Soapbox features enable our individual writers to voice their own opinions on hot topics, opinions that may not necessarily be the voice of the site. In this piece, Serebii owner and Nintendo Life contributor Joe Merrick finally addresses the topic of Pokémon: Let's Go sales figures...
Pokémon Let’s Go is undoubtedly the most divisive Pokémon games to exist, with negative attention everywhere on the internet, despite the obvious high quality of the game itself. Designed to bridge the gap for Pokémon GO newcomers and the hardcore, mainline content we’ve come to expect, the game truly delivers exactly what was promised - yet we're hearing reports that fans are review-bombing the game in disgust.
Is this negativity justified? No, but the sheer volume of negative noise about the game has made people start to believe that it was always going to fail. It has been almost a week since Pokémon: Let’s Go launched and we’re starting to get solid sales figures. With sales data from Japan and the UK, we’re getting a picture of how these games fit in, sales-wise, to the context of the wider series, and what it may mean for the franchise going forward.
To start off, in Japan, the game has sold 664,198 physical copies according to Famitsu and 661,240 according to Media Create. Now, in terms of sheer numbers, this puts it behind every single Pokémon game since Pokémon Crystal, and makes it the second-lowest selling outing overall for a launch week. Of course, we can’t get a full global picture until Nintendo’s sales briefing in January, but using Japan as a foundation we can see how well it’s doing in Pokémon’s home turf.
In terms of pure numbers, this may seem quite bad, but when we look at it in a nice table format (with data collected from Media Create), it showcases that, in terms of attach rate, these games are doing fine, thanks very much.
Game | Week 1 Sales | Device Install Base week of launch |
Attach Rate |
---|---|---|---|
Pokémon Diamond & Pearl | 1,588,734 | 11,439,351 | 13.89 |
Pokémon Platinum | 963,273 | 23,417,921 | 4.11 |
Pokémon HeartGold & SoulSilver | 1,442,990 | 27,697,364 | 5.21 |
Pokémon Black & White | 2,557,779 | 31,002,197 | 8.25 |
Pokémon Black 2 & White 2 | 1,561,738 | 32,852,835 | 4.75 |
Pokémon X & Y | 2,048,444 | 13,223,532 | 15.49 |
Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire | 1,508,665 | 17,036,780 | 8.86 |
Pokémon Sun & Moon | 1,893,387 | 21,520,967 | 8.80 |
Pokémon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon | 1,163,003 | 23,533,118 | 4.94 |
Pokémon Let's Go, Pikachu! & Eevee! | 661,240 | 5,601,957 | 11.80 |
This showcases that these games have sold well in conjunction with the console’s install base. The Nintendo Switch is less than two years old and is much younger than any device that Pokémon has been put onto, which means a smaller install base - so it stands to reason that the numbers wouldn’t be higher, because there are fewer players to sell the product to. It’s also worth noting the sales data doesn’t include digital downloads, which become more and more dominant. In that respect, Let's Go's performance is robust.
On the flipside, the game has helped to drive hardware sales, with almost 200,000 Switches being bought in launch week in Japan alone. Granted, that also factored in the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate special edition, which was also on sale that week, but it will definitely have contributed.
This story doesn’t just apply to Japan, either. Data from ChartTrack in the UK also showcases that the game is doing well, selling less than Sun & Moon and X & Y but more than Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon. This shows a similar tracking in terms of attach rate, with it having a 12 percent attach rate in the UK - close to the figure seen in Japan.
So why do this matter? By putting a main series Pokémon RPG onto the Switch early on, it helps build the audience and Pokémon Let’s Go is certainly a game that can do that. Playing on nostalgia, as well as the mechanics and connectivity with Pokémon GO - one of the most popular mobile games of all time, lest we forget - has introduced a whole new wave of players into the mainline Pokémon series. This was a clever marketing strategy, and by doing it with a game that doesn’t start a new generation and is a remake of a beloved classic, it helps build the audience in a great way without damaging the sales that people come to expect from the start of a brand new generation.
This game was never meant to be the big hardcore Pokémon experience that we have come to expect, and that’s why it's proving to be the most divisive game we've seen so far - even to the point that many players refuse to accept it’s a main series title, despite Game Freak, Nintendo and The Pokémon Company repeatedly stating it. No matter what the haters say, Pokémon: Let's Go has been a roaring success when it comes to its core aims, and the sales are fully indicative of this.
Next year is Generation 8, the next main series game after Let’s Go and the start of a new Pokémon generation. New generations always do really well and it’s the game that the hardcore base - including those who seem to dislike Let’s Go so much - have been waiting for. However, with a whole new userbase being added via Let’s Go, this could introduce Pokémon into a new golden age, where its commercial performance eclipses even that of its Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, DS and 3DS forerunners. We will see this time next year if this strategy has paid off, but those who are trying to paint Let’s Go as a failure are totally missing the point - and are seemingly blind to the facts.
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Joe merrick destroys the haters with FACTS and LOGIC.
Had to make that joke, sorry.
You will not believe the amount of Pokemon GO whales who bought a Switch + this game. Smartest business decision they ever made.
The nostalgia and stunning presentation are worth the cost of admission alone, but the core mechanics and simplicity definitely take their toll and grow very monotonous and stale after a while. I realize I probably wasn’t the target audience for this, but I’m still absolutely finding things to enjoy about it, and that’s saying something.
When the haters get wrecked by Joe Merrick, you know life is good xD
I'm in that audience!
Love the game. My Pikachu and I rule the world together.
Screw the haters.
The main reason some people are hating on let's Go is because they use the pokémon go catching mechanic. I'm still enjoying everything this game has to offer. I can't wait for next year's pokémon game!
I feel bad for all the people who got suckered into this game.
I remember time when Joe claimed that your Pokemon don't gain experience in the "tutorial" part of Black/White - later it was confirmed to be an anti-piracy mechanic. Some years later he would confirm that the gen 7 starter leaks, featuring Incineroar, soon to be featured in Smash Bros. Ultimate, were fake. Now I'm supposed to believe that a game is good because it sold well? Sure thing, Joe.
People buy terrible things all the time, like McDonald's
@thesilverbrick Same here - but there is something...really uninspired about the game in parts tho - not just dogging on the simplicity of the mechanics. Like the caves...they're a perfect example - playing it and I'm just like, "yeah I know how it felt on Gameboy, but this is a drag and feels kind of lazy in 2018." Disappointed by the game, know I'm not the audience, BUT all the random trainers and their awkward dialog "hey I like shorts (battle music)," is soooo charming and interacting with [Eevee] is enough to keep me playing at least a little longer.
So basically, don't listen to the words from these people on the internet, listen to the words from THESE people instead? God these soapboxes are looking awfully wobbly.......
@Alex0714 That's one thing. Other is not having access to all the Pokémon. Oh, and the missing abilities/held items mechanics too, and I could add that these changes limit the metagame most competitive players are used to. At least these are the reason why I skipped the game. I couldn't give a flying f about the catching mechanic personally, but I can see why some people may think that this is the only reason why others don't like this game.
Of course some people like it, a lot of people like it actually.
I'm still not giving it my money. They advertised this as a mainline game but it's more of a spinoff. No plans for Pokémon bank I hear, you have to spend $50 or so for mew, no pro controller support. Eevee is infinitely more op than pikachu...
It's not a bad game, but it's also not what I'm looking for. Luckily, we still have a real mainline one coming next year I think.
You really can’t call this strategy a success on pure sales though. The whole point is to draw in Go players to build the fanbase. Just because it’s selling well doesn’t necessarily mean it’s succeeding at bringing in new fans, we’d need data on how many people that didn’t buy previous games are buying this one. And I’m not convinced there’s a lot with these numbers, what’s most likely happening is it’s selling more to existing fans that simply aren’t bothered by the changes than converting Go fans into main series fans.
For something to be a good business decision, it can’t just make money. It has to make more money than any other choice they could make. And considering the sales are trending about the same as other games I don’t think this game is really proving it’s the absolute best choice for a game this year, it seems like they could’ve gotten these numbers with any other game they could’ve made this year, not LGPE specifically. This game seems to be selling more on the virtue of being the first Switch Pokémon game more than its own merits. I think what this proves more is that the fanbase is extremely tolerant of change, they seem to buy the games anyway regardless of how bad they are. Which is a very scary precedent for this series, you have to wonder just how much worse this series can get if the fanbase allows Game Freak to get away with nearly anything.
@Octane Pretty much. Even bad fast food is enough if you're starving.
@goggles789 Really glad I chose not to listen to people like you and ended up giving the game a chance. I think it's brilliant.
Let's Go is great, it's not $60 great since its a remake of FireRed/LeafGreen with elements from Yellow.
I've played in Handheld mode and it's pretty good but I'd rather play on my TV without the wii motion controls.
It's a great entry point for new players but it's pretty much the same exact game which is pretty shallow by todays standards.
The Pokemon walking around in the wild is incredible and almsot creepy. I hope they keep that going in the future.
It should have been a $40 game and the Pokemon Go park that a lot of people probably bought it for is buried deep into the main game story line.
You heard it here folks, don't listen to 'those people' because they have the wrong opinion. The sales numbers don't look good but if we fish around we can find something that does look good.....OH YES, look at the attach rate! You see, it's just a matter of how you spin the.....uh I mean it's a matter of perspective.
Note: I like this game alot but I welcome the 'haters'.
@Bolt_Strike Exactly this. Now if someone can go ahead and write a Soapbox article that actually considers exactly what you just said, then we'll have a vastly improved article than this one.
@TeslaChippie I'm so sorry for you. You think you're enjoying this game. It's clear from the comments that if you were clever enough you'd realise you've been suckered by game freak into buying a bad game. Poor, poor you.
Great article.
Pokemon Let’s Go has had the second best debut of any Switch game. It only trails Splatoon 2, which managed to sell slightly more at 670,000 units. This is amazing, given that the Switch userbase is, in relative terms, still quite small.
I have also noticed on YouTube and elsewhere that a lot of people purchasing the game clearly also have a brand new Switch - which seems to evidence that new people are being encouraged to come on board.
Personally, I have had way more fun and enjoyment from these games than previous entries. I hope Gamefreak uses this opportunity to keep this format going forward as the existing mainline series had become very stale and boring.
The new catch mechanics are nicely balanced against time spent battling and the Pokeball Plus is a great accessory that helps to enhance the gameplay.
@Bolt_Strike I'm actually interested in that. I wonder how many are actually new fans from Go or returning fans from Gen I. It would be nice to know the Recurring/New player ratio, but it would hard to determine it I guess.
It’s definitely a fun game, but it is slightly disappointing how easy it is.
@TeslaChippie I'm not telling you to do anything. I'm just giving my opinion of the game.
The game is really fun, and I'm looking forward to 2019's game even more. Tbh after X and Y I wasn't as excited for the series anymore, but Let's Go rekindled my love.
"It definitely found it's audience"
So did FF XIII, and it's still a PoS...
It's brand loyality, nothing more, nothing less. It's called Pokemon, it's on Nintendos new hot console and it isn't exactly clear how barren and barebones its mechanics are when you don't do a little research yourself.
So of course it attracts boatloads of impulse buyers. And more power to them.
But can we please stop equating sales figures with a games quality? Going by this would mean Duck Hunt is a better videogame than Super Mario World...
Also, i'd like to see the data of people buying it, giving it an honest try and being disappointed by it.
Are those "Haters" too?
At least you marked this shill piece as a soapbox article...
Others would have labeled it a "review"...
@Kalmaro Where did they advertise it as a mainline game?
Nice work, Joe - but welcome to our post-fact, post-truth world, where toxicity and anonymous trolling reign supreme. A world where every single fanboy's specific needs, fan-fiction requirements, character requests, and features must be accommodated in order to prevent organized online hate campaigns. These are often branded as "criticism" (despite lack of thought, analysis, or intelligent points) or "listening to fans" to disguise the tantrums and myopic perspectives for what they truly are.
No amount of logic can cut through the "sky is falling" crowd (as we've seen in this forum on a weekly basis). Legit critiques and opinions are one thing, but what we've seen from this game, and other recent events (Last Jedi rings a bell) demonstrate something else.
Best to just remember that this is the toy department of life, and of no consequence to the real world, and move on.
@Devlind @Bolt_Strike Not only is it very difficult to know, there's also a lot of variables in play too... One is referenced in this article in terms of the Smash Bros. Hardware going on sale the same week, thus Smash contributed in part to that 200k Switch console sell through in Japan... One way that could provide at least an indication is sales of the dedicated Hardware bundle. If those are higher than other Hardware Bundles (Mario Odyssey for example) then that's a start.
I've come to accept Let's Go for what it is, and am enjoying it a lot, closing in 70h of playtime already. It sucks that there's absolutely no competitive play and they messed with a lot of systems, but as Joe said, it was never meant to do that. I'd say my biggest gripe with it is by far the awful online modes. I'm completely baffled that none of the reviews that I saw mentioned this monster of an online and found out by myself. Let me tell you a story: I wanted to trade a Graveler with a friend, to register Golem on the Pokédex, and we went online and put a code, assuming it's purpose was to pair us among our FRIEND'S LIST. Instead, it put us in GLOBAL environment where everyone with the same code could run into each other. Result: I gave my Graveler to a complete stranger and obviously didn't get it back. Luckily I ran into a kind Japanese player that traded a Graveler for another, and thus my faith in humanity was restored, but in Game Freak's capacity to make a simple online connection between friends, that faith is gone for good. In Joe's own words: I miss the Festival Plaza. And that's saying something.
@Anri02 Good question! I swear their entire marketing campaign has suggested the complete opposite and focused on it being a casual spin off game... They may not have used the words "spin off" or "casual" but it's pretty clear what's on offer here.
I mean, a game selling well doesn't mean it's necessarily "high quality," or that critiques of it don't matter. This is only a good rebuttal to the few people who said it would bomb.
With that said, my policy with pretty much anything is to enjoy what I enjoy and ignore the haters.
@Einherjar
"You can't like this game, if you do you're a blind fanboy"
Nice to see you aren't biased. Ignored.
@Anri02 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EZNyrmuLRSQ
That said, I suppose it depends on how you define mainline game. My definition is that anything that isn't called a spinoff is mainline.
I think the big prpblem with this game was how it was announced.
E3 2017 - Core RPG title coming to Switch in the future
Then randomly at 4am my time, with no prior announcement, here's your first look at Let's Go.
It was live tweeted from a Japan only event. It didn't come out for some time that the game they intially announced was 2019.
By just dropping the news in the most backwards way imaginable and running what was initially counter to their comments at E3 just confused and frustrated people.
I just bought the game for €35 at Amazon.de, which is a bargain.
Can't play it yet, but I'm sure I won't be dissapointed.
DO listen to the haters but also listen to the people that love it then make up your own mind about the game
@Alex0714 Not necessarily. Some people complain because it is the 2nd remake of the Kanto region (FiredRed LeafGreen). I don't care about the game mechanics, I just don't want to pay 80 Canadian dollars for a remake of a game I played to death time and time again.
@NewAdvent
Tbh I would have agreed with you before playing, but I actually prefer catching to wild battles. Wild battles were never difficult unless you were fighting a legendary, but you still have to fight legendary Pokemon before capturing them in Let's Go. Having Pokemon out in the world really makes Kanto feel more alive than ever before. There's three things they need to fix in 2019's game, though.
1.) Bring back abilities and held items, and let us breed Pokemon again.
2.) Make the motion controls optional, let us play with whatever controller we want. Also make the catching mechanic more skill-based and accurate.
3.) Improve the enemy A.I and have them scale a little with your level, and give them more Pokemon. Seriously, I had a full party by the time I hit Viridian City and most trainers I fought would have one or two Pokemon in their team until the 4th badge. Oh, and maybe give us a difficulty slider so everyone's happy with the amount of challenge they're willing to take on.
Other than that, I truly believe Let's Go is a breath of fresh air for the series and I hope they build and improve on its foundation.
They should of waited till after the main game was first instead of releasing the spin off as the first outing on the switch thus setting the precedent for the series going forward as a whole, instead the fear of the core game getting altered to suit the casual needs of newbies becomes real.
@smithpa01
It's hard to listen to haters when haters will hate on a game they haven't played.
Joe Merrick fun fact of the day: He is related to the Elephant man who also went by the name Joseph Merrick
Just as long as they're not lumping legit complaints with random hate comments.
@Octane Difference is, I can (sometimes) find those McNuggets on a Dollar Menu. This game has premiums out the wazoo.
My friend got Pokémon Let's Go two days ago, he caught 4 shinies already... The time it takes to read this soapbox is about the time it takes to catch another shiny.
Don't even get me started on the postgame challenge. A lot of negativity is justified. I'm not hating, but I'm not sold either.
@Kalmaro I guess if that is the way you want to take it. They've said the more traditional game is coming 2019, and have made it clear since the reveal that Let's GO was going to be different.
Edit: Now that I think about it, what is a "mainline Pokemon" title anyway? They're referring to the traditional games as "core" so what does that mean for "mainline?"
The game is fine. Addictive as ever. Internet whiners are passé.
If someone has bought the game and doesn’t like it that’s one thing and fair enough in my eyes but people saying it’s garbage who haven’t even played it based on its graphics or preconceived gameplay have zero merit. Remember when people were calling Zelda wind waker garbage simply down to having cell shaded graphics. People can be over the top. Don’t like the look of it then don’t buy it. Personally I’ve never played Pokemon as it doesn’t appeal to me but hope it does great as that means more systems sold and more support going forward. Win win
@goggles789 Don't feel bad, the people who purchased the game are enjoying it, like myself.
I’m loving mine I don’t care what people are saying the internet is a toilet bowl of people who can’t form logical thought. Thanks for this article. I’m currently on a 273 chain trying to get my shiny growlithe and absolutely refuse to let anyone touch my switch or turn it off while I’m busy adulting ahaha oh adulting, you silly silly thing
It can be fun to hate things, but i don't get why folks get so aggressive. I was among those disappointed that the new pokemon game this year was a thing I'm not interested in but...that's it. Disappointed subsided. Besides Nintendo already said they're making a traditional pokemon installment anyway. Making Pokemon Ranger and Pokemon Dash didn't ruin the franchise....
@Benexcelsior Oh, I didnt know that was one of the reasons for the hate.
@Einherjar Indeed. Sales do not equal a quality game.
@Devlind Not having access to all pokemon? Is there some pokemon in first gen you cant get? I thought you can get all 150 pokemon in the game. And I didnt know about the item thing, I've been playing the game and forgot about that but now I know.
Good article. I am getting this (the Game and Pokeball Plus bundle, version Pikachu) for Hanunkah next month. I never played Pokemon Go, so Let's Go will help me make up for missing out on playing Pokemon Go.
@BMO_Advanced
I'm sorry, but a 1/8000+ chance to catch a shiny is why I never bothered hunting them. It could take you DAYS of gameplay to catch one shiny before, and I play too many other games to dedicate that much time to a different colored skin. 1/312 is enough to still make it take a little time, but not enough to completely turn me off from trying. I'm so glad Let's Go dialed down the RNG. RNG only tests your patience, not your skill.
@pizzanuggs I think both sides get loud. It's considered 'aggressive' when it's negative though.
Personally too much praise annoys me. For example, I was sick of hearing about Breath of the Wild before it even came out and things only got worse when it came out.
Absolutely loving the game. 17 and a half hours in now, so much nostalgia, so much fun. Haters gonna hate.
It’s already been brought up but Joe’s a total con - pirating the games and blowing off real leaks are just part of the fun.
That being said it’s also pitiful how you blow off people who dislike the game as “haters” - there’s a lot to dislike. The graphics are incredibly disappointing for 2018 standards and the game can’t even hold a decent frame rate. The post game is a joke and doesn’t even have the freaking battle tower that’s been in every game in some form or fashion since Crystal. There’s no real new areas added to Kanto other than Go Park, the enemy trainer’s teams are small and pathetic, the battle system has been way tuned down, online play with randoms is all but gone - what is there to love?
I poured hundreds and hundreds of hours across the DS games but I only put maybe 70-80 in XY and the bare minimum to finish the SM Pokédex. Didn’t even buy USUM. It’d be one thing if Let’s Go was a one-off exception to the norm but the series has gone downhill since XY. I hate seeing one of my favorite series go downhill like this but I’m not going to waste money supporting what it’s become.
Whatever. My three friends that have gotten it and I have all enjoyed it thus far. I don’t get Pokémon games for difficulty, none of them are difficult unless you do a nuzlocke or something, and I prefer these catching mechanics. No abilities and hold items didn’t bother me in gen 1 so I’m not too bothered, and sure I would like a few more Pokémon to pick from but it’s still a fair sized dex, most regional dexes weren’t much larger and things outside it weren’t available to you beat the game (or through trade). It’s my only complaint but I’m not too upset by it, I’d give this game a solid 7.5/10.
And heck, I’ve actully almost party wiped twice now as I’m avoiding catching too much (limiting my exp) and just filling my team with Pokémon I like instead of making a balanced team (meaning sometimes I face something I have nothing good against). The more releasing nature allows me to just goof around instead of taking the game super seriously. Great way to de-stress!
Team building, Ev Training, skillset combos, IV breeding are all chores, go thru it and be rewarded with a pokemon only You will own. Just like how you build your decks from your favourite trading cards game. Spend time, think, strategize and finally having fun experimenting with your builds.
But of course casuals wouldnt grind their brains...all they need is a simple mindless screen swiping ball throwing game...like flappy bird...mindless, simple reflexes game...simple games like fruit ninja just slice fruits by swiping the screen.or cut a rope with it and it goes on......
I don't think the game is for me, but it's nice to see so many people enjoying themselves
@ShadJV
Exactly, you really have to make your own challenge in Pokemon games. Pokemon is one of my all-time favorite series and favorite JRPG series for sure, but if I'm looking for difficult games in the genre I go elsewhere. Pokemon to me is all about going on a journey through a colorful and happy world with my own customized team, that's what keeps me coming back. You can ride on a freaking Haunter in this game! 10/10 10/10 best game best game
The neagativity IS justified because its their opinions. People are annoyed about the catching mechanic, and the forced motion controls. Are you telling them they can’t voice their dissatisfaction? Reviews in particular allow consumers to have a voice, so shame on Amazon trying to silence them.
For once I’d like to read an article here that isn’t throat gurgling/white knighting Nintendo/Game Freak’s decisions.
Pokemon has always been accessible. This is Nintendo/Game Freak regressing to the Wii day’s where their core franchises were decided to need more hand holding to appease the Wii Sports crowd.
It’s boring. But good for you being able to gleefully ignore the game’s faults because of nostalgia. Not everyone is so loose with their wallets.
The fact that the numbers are so low is proof that the millions of Pokemon Go fans don’t really care about the game, nor do the millions of current core Pokemon fans. But nice trying to spin that one “thank you very much.” Trying to point to Switch’s small install base and the 200k growth without numbers showing how many people bought other Nintendo devices when a Pokemon title released causes problems to your “theory.”
@Evilworm
Lmao, if you didn't think grinding was mindless in past games I don't know what to tell you dude. I would literally watch Netflix or whatever was on TV back in the day while I moved up and down on a screen without looking waiting for an egg to catch and hoping RNG was in my favor, or just one shot a bunch of wild pokes to get my numbers high.
Pokemon isn't rocket science. It isn't meant to be.
@ShadJV This is pretty much my experience, too. I'm loving just being carefree half the time deciding to chain catches or give in to the distraction of chasing something new.
The plain existence of this game is hurting no one. Trozei, Shuffle, Picross, Ranger, etc... none of those affected 'hardcore yet still kid game' Pokemon games.
We're catching, training, and battling fake creatures on our quest to be the best, folks. It can't get much less serious or sky-fall inducing.
You can dislike the game, but what ends up being disingenuous from haters, because now the story is "sales don't matter, people buy crap all the time."
But as soon as Switch numbers slow down, the comments are "see, look at the sales slowing…Switch is in trouble." or "LOL, Nintendo won't release the Online subscriber numbers because they're terrible."
So when it's something that sells well but they dislike...the sales don't matter. When sales reflect their agenda however, they are the first to point to them.
@Evilworm You can still do those things, you know.
@darkswabber Did you actually mean this?
Joe uses Facts and Logic!
IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!
@Frenean
If you grind pokemon just by moving around battling randoms creature you encounter...you will end up with a subpar lvl 99 pokemon. I can do that too...have zigzagoons pickup a ton of rare candies and pump its level all the way. But sadly thats a lvl 99 pokemon i could easily trash in online battle.
Know that the mainline series has a deep hidden pokemon raising mechanics...which were Removed 100% in this pikachu lets go........
@Frenean Excuse me, what?
Please, go ahead and show me where i supposedly said or implied that.
@Mallow Yeah I’m quite disappointed by the way some people abuse the amazing space on the internet. Metacritic and IMDB are just full of trolls who have no concept of how to make any kind of half-decent criticism. Seriously how many games or movie really deserve a 1 or 0? Very few I can think of. How can a game get a zero anyway? Wouldn’t a zero constitute that the game itself doesn’t exist? I mean even Big Rigs should get a 1 or 2 because the game itself is present even if it is terrible (but that may just be my way of looking at it).
Thing is I love honest and even unpopular criticism of media, but people have taken a platform where people can share their opinions and defecated all over it. Kinda sad really...
@pizzanuggs Because people have this complex about having to appear "smarter" than everyone else (or failing that, appear the most aggro), and it just descends into self-satisfied smug sniping that accomplishes less than nothing.
I consider myself to be a hardcore Pokémon player, I breeze through the main campaign quickly and dive right into shiny hunting, breeding for stats, and the competitive metagame. And I am loving Let's Go quite a bit. I'm taking my time and just enjoying it for what it is. I know that my traditional game is coming and am approaching this as the super chill experience that it is. With all that's out at the moment, this is exactly what I need.
This is the first 'mainline' (not really sure it is) Pokemon game I've played because I was waiting for the series to finally hit home consoles and with Switch this is as close as it'll ever get. The game is definitely on the easy side but I'm really enjoying it, enough so that I'm going to buy the next big game in the series whenever it's out. Hopefully there will be some changes though. The main one for me being Pro Controller support. I don't mind the motion controls but would much prefer to have a regular controller.
The games look decent. The gimmick mechanics are not very good in my opinion but it is the developers choice.
BUT let's face it … every software with the Pokémon name on it will sell decent no matter what.
@NotTelevision And how many movies deserve a 10?
Fanboys flood reviews with 10a all the time.
It's fine to love it but it's also fine to hate it if you prefer the old formula. We don't have to be all the same.
@HobbitGamer @Frenean glad to find others enjoying this outside of my friend circle!
This isn’t a bad game; I do nuzlockes now and then for difficulty (and have seen proposed ways to nuzlocke this game already and they’re harder due to no ability to grind on wild Pokémon, can’t catch more after all), but I don’t need to be challenged 100% of the time. This is enjoyable without a real challenge. It’s fun dressing up Eevee and seeing it’s reactions, I can throw whatever I want into my team and not worry that in most cases it’s not a “good Pokémon”, and I don’t have to usually worry about screwing up battles. I don’t have to think and sometimes something mindless and upbeat is a good time. One can enjoy both types of games. Pokémon isn’t Dark Souls anyways, it’s a relatively easy series, this is just more towards the easy side. And honestly it’s not like the recent gens weren’t completely cheesed by the newer exp all mechanics, being naturally overleveled has happened for several games now.
Just because it’s not the type of game someone enjoys doesn’t make it a bad game. We’re getting a more serious entry next year!
Do people know that buying these games is completely optional? That there are more traditional sequels coming possibly as soon as next year? That not every game is for everyone? It’s okay for a company to make something you don’t want.
I can understand not liking the look of these games, not being interested in them and not buying them. What I can’t understand is why some people are so angry and upset about their very existence. If you don’t like the look, idea or price of them just don’t buy them. Don’t have a review bomb hissy fit or shout at everyone who does like them. Generation 8 is on the way, forget about Let’s Go and focus on looking forward to them.
@Anri02 That's a good question. Some people see them as interchangeable (me) and others take it another way. I'd say that every mainline game are ones that can trade amongst themselves in some way and only come out every other year or so. Like red /blue/yellow, gold/silver, and the like.
@Frenean
Yeah, right. It's not like there are online gameplays or Let's Plays on youtube which show the boredom and the simplicity of this game, oh wait...
if not for the forced motion gimmicks, I would tend to recommend the game.
Though $60 is pretty steep, considering $40 would give significantly more content in the 3DS games
I think people are used to thinking that some stuff belongs to them. It's "my favourite franchise", "my favourite game", "my favourite mechanics". I get that and even support it up to a point.
I am not as good a competitive player as I'd like to be, but I think Pokemon belongs to me just the same. I've been playing the thing since 1998, I am really happy to see Pokemon Yellow in gorgeous graphics, music and with new mechanics.
At the end, people are probably upset they are going to relearn in order to keep on top of the game, because new people will come, understand the game and kick their asses.
Never play Pokemon before because it always just seemed like animal fighting for kids.
But I've bought this one just to try to understand the appeal. I've played a couple of hours and basically enjoyed it until my first battle. As I suspected I was semi-horrified that, yes, this is basically cute creatures attacking and 'hurting' each other until one 'faints'. Yes I know it's just a video game and I'm not trying to soap box - and I'll probably be fine with it but I'm not going to pretend it's not the f****d up idea I suspected it was all those years ago. I hate animal hunting/fishing games (Monsters is cool though) and this is a 'wiff' in that direction. Don't get me wrong I'm into explicitly violent games like Doom etc... It just games like Pokemon hide behind the cutesy but I think are subtlety waaaaaay more f****d up than say, GTA.
I suspect this may be the Big Mac of video games - very tasty and habit forming but ultimately utter s**h and with no genuine substance. Anyway I'm giving it a go, despite Pokemon being the least appealing Nintendo property to me so far. Wish me luck.
I think we've got to the point where you have people actively attacking games and/or their playbase based on concept.
The morning the game came out if you went to metacritic you'd see same mini-rant rhetoric we've seen up to release just with a 0/10 next to it like they were legitimately waiting for user reviews to open just to hit it with a low score. I think some people need to learn you can have a problem with a game without being insincere and pretending that a perfectly functional game is some sort of unplayable abomination. Or without claiming that the company making it is setting the series on a path towards destruction for making a couple games that don't appeal to them.
Haters can hate all they want. I don’t play this game for hours at a time. I play it mainly after my long day is ending and I’m getting ready to fall asleep.
In this blissful moment between adult life and dreamland, I get to relive a childhood of playing Pokémon red/yellow, pure and simple. Nostalgia at its finest.
Surprised myself by picking this up day 1, always saw it as an xmas game to be honest, and I'm certainly enjoying it. I'm 30 so Blue/Red/Yellow were huge back then, the nostalgia is strong with this one. It's undoubtedly pretty as well!
However I just see this as a HD remaster with GO mechanics and as far as remasters go it's pretty basic. The battle animations are quite poor really and a lot of the modern trimmings you'd get with Pokèmon games nowadays are not present.
I know it's not a mainline game and at 30 I'm not the 'target' audience but I also picked up the Spyro remaster at the same time and when comparing the two as remasters Let's Go is kind of underwhelming. However... It's still Pokèmon and I like Pokèmon so I'm not unhappy right now 👍
@Alex0714 If people are enjoying it, that's great.
yeah, I can't play this game. It ain't HaRdCoRe enough for me!
And sooo easy, I'm so cool!
Seriously, fans of games need to calm down a bit. You will get another Pokemon next year, so stop whining about others enjoy. And stop thinking you're so hardcore. And stop categorize this a baby game and whine like babies couse this ain't HaRdCoRe enough for you.
When was ever a Pokemon game hard? Every Pokemon game is easy, just lots of annoying grinding.
Well, I love the change of choosing when to fight a pokemon. Hope this will be the case in the HaRdCoRe 2019 game as well.
I think the games deserves a bit off hate. The graphic/user interface is poor for a full price game. That user interface, is so out dated and bad. I cannot even use touch to save.
For me, this is my first pokemon console game. I was very disappointed in the first 4 hours game play. But since that point, I am enjoying the game. I believe it will be a game that I play 15min to 60min before bed or couple hours on a rainy day. Should last me along time.
Still it probably be my first/last pokemon console game. It just does not have that special feeling to invest time into the series outside pokemon go.
@Syrek24 The game wasn’t meant for us? Do you think Nintendo and GF are going to tell us not to buy it because it’s too easy and meant for the Go players only? That’s a big investment for people content with their mobile devices and quick sesssions of Go.
It doesn’t matter what Nintendo says about the game’s intentions. That does not absolve it from criticism.
If you don’t like it, then ignore it. But when there is an article written, challenging such criticism without addressing it by minimizing it as whining then be sure you’ll see some push back.
The amount of tribalism here directed at those evil evil Nintendo haters is plain SAD.
And if my “negativity” ruins your enjoyment of the game, then perhaps you don’t like it as much as you think you do.
@Mallow You know, many people believe that Final Fantasy 8 sucks and that it only sold well because it followed Final Fantasy 7 and because of it's brand, not because it was a good game. Do you care? I don't.
As consumers, it's really kind of silly for us to care about the sales numbers. Why not judge a game by it's gameplay instead of it's sales numbers? Why not discuss the gameplay instead of the sales numbers. If your best defense against the haters is sales numbers then you've lost.
@ReaderRagfish,
The hate came from the forum posting internet/YouTube minority,so nobody has changed their minds,the people who are buying these games were never haters in the first place.
Welp, that saint of a friend I have just Secret Santa'd the games to me and my lovely better half so I guess my vow to not get the game until it's on a sale hasn't technically been broken. Not it will ever be, as a consequence.
I have to say, though, if these games are going to help the Switch sell even more, then feel free to "let's go" away, Game Freak. "Let's go" away. It's the first home console to get a GF Pokémon game thanks to the "it's a hybrid" loophole, so I'm confident we won't see any of that lack of third party support nonsense that plagued the N64, GameCube and Wii, and outright killed the Wii U.
@Octane Not eating Mc Donalds because it might be bad for you is like not dating because you might get married, divorced and lose half of your stuff Lolol. All jokes aside, I know Mc Donalds is unhealthy, but damn is it good.
I mean if popularity equalled greatness I guess we should all just stop complaining about Brexit and Trump...
@brunojenso Humans beating on each other in video games is more acceptable though?
@Octane @MattFox Those cold fries, though. Blegh
@brunojenso Into 'explicitly violent' games, but horrified by Pokemon battles and hunting/fishing games.
You know humans typically eat animals and not other humans, right?
@Crono1973 Yes I think so - after all humans seem well up for attacking each other, whereas most animals just have to.
Anyway I'm totally aware I don't have any valid point - I was just trying to explain why Pokemon alway seemed 'off' to me to see if anyone else felt it.
@HobbitGamer 'Into 'explicitly violent' games, but horrified by Pokemon battles and hunting/fishing games.' Yes silly I know. I just don't like animals getting dragged into our bulls**t.
'You know humans typically eat animals and not other humans, right?' Sorry I don't understand your point here?
@brunojenso The joke was we hunt and fish then eat the animals. We don't carjack someone GTA-style and then eat the occupant
It was a silly quip, nothing more.
@HobbitGamer Ahh gotcha – fair point
Internet trolls are some of the most ignorant people around. They make up fiction and sell it as fact. Of course these games haven't sold as much as previous games, strictly because of the hardware install base is smaller. But Switch is growing at a very fast pace with hit after hit. And it's just a matter of time before its install base rivals that of previous Nintendo successes. Also the vast majority of the haters haven't even played the game. It's like some idiot brat who thinks carrots are disgusting even though they've never, ever tried them. The internet has brought people together but it's probably been the single WORST thing to happen to Human Intelligence, Compassion, and Social Graces ever! To the haters, go cry solo in a dark corner and leave the rest of us alone. More fun for us!
@brunojenso Before I started playing Pokemon years ago I thought like you as well but after playing it i realized it's really no different than a Final Fantasy game. Animals beating on each other, humans beating on animals, animals beating on humans and humans beating on each other.
It's just a game and Pokemon hasn't made me an animal abuser. In the wild, animals can be pretty brutal to each other.
@HobbitGamer True. I usually buy just the burger to eat it at home. Usually the Big Tasty.
I never hated this game. Though, I did have my doubts. I'm not complaining, but I mean, I guess I can understand how some would feel about it. The mainline Pokemon games are still easy and simple. And they follow the same formula for the most part game, after game, after game. And, I still find enjoyment out of it.
It reminds me of the Dynasty Warriors games. I love them even though people are quick to call it just rehash and the complaints for DW9 were understandable when they strayed too far from the formula that worked for fans.
I'm obviously looking forward to generation 8 more than this. But, I won't completely write these games off. I'm not a very competitive player and I casually play the main games for the most part. (With the exception of some EV training)
I hope this new audience gets onboard with the next generation. Pokémon Switch is gonna be amazing, I'm sure.
Attach rate also goes down the better a console sells.
Remember BOTW with an over 100% attach rate?
I totally do understand why people are peeved, getting a new Kanto remake would have been cool so it's sad to see all that gone to waste with the mass appeal to casuals. It's whatever, clearly the game is not aimed at me so I'm not gonna complain too much more than that.
As long as they still keep making the main series games in the usual style then I'm good.
@Crono1973 Sure, and I'm not suggesting playing these games will desensitise an emotionally intact person.
Video gamers are often a wonderfully paradoxical bunch that love to destroy everyone in their path on a game - but wouldn't hurt a fly in real life - and that makes me happy to be a part of gamers.
I'm not an angry vegetarian or vegan either btw – but that doesn't mean I love the way we generally view/use animals either. I appreciate you saying you had that concern too though - it makes me feel better about 'outing my concern' on a forum. Cheers buddy.
I love the game. A little easy, but still enjoy it
@Kalmaro u have real battles everywhere like in yellow.u battle through each gym for a badge like in yellow not going to go on.but yea sure not a mainline game lol on that note I'm sure gen 2 will be remade so lets call it a mainline game for the lets go series with will come out after the new gen.
@Slim1999 I'm fine with that.
I can only speak anecdotally but I’m a long lapsed Pokemon player who bought it really out of curiosity and I’m really enjoying it.
Further, my 4-year-old who’s getting interested in games is really enjoying it. So that’s two segments of the target audience.
Bigger picture, the game is selling well and from what we know so far has spiked Switch sales. Result.
Nice read, especially with the table. So many variables to think about and digital sales number being only known to Nintendo (who rarely release them) makes it that much harder.
In case there's still doubt if Nintendo and TPC count this as a main line game they have it listed with all the other past main line game on the official Japanese page.
https://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/title/series/
@goggles789,
Don't feel sorry for people who like the game fella,just realize that the Switch's demographic is far wider than the core audience.
The article is spot on BTW.
“the sheer volume of negative noise about the game has made people start to believe that it was always going to fail.”
And we can already see it hasn’t. The sales figures are the point-those convinced it would fail because it isn’t what they wanted are wrong.
I have no interest in this game but Im also not a hater. Makes sense for them to put this out and we’ll be getting a “core” game next year. Win win.
@Octane,
I think you need to eat some more of your sour grapes and crow pie.
@Syrek24 "The game was obviously not meant for me. Oh well, I guess I’ll just be waiting for the 2019 game instead."
That's how easy it is. That's all people need to do or say. Paragraphs of crying and whining from grown men over a children's game? It's not a good look. I'm not even into Pokemon but I'm wowed by how much people freak out over it. As I said before Joe Public is oblivious to this drama that's being played out in these comment sections, it's a storm in a teacup.
@electrolite77,
But as we know all the negative noise was from the minorities who see to think they are the majority.
Its quite interesting how humans work. If you love a game, youre White-knighting it. If you critizise a game, youre a hater. If you say something the left doesnt like, youre in the far right. If you say something the right doesnt like, youre in the far left. Ive been watching Youtube videos and ive been seeing Eevee melt down elite four without making a sweat and then there is how to get Mew. I am not sold. But i am by no means a hater of pokemon itself. Okay fine, i hate some parts of pokemon games, such as the freaking dialoge that happens every 5 steps i take in ultra sun/moon which i hope wont happen in gen 8.. but there are also alot of things i love with ultra sun/moon. I even like the endless battles for shiny and finding the right nature for pokemon, while others might find this boring. I myself dont find melting down elite 4 with a pokemon who is basically just 3-4 levels higher, but i guess others do. I hope that the next gen brings pokemonscaling for once, once you hit level 90, it gets too easy.. Again, i am not sold yet to Lets Go. I have to read carefully about the end-game. I dont want to hit an end like Red and Blue with nothing to do.
Everything I'm seeing and reading suggests that these Let's Go games are basically Pokemon without the tedious BS that people mistake for "hardcore" features. Sounds good to me.
@Frenean I'm fine with making Shiny hunting less time consuming, but in return they should've made the practise more skill based, they didn't do that however, the skill department also got dialed back. I simply don't want them to be this easy to pick up, there's little sense of accomplishment here in my experience.
If all you need is an "audience" - Monster Hunter World is the best "version" ever made 😏
Oh and Call Of Duty has been vindicated.
http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2018/11/october_2018_npd_call_of_duty_red_dead_propel_ps4_to_record_month
Every console has Games that sell regardless
Good soapbox piece here. The people who are spewing toxicity over this game need to move on. We get it, it's not for you, play something that is. Mario Party isn't for me, but I skip those games and instead play the mainline Mario platformers, Kart and the Mario and Luigi RPG games. I don't feel the need to jump on the internet and whine about how MP isn't for me and how Nintendo betrayed the fan base or some petty nonsense like that.
@LUIGITORNADO
10/10 movies... For me it would be The Godfather, Star Wars (in 1977), Empire Strikes Back. Maybe Blade Runner, The Princess Bride, Shawshank Redemption. I wouldn't argue too much against Infinity War either.
They might not be a 10 for everyone but they're obviously closer to a 10 than a 0; so I think the 0 bombers are worse than the 10 overhypers.
My eevee drinks salty tears.
I am a hardcore pokemon player since 1999 (Original Yellow) and I LOVED this game! It is awesome! Gamefreak, please keep doing the Let's Go games beyond silver/gold ruby/saphire Pearl/Diamond.... I would play them all! I am also really hyped for the next gen entry on the Switch!!!
Well, it’s good that it’s selling well.
I really enjoy the new mechanics, i hope they are carried over to gen 8.
Personally this game isn’t for me, but I’m happy it’s doing well and definitely wouldn’t go review bomb it or anything. It’s ironic that the people screaming “this game is for kids!” are being so childish.
@Dang69 cave is a nice exemple, i was dissapointed at the very begining when i wanted to check my nemesis room in his house and discovered it doesn't have the stairs.
@realpokemonfan68 Wow, you are really bothered by this mainstream or spin off stuff. I think it feels like a mainstream title to me with some changes but I've never dug deep into the mechanics of a Pokemon game. I just collect Pokemon and grind until I get tired of it. I don't do the power leveling thing.
I don't like pokemon games at all besides the fighting one. Sales prove me wrong though.
Also, some people like Fallout 76. And that's fine, things you like don't have to be popular.
That doesn't mean there aren't a lot of people who don't like it or that there aren't legitimate reasons for it.
@RedMageLanakyn yeah they are basically not people anymore they are "haters".
I've realized it's a little bit weird to use attach rate to rate how popular a Pokemon game is, because, usually, games released early in the system's lifespan will have an easier time due to smaller competition.
Let's look at first Pokemon games on each of these systems:
Nintendo DS launch: December 2. 2004, Pokemon DP released: September 28. 2006 - 22 months gap
Nintendo 3DS launch: February 26. 2011, Pokemon XY released: October 12. 2013 - 31 months gap
Nintendo Switch launch: March 3. 2017, Pokemon LGPE released: November 16. 2018 - 20 months gap
Let's Go has the lowest attach rate out of these three, despite being released relatively the fastest. Even though the price probably must have played some role, I'd say it's a clear sign that it didn't manage to reach as big of an audience as the earlier releases under similar conditions.
I’ve never played a Pokémon game before. I was in Japan when it took off and saw all the craziness, but was a little old for the original game. I bought Let’s Go Eevee to enjoy with my kids. It’s not bad. Definitely very easy and repetitive, but the presentation is cool. I’m enjoying it for what it is, and might check out the 2019 game.
And there are no gyms in sun and moon, guess that makes them spin off games too, huh? See, they are spin off games according to The know it all haters
I’m not a Pokemon fan but I’m still enjoying this game. Got it day 1 for my son but now the whole family want to play it. My kids are really happy with the game and the co op stops them fighting.
@goggles789 Agreed
Why is Nintendolife so obsessed with white-knighting this game? This isn't the first article about it.
Some people don't like the game. Get over it.
The only haters i 've ever listened to are the Fallout 76 haters. They were right
As someone who was never a fan and struggled to get into Pokemon, this has been the Pokemon game of my dreams.
Its fantastic fun, there actually is battling (a ton of it, nearly half my time is spent battling and half spent catching) and the catching is really fun. I like catching Pokemon more than battling tbh.
I'm surprised how good this game is. I also have an Xbox diehard coworker who got a Switch when people were gaga for Splatoon 2, but he only plays like 3 times a year. Saw he's been playing Pokemon non stop since it released. He was huge into Pokemon GO. So it seems the game has brought him to the table. And all I've seen online from people who actually played the game is "man I was skeptical but, as it turns out this game is really good!". Some people will be stubborn and simply refuse to admit they jumped the gun. Most, however, will jump in thanks to all the positive word of mouth.
I truly hope they retain the catching mechanics for future mainline games. Not just saying that to spite the fanatics either. I actually DO love them and think the main series NEEDS this change going forward.
Lol since when ppl can do review a product without buying it.These online ratings should only allow ppl do review after bought just like online shopping.
The addtion of the pokeballs puts a new twist on the game. I've lost plenty trying to figure it's mechanics. That's where I get frustrated the most.
I love PLGPE and I don't let the haters get to me. I love this wonderful game and I am glad a lot of new fans are getting into Pokemon.
@Serebii Always nice to see you pop up here! I was an avid Serebii follower far before joining this little community.
""Don't Listen To The Pokémon: Let’s Go Haters.""
That should be the rule in everything, simply because: 1-the haters only seek to annoy (whatever the reason may be), and 2-seek to boycott only because they want (be the reason that is also).
One thing is constructive criticism, separate good points as not good points and another thing is simply to show hatred and contempt; and obviously, the first thing is the most correct to show something we do not want, but, oh well, this is every day on the internet, for more logical points we want to give, it is difficult to reduce or eliminate the hate (useless hatred...)
@BLD A lot of people do like it..that is the point. It isn't as if it is a bad game (objectively speaking) and they are defending it. It is as good game that is dealing with some vocal subjective backlash that isn't fair for those that might be curious about the game on its own merits. Nothing wrong with not wanting or liking the game...the issue is when people throw tantrums and try to be a loud as possible to prevent others who might like it from doing so in peace or with unbiased research (nobody can use the customer reviews on amazon or metacritic due to review bombing. That helps no one).
back in ye olden days we had a mantra, dont like it , dont buy it.
ah the simpler times
I bought Let's Go Pikachu for myself and Eve for my daughters. As someone familiar with the anime cartoon series but not so much the games it's been a good entry point for me. I've played several hours of Omega Ruby but that's about the extent of my past experience aside from Pokemon Go. I plan to go in when the new game releases on Switch in 2019 (or 2020). I really like a few mechanics like no random wild Pokemon encounters, and wouldn't mind if the option was available for Pokeball tosses similar to Let's Go but having a traditional method as well.
@brunojenso I mean, clearly some people agree with you as PETA has made a couple parody games attacking the Pokémon series.
You might like Pokémon Black and White though, the fifth generation of the series. Its story addresses this idea - that maybe Pokémon training isn’t morally okay? The “villains” are trying to stop Pokémon training because it’s not fair for trainers to pit these creatures against each other for their own goals. It’s probably one of the best Pokémon games in terms of story because it addresses some realistic concerns with the whole concept of battling, unlike other entries’ stories which are like, “This evil group wants to harness the power of a god to rewrite the universe into their own ideal.”
Haters gonna hate, there’s no way around that. It could be the best Pokémon game ever and it wouldn’t matter.
I haven’t bought the game yet but plan on doing it because I’ve heard nothing but good things from the people I know who have bought it. And some of them are old fans who have been playing Pokémon games since the Game Boy so their opinion is much more worth than those haters who probably haven’t even tried the game and just bash it because it wasn’t made exactly how they wanted... Talk about entitlement... /facepalm/
To those haters out there: just remember that not everything needs to be done how you want and not everything will be for you and you alone.
Now, I’m exactly the kind of target that Nintendo was aiming at with these games. I’m an old gamer playing since the NES days but I never got into Pokémon before. But now I’m very interested and this will be my first Pokémon ever, and listening to my friends it looks that I’m going to have a wonderful time with it. I can’t wait!
I had no idea people were down on Let’s Go. ...I’ve watch a number of YT Reviews and everyone’s surprised at how great it is. ...They thought it’d be watered-down, but it only seems to trim the stuff you’d want removed anyways.
@ShadJV Interesting - I could check Black and White out. Anyway I've heard this (Let's Go) is a good entry point and I'm going to be as open-minded as I can and give it a proper go.
If these games aren't for me at all I'll know that from my own experience, and based on that I should know if I'm up for the 2019 title.
I've gone for Pikachu. I just can't work with the extra layer of cute that is Eevee and her stupid neck-ruff. She looks like a cross between a Chiwawa and a Chinchilla spliced with a Mogwai. That's too much for me, but I can just about work with Pikachu. If nothing else his forked tail is cool. Sometimes I may need to turn the sound off though – cute little bugger needs to be seen and not heard sometimes.
the amount of strawmanning and gatekeeping in this comment section is hilarious also the people reeeing who can't handle some one not liking the game is also funny.
Take the game for what it is and move on, it trims massive amounts of fat that wasn't needed for this type of game though I doubt people are going to buy switches for this game alone and with the 2019 game looming on the horizon I would not worry ,Smash is the game for the end of the year not this one.
I still haven’t played it :/
@michellelynn0976 Holy acronyms Batman (or should I say HaB)?
Game is a diamond don't listen to haters. I am not fun of Pokemon but the game has a so nice atmosphere that actually make you to discover every secret of it
Yeah I don't care what anybody says, Pokémon Let's Go is NOT a main series game. It's a side-game that just so happens to play like a main game in terms of battling, but it's also just too different for me to consider it a main Pokémon game.
That said, that's not a bad thing at all. After all, people also enjoy games like Hyrule Warriors, or Pokémon Snap, or Mario Kart, despite those not being main Zelda, Pokémon or Mario games. Side-games are not a bad thing whatsoever.
I'm also quite enjoying my trip back to Kanto either way, and I really don't understand why people feel the need to review-bomb this game. I'm not 100% satisfied with the game either; for one, I really don't like the catching mechanic in this game, Mega evolutions are still in there, and Mew is hidden behind a stupid (yet still pretty nifty) paywall (though I'm sure the Poké Ball Plus is just 'early access' to Mew and the Pokémon will be made available through Mystery Gift eventually), but it's really not nearly as bad as all those ''reviewers'' make it out to be.
First world problems are fun.
I can only speak for myself: I haven't had this much fun since HeartGold with the Pokéwalker, thanks to the great graphics, the fact that I can finally play a normal Pokémon game on TV - and the awesome Pokeball controller!
First of all, being able to control a whole game with only two buttons? How old-school and cool is that?!
And second, I feel like I'm really in the game with it! I throw it, it rumbles, I can hear the little critter's cry inside of it, it lights up in many colors, and I can take a 'mon with me on a stroll IRL.
I took one yesterday, just out of curiosity. I was hoping it would level up a bit. And when I put it back into the game today, it levelled up from 4 to 19! Hahaha, it instantly became the strongest member of my group!
I also love the fact that I can take out any Pokémon to walk/fly/levitate by my character's side.
All in all, I was a little sceptical, too, but this game proved to be the most fun for me in a very long time!
Of course, without the Pokeball controller, it would probably be a less rewarding experience - I'm glad that I pre-ordered the two together.
I really think people shouldn't listen to the critics and try it out for themselves.
It isn't a mainline game, but that was made crystal clear when Nintendo revealed it. I'm having a lot of fun with the game. It is a fun experience while I wait for the new mainline games that are coming out next year. Anyone complaining the bought it and the battle mechanics, did you not watch any of the footage or read any article about the game before you bought it. The missing features were already broadcast. You should research what you are buying before you buy it, not after.
@arpaktiko dude, that game is flat out broken. Couldn’t believe they released it like that
@johnvboy Can I have some salt with it as well?
I have played just over 50 hours of this game. Used Pikachu very sparingly, and was constantly shifting my team out in order to complete the dex along with the game. I have to say, as a pokemon player for 20 years, I VERY much enjoyed this game. But...
Those motion controls. Oh holy crap those motion controls suck. I've been leveling up on Chanseys using the two-player stuff, and I have gotten tons of experience with the motion. While I'm slowly getting over my hatred of it, I have to say it was terrible of Gamefreak to leave out the option to just play normally while docked. It's one thing to force a gimmick onto people; it is another thing to do it with a broken gimmick. Unfortunately, it seems any hope of that being fixed is gone: the only negativity I see are the trolls, and the sales are strong. That combined with Gamefreak's, how shall I say, not-too-great track record of listening, and I just have to accept it will never go away. Sigh...
BTW I'm one of the few people (apparently...) who enjoyed motion controls in Skyward Sword, and even those had problems. This game though...
I don't care that it is selling well. I never doubted it would sell well, it's Pokemon after all.
I like the presentation. The art and sound direction is nice.
But the gameplay is too dumbed down, and the restrictions on how you play the game are simply unacceptable. RPGs are always better when the player has more freedom in how it is experienced. It is a defining feature of the genre.
While the Let's Go game (games, but this will surely be successful enough to get sequels) may not impact development of real Pokemon games, it is hard to not look at this and wish that a better spin off game was made with the resources instead.
@brunojenso I’d say LG is a good jumping off point for those who are used to Go - the familiar catching mechanics blended with traditional battles makes it meet halfway. But I wouldn’t use it as a measure if someone will like the core games - the fact that it’s so divisive means some people won’t like it but will love the other games. I’d recommend it for more casual gamers, younger gamers, or people who wants a more relaxed game than the other entries. Don’t get me wrong, I love this game. I just think it’d be a misleading first entry if you’re using it to decide whether to play the core games. After all, GF even said that if this sells well then this will become a separate series. Which I’m all for, I’d love to see gen 2 reimagined like this... but I’d be glad that it’s two separate series. I just hope they keep the lack of random encounters, being able to pick and choose your wild encounters is a huge QoL improvement IMO.
The game has flaws. It does. You aren't required to like it. But the game does a lot of things right too. More than it does wrong. A lot of people can't handle that this game isn't made for them. It's made for entry level gamers and people new to the series. It's made for fans of the anime. It's made for very young children. And when you look at it that way, it does very well.
But even as an adult, you can get enjoyment out of it. I've been playing it every day since launch. Last night I spent 2 hours just catching Pokemon I transfered from Pokemon Go. You just have to relax and remember: The real mainline entry is coming next year.
I’m enjoying the game a lot with my wife.
Not having to fight a Pokémon every 5 meters in a cave makes it a much more pleasent experience.
There are enough fights with trainers that it’s alright to not fight every Pokémon as well.
@Trikeboy
So, if you bought it and have a negative opinion then you should have done your research and not bought it. However, if you did your research and didn't buy it then your negative opinion doesn't count because you haven't played it. Brilliant way to avoid negative criticism.
@ShadJV I’d say LG is a good jumping off point for those who are used to Go
Leaf Green? I don't see why....oh I see, you mean Let's Go. I guess an acronym was needed since Let's Go is so hard to type out.
What concerns me is whether or not these ‘lite’ mechanics will make it into next year’s game. Many seem to assume they won’t when they say “don’t worry, stop moaning, next year’s game is coming.” Have read many examples of that above.
This is being called a mainline game, and many people simply aren’t happy with the direction the mainline series has been taken with this game.
@Crono1973 typing on my phone it’s easier than having to switch to punctuation and back every time I want to type the name.
@Crono1973 It's just a poor argument through and through.
I can name several games i bought after "doing my research", a.e. watching gameplay vids, reading wikis etc. that still managed to disappoint or failed to hook me after playing them myself.
But it seems this game has caused a fanbase trench war. You either have to love it or hate it. Criticism automatically falls under the latter...
And as for your former argument regarding FF8 and sales figures in general:
I could probably write an entire book about why i think FF8 is one of the worst games in its franchise based on how broken and poorly implemented most of its mechanics are.
But brand loyality sure is a thing regarding sales figures. And truth be told, its a good thing. It offers long running franchises to exist even if they put out a dud from time to time.
Which is why sales figures, especially used as an argument to measure a games worth by, is extremely unreliable.
You'll never figure out how many purchases endet up with disappointed customers who bought it for the brand alone and expected something different.
Sucks for them, good for the brand. Maybe next time it will be something more to their liking.
@luke88 It's always the same story. People condemn the slippery slope as a fallacy and then if the slippery slope actually occurs, they conveniently forget that they condemned the slippery slope or they make it out to be no big deal and gamers need to be stop being entitled.
Just got the end credits. Amazing to go back to kanto and its simplicity. Best Pokémon game since gen I and II
@ShadJV The thing about acronyms is that they can refer to more than one thing and make conversations confusing.
@w00dm4n I playing it on docked but going on the move soon. How does it play on handhled, especially how to catch Pokemon? Do I need to swing my Switch or is there button mapping for that?
Look at the hardware numbers for the real underlining impact. Japan sold over 200,000 units because of this game. Pokemon Go brought in 4 times the amount of customers so that shows you the game was appealing. Screw reviews!
@whywai88 like a standard pokemon game.
You can use the touch screen to play with Pikachu.
When you go to catch Pokemon you might have to move the screen left of right to line up the shot. It's almost like Pokemon Go with the AR turned off. I have the pokeball plus but that was to small for my hand.
@johnvboy Thanks bra
@Nintendofan83 Japan sold over 200,000 units because of this game.
No it didn't. From the article:
On the flipside, the game has helped to drive hardware sales, with almost 200,000 Switches being bought in launch week in Japan alone. Granted, that also factored in the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate special edition, which was also on sale that week, but it will definitely have contributed.
@Crono1973
Ok....it's not entirely this game but come on .... Smash helped but the game didn't release along side it. Pokemon go comes out, sells over 600k software and hardware shoots up like crazy. But you're right ....those sales are not because of that game. Go home...you're drunk.
I'd like to see the breakdown between the Smash and Pokemon bundles.
@Nintendofan83 I'd like to see the breakdown between the Smash and Pokemon bundles.
Yes you should and before you make any more bad guesses.
I tend to listen to both sides, though I decided pretty early on that I won't be getting this game. If only because Pokemon in general, just hasn't been doing it for me, outside of Pokken.
Agreed, personally I ‘m not interested in this game, but I understand that this game’s purpose is to bringing both new and nostalgic players in, so I wish this game does great. Also, haters are selfish and stupid.
@big_bad_bob Haters are selfish but wanting to increase your audience (because money) is not selfish. That's just business yeah?
@Crono1973 I didnt say the game was free from criticism. If your complaints are about features not being in the game, you were warned be Nintendo and Gamefreak months before that those features were not in the game and bought the game anyway. You decided when you spent your money that you were fine with the game features. Complaing they are not there after buying the game is on the customer. If your complaints are about other things in the game that were not advertised beforehand then that is a valid complaint.
Valid complaint: "The framerate dips when a lot of wild Pokemon are the screen"
Not a valid complaint because it was clearly advertised beforehand: "There are no wild battles. All you do is throw the ball to catch Pokemon."
If you didn't like that there were no wild battles, you shouldn't have spent your money. All you did was give Gamefreak money and by that told them that you would be happy with more Lets Go style games.
@Trikeboy You didn't actually address what I said so I'll repeat it: So, if you bought it and have a negative opinion then you should have done your research and not bought it. However, if you did your research and didn't buy it then your negative opinion doesn't count because you haven't played it. Brilliant way to avoid negative criticism.
"Dont like it, then dont buy it.." said everyone / and some EA guy too.
I wonder what 2019 pokemon gonna be like?? Assets reused, same copy pasted world with a new skin, paywalled, MTXes, lootboxes, gachas, full of pointless gimmicks, Luck based RNG combat, online only.......... Botw style pkmn?? Lol gamefreak from what i see since sun and moon leading to THIS lets GO BS.....they are far from such feats. Masuda made the right decision, leave the company for good.
$60 - $80 for a game that revolves around shaking a controller to throw a ball. The star/show stopper of the game...wave your hand to throw A BALL!!!!!
@Crono1973 Cos not EVERY game is made for one particular person. And just because a game doesn’t suit his/her taste means that game should bomb is selfish, oh and stupid
@big_bad_bob Are you under the impression that negative reviews are causing this game to fail?
Screw all the cynical naysayers. I am loving the game.
I agree with most of the criticism toward this game as most of it being valid. But I don't think it deserves to be review bombed. Most of the negative reviews of metacritic aren't even actual reviews...
The game isn't terrible, just not good - a disappointment.
The lowest it should receive should be a 6/10 imo.
Also love the attempt of deflecting criticism by mentioning sales numbers, as if that has anything to do with the actual quality o the game. Even then it wasn't that good.
In any case, has anyone in the history of anything ever taken user reviews seriously?
@iLikeUrAttitude did you actually play it?
@janpampoen lol these reviewer not even user just someone make a review purely base on their own theory.
@janpampoen No. But that doesn't stop me from knowing that the game isn't for me.
@iLikeUrAttitude So how can you possibly know it is a 6 out of 10?
And in 16 days let's go is going to get overshadowed by ssbu.
I don't remember people review bombing or complaning this much about the Colosseum games. They too were watered down examples of a pokemon game where you stole/liberated Pokemon from other trainers. Much of the features in the mainline were not present like breading for example. Lets Go is a fun spin off like the Colosseum games, that is not part of the main line, was never advertised as part of the main line and doesnt pretend to be. The game is not free from criticism but buying the game then complaining about features that were well advertised is dumb. Gamefreak delivered what they promised. You should have waited for the Gen 8 games out next year if you didnt like the Lets Go style of game.
@Evilworm
Have a day off mate. You have no idea what the next game will be like but you’re moaning in advance. And I’ve got a kid who really enjoys playing with the Pokeball. Until you can grasp that not everything is meant for you, spare us your misplaced sense of superiority.
@Octane,
I have always stated that people like ourselves who post on forums,care about review scores and see video gaming as a mainline hobby are a minority on Nintendo consoles since the Gamecube generation.
Nintendo since the release of the Wii/DS has had to go after a wider demographic,as they would not make enough money competing with Microsoft and Sony in the hardcore market.
The main problem with this market is it's far more fickle,so Nintendo had great success with the Wii but failed with the Wii U,it does look like the Switch is going to be a massive success,but of course the core audience can't see why as their main buying motivators are not being met,but yet the console still seems to sell very well without lots of triple AAA games,and in their opinion lots of shovel ware and little first party support,I would suggest this is that this is because as core hobby gamers we do not understand the wider masses buying motivations.
When these new games were first announced Gamefreak had one goal in mind,this was to introduce a whole new audience to the Pokemon franchise and cash in on the massive success of Pokemon Go,then when they eventually release a mainline Pokemon game it will sell a lot better as the more casual audience will not feel out of their depth.
@electrolite77,
The main reason these new games have so much hate in the core community is they fear them becoming a success,and this of course could jeopardize future mainline entries.
Which considering Gamefreak said there was a more mainline Pokemon game in the works the moment these games were announced,makes me feel the core audiences hate seem all the more ludicrous.
@Evilworm,
You have to understand that every game made dose not have to revolve around you.
@johnvboy jeez, just look at Diablo Immortal. There is no need for the amount of hate Blizzard are getting because they are making a mobile Diablo game to get new audiences. The game itself looked like a true Diablo experience. They are not ignoring the older fans, but are trying to get new fans to keep a franchise alive.
@Trikeboy,
Very true,it's the age of entitlement to blame.
@johnvboy I agree
@Draxa just a continuation of my previous comment I FINALLY caught my shiny growlithe last night right when I was about to call it quits on my 473 catch combo 😆 my team leveled almost forty times in the process. I think I’ll wait for my shiny charm for the next shiny hunt lol
@Trikeboy There's much more going on than this just being a side game trying to draw in mobile gamers though. The larger problem here is that the main games are also trying to draw in mobile gamers by doing things like cutting content, restricting player choice, and limiting the game's challenge. So it's not just about this game, it's about the direction of the entire series. There hasn't been a game that truly appeals to the hardcore fans in years and this game has reached a new low for the series. So the argument of "don't worry, this is just a side entry, the next real game is coming next year" doesn't really hold up because even the traditional games aren't really appealing to the hardcore. For Game Freak to really satisfy the complaints of hardcore gamers, they're going to need a complete 180 of just about everything they've done in the 3DS era. No more regions that feel like hallway simulators and blocking off areas just because. No more removing features and sidequests and leaving the post game barren. No more limiting trainer rosters and AI to make things braindead easy. The games need to showcase a level of ambition and flexibility, and sadly these are things that not only have they not done, but actively gone against for the last several games.
You did it nintendo life.
You got a nice controversial article and didn't disable comments in this comment section where even the fans of the game are showing more toxicity than the so called haters.
This is the last time I click a soapbox article.
@Bolt_Strike "There hasn't been a game that truly appeals to the hardcore fans in years " Speaking for yourself of course. If you think post game is barren in Ultra Sun/Moon, then I have no idea what you want.
And seriously, a boring post game is a new thing? What can you do after you defeat the Elite 4 in Gen 1? Catch Mewtwo. Thats it. Ruby and Sapphire? Battle. Black and White? Battle. X and Y? Battle. Sun and Moon? Battle. Then there are games such as Emerald, Platinum, Fire Red/Leaf Green, Black 2/White 2, Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire, Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon and of course, the best post game, Gold/Silver that was only bested by Crystal and the remakes Heart Gold/Soul Silver.
@Trikeboy I’m referring to post games like FRLG, DPPt, HGSS, and BW2. You have tons of new areas to explore, deep and engaging sidequests and extra content, and tons of Pokémon to catch. The recent games have next to nothing. Usually just a Battle Tower type of place and some kind of repetitive mechanic to shoehorn in National Dex Pokémon and that’s about it. And you can easily whiz through all of that in like, 2 hours.
@Bolt_Strike So you didn't play Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire which had a separate story mode called the Delta Episode. Or Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon where you have the Rainbow Rocket story and after that there is a lot to find and collect.
@Trikeboy Those extra storylines aren’t really that long, they only last about an hour and that’s it. And USUM having a lot to find really isn’t as much when it’s all shoehorned into tiny areas you don’t really explore or places you’ve already been to.
I love the game
@Alex0714 There are at least over 600 Pokémon missing in the game. But if you want to overlook that, you still need to cash out to get Mew and Meltan/Melmetal (Pokeball Plus and probably in-game items in Pokémon Go).
@Crono1973 Lol That was pretty good.
Duh haters can die if they want.
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