I never hated this game. Though, I did have my doubts. I'm not complaining, but I mean, I guess I can understand how some would feel about it. The mainline Pokemon games are still easy and simple. And they follow the same formula for the most part game, after game, after game. And, I still find enjoyment out of it.
It reminds me of the Dynasty Warriors games. I love them even though people are quick to call it just rehash and the complaints for DW9 were understandable when they strayed too far from the formula that worked for fans.
I'm obviously looking forward to generation 8 more than this. But, I won't completely write these games off. I'm not a very competitive player and I casually play the main games for the most part. (With the exception of some EV training)
I hope this new audience gets onboard with the next generation. Pokémon Switch is gonna be amazing, I'm sure.
@Haywired I'm not saying it can't run, but I think a lot of people take fighters for granted in terms of how demanding they are. Neither Soul Calibur VI or Tekken 7 do native 1080P on base PS4 IIRC. And I think SFV was fairly demanding when it came out too.
It's already enough work as it is trying to get MMOs on consoles to begin with. And the Switch's hardware which is even weaker including lack of storage space doesn't help at all.
@PrincessBowsette But that's not the point. You were talking about controls. How someone prefers to play is irrelevant. And I'm not sure why you keep bringing up heat as if every phone is going to blow up or something. Plenty of phones including mine handle that just fine over long periods of time.
@Balta666 Well, if you're playing it like that, then yeah. The enemies can be laughable. They are pretty much just there to throw around without any real problem.
Even so, I still enjoyed knocking them around like that. Hard mode really keeps you on your feet and makes it more than just mindlessly button mashing, but if you don't enjoy playing the game on normal modes either, it's probably safe to say these games aren't really for you.
@Balta666 If you play Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate on hard or chaos, you have to make sure not to get shot by too many archers which will end you if you're just slashing away at enemies.
Also, you need to pay attention to what kind of weapons you're using along with attributes that might help or else you're probably going to struggle. Some enemy officers literally one shot you if you slip up.
Hyrule Warriors is another one. The Adventure Mode maps all usually have a specific requirement. Although, they have set difficulty, some of them can be downright ridiculous. Like, "don't get hit" for example.
I get that these games just look like basic hack & slash on the surface, but anyone who's invested time into them along with the different modes can tell you there's usually more to it than that.
@Balta666 I love when people call these games button mashers cause it shows they haven't really been playing them. Trust me, you will die pretty fast if button mashing is your only strategy on higher difficulties.
Here is my question to you guys. How much would you be willing to spend on mobile games for a better gaming experience? Most of you probably would not spend more than $10.
This is the mindset of most people and this is why you get free to play games.
It's just something you'll have to live with due to the Switch trying to be portable. Be thankful you aren't getting the same 50+GB required file size like the other consoles. THAT would be a problem.
@Dalarrun While I see what you're getting at, I feel like the way speed works for Sonic in games like 3&K and Mania are the best example of how it should be.
I suppose the games do have a big learning curve if you're not used to it. But, they reward you greatly with speed when you avoid enemies and obstacles.
That can't be said about every level, but that's usually the case for most.
@BigKing City Escape is iconic... Still one of the best.
I love JSR so much, but I don't blame them if they don't want to do it. It already got an HD version and I still don't see many people who know about it or even care.
@dleec8 But this still confuses me. I want to know the real reasoning behind this. Reggie said if we want Netflix or whatever on the Switch, we have to take it up with them.
But, why? Netflix and other streaming services are on basically every device ever. I doubt they wouldn't want to put it on the Switch as well. Nintendo must be telling them they can't do it or something. I don't know.
@Mew Because this isn't replacing the core game releasing next year. I really wouldn't like if this was the only thing we got, but they've confirmed the Pokémon most of us do want is already in the works.
Once I got that confirmation, I was alright. But some others still hold a grudge against this game. Like, who cares? Let the Let's GO players do their thing while we get ours next.
@NIN10DOXD Like I said, this fanbase is divided. I guarantee you the core game is not going to satisfy some of the same people complaining about this. Whether it's the new Pokémon designs, the region, the story, Mega Stones, etc.
-A better display (the one on the current Switch is very reflective in sunlight, bleh)
-More internal storage
-Bigger and more efficient battery
-More power (of course)
Even if all they do is bump it up to docked speed in portable mode with a more efficient cooling solution so it can handle it, then even that would be a considerable upgrade.
@Mgene15 Admittedly, this year has been slower than last, but I don't see it as that bad. The Switch has mostly been carried throughout this year with third party ports and some of them quite excellent too. DBFZ just released for example.
Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition is one of the games that's taken up a ton of my time. I still want Bayonetta and Octopath Traveler. As well as the Kirby game from the start of the year. (Though I think that's priced bit too high for my liking)
I'm curious as to what games you want as well as what games you play on your Switch. I don't even have all of what I want from last year. I need to catch up...
@Agramonte Why can't we have both? What is with people and this logic that older ports are bad? If the Switch didn't get "old rehash" as you say it, we wouldn't have Skyrim, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and we also wouldn't be getting the first Valkyria Chronicles.
People really need to stop being salty about upgrades. Get used to it, seriously. We already got it with the other consoles and it's a good option for people who have the money. It doesn't even affect you.
Man, this is like people who say PC gaming is bad because new graphics cards always release. You can literally just not buy it and move on.
I wonder the same thing myself. I looked at my games that I barely play or haven't even touched and thought, do I really need to keep buying more games?
I feel like you'll be more satisfied if you put your focus on one or two games at a time. It really makes you see just how much content some of your games have too.
@Heavyarms55 Warriors Orochi 3 is really great. I put down Hyrule Warriors for like a week just to play that game. I wish I could see my play time on PS4 cause I'm pretty sure it's huge by now. Seeing as this has just about every character including new with new features to gameplay, I'm about to waste my whole life again once I get this...
@Yosher While it's true you'll probably enjoy it more if you know some of the characters, I wouldn't worry about that too much. With apparently 170, you're bound to find someone you like. That was the case for me when I jumped into the second game in this. (Warriors Orochi 2)
I love some of these characters so much that I want to go play the games they are from like Dynasty Warriors 8 and Samurai Warriors 4.
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Re: Soapbox: Don't Listen To The Pokémon: Let’s Go Haters - The Game Has Definitely Found Its Audience
I never hated this game. Though, I did have my doubts. I'm not complaining, but I mean, I guess I can understand how some would feel about it. The mainline Pokemon games are still easy and simple. And they follow the same formula for the most part game, after game, after game. And, I still find enjoyment out of it.
It reminds me of the Dynasty Warriors games. I love them even though people are quick to call it just rehash and the complaints for DW9 were understandable when they strayed too far from the formula that worked for fans.
I'm obviously looking forward to generation 8 more than this. But, I won't completely write these games off. I'm not a very competitive player and I casually play the main games for the most part. (With the exception of some EV training)
I hope this new audience gets onboard with the next generation. Pokémon Switch is gonna be amazing, I'm sure.
Re: Dead Or Alive Xtreme 3: Scarlet Is Splashing Onto The Switch Early Next Year
Nice. Now bring DOA 6.
Re: Video: Sega Producer Takashi Iizuka Talks Team Sonic Racing At The Tokyo Game Show 2018
I really can't wait for this game, tbh. I'm already looking forward to playing as Blaze and Rouge so much.
Re: Nintendo's System Specs Have Always Been A "Big Barrier" For Bethesda
@Agramonte It sounds kind of like you're missing the point of the Switch.
Re: SNK Producer Says King Of Fighters XIV "Would Definitely Be A Possibility" On Nintendo Switch
@PrincessBowsette Yes, they should. It would be amazing and it would probably compensate for not getting Soul Calibur VI.
Re: SNK Producer Says King Of Fighters XIV "Would Definitely Be A Possibility" On Nintendo Switch
@Haywired I'm not saying it can't run, but I think a lot of people take fighters for granted in terms of how demanding they are. Neither Soul Calibur VI or Tekken 7 do native 1080P on base PS4 IIRC. And I think SFV was fairly demanding when it came out too.
Re: Bethesda Confirms It Won't Be Bringing Fallout 76 To The Nintendo Switch
Just like the majority of big third party titles. Sucks, but it's no surprise. Too bad, Switch owners.
Re: Elder Scrolls Online Isn't Coming To The Nintendo Switch Because It "Will Not Fit"
It's already enough work as it is trying to get MMOs on consoles to begin with. And the Switch's hardware which is even weaker including lack of storage space doesn't help at all.
Re: It's Official, Team Sonic Racing Has Been Delayed Until 21st May 2019
Nickelodeon Kart Racers had them shook.
Re: Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends Definitive Edition Is Heading To Switch In The West
Now we need Samurai Warriors 4.
Re: Random: Bowsette Has Been Recreated By Fans In The New SoulCalibur Game
Just what I needed. Bowsette to beat me up. Thanks, Soul Calibur VI.
Re: Ubisoft Shutting Down Online Services For Older Just Dance Games On Wii And Wii U Next Month
There was online in these games?
...Huh.
Re: Soapbox: Huawei's Not The First Company To Vie For Nintendo's Portable Crown, And It Won't Be The Last
@PrincessBowsette But that's not the point. You were talking about controls. How someone prefers to play is irrelevant. And I'm not sure why you keep bringing up heat as if every phone is going to blow up or something. Plenty of phones including mine handle that just fine over long periods of time.
Re: Soapbox: Huawei's Not The First Company To Vie For Nintendo's Portable Crown, And It Won't Be The Last
It's amusing to see people genuinely upset over this phone.
Re: Review: Warriors Orochi 4 - A Boisterous But Samey Sequel That Won't Win Over Naysayers
@Balta666 Well, if you're playing it like that, then yeah. The enemies can be laughable. They are pretty much just there to throw around without any real problem.
Even so, I still enjoyed knocking them around like that. Hard mode really keeps you on your feet and makes it more than just mindlessly button mashing, but if you don't enjoy playing the game on normal modes either, it's probably safe to say these games aren't really for you.
Re: Review: Warriors Orochi 4 - A Boisterous But Samey Sequel That Won't Win Over Naysayers
@Balta666 If you play Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate on hard or chaos, you have to make sure not to get shot by too many archers which will end you if you're just slashing away at enemies.
Also, you need to pay attention to what kind of weapons you're using along with attributes that might help or else you're probably going to struggle. Some enemy officers literally one shot you if you slip up.
Hyrule Warriors is another one. The Adventure Mode maps all usually have a specific requirement. Although, they have set difficulty, some of them can be downright ridiculous. Like, "don't get hit" for example.
I get that these games just look like basic hack & slash on the surface, but anyone who's invested time into them along with the different modes can tell you there's usually more to it than that.
Re: Review: Warriors Orochi 4 - A Boisterous But Samey Sequel That Won't Win Over Naysayers
@Balta666 I love when people call these games button mashers cause it shows they haven't really been playing them. Trust me, you will die pretty fast if button mashing is your only strategy on higher difficulties.
Re: Video: Huawei Claim their Phone is Better than Nintendo Switch
@Dalarrun My point is everyone is comparing the quality of the games, yet they wouldn't be willing to game on a phone anyways.
Re: Video: Huawei Claim their Phone is Better than Nintendo Switch
Here is my question to you guys. How much would you be willing to spend on mobile games for a better gaming experience? Most of you probably would not spend more than $10.
This is the mindset of most people and this is why you get free to play games.
Re: Starlink: Battle For Atlas Physical Release Will Require A 6GB Day One Update
It's just something you'll have to live with due to the Switch trying to be portable. Be thankful you aren't getting the same 50+GB required file size like the other consoles. THAT would be a problem.
Re: Sonic Double Pack For Nintendo Switch Listed On Amazon Italy
@Dalarrun While I see what you're getting at, I feel like the way speed works for Sonic in games like 3&K and Mania are the best example of how it should be.
I suppose the games do have a big learning curve if you're not used to it. But, they reward you greatly with speed when you avoid enemies and obstacles.
That can't be said about every level, but that's usually the case for most.
@BigKing City Escape is iconic... Still one of the best.
Re: Here's A Look At The In-Game Goodies You'll Get With Splatoon 2's Octoling amiibo
I don't need it... I don't need it... I definitely don't need it.
Re: Ubisoft Eager To Find Out Most Loved Mario Characters In New Subscriber Survey
@MH4 inb4 Rabbid Peach trophy
Re: Random: Super Mario Party Shows That Nintendo Still Can't Decide Birdo's Gender
You can't look at this thing and seriously tell me that's a guy.
Re: Rumour: Promo Booklet Suggests Team Sonic Racing Might Be Delayed Until 2019
@Heavyarms55 If you're alright with losing every race you participate in, then sure. He doesn't need a car.
Re: Pre-Orders Are Now Live For These Officially Licensed Nintendo Switch Protectors
@SimplyCinnamon53 No problem. 👍
Re: Pre-Orders Are Now Live For These Officially Licensed Nintendo Switch Protectors
@SimplyCinnamon53 It's Ulala from Space Channel 5.
Re: Pre-Orders Are Now Live For These Officially Licensed Nintendo Switch Protectors
They look so gooood.
Re: Surprise! Both Guacamelee Games Headed To Switch, First Available Right Now
The first one is great and really fun! Definitely try it if you can.
Re: Video: New Super Mario Bros. Wii Mod Adds Bowsette To Final Boss Battle
This is really well made. I'd love an official Bowsette in NSMBU.
Re: Sega Wants To Meet Fan Expectations, But Unsure About Inclusion Of Jet Set Radio In AGES Line
I love JSR so much, but I don't blame them if they don't want to do it. It already got an HD version and I still don't see many people who know about it or even care.
Re: Reggie Says Nintendo Competes For Consumer Time, Not Concerned About Direct Competition
@dleec8 But this still confuses me. I want to know the real reasoning behind this. Reggie said if we want Netflix or whatever on the Switch, we have to take it up with them.
But, why? Netflix and other streaming services are on basically every device ever. I doubt they wouldn't want to put it on the Switch as well. Nintendo must be telling them they can't do it or something. I don't know.
Re: Reggie Says Nintendo Competes For Consumer Time, Not Concerned About Direct Competition
@dleec8 This doesn't add up when you realize that even Nintendo's own consoles prior to the Switch had multimedia apps.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 6th)
It's been a mix of Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition, Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, and Skyrim.
Sleeping Dogs is really fun, guys. Better than GTA V imo.
Re: Feature: Why Pokémon: Let's Go Is The Perfect Entry Point For Pokémon GO Players
@Mew Because this isn't replacing the core game releasing next year. I really wouldn't like if this was the only thing we got, but they've confirmed the Pokémon most of us do want is already in the works.
Once I got that confirmation, I was alright. But some others still hold a grudge against this game. Like, who cares? Let the Let's GO players do their thing while we get ours next.
@NIN10DOXD Like I said, this fanbase is divided. I guarantee you the core game is not going to satisfy some of the same people complaining about this. Whether it's the new Pokémon designs, the region, the story, Mega Stones, etc.
Re: Feature: Why Pokémon: Let's Go Is The Perfect Entry Point For Pokémon GO Players
@Mew You aren't. I'm mostly referring to people making a huge uproar about this game.
Re: Feature: Why Pokémon: Let's Go Is The Perfect Entry Point For Pokémon GO Players
@Mew Honestly, this fanbase is pretty toxic. It's almost as divided as the Sonic fanbase.
Re: Feature: Why Pokémon: Let's Go Is The Perfect Entry Point For Pokémon GO Players
Gamefreak literally told you we were getting a core game in 2019 and you guys still can't get over this game.
Re: Feature: What Do You Want From A New Nintendo Switch?
What I want from a new Switch would be:
-A better display (the one on the current Switch is very reflective in sunlight, bleh)
-More internal storage
-Bigger and more efficient battery
-More power (of course)
Even if all they do is bump it up to docked speed in portable mode with a more efficient cooling solution so it can handle it, then even that would be a considerable upgrade.
Re: Rumour: New Nintendo Switch SKU Planned For Late 2019
@Mgene15 Admittedly, this year has been slower than last, but I don't see it as that bad. The Switch has mostly been carried throughout this year with third party ports and some of them quite excellent too. DBFZ just released for example.
Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition is one of the games that's taken up a ton of my time. I still want Bayonetta and Octopath Traveler. As well as the Kirby game from the start of the year. (Though I think that's priced bit too high for my liking)
I'm curious as to what games you want as well as what games you play on your Switch. I don't even have all of what I want from last year. I need to catch up...
Re: Limited Run Games Set To Release First And Only Wii U Game, Lost "A Lot" Of Money Making It Happen
@pika677 It was a failure. Let's not even damage control.
Re: Rumour: New Nintendo Switch SKU Planned For Late 2019
@Agramonte Why can't we have both? What is with people and this logic that older ports are bad? If the Switch didn't get "old rehash" as you say it, we wouldn't have Skyrim, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and we also wouldn't be getting the first Valkyria Chronicles.
Re: Rumour: New Nintendo Switch SKU Planned For Late 2019
People really need to stop being salty about upgrades. Get used to it, seriously. We already got it with the other consoles and it's a good option for people who have the money. It doesn't even affect you.
Man, this is like people who say PC gaming is bad because new graphics cards always release. You can literally just not buy it and move on.
Re: Limited Run Games Set To Release First And Only Wii U Game, Lost "A Lot" Of Money Making It Happen
"Lost a lot of money making it happen"
The Wii U in a nutshell.
Re: Psyonix CEO Wants Unified Rocket League Community, Might Take Time To Implement
Sony: Oh my God, I already did crossplay with you guys. Leave me alone.
Re: Soapbox: Why Do We Want More Games When We've Already Got Too Many?
I wonder the same thing myself. I looked at my games that I barely play or haven't even touched and thought, do I really need to keep buying more games?
I feel like you'll be more satisfied if you put your focus on one or two games at a time. It really makes you see just how much content some of your games have too.
Re: Guide: The Best Pokémon Games - Every Mainline Pokémon Game Ranked
Pokemon XY was my very first game after a long time of ignoring the series. It got me into it, so it'll always have a place in my heart.
Re: Super Mario Odyssey Art Book Reveals "Official Bowsette" Concept Existed Long Before The Fan-Made One
I wish we would get more fanart of guitar Rosalina from the artbook, but I guess that's asking for too much.
Re: Random: Switch Hack-And-Slash Game Warriors Orochi 4 Just Won A Guinness World Record
@Heavyarms55 Warriors Orochi 3 is really great. I put down Hyrule Warriors for like a week just to play that game. I wish I could see my play time on PS4 cause I'm pretty sure it's huge by now. Seeing as this has just about every character including new with new features to gameplay, I'm about to waste my whole life again once I get this...
@Yosher While it's true you'll probably enjoy it more if you know some of the characters, I wouldn't worry about that too much. With apparently 170, you're bound to find someone you like. That was the case for me when I jumped into the second game in this. (Warriors Orochi 2)
I love some of these characters so much that I want to go play the games they are from like Dynasty Warriors 8 and Samurai Warriors 4.
Re: Random: Switch Hack-And-Slash Game Warriors Orochi 4 Just Won A Guinness World Record
Haha, I knew most playable characters was exactly what it was going to be before I read this.