd die for a new Rouge Squadron game (but then i wouldn't be able to play it.. )
Pre-emptive disappointment: the article
Endless Ocean, Pilotwings and Wave Race.
Metroid please. I want it to embrace the best of Metroid Prime and Metroid: Other M. If they can get an engine to work in a 3rd person perspective and switch to 1st person for scanning and shooting. The Metroid Prime series while great fun isn't the full Metroid experience. Samus isn't as agile, fast and can't perform some of her moves from the 2D games.
Second choice would be F-Zero. Hell, just HD GX, add online multiplayer and I'll be happy.
Third would be Kid Icarus. I wouldn't want it to be another Uprising. Rather have an epic 3D adventure. But then that would be creeping into Zelda's territory and I doubt Nintendo would do that.
I don't think Star Fox will see the light of day for some time.
I want to see a true Metroid game, a new WarioWare, and a revival of F-Zero so badly. Make it happen, Nintendo.
Animal Crossing?
I voted for Kid Icarus. I absolutely loved Uprising, and would love to see another entry. I also find it hard to believe that it's been over four years since Uprising released.
I don't think WarioWare can be placed in the same category as these other franchises though. Wave Race definitely would have been a better option.
On Metroid, do note that whatever Retro is currently working on, it is NOT Metroid Prime. That was confirmed by Tanabe at E3 2015. So unless they're making a 2D Metroid, which I strongly doubt, you'll have to wait a while for a new one.
Golden Sun
Castlvania
ActRaiser
Altered Beast
Thunder Force
Panzer Dragoon
Metroid is an obvious choice, I like all of the other franchises but I would rather see a true Chibi-Robo game, a new Animal Crossing game, or a new Golden Sun game. Maybe even a 3D remake that includes the first 2 Golden Sun games.
Nobody remembers Wario Land. Nobody ever remembers Wario Land.
Other than the IPs mentioned, which I love, I want to mention Advance Wars as well. It will probably always live in Fire Emblem's shadow, especially given the success of the more recent entries in the series, but it's a different enough game to increase the appeal of the NX's catalog nevertheless.
Super Mario lost sunshine
yeah but what we will get is new super mario bros NX lol #fail
@mechamen8 the guys who made those no longer exist as a company. EA currently has rights through Disney to make these type of Star Wars games. If we got a new one it would suck.
Don't worry guys! New games are coming to the NX! Get ready for some F-Zero: Amiibo Festival and Kid Icarus: Palutena's Federation Force!!!
Poor Startropics.
@BRAINFOX as strange as it sounds panzer dragoon is the most likely out of your list. This also means no chance of any of them.
@MarcelRguez Wario Land 3 was probably my favourite game on the Gameboy Color. I personally found that the series went downhill from Wario Land 4 and onwards. A game similar to Wario Land 3 I would enjoy, but I kinda lost hope for the series.
If the NX is powerful enough to run a GC emulator we might not be waiting too long. I'd happily pick up Blue Storm or Avalanche again as downloads and they'd work well enough as portable games.
GX needs a full on 1080p60 conversion with online multiplayer. They don't need to change much else.
The one franchise I'd love to see back is Red Steel. I loved the first one and the sequel was pretty boss too.
@MarcelRguez I feel like Advance Wars is in the same category as F-Zero. Both franchises are from the same genre as a more popular franchise (Fire Emblem, Mario Kart) and don't get made as a result, despite the fact that they're different enough to warrant being made.
I do think there's a better chance of a new Advance Wars then there is for F-Zero though.
@Senpai_Bruh To be honest, I'd play that Kid Icarus game. A game where you play as the Centurions? Wouldn't feel anywhere near as out of place as Fed Force.
@MarcelRguez I always remember Wario Land. The first is one of my all-time favorite games, and I'm currently playing through Wario Land 2.
I can think of lots of games that I would like to see on the NX, but at the same time, I know what kind of games we're probably going to get: [Insert beloved franchise here]: Forced Gimmick edition, and another "New" Super Mario Brothers game. Oh, and whatever they're going to call the 9the Mario Kart game.
Metroid, but 2D!! 3 Prime were released in only a handful of years, that's more than enough for now when you look on how sparse the "regular" ones are.
But more importantly, I want to see titles with unknow names to start with. Who are talked about for what they offer and not "how the series evolves" etc...
I really want a sequel to Kid Icarus Uprising. It's a shame that the control scheme turned people off, because when you get used to it (I completely understand if you can't, though) it's a really fun game, with tons of replay value, fun characters and dialogue, awesome soundtrack and great visuals for the 3DS. I'm sure it would have been a lot more sucessful if it was released on the Wii with pointer controls instead of the 3DS, but alas.
Eternal Darkness
Golden Sun
Advance Wars
Baten Kaitos
The Wonderful 101 sequel
Metroid
Kid Icarus
I don't really don't care for the other ones as I've never really got into them like that.
I was divided between F-Zero and Kid Icarus. Ended up choosing Kid Icarus, I'm sure I'd love a sequel to KI:U more than a revival of F-Zero. Sakurai never disappoints, assuming he'd be in charge again.
Very good article, and I actually love all of these series, but the picture for the article about gave me a hear attack when I sae Metroid Prime IV...then it was followed by sadness...
Anyway, hard tonpick which I want to see most here.
Hopefully we get that Metroid game that everyone's pining for. I have never had the privilege of playing Metroid Prime (any of them) - but I think Nintendo would be smart to use this IP to try and cater to that FPS crowd.
I want to see some, perhaps not full retail, smaller eShop games for Wave Race, Pilotwings and F-Zero
What about a Metroid game that isn't Prime and isn't 2D? You know, like a proper third person shooter.
@Xaldin I love Wario Land 3 and Wario Land 4 on equal measure, since they're very different games. The second one was the best, in my opinion. No matter the style of game they would choose to return to, I'd love to see another game in the series.
@IceClimbers I wouldn't know about that. I'd say Nintendo considers F-Zero the more important franchise of the two, given that we still see it pop up from time to time in other games. Mario Kart 8's DLC feels like they're testing the waters somewhat. I'm not expecting another entry any time soon, but I wouldn't know which franchise has it worse.
@Tsurii Disagree about the scanning. It's entirely optional and it adds to the atmosphere, similarly to how NPCs just give flavor text in a myriad of titles. Dropping it would be detrimental, but not locking any content behind the 100% scanning rate (like true endings, for example) would get a "fair enough" from me.
A Wario game (Ware or Land) would make me buy it in a heartbeat.
GOLDEN SUN REVIVAL BY MONOLITH SOFT!
I would like to see some new franchises on NX personally. Don't get me wrong I love all of these games and most of the Nintendo staples but I think Splatoon shows that new franchises would draw more attention to NX than anything that's not called Mario, Smash, Kart, or Zelda. Fact is, those that have gotten franchise fatigue from are more likely to give NX a second look if there are new interesting games that they don't feel like they've experienced before.
First we gonna rock, then we gonna roll
Then we let it pop, go, let it go!
NX gon' give it to ya, he gon' give it to ya
NX gon' give it to ya, he gon' give it to ya
Yo where's my sequels at!
@AlphaJaguar Camelot should handle Golden Sun. They started the franchise and they've done well with it so far. Monolith games work off of a completely different template. Not saying it wouldn't be interesting to see Monolith's take on the series mind you.
I'd like to see all of them on the NX, though that's very optimistic. I voted for Kid Icarus since I really loved Uprising, but Metroid and F-Zero are probably more in need of having an NX entry.
I voted for Kid Icarus because of how much of a fantastic surprise Uprising was though I'd want all except Star Fox (too close to the release of Zero, let the Wii U have some great games to itself!) and WarioWare (not interested).
Knowing Nintendo, none of these will make it to the NX
Reboot Snowboard Kids! or give Diddy Kong Racing a try on NX
I think it should be Ice Climber
Ice Climber, please. Plenty of HD ice.
Snowboard kids or mario striker for the sports entries..
@Tsurii Exploration is all fine and dandy but there's a point where this scanning thing gets too much.
Then don't do it. That's one of the more praise-worthy aspects of the Prime series, the plot is as intrusive as you want it to be.
Other than that, I don't get what you mean by "journals". The scans in Prime are exactly that, entries about the enemies, the landscape and the lore.
Personally, I've fully accepted that we've seen the last of F-Zero. I don't like the situation at all, but I think Nintendo is finished with it. They were even kind of promoting FAST Racing Neo in one of their directs a while back before it launched as if they were trying to say "Hey look, guys! An F-Zero style racer! Now we don't have to make one since Shin'en did it for us!"
I hope I'm proved wrong though.
I don't want a retro 2D Metroid, I want a 2.5D Metroid. Take inspiration from New Super Mario Brothers and Donkey Kong Country and add in the Metroid weapon/armor/level design flavor. That is what I want.
Same obvious choices for each new Nintendo system.
What about
The Last Story 2?
Splatoon 2?
Pandora's Tower 2?
Xenoblade 3 ??
Metroid and Star Fox have been giving enough chances they screwed up. these 4 new Nintendo IPs have received a postive to critical acclaim and need to continue proving themselves the only thing slowing them down are low sales (except Splatoon) which Metroid and Star Fox suffer from aswell. So spend money on your newer IPs Nintendo!
F Zero sure deserves another chance on NX.
I chose Kid Icarus only because I'm not THAT familiar with Metroid, but I'd give a Prime game a chance if it came to the NX.
Kid Icarus-wise, I would be fine with an Uprising remaster but Sakurai has been really vague when it comes to a sequel. Something about him not being able to top Uprising...
I'm sure there will be plenty of Mario, but Super Mario Galaxy 3 would be nice...
Endless Ocean 3. I want HD diving fun.
I hate that I can't vote for both Metroid and F-Zero.
The Wii U gamepad would have been good for a Metroid Prime game. It would have highlighted the gamepad. As a matter a fact, there are a lot of game genres that would have been good to define the gamepad's purpose, but they just didn't happen for one reason or another (or no reason at all).
And if Nintendo teams up with Sega again for F-Zero NX, that'd be awesome. Do I think it'll happen? No. I'm almost ready to say that Nintendo is done with the franchise at this point. Metroid's last real release was in 2010. F-Zero's was in 2003. I still have a fair bit of hope for Metroid (whether it be Prime or a 2D/2.5D game), but I think F-Zero is maybe just going to be a page in Nintendo's history book.
I think it's also fair to say Nintendo really doesn't know what to do with Star Fox. I wouldn't be shocked if Star Fox Zero is the last game we see from that series for a little while.
The Metroid/StarFox/F-Zero clamoring begins again.
I don't think Nintendo will deliver on these franchises with its current developers. I'm not sure Retro is fit either.
I'm not sure who can make these games with the glory of both the nostalgic past and the glory of the most modern graphics technology all while having a producer from Kyoto who reports to Miyamoto
@Gamecubed Minor correction: the last F-Zero game was Climax, in 2004.
The return of another Metroid 3D/2D and a new F-Zero will make a HUGE effect on sales of the NX, I know many casuals have memories of F-Zero and Kid Icarus would make an excellent addition too
The answer is Mario and Zelda.
A little side note, j would've loved another console fire emblem game. But obviously the 3ds was far more suitable for it. Anyway with the NX that looks set to be a reality! If only star fox wasn't so gamepad dependent, it would've been a hit! Metroid prime 4 hopefully should happen.
Metroid!!!
Metroid would make me buy an NX ASAP( just as long it's not FF2 or Another M )
Definitely Metroid, but Wave Race would be nice, too. Darn shame but seeing the vote, it might just be that the finally killed of Star Fox for good.
All that aside though, Nintendo really needs to branch out. My favourite Nintendo games were always those, that were not "typical" Nintendo games.
Your Metroid Primes, your Advance Wars, your Fire Emblems, stuff that Rare did, like Golden Eye/ Perfect Dark, or Monolith with Xenoblade and Baten Kaitos.
The latter, Baten Kaitos, is also the one my vote would go to, if it were on list. Really one of my favourites on all Nintendo systems sofar.
The thing is, all these franchises are dead, aside of Xenoblade and Fire Emblem, which by Nintendo's own admission was ALMOST dead as well. In short, they are really killing off most of the games I used to by their systems for.
I understand that all of these games sell poorly, but the simple truth is this: I buy a Nintendo systme for those games, and ONCE I own their system, I normally also pick up Mario Kart, the odd title like Splatoon, or even sometimes a proper Mario game, despite not really caring for platformers.
These are the games that get ME in the door. I don't buy a new system to play the 1004th 2D Mario platformer - sorry, I just don't no matter how good it is. These games might not set the world on fire, saleswise, but without them, I'm not interested, and I am pretty sure, I am not the only one who feels this way.
Another point relating to this is diversity. Nintendo has very litte, and by killing of all these franchises, they pretty much reduced themselves to the narrowest of offerings. Whole genres no longer or at times only barely get covered within the WHOLE lifecycle of a system like the WiiU, which is just really unacceptable - at least if they want to attract customers who buy for something more than purely party games or nostalgia.
If I want a serious racing game, I have to go somewhere else, if I want a Souls'esque game, I have to go somewhere else, if I want a tactics game (they don't haven't put any FE games on their homeconsoles in a long time), obviously we don't need to even talk about popular genres like FPS, strategy, western-RPG (or RPGs in general for the most part) ... Huge chunks of the popular gaming world just disappear as soon as you turn on your WiiU, with literally nothing there in their place. Eventually we will get an "action-adventure" games, in the form of Zelda, but that will be in a point at time when the system is dead already, thus way, way, way too late for anything.
There just too many, too big blindspots in their line-up and that even goes if you the kind of patience that lasts your half a decade ...
Totally down with this list.
I, for one, really enjoyed Star Fox Zero and it's obsessive/excessive exploration of remote vehicle control but I can't deny that a more expansive content release with creative multiplayer wouldn't bring me right back and probably convince a much wider audience.
Kid Icarus is such a treat except for the magnification of all the problems of cramped controls on such a small device. Best voice acting and treatment from Nintendo so far, in my opinion.
WarioWare is troublesome as it looks like mini games and really needs to return to the fast paced zaniness but also feel fresh and replay able. Tough one.
I'd add Wave Race, but that team is long gone isn't it? I did love Wave Race.
Metroid 2D would be great while we wait for 3D and it is part of 2 parallel "main" lines in the franchise so it doesn't have to be simultaneous release like Federation Force would have benefited from.
The chances of all of these are raised by the potential of less division between portable and home gaming (no matter what shape that takes) in the NX.
F-Zero needs to be top priority in my book. The other 4 have had at least one recent game. But I do agree all 5 should have a new entry on the NX.
@aaronsullivan I don't want to reboot the whole debate, but after having tried just the demo of Star Fox Zero, I can see where all the reviewers where coming from (and also why there was no demo early on). The controls are not intuitiv ... certainly not, when you are not used to gyro controls from having played Splatoon alot with or something. And yes, you can get used to them, you can partially work around them. But none of that matters, because we are talking about controls - BASIC controls at that.
All of that is assuming that the original controls were broken. and thus there was need for reworking them, to innovate on that which was poor or barely functioning - not the case though =(
I'd love a new wave race and a home console Luigi's mansion would be great. Otherwise. I like surprises 😉
As much as I love metroid, f zero would be my top choice. GX was my life back when it came out, I put countless hours into overcoming its insane challenges.
I wanted to pick Star Fox. I really did - I've loved those games. But I can't deny the greatness of Metroid Prime/Super Metroid. A proper new Metroid would crush anything from these other series.
There won't be a new Star Fox game for at least the next five years. Zero has put the series on an indefinite hiatus. The series could be successful if Nintendo took a look at Mass Effect and Ratchet & Clank.
Just do an F-ZERO GX HD. Done.
WarioWare. Of course.
I'd love to see a new WarioWare game, but I'd want a Wario Land revival far more. God those platformers were amazing.
My mind says Metroid Prime, but my heart says F-Zero. I will follow my heart. Hopefully Nintendo will bring us a "F-Zero X" remake or something like this on the near future.
I picked Metroid, but all those sounds equally great!
Games I suggest are (sorry for the long list):
Metroid 3D: Just like Metroid Prime, but a new series.
Metroid 2D: love both 2D and 3D Metroid games
F-Zero: last game was on GCN by Sega, if Nintendo doesn't know what to do with the series, get Sega to do another one.
Wave Race: GCN game wasn't great, but I think this series deserves a revival.
1080 Snowboarding: Use to love the N64 and GCN games, then it just disappeared
Kid Icarus: the 3DS game was great, time for a console sequel!
Star Fox: I liked Zero, but for the sequel don't shove motion controls down our throats, and stop remaking the original Star Fox!!! ><
Pilotwings: 3DS game was ok, but otherwise this is another great series Nintendo has forgotten.
Startropics: two games on the NES, than that was it. A great series that Nintendo just pushed aside that definitely needs a reboot.
We need a sequel to Legend of the Seven Stars.
Those five are very predictable.
Starfox failed on the Wii U but I guess we will see it back on the NX in a couple of years with a proper control system.
F Zero that sounds ok. But the rest Im not sure Nintendo could improve on what's gone before.
You missed Wave Race just like Nintendo will, I guess.
Earthbound.
If F-Zero is gonna come back, it better be a full fledge triple A physical title. I don't care what the author of this article says, Nintendo has enough money to make one happen. Not choosing to make one is no excuse and if F-Zero ever arrive as a stupid digital only game instead then I ain't touching it. It can stay dead.
Mr. Whitehead, you make it sound as if we had a "new" installment in the Metroid Prime series for Wii U like we did with Star Fox. We did not.
I think Metroid, if made right. would do wonders for Nintendo's image lately. I'm not saying Nintendo needs A slue of Mature titles but, It sure wouldn't hurt. In fact, I bet it would help. it's good to have a spectrum of things to choose from.
I'd love a Mature, Fighting game, and FPS. Oh and a realistic Racing SIM for good measure.
As much as I adore the Kid Icarus series (been playing since NES/GB days), and would kill to get a sequel to Uprising, F-Zero is in dire need.
@ThomasBW84 Nicely written article, and some solid IP's that should indeed get a new game on NX, but personally, I'm kind of disappointed that you didn't include Wave Race and 1080 Snowboarding in your list, because these need to return as well.
@A01 wave race was awesome
Kid Icarus needs some more love 💖
1080
Wave Race
Mario Straikers
Stunt Race FX
And port over Cruisin Redline
@Tsurii
Whaaaaaat??! That's literally the first time I've heard someone say they didn't like the scanner visor and exploration in Prime. That's one of my favorite parts of the game, going around collecting info and exploring every nook and cranny.
I think Warioware would be a good franchise for mobile.
@Sinton I trawled through every comment and was about to say "I can't believe no-one here has mentioned Mother/Earthbound", but you have now, so I won't.
I've not even played it, but for it to take 88 comments to get a mention...
@7yL3r8 Why not both developers for the continuation of Golden Sun? Monolith Soft are already a Nintendo subsidiary so there won't be any creative clashes involved. Speaking of Camelot, what have they been up to lately...
@AlphaJaguar it wouldn't be golden sun then. Monolith Soft is not skilled in that specific style of rpg. Maybe if they took part of the link between worlds team and part of the fire emblem team to work on it we could get a fantastic reboot of the franchise.
@faint Monolith Soft has a studio designated to home console gaming (the Xenoblade team) and handheld console gaming (the Project X Zone team). Monolith Soft have already done work from Skyward Sword and A Link To The Past and even Animal Crossing New Leaf so it's not out of the question for them to dabble with Golden Sun.
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Kid Icarus : Uprising is my favorite game of all time, I really wish they'd give this IP another chance to shine.
also, some other franchises missing here:
Chibi Robo
Wario Land
and most importantly Starfy!!!!
Metroid Prime is not cannon. I want a sequel to Fusion...something that will push the real story forward.
I don't care about any of these franchises, except maybe Wario and even then I'd prefer a platformer to microgames.
The only launch franchise I'd like to see is Pilotwings. Possibly because it has always been a launch franchise and arguably belongs there.
More generally, I love Nintendo's more sport-ish outings and I fully accept that none of them can carry a full release but I'd totally be up for a revival that puts them all together. Maybe a Wuhu Island-esque sandbox game that has Wave Race-style gameplay and allows flying to other islands for snowboarding, etc.? That'd be cool.
"Perhaps a strategy for Project Save Fox could be to recreate the Zero storyline but with tweaks to support a more conventional control setup."
We already have that. It's called "Star Fox 64 (3D)." What the series needs is a brand new story that continues the series past "Command" as well as finally revealing the canon ending of that disappointing game.
@abbyhitter thats bs dude metroid prime is canon so deal with it and other m shouldnt be canon at all.
I am really curious how a sequel to Earthbound would look like on the NX. I think the game would sell well because of Ness' appearance in Super Smash Bros. I wonder if they could change Earthbound to a 3D RPG with colourful landscapes and battles with abstract shapes floating in the background. I'm sure Nintendo is not going to do this because Earthbound is a very unknown franchise, but I think the game would be impressive if they made it for the NX.
@AlphaJaguar they have a small team that does move around. They also helped finish Mario kart 8. I however wouldn't have the studio do it by themselves if you wanted an authentic feeling golden sun.
I only want another Star Fox if it's not another remake/reimagining.
nintendo land have a little ninja game. it was my favorite of them but nintendo di not give this ip a full game
@A01 I Absolutely agree with you,throw in 1080 as well.
@hYdeks i agree with you,where's 1080 and Wave Race dammit.
@sailornic that game is actually based on an old Nintendo ip called nazo no murasami so technically it has had a standalone version with completely different game play.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xx0Ij2BTZSY
It may sound stupid,but i would love to see a New Baten Kaitos.
WarioWare is a really crap series, hope they never go back there. Wario Land-series, Shake Dimension, Master of Disguise are great though!
@KGRAMR that would be cool but monolith soft doesn't own the rights to it unfortunately.
@Spideron I quite enjoy wario ware. They also sell pretty well.
@IceClimbers I also voted Kid Icarus. There have only been 3 games in the franchise. NES, GB and 3DS. It would be a good alternate 1st party adventure to Zelda. I think it's a strong contender.
Starfox without motion control crap and F Zero are my dreams
@Mando44646 star fox on the wii u could of been better if platinum wasnt working on so many games at once.
We need a new WarioWare! And I would love a new Star Fox too, Zero was awful.
Screw warioware,what about Wario Land?
All of those are good choices except Wario Ware. That series belongs on cell phones, not on a major console.
I'd love to see a new Wario Land however!
I'm not at all surprised by the percentages nor the order of the franchises in the poll. I'd have put Luigi's Mansion in the vote instead of WarioWare or Star Fox.
No more 2D platformers Nintendo.
All good choices but WAVE RACE is beyond overdue.
Another Animal Crossing,
A new Mario,
Wave Race,
1080,
Advance/Battalion Wars!
Meh. Couldn't care less for any of these except WarioWare. Whilst I still love Game & Wario (especially Gamer, since it's super unique and most resembles the classic titles, and the Miiverse-enabled mode, they make for a good time no matter what), I do believe that a more classic entry is overdue.
@RoomB31 Hell yeah!
@A01 i like you
https://www.house-mixes.com/profile/Umegames/play/never-had-a-wave-like-you---bow-wow-vs-wave-r
Eternal Darkness, Eternal Darkness, Eternal Darkness and Eternal Darkness.
@Yala From what I heard, Monolith Soft have been busy helping with Breath of the Wild. So, Xenoblade 3 may be a little while.
@Frosty_09 Either would do, but it feels like Dual Strike's style would sit better with the fantasy. Days of Ruin had some great ideas, though, like changing the different class units to fit better in the game's setting. I'd preserve the style and tone of DS while making a game different to both in setting.
I would like to see a 2D metroid games with atomosphere like super metroid with elements from fusion!
KI:U is my favorite game, on any platform. It's the perfect embodiment of why I love playing games, the game was just bursting at the seams with fresh ideas and original content. There's nothing I want a sequel to more.
I'd personally love another Kid Icarus game. I think Kid Icarus: Uprising is one of the best games on the 3DS, and I'd love to see a sequel to it!
I think a Nintendo version of 1080 Snowboarding AND Wave Race together - a type of Nintendo X Games combination! - would be simply incredible if made in full HD. SSX hasn't been around for a few years and the boat racing series on major consoles (Hydro Thunder Hurricane, Riptide GP 2 and Renegade) have been pretty bare bones; this is a real opportunity for Nintendo to make a major impression on an alternative sports games market. I guess Ubisoft's Steep would partially overlap, but it would still be awesome to see.
For NX:
Animal Crossing
NX Party
Any Boxing games by Nintendo (Seriously, we haven't get proper Whimsical Boxing games so far, just only Boxing from Mario & Sonic 2016 Wii U . And i want Nintendo bring back Cute Boxing games with gameplay mechanical like Mario & Sonic 2016 Wii U, more customize like Animal Crossing. I don't want if the Boxing games looks Too Western like Fight Night series )
Kid Icarus gets my vote. They could turn this franchise into something grand if they'd make a new one every gen and iron out some of its glaring flaws.
Golden Sun needs its sequel.
Metroid third, because it's excellent.
StarTropics fourth because it needs a revamp and it was really fun.
A new Splatoon.
Much rather see WarioLand than WarioWare. Not that I dislike Ware but it's been much the same thing since the first and we did kinda have one on WiiU as part of Game & Wario. I don't know what else they could do with it, though I'd like it to return, just after a break.
Whilst Land hasn't been seen since Shake Dimension, which was nicely made but suffered the current trend among Mario spin-offs of slowly being stripped of what made it unique. Wario needs to embrace it's gross-out humour again! Turning to a zombie so you can slop through grates, being stung by a bee so you swell up and float, the hideously grotesque bosses it was so much the anti-Mario and so much fun!
So gimme that. And Metroid. And F-Zero. Please.
@AlternateButtons
Yeah Kid Icarus does have great controls...on the NES and GB. The controls on Uprising are awful. There's always gotta be one fatal flaw that drags this franchise down. Poor Kid Icarus.
The franchise I want the most (Earthbound/Mother) won't happen, so I'd settle for an actual sequel for Donkey Kong 64.
2D Metroid would be great, and hopefully as good as Axiom Verge, but all of the others listed (including Metroid Prime) aren't really my cup of tea. I'd be happy to see them reach new heights, but they're certainly not the stuff I yearn to play on a new Nintendo console.
All of the above, plus a Fire Emblem from Taeko Kaneda, preferably a sequel to Radiant Dawn. The only thing that can convince me to eventually get an NX and to even give a damn about this series anymore is a Fire Emblem game directed by Taeko Kaneda and ONLY Taeko Kaneda (I'd take one from Shouzo Kaga, too, but he's retired/exiled from Nintendo and only works on super low scale projects like Vestaria Saga in his free time nowadays).
Between Mario Kart 8's 200cc and Fast Racing Neo, F-Zero almost seems redundant, but maybe that's just me. I'm definitely in favor of a proper Metroid game and a new Kid Icarus on the NX though.
@Ralek85 Yeah, don't start. I get that it's not for everyone but my 7-year-old son and I love it. Like I said it's this obsessive exploration of controlling vehicles from inside, as a gunner, from outside like an RC vehicle, from dramatic angles, etc. Really fun and rewarding and not the same.
People are missing out, in my opinion, but that's fine people miss out on all sorts of things because of aversion to change or disruption or minor discomfort. If gamer's convince themselves it's not worth the effort there are hundreds of other experiences to try instead. Can't blame them, it's just entertainment.
It was a miscalculation on Nintendo's part as the game was a commercial failure and a let down to most of those who wanted the franchise to get a resurgence.
2D Metroid? Totally not happening.
The last 2D Metroid we got was Zero Mission on GBA.
ice climbers. that way, they can be brought back to smash. they look adorable but hack at you with ice pickaxes. what could be cuter than hack and slash kawaii?
Famicom Detective Club Part III
Golden Sun
Advance Wars
F-Zero
Kid Icarus
These 4 franchises imo need another game in their series, especially the top 3 which haven't gotten a game since ages, F-Zero having oldest release.
Kid Icarus was a great game and it really deserves a sequel. Although topping the story of Uprising would be pretty hard xD I don't really get the hate for the controls. After learning em, they were more precise than any other dual analog shooter controls imo.
And for the ones saying GS with Monolith Soft, I can see where that is coming from and being a huge Xenoblade fan myself, I'd want them to work on the franchise as well. BUT in collaboration with Camelot, since Monolith's RPG are of a completely different style and despite the drawbacks of GS3, it was still a great game.
So yea my dream team for GS3 would be Camelot x Intelligent Systems x Monolith Soft. As long as they don't try to change up the franchise too much. I don't need supports or social links in Golden Sun.
Edit: Oh and Advance Wars is amazing, and I like it more than Fire Emblem so there's that. I loved all entries in the franchise including the slightly polarizing Days of Ruin which in my opinion toned down the levels of broken the combat was by Dual Strike while giving us leveling units, a choice between maintaining CO zone or triggering em, a stronger storyline and amazing music.
So yes, I really really want an Advance Wars as well.
@MarcelRguez You can't proceed without scanning door locks, platforms, panels, so yes, it's intrusive. At least Federation Force did one thing right by letting you freely interact with stuff by just holding A near them.
@MarcelRguez I totally agree. The first Wario Land game in particular is so fun and memorable! I would love to see the series brought back.
I vote for Advance Wars.......oh wait.....
@EllenJMiller
I ws really disappointed there was not one on Wii U.
@rushiosan Those scans don't force you to read "trivial logs", which is the issue Tsurii has. There's a difference between having a problem with the logs and having a problem with the mechanic itself.
I'd like to see a new Kid Icarus. But this time I'd rather it be a proper adventure game more along the lines of Zelda. I loved Uprising but would prefer a more traditional adventure for Pit.
@MarcelRguez They actually display texts like "platform active" or "energy recovered to platform" plus a small cutscene, which kinda ruins the pacing at some points.
Not a big deal though, didn't stop me from enjoying the game, I just think it's not convenient as simply walking near it and pressing a single button like most games in the genre. Every time you have to: stop fighting enemies or whatever you're doing and quickly switch to the scan mode; hold "Z" (or L in GC versions) while the switch is on sight; wait for the scan gauge to fill; read the text and watch the cutscene; then move. It's kinda overused, really.
@rushiosan Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. One would have to be very picky to say that a 3-second cutscene "ruins the pacing". Unless you're talking specifically about Hunters, in which that scenario does admittedly repeat a lot, I can't recall any instance in the trilogy in which that scenario "cuts the pacing" outside of puzzle rooms, which cut the pacing by themselves because, well, they're puzzle rooms.
@MarcelRguez Prime 1 and Hunters have the most problems regarding overuse of scan visor. Prime 3 almost feels like a different game in that aspect, since there are several points where you actually have some fun at switches by rotating and pulling Wiimote/nunchuck. At the time, it was something new and interesting to do, days before motion controls became to haunt Nintendo machines and make people angry (Star Fox Zero, I'm looking at you).
Once again, not a real issue to me, I'm more concerned about the horrendous amount of tedious backtracking in Prime games than anything. They're still among my favorites of all time.
Maybe if Metroid actually sold well, we'd see more Metroid titles.
@AlternateButtons
Yeah...no! I didn't suffer handcramps and bad cameras due to bad controls in Kid Icarus or Myths and Monsters, like I did in Uprising. Nice try.
Love a Mystical Ninja return.
Quirky Japanese story and settings, big robots and outrageous characters!
Five Franchises That Deserve A Fresh Chance on the Nintendo NX, ""or""
Five Franchises That Deserve A Fresh Chance for Fans and Profits.
Really, many must remember that even those games are super-cool; Great!!, sales of them never reflected that greatness, and Star Fox Zero is a very recent example
(And not be with the idea that "short duration" and "poor control", because that is more than an excuse ...).
But well, I want those games, especially F-Zero (and Cruin's), but, well, waiting for a response from Nintendo and more "the fans"
NX needs a new Prime and 2D Metroid! I'm probably the only one who also thinks Retro need to complete there Donkey Kong Country Trilogy with a third entry. Take it away Retro!
Seen it mentioned a few times. If Nintendo even owns Baten Kaitos, that would be my choice.
I'd love to see: Animal Crossing (Not some rip off mario party), Fire Emblem, Custom Robo, Splatoon, Wave Race, StarTropics, Metroid, F-Zero.
And new IPs, C'mon Nintendo, Splatoon was a hit, Lets see some new games, lol.
Am I the only one who really enjoyed the concepts introduced in Metroid Blast (Nintendoland) and would like to see it fully implemented in a more hardcore AAA 3D Metroid title? I thought some of its game mechanics were unique and would lend itself well to a full release, like the ability to hang onto the hovercraft.
Metroid Blast caused me to imagine a full-scale multiplayer Metroid game in the same vein as Destiny, with online mulitplayer modes including co-op missions, raids, horde modes and PvP, except it would be uniquely Metroid and include some of those aforementioned game mechanics that would set it apart. I kept waiting for something like this to happen on Wii U. Now I anxiously await it to happen on NX.
I also wanted to see an HD Endless Ocean for the Wii U. I think the game would have used the Gamepad really well too.
Wave Race, that's all I want.
I just want a f-zero game so bad. It's beyond time we got one. Skipping two gens is not acceptable. NX better have one.
My five picks would be:
Metroid
F-Zero
Pilot Wings
Endless Ocean
Wave Race
I've made this point a few times in the past, I feel a launch-window Animal Crossing makes the most sense, it's been a few years since the last -real- entry and we haven't gotten a main series game in HD at all. Launching with the system would be ideal since it's a popular title and also one that can be played every day while waiting for other games to release.
@Yalaa I don't know if I would add Xenoblade or Splatoon as games that deserve a fresh chance, since both came out on the WiiU and the former did fairly well while the latter did great. Other than Last Story, and Pandora's Tower 2, a new W101 and Zangeki no Reginleiv are games that I think need a fresh chance, though Nintendo needs to increase the budget of their externally developed games.
Honestly....I feel that the newer entries in most of those series don't leave much room for improvement. Aside from a graphical upgrade....what does a new F-Zero do that the gamecube version doesn't? Maybe add an open-world MMO component NFSW style in addition to the traditional f-zero grand prix/time trial/death race?
How about Pokemon Snap or TCG RPG, Mario Tennis with the RPG progression of the GBC games, or a 3D Donkey Kong instead? Reimagine the Mario Bros. arcade game to use the controller detachments (if that's really a thing)?
I'd prefer warioware and game and watch (with new games) to move to ios.
I voted Kid Icarus. I think this game is way overdue. F-Zero is a pretty close second. I imagine we will get a Metroid of some type.
Wishful thinking, but I would love a new Pro Wrestling.
If there isn't a new Metroid game being released within a year of the NX's lifespan I'm going to be a little disappointed.
@thehoppypoppy
Yeah, I hope a REAL Animal Crossing launches with the NX, along with Mario kart. Yeah, I have high expectations.
@outsider83
Yeah, it would work perfect! Like if you have to shake your phone for a mini game or something.
I wouldn't mind seeing a new kid icarus entry, but I shall always root for the return of waverace and 1080 first.
Metroid (2D or 3D) and then F-Zero.
I'd also still love to see a true Super Mario RPG sequel.
I think I forgot to mention Wonderful 101 sequel, maybe 102?
Wonderful 101 is one the BEST games on the Wii U and I absolutely loved the whacky story, action, comedy, etc. It had a learning curve but it was amazing after it and because of which not enough people gave it a chance.
I think it deserves another chance on NX. Plus it'd be amazing
Metroid and F-Zero: Of course
Kid Icarus: Uprising was great, so a sequel could be great too
Warioware: Only if they can make it as good as Twisted, with lots of content.
As for Starfox: The Starfox Zero controls where such a mess that I have enough of the franchise for the time being. Unless they finally give it the treatment it deserves: New story, awesome graphics, fast gameplay, easy controls, lots of levels!!
The Wii U has incredible games and I enjoy the system. However, I didn't enjoy the 5-6 month wait in between games. What the NX really needs is a strong launch line up and then a steady stream of games. Without that steady stream of games, people will waver and loose interest. Nintendo and its developers can make a game from all 5 of those studies but timing is everything. Wii U never got a Zelda title until 4+ years into its life cycle. No metroid ever. Star Fox was nearly 3+ years into the life cycle. This is just too long.
f-zero missing for too long......
Unirally/Uniracers 2!
That's all.
F-Zero and Warioware. Miss those games.
Wave Race!!! With all the tracks of WR64 and Blue Storm.
Also Pilot Wings and Metroid.
Someone also mentioned Panzer Dragoon: YES!
F-Zero all the way!
Oh, and Excitebots too, this time for european players too!
I want a new metroid, but not a prime. I'm tired of Prime even though Retro is an outstanding studio.
Wave race nx would be awesome .
Body harvest could be worth a revisit nintendo land 2 with online matches.
Nx sports would be good to get the wii audience back.
Luigis mansion
And rastan nx
Theres my 6 although im happy with just zelda breath of the wild
Yeah Kid Icarus was amazing and I believe it sold well, so a new entry would be more than welcome
In my opinion, Nintendo should start moving away from their 'classic' IPs and start creating more new franchises.
Let's look at the facts- Starfox Zero and Federation Force were both critical and commercial flops. Splatoon on the other hand has been a huge success, as has the Smash series. I think Nintendo should realise themselves that they need to revitalise their image, and reflect that in exciting new ideas, characters and worlds which will grab the public's attention. As much as I would love to see another Metroid Prime, the fact is that trilogy ended nearly a decade ago! Time to move on.
Give me more new characters to love and more exciting worlds bursting with imagination. I don't need Starfox or Metroid (much as I loved them). I need to feel in awe of what we all know Nintendo is capable of creating.
Kid Icarus is a very underrated 3DS game. It's one of my favourite 3DS games. I'd love to see a sequel!
I wholeheartedly agree with you, Thomas. I'd love to see all those games appear on NX. I'd love to see pretty much of Nintendo's games/franchises appear on NX, from both the home console and handheld spaces, and maybe even one or two new games as well.
Star Fox Zero is fun, great and disappointing all in one.
Star Fox needs a proper sequel by a AAA team and not a mash up from a B team.
Advance Wars
Metroid
F-Zero
Wario Ware
I'd like a remake of Kid Icarus Uprising with better controls. Im also probably alone in thinking that Geist had some really good ideas that could benefit from better implementation and that Chibi Robo deserves another shot even if it's a high quality remake of the original.
Where's Panel De Pon these days? That was a great puzzle game.
Me and the other 16% on kid icarus i would buy all 5 day 1 regardless
Btw for people asking for waverace or startropics or even advance wars wake up it's never gonna happen time to accept it
@Baker1000 So Mario 64 isn't a Mario game because it isn' about completing linear levels in 8 worlds but is more exploration and adventure based? Or Luigi's Mansion shouldn't have the green plumber because "Mario isn't about ghostbusting!!!!!"
People should really stop s*itting on Federation Force. It wasn't what we Metroid fans wanted, but it is still a great game that is part of the Metroid franchise as a spin off, which never hurted any franchise in history (actually they helped the main series when they succed, but the Metroid "fans" made it blow really hard for no real good reason).
Not much Eternal Darkness in comments. Sad face
How am I supposed to pick one.
Luigi's Mansion anyone? Please let there be an HD remake of the first one!
@Nonno_Umby then OMG Metroid Prime isn't a real Metroid game because it's first person and not side scrolling!!!
No. You've missed the point here. Federation Force is a spin-off, so it doesn't satisfy the demand for a Metroid game in the same way Tri Force Heroes didn't satisfy the demand for a new Zelda adventure. I haven't sh*tted on FF, for the most part I like it but I'm still not gonna say "no we've just had a Metroid game, we don't need another for a while" as the writer was suggesting people would say.
Also, the same goes for Luigi's Mansion. It didn't satisfy the demand for a new Mario adventure when it was released. It was a fantastic game in it's own right, and arguably it's even a Mario game per se.
@faint I know that, that's why i said "I'd die" because i know it's never going to happen anyways..
Now I'd personally opt for some more obscure franshises, Nintendo IPs that have either gone ages without new entries or are less prominent but this line 'albeit we opted for some better-known and (arguably) feasible brands' kind of pointed out why you went with those 5 games in particular. I'll just be here hoping in view for a new Panel De Pon and Balloon Fight game for NX. Moving onto the question then...
Q) In any case, which of these five in our list would you most like to see in the next few years on NX?
A) If I was to vote on a personal level, it'd probably be either Wario Ware or Star Fox. I haven't played many entries in all 5 IPs listed here, but from what little I've played of each of them, these two are probably the ones I enjoy the most.
That said, both the Wario and Star Fox brands have made an appearance in this generation of the 3DS and Wii U, so I don't feel they are a priority for a new game. Heck, Star Fox even got a spin-off this generation as well. This likewise shapes my thoughts on both Metroid and Kid Icarus, they have at least had some form of game this generation.
F-Zero on the otherhand has had no game, nor even a spin-off, in both this generation of Nintendo systems and the previous generation. As such, I logically find F-Zero to be the most deserving IP to get new entry on NX. Of course, I hope each of these IPs get a new entry on NX; I hope as many of Nintendo's IPs as possible get a new entry on NX. In terms of priority though, whilst it is not my personal choice, I feel my vote should go towards the more deserving F-Zero series.
@electrolite77 @Royalblues Okay, turns out I wasn't the only one to mention Panel De Pon; glad to see both of your comments.
Despite being quite terrible at puzzle games, I'm a big fan of Panel De Pon and the Puzzle League series. I think a good majority of my early comments on Miiverse were about how Lip should be playable in Super Smash Bros.
F-zero.
After gx that's hard to top but still f-zero.
Kid Icarus should be there. Its sales are respectable. Although I did enjoy the 2d versions better. The 3DS turned it out. It was kind of funny. I found myself laughing and enjoying the game even if the controls were weird and I was a little turned off by the change in game style. It was great and it had charm.
Prime on the other hand, Should be in that window as well, but I gave up on that.
Super Zelda Dodgeball damnit!
I'd go for a Prime-esque Metroid game over a 2D one... I know the 2D games have a lot of fans, but I think they deserve a 3DS outing before moving on to something like the NX.
The Prime series is long overdue a proper revival, with Federation Force just seeming like a missed opportunity, which I think may have been partially due to the limitations of the 3DS.
A new 2D/3D hybrid in the same vein as Other M could work as well... I liked the original personally, and think it could have worked really well on the Wii U, using a similar 1st-person/3rd-person split between the screens like StarFox Zero... this might be possible on the NX as well (depending on how the screens work with one another) so that might be another option.
@liljmoore With Fore Emblem's rise, a new Advanced Wars is doubtful though.
F zero and Waverace. Metroid is kinda getting boring.
Pro Wrestling, update on the NES classic. A winner is us.
@JesseN
Endless Ocean Wii ?
How about Go Vacation HD or something like that ?
It would be a Gorgeous Beautiful Resort that we can explore, plus Go Vacation Wii offered a Scuba Diving also.
NX needs some Beautiful Scenery and Relaxing games like that.
Not always Adrenaline Rush genre with AAA Level.
Note that a lot of failed games of this generation are Nintendo forcing a "New Way to Play"
Miyamoto in my humble opinion needs to go... he has said in interviews that he does not want to revisit a franchise unless there is something new and fun. Unfortunately he thinks that it has to be a new control method or some other gimmick.
Nintendo should have fired Miyamoto after the Wii music debacle.
@LeRaposa Nintendo needs to put Miyamoto on a five-year hiatus. For every wonderful success Miyamoto has had he has also had epic very damaging failures.
@Camilla Star Fox also could have been better if they didn't force the dual-screen perspective and the crappy Miyamoto control scheme.
@aaronsullivan Glad you and your son enjoyed it. Just to be clear, my problem is not with perspective (though I think for a fast-action-arcade-game like Star Fox, using two screens at the same time is too much - at least for one player^^), but about the gyro-controls. It's not "because of aversion to change or disruption or minor discomfort", but because while I tried to wrap my head (and hands, so to speak^^) around it for Splatoon for several hours, it never really clicked with me.
I've acquired "controller skills", and accoring muscle memory over the course of more than two decades and rewiring all that for sake of like two games basically, without any significant pay-off (a potential small increase in accuracy), is indeed asking too much - too much effort and time, esp. since 99% of games I play, still adhere to the traditional control-mechanics.
So, if anything the game should have been able to convince me, the effort was worth it ...
Splatoon was at least decent enough to make it optional, which reviewers appreciated a great deal apparently^^ The idea of a cockpit perspective itself was fine, why would I mind that, if I don't mind it dozens of other games?
Wave Race all over my face!
1080° next, please!
A third new Donkey Kong Country (I know, it's probably not gonna happen. But Tropical Freeze is a freakin' masterpiece. I want more.)
A really brave new Super Mario title, similar to the radical change Super Mario World took from the first one to Yoshi's Island.
Pilotwings, without Miis (They should die horribly anyway.)
2D Metroid
A triple-A Fire Emblem
Wario Land, like 2 and 3, of course.
An actual good new StarFox. (It's possible Nintendo.)
Definitely:
-F-Zero
-Mario Galaxy (or any proper open world Mario 3D platformer)
-Wave Race
Nice to have:
-Eternal Darkness
-Kid Icarus
-a new Soul Calibur with Link included (again)
-Xenoblade Chronicles X Polished
I don't think another Starfox game is necessary so soon after SF0. But if they make another one, it should build on SF0. I actually liked it a lot and still think all the negativity online is based on nothing. It just started with a few people who aren't able/willing to adapt to new things (like control schemes), they just became a very loud minority and that caused everyone - especially people who never actually played SF0 like a friend of mine - to spread the 'info' that SF0 is a bad game. It's not. In fact, I don't see anything wrong with this game. I'm not saying it's a perfect masterpiece, but everything it does it does right. If more people were willing to adapt to innovation, we wouldn't have this discussion.
The same thing happened with the Wii, by the way. There was also a loud minority that dammned the Wiimote. But the Wii was just such a massive mainstream success that no one heard that minority scream.
The problem is, nowadays negativity spreads and grows very quickly and disproportionately online. No matter if the negativity is justified (like No Man's Sky) or not (like Starfox Zero). If a vocal minority starts to spread criticism, it will get amplified a lot. But if someone does something good, it never gets appreciated the same way or with the same intensity.
F-Zero
F-Zero
F-Zero.
There hasn't been a direct iteration of this game since F-Zero X. While GX played and looked well, it has a sheen of cheese lovingly layered over it as a trademark standard, by Sega. The camp interviews after you had won, room the hint of darkness seen in X and put a Sega stamp right where your crowning achievement should have been.
Now, should Nintendo revisit the N64 masterpiece and evolve it. THAT I would want to see.
This closely followed by a return to 1080 and Wave Rave.
And they should talk to Treasure to expand on Mischief Makers, Warioland and Ikaruga as platform exclusives.
The franchises that I'd like to see nintendo bring back or at least release on a console (instead of handheld):
Startropics
Faxanandu
Final Fight
New 2D Metroid title
A new Castlevania game for nintendo console (not a fighting one, and yes, I know this isn't made by nintendo)
A new Kirby Adventure platform title
F-zero---this is a definite!
Wave Race
1080 Snowboarding
Ice Climber (could be great with newer graphics)
Balloon Fight (could be a good 2D shooter)
Pinball...come on nintendo, try an pinball game featuring nintendo IP's and worlds...something like Zen Pinball
Eternal Darkness 2 (probably will never happen)
a new Luigi's Mansion on console
a new Wario Land platform game (not wario ware)
updated and more games...Wii Sports
Battalion Wars 3...maybe???
And last but not least...a new Animal Crossing that we don't have to wait for 2-3 years into the consoles lifecycle!
@DESS-M-8 I feel you...after adding the N64 onto the Wii and Wii U virtual arcades, I was surprised that they never released the F-zero 64 version...or even Wave Race 64 or 1080 Snowboarding...never made sense to me...so many great N64 titles that they just ignored. Hopefully, the next e-shop virtual arcade has all of the ones that are already out on Wii and Wii U, and keep adding from there, but I'm assuming that it will be the same ones being re-added.
@Nintendofan83 I agree with you. This is what happened to me...the PS4 was brought out more and the Wii U began collecting more dust...waiting for a game to come out. The fact that there were only a few games coming out per year was lackluster, and some of the games that did come out for Wii U, seemed to be real quick games that didn't have a lot of the depth that they did in the past...sometimes it made me seem that nintendo was quickly rushing games out, just to get them out for the ones who bought the system and tide them over for a while...again, just my thoughts on it. Just like you, though, I hope there's no more droughts and nintendo learned their lesson from the past, but they've done it so much on the Wii, Gamecube, Wii U, DS and 3DS so much, that I doubt it will happen, which is where I hope that they get the support from 3rd party publishers...if we look, Sony and Microsoft have the same kind of schedule as nintendo, they just have all of the 3rd party games that come out in various amounts during those waits...which is why nintendo needs the 3rd party support.
A Star Tropics game would be cool, or Earthbound, but Star Tropics would be interesting. I also want a 2.5D Metroid with gorgeous HD visuals.
I find this article and it's comment section rather amusing. Nintendo fans clamour for F-Zero, Star Fox and Metroid, but when the dust settles, the sales for those games never truly match the hype or intensity from the fanbase. No wonder Nintendo doesn't know what to do with F-Zero and Metroid. Heck, even with a traditional Star Fox game in the form of Zero, the so called "demand" for these titles just does not match the sales for each game produced from their respective franchise. It's sad but true.
For me personally, the appeal of F-zero has always been overshadowed by Mario Kart, I never cared for Metroid and while I loved Star Fox 64, it's clear the formula we once enjoyed is rather outdated in this day and age. It's clear that these three franchises are not nearly as popular as people thought they were and the "hardcore" Nintendo fans are very much the minority.
I'd like to see Nintendo push the success of Fire Emblem to new heights on the NX and truly propel it past the aging popularity of F-Zero, Metroid and Star Fox. That's a franchise that both hardcore, core and even some casuals will get behind. And the sales for the last two Fire Emblem games show they're indeed more popular than any Metroid, F-Zero or Star Fox game to date. That's a franchise that deserves some love on the NX, not franchises that have lost their luster and popularity.
Kid icarus uprising was a system gem which made the 3ds worth buying. While I admit the controls took a while to get used to, they played perfectly and comfortablely with an XL. Just make another game like it for the NX, and and I'd buy an NX in a heartbeat.
All of these sound great. Even an F-Zero game that didn't push the boundaries of the series would be great! Just online multiplayer with customizable vehicles and more tracks.
Metroid and F Zero for me 😀
@Lucina
It's true.
I love F-Zero. Been playing it since the SNES, and F-Zero GX is hands down the greatest racer of all time. But nobody buys these kinds of games anymore. I do think an F-Zero X 3D would have pushed a million units, but it's no major contender that's for sure.
As for Star Fox, not enough demand. Fans think they're the only ones who matter. That if Nintendo would just concede to their demands all would be well. Even Star Fox 64 3D barely broke a million. Out of what, 60 million 3DS sold? 1 in 60 is not a significant number. Even Star Fox Zero on Wii U, which I know wasn't perfect but it wasn't bad. How many bought it? Maybe 250k to half a million- on a good day? That's not significant..
And last we come to Metroid, a game which Id love to see a new entry for. But even in its heyday, Metroid revolved around the 1 million mark. How much less will it sell now, if all it could muster in the GameCube-Wii era was 1-1.5 million?
I think it's one of those situations where the idea of Metroid, the idea of F-Zero, the idea of Star Fox, is more enticing than the actual game. Because imagination leads to endless possibilities, and hype breaks all chains and runs off out of control. But when we actually get said game, people are let down because the game was never as great as they remember it to be. We got a Star Fox, but the immediate reaction is "that wasn't good enough- if it just had normal controls then I would have been able to relive the greatness once more". But... no you wouldn't have. No you wouldn't. It'll never be good enough, ever. You're chasing a dream, a phantom of a memory of an experience you once had. And memories tend to embellish and exaggerate the good and conveniently omit the bad.
Even with Metroid Prime which is imo one of the best games ever made, how well would a new one hold up today? It'd probably get an 8/10 and people would play it for a bit, then move on. Most people here who go on and on about a new Metroid, they haven't even finished the trilogy. Or Other M. But, they want a new one, even though it'll just end up in backlog like all the other Metroid games they never finished in the last 15 years.
It's sad. But true.
Here's my advice. You're craving F-Zero? Google a Nintendont tutorial, spend 20 minutes setting up your Wii U to play GC from SD, and go play F-Zero GX. No F-Zero will ever match this game anyways. And if you're craving Metroid? Go ahead and pop in the Metroid Prime Trilogy. Finish it. And if you have played it through, then play Other M. Don't get all high and mighty about it not being good enough either. If you really love Metroid you wouldn't dismiss an entire perfectly good Metroid game you haven't played over a few flaws. And if you want Star Fox? Go play Star Fox Assault and Adventure. And maybe Zero while you're at it. Unless you've finished all these games, you don't need to wait for a new one. You have a perfectly good unplayed game waiting for you right now. Heck, even I may go back and replay the Prime Trilogy. It's been 10 years- I don't remember hardly anything. it'll feel like a brand new triple whammy of Metroid games.
I want a stop motion animated Star Fox using the puppets from the old e3 presentations and commercials.
Also F-Zero GX is a masterpiece. But give me a F-Zero GX with online multiplayer and 64 person races and all of a sudden you got the start of something unique..
Golden Sun
But if Nintendo is heading in the direction I think it is I think we'll see Sticker Star 3 instead.
2D Metroid, or a successor to Prime that ISN'T an interquel. The continuity is stretched to breaking point as it is despite the idea that Samus IS the Metroid being perfect for a new game, 2D or 3D, post-Fusion.
@Ventilator
Endless Ocean 3 for FTW !!!
I would also love a new Excite Truck, some SSX Tricky type games, Beach Spikers 2, a new Fire Emblem which can be played on a big screen, a new Pikmin, ... and of course, a new F-Zero (F-Zero NX lol ?) !!!
@JaxonH
I know what you're getting at. However Nintendo aren't in a position to get sniffy about games that only sell a million. Every indicator you can think of when it comes to Nintendo's business (bar mobile gaming) is trending downwards. In the NES and SNES days they could afford to sit at the top of the pyramid pushing out three or four huge sellers a year and reaping the profits along with all those third-party licencing fees. Not any more.
If NX is, as many suspect, a vehicle to primarily sell Nintendo software with limited third-party support they're going to need their hardcore fans. Those people are quite possibly the only people left who really care about Nintendo. If a million of them will buy Metroid or half a million will buy F-Zero and Advance Wars Nintendo will need them. They can't just put out Mario/Zelda/Pokemon and infinitum and with all their resources concentrated on one machine there's little practical reason for any Nintendo franchise to be ignored.
If it's a new 3D Metroid I'd like it to be something that's not Prime FPS. A 3D Metroid game needs to go back to what the Metroid series is, and that's an action platformer. The Prime series is great and all, but it also takes a lot from what a Metroid game is gameplay wise. Other M was on the right path, but Re-Core is an excellent example of how a 3D Metroid game should play.
@DiscoGentleman : It would have been gorgeous in 720p on Wii U.
Wii got 2 of them, and 0 for Wii U.
Atleast they could have upscaled the Wii versions, and added touch screen support and re-sell them.
@ElGrego : It would be cool if they only upscaled Endless Ocean 2 to HD, and add touch screen support. That game kinda begged for HD version.
Excite Truck should also get a sequel. I hope Nintendo revives a bunch of games on NX to test the waters.
@Ventilator :
Thanks for your answer... But I do not completly agree :
Sequels are complicated, as developpers seem to believe that they MUST add new stuff (to please the pro reviewers maybe ?) while most players would simply like to see a simple sequel to what they already love
@JaxonH Exactly right! People claim they deserve these games, simply because they want them, but they are such a small minority group of the self entitled, and then new installations to these series all fail to "wow" in sales numbers, even with critical acclaim. It gets to a point where it's not worth Nintendo's time and effort. Even though Metroid is without a doubt my favourite Nintendo series, it's sales numbers are pitiful. I think the series needs different approach to try and grab a larger audience. I mean 1 to 1.5 million (with only 2 cases of 2mil+) lifetime sales, most on Nintendo's best selling consoles? What a joke! Compare that to Splatoon, a new IP that's sold 4.5 million + on Nintendo's worse selling console. If that don't tell you something's wrong, I don't know what will.
@electrolite77 Actually they ARE in a position to be "to get sniffy about games that only sell a million", more so than before. Being on top mean they could be more relaxed with underselling games. But now and as a business, if a product isn't going to sell well it's a waste of time and resources to even bother to develop them. Now that's not to say Nintendo won't give those series another go, but if they continue to undersell, it's very likely now these game series are close, if not already, standing on their last legs, they'll find themselves in a Fire Emblem/Chibi Robo situation.
@electrolite77
I'm beginning to question whether they do need the hardcore fans anymore though. It's a million people, 2 million tops. Which is why all the games only hardcore fans love sell less than 1-2 mil.
I'm thinking 10 million of the Wii U's sold were to more casual gamers. And I know people immediately think soccer moms when they hear casual but that's not necessarily true. A lot of people I met who owned Wii U were not big time gamers. Just middle class guys who had the spare change to afford a console for Mario and maybe Zelda, and Smash/Mario Kart.
I think the hardcore fans believe they are more important than they really are. The hardcore fans can't even keep beloved series alive with minimal sales anymore, without help from the more casual gamers (it's why Pikmin 3, DKC Tropical Freeze sold 1 mil but Smash, Splatoon sold 3-4mil)
I hate to say that but, it explains why fans rage so hard when Nintendo doesn't do what they want, and it explains why Nintendo isn't really keen on reacting when fans say jump.
As much as I'd love a new Metroid game, I have enough memories of the older titles (not to mention copies of them all hanging around my house in various formats for various consoles) to help me wait it out. I'd MUCH rather have a new Kid Icarus or F-Zero game. But since neither of them seem all that likely... well, at least I have several Kid Icarusesess S on my 3DS. And if I'm feeling really motivated I can put F-Zero GX in my Wii and then remember that my memory card was corrupted many years ago and then go lie down and cry for a while. And that's just about the same thing as playing a new F-Zero game thanks to their ridiculously difficult learning curves.
@ElGrego : You are probably right. I sadly haven't played any of them enough "yet" to remember the differences.
Casualized is not a good thing, so that makes ED 1 better.
Nintendo have messed up a few sequels to try new things that doesen't work, and they still do that. Paper Mario Wii U is next mess up. Metroid 3DS didn't work out well either as it wasn't a true Metroid game.
Splinter Cell Blacklist on Wii U. So awesome in co-op that i would gladly pay 40 bucks for 16 more DLC mission maps.
Sniper Elite 3 don't exist on Wii U, but it was so perfect that i wanted a sequel with new levels only.
Sniper Elite 4 is coming in february and the levels is 3 times as big, but gameplay is about the same.
Pretty much every single Ninty franchise deserves a chance.
I would love a new Punch Out though.
@JaxonH
But do you not think that chasing the Blue Ocean while leaving long-term/hardcore fans to get more and more disgruntled is part of the reason Nintendo are in such a mess, sales-wise? To be able to ditch their core fans would be utterly unprecedented. They're the first ones to buy the hardware at high price, the first to back punts like Splatoon, the first to fill their shelves with Amiibo. If Nintendo only concentrate on their biggest sellers, the ones with some mainstream pull they'll quickly run out of franchises. Most businesses of this type (as well as writers, rock bands etc.) probably regard their most loyal fans as a pest with their constant demands but they're very valuable.
Before I even voted in the poll I knew metroid would be #1. I played axiom Verge recently and it was amazing. Filled the metroid sized hole in my metroid sized heart.
Blast Corps
Yeah I agree with this list!
Eternal Darkness
Anything wario or kirby air ride 2.
I would be happy for all too return on the NX.
I was surprised that a new 2D Metroid did not appear on the DS and/or the Wii. I am surprised that there hasn't been a 2D Metroid on the 3DS and/or Wii U. Metroid is a franchise with a high demand for a new 2D entry, look at AM2R, and for some reason Nintendo in spite of its push of 2D gaming over the past two generations has not made this kind of Metroid game happen. While I would prefer and love a new Prime that continues from where Federation Force leaves off, a 2D entry is what the franchise needs right now and hopefully it'll be out by 2018. It doesn't have to be and should not have to be Metroid 5, which Nintendo seems bankrupt on ideas for in terms of story, just put Samus Aran on a mission for the Federation that takes her to a foreign world with new threats, a mix of old and new abilities and exploration on level with what one would expect from the Zebes-centered 2D Metroids.
Actually, I think there should be a game where all the universes of all the big Nintendo franchises collide in a 3D type of world, and the characters work together as friends to bring things back to normal! There would be some sort of mind-controlling villain in charge who would take all but a few characters, and you'd have to get the main ones back.
...I guess I'm describing a really cool, 3D version of the Subspace Emissary from SSBBrawl, but far superior story-wise.
@wubbykeith Oh, and playing as a character in the game should be similar to controlling them in their own games if possible. They should retain all their special abilities that they use, and there should be things in levels that only a select few characters can access.
@Ralek85 So... that Splatoon story is tragic. So, I thought to myself, do other people still not use the motion controls? I looked it up and I guess some people do. Just wow. After playing a couple games against real people, I thought that entire community of Splatoon players accepted it and moved on in the first week. *I exaggerate here, but only a little.
I always played FPS games on PC/Mac avoiding the horrible ruin that happened when they moved to dual stick on consoles which I still find pretty much barbaric when there are so many better ways (wii remote pointing with lock-on, mouse, sticks + gyro and now maybe some good VR options).
I mean I'll do it that admittedly mainstream way if I have to, but it's like leaving half your brain out of the equation and aiming mostly by moving; I imagine a person in real life with real weapons with their weapon arm just locked in position with only slow smooth movements locked to their head rather than being able to dart quick towards a target and shoot. Instead you start walking sideways until they are in your sites slowly rotating. lol. It's amazing to me that people prefer it to adjusting to a much more involving, accurate, and ultimately satisfying alternative.
But, yeah, mild discomfort or having to train yourself a bit, it's just entertainment after all it shouldn't take effort. I do understand that part, I just find it sad. Like always eating factory manufactured cookies pumped full of preservatives and shipped miles when you can, with a little effort, mix and bake some from scratch at home or even just go out of the way to visit a bakery to get something fresh and warm and so, so much better.
Anyway, it is what it is and the industry certainly feels that even though gamers demand something new they don't actually want to put any effort into it on their own part. As a result, big budget successful games have generally become more passive, relying on big budget storytelling to entertain and sticking with controls that the core gamers are already accustomed to with every variance a fearful risk-heavy endeavor.
Fortunately it's a general trend that doesn't effect all games and gamers respond to some new ways to play from time to time. Money is on same old game controls with new environments/stories though. :/
(This also ignores online competitive gaming which has gotten interesting as mastering new ways to play becomes an attraction sometimes, but this reply is becoming an unreferenced dissertation, so...)
@aaronsullivan Not sure what you are getting at, as Splatoon is pretty much the only game I can name off the top of my head, that supports the control scheme you were referring to. Outside of only ever playing that single game, there is really nothing to learn or train for here.
I also do not agree with your implicit argument, that it makes for a superior control scheme. I don't particular favour sticks for 1st/3rd person either (It's a different story for a game like Star Fox), but each setup has it's up- and downsides.
Pointer controls are great for immersion and precision, but they are utterly terrible for fast paced games, relying on quick turns, strafes and the likes.
Nothing beats a mouse as a general purpose weapon for shooters, but some don't like playing with a mouse on their couch. I don't mind it, but I understand how a gamepad can be more convenient, definitely if you do something like local-multiplayer for example.
I never felt gyro controls had the same level of precision, I normally demand of control schemes for shooters. Aside from it being ultra rare, and thus alien, so to speak, that is my biggest gripe with them. If you feel like adapting to them, they can work fine for a game like Splatoon, that does not even have systems like e.g. "head shots", but for most "modern" (as far as design philsophy goes, I don't mind games that feel closer to UT or Time Splitters or whatever your poison may have been) shooters, that is just not an option.
It's a secondary concern anyways, as the most important aspect as far as controls is concerend, is the ability to play at maximum sensitivity and thus turn-speed. If you can do that, and keep your aim tight, the rest of those controls is just noise.
Like I said, I don't mind optional gyro controls. That doesn't hurt anybody. It's not a superior scheme, it's just different, and it's not going to catch on anytime soon, even assuming Nintendo has not already decided to once more abandon it with the NX. I wouldn't be surprised if it was as shortlived as those pointer controls, which were hardly ever used and have long since been dead again.
I mean at some point, we just have to face reality of what works (for the vast majority of consumers) and what doesn't. The rest then is merely academic. Nothing wrong with that of course, just saying though ...
I mean, would I have liked for e.g. RE4 on PS4 to support Move? Of course, after all that is the only thing that keeps the ugly Wii version somewhat relevant to this day, but unfortunately, few people still care about Move, so obviously no one could be bothered to implement it.
Did I like playing Child of Eden with Move and in 3D? Yes, and I would have bought REZ if it allowed for the same feature in addition other VR support. Again though, 3D is dead for console gaming, and Move is all but dead, despite PSVR once more making use of it.
I will add this though, pointer-controls are a natural method of control a shooter, as you ... literally point and shoot. Swiveling a tablet around with your hands for the same purpose, is even less natural or intuitiv than using a joystick.
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