People love to ride on Nintendo's successes, even when they're not terribly successful, such as the Wii U. So it's no enormous surprise that Huawei compared their new 'gaming phone', the Mate 20 X, to the biggest cock of the handheld gaming walk, the Nintendo Switch.
Aside from the fact that claiming something as simply 'better' is abhorrently subjective, Huawei's claims do seem rather optimistic, banking almost exclusively on the extra inch of screen and lasting twice as long each session. No mention of games, compatibility, or even good old fashioned buttons means that their bravado is a bit of a stretch in many people's eyes.
It's all just marketing talk of course, and in reality comparisons to other systems and claims of superiority are relatively commonplace, but that doesn't mean it's not fun to poke holes in them. So that's why we went and did the video above, which we thoroughly recommend you watch with your eyeballs or similar seeing appendages.
Do Huawei have a shot at competing with the Nintendo Switch with the Mate 20 X? (533 votes)
- Yep
- Hah! No
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Maybe but what about the games...
Pretty much every phone nowadays can handle games, but not at the level of a Switch.
Besides, Switch has all my Nintendo games so why bother getting a phone that's 3 times the price?
In terms of specs, yes. But software, hell no!
Not a single person voted yes. Yay! ^^
"Best portable gaming device ever"
> Doesn't even have physical controls for your right hand
> $1000
Lol
Everything is more powerful then the Switch...but everything does not have Mario...
About an hour after a long play session you feel very hungry to play more.
But what are the frame rates? Hidden costs? Artificial shortages? No games! Paid online! Kiddy toy!
So it costs more than 3x the Switch (or a Switch and NINE $60 games), and the control is optional, sold separately (Mo Money, Mo Money), is it remote like the Joy-Cons ???, Hmm, no mention...curious and ALSO no mention of ability to hook up to a tv.......most curious
I particularly like the mention of "Increased Portability", when the device looks the same size as the Switch base, add on the "optional control" and seems like it's "increased portability" drops to almost equal to Switch", misleading marketing, yah, nothing new there.
sounds like any regular iPhone, but they hope for third party game producer support
that is NOT a "Rival", it's an attempt at a "Marketing Campaign" against Apple, they will not be able to "Ruin" anything for gaming or Nintendo
Huawei? No way!
The huawei is a phone
The Nintendo switch is a games console.
Even Better than Switch ??
Ahahahahahaha..... !!!
(Rolling On The Floor Laughing)
Software sells systems, so...
My Switch with hundreds of good games is better than any phone.
Heck, a Switch with Breath of the Wild already outshines any phone.
Yeah, no, sorry but you can't play good games on phones.
Tell me when smartphones get quality games, so that we can justify having gaming marketed smartphones.
@BitLounger
it more of a symbiotic relationship, software sells games, but the hardware gives the makers of the games more tools and opportunities to make better games...so one cannot live without the other
but if you wish to argue, I have a portable NES with 256 games on it, all excellent games that sold greatly, I'll let you have for say $300
the games sell the system after all
If the goal was being pathetic and laughable then yes this is so much better than Switch. This is going to fail so miserably lol
My ps4 is better than my Samsung fridge
It’s only as good as the games that are on it. And quite frankly, 99.9% of cell phone games are not that good. There’s a reason people buy dedicated game consoles
This thing supposedly is going to cost nearly a £1000/$1000.
That alone disqualifies it, not to mention everything else including games, controls, etc.
I thought April fools was in April. Huawei:
1. Where are the Exclusives games?
2. what exclusive features does this have?
you can confess me to buy your product, if you have these two question answered. otherwise I'll just continue using my $100 android that can probably run the same games offered on this device. (other then fortnite, pubg and that spinoff pokemon game).
This side controller nonsense been out for iPhone for ages. And it has a better Screen, CPU, GPU and Battery life..
Problem is not hardware. It is trash generic games and a community who think $15 is "expensive" so publishers make nothing else.
No. But on a side note, I have been very impressed with my honor phone that they produce! Chinese tech is the one to watch for me
Voted "Yep" just for the lulz.
I'll take my mid-end Android over this overpriced phone with its odd, not included controller any day. Why? Because it plays the same games and doesn't cater to the software that I'm truly interested in.
@nab1
They can vote Yes.
Yes, Mate 20 X is better than Switch......
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If you look at them from other planet.
@Dalarrun Say their names and the trolls will appear
@Nessmissesmum Yeah man... The Chines Tech companies are amazing in the Mobile Space.
They also entering everything. I've been a Wacom user for 12 years (Japan). And Gaomon (Chinese) blew my mind this year with their PD1560.
https://www.gaomon.net/
Chinese tech is also what I keep my eye out for.
Huawei makes 'switch' too, but only for connecting computers lol
Actually every current hardware available in recent 2 years is more powerful than Switch. Do something else.
At least the Nintendo Switch doesn't have Chinese state-run spyware/malware put on the device. Huawei is alleged to do this and it's why their products are banned in some countries, due to national security concerns. Also, all touch-screen controls don't translate well to most games. I'll do something like Pokémon GO on a smartphone but I don't want to play a large game like Assassins Creed Odyssey or Breath of the Wild using nothing but swipes and gestures. No thanks. Real gaming is still consoles or computers, using a mix of control styles (touch can be utilized but primarily physical control input).
The only logic answer to your question is "yes", if only because they do have a shot. However its is a very long shot.
I actually do hope it is good. Because it is about time that phones start becoming better at being game consoles.
So I have this tablet here, a €300 multimedia device, with a larger screen, better battery life, a keyboard and mouse that simply click on it to make it a laptop, folders, web browser, netflix,.. Even if it would run the same third party Switch games in a physical format, I'd prefer my Switch. First party Nintendo content, tv dock, single joycon instant multiplayer straight out of the box,.. Gaming requires a gaming device, and, you know, good games.
Whats that remote? looks cool. Even though
single analogue stick is so old 3ds..
I'm just gonna link to this video of a timeless scene from Raimi's Spider-man trilogy to show my thoughts about Huawei's claim:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuL6cJPz3Nk
If there ever was a device that necessitates the question of ''why'', look no further. I wouldn't spend 1000 dollars on a phone if my life depended on it. Phones are for phonecalls and texting for me. If I want to play a game, I'll fire up my Switch. Or any of my other gaming machines that doesn't have Huawei's logo on it.
Oh no! Don't show this to Gamevice! They will want to sue them too...
Except for one big problem, it'll get it's games from Google Play and just look at the top 100 on that store
>"Huawei Claim their Phone is Better than Nintendo Switch"
>Claiming your overpriced piece of crap with a zillion 1-star ratings online (I Googled it, go check it!) is better than an amazing console by Nintendo
LOLno. Go back and make cheaply-made, easily-broken products to fool the gullible who don't do their research that you spy on for your own government that you sell back to said government, China.
I just use an 8BitDo controller and only play a few payed for games like King of Fighters 98 when I need my gaming fix. It's a way cheaper alternative to playing basically the same games just with half a controller, and 8BitDo's controllers work on PC and Switch too.
You can't make a phone call on a Switch.
I'd prefer Huawei smartphones over Samsung every day. But 1.000 bucks for a 'gaming phone'? Really? -_-
I own a Huawei phone (on it as I type this lol) they are the best phones... But gaming machine it is not... For the price I could by a Switch, PS4 Pro and a Xbox One X and still has change! Lol
@Agramonte It's amazing what you can do and how cheap you can do it, when you can legally confiscate the blueprints, molds, and specifications, and source code from other foreign companies and clone the design identically with impunity.
Like I said in a previous thread, this is no gaming phone. You cannot say a device is a gaming one without it having a full working gamepad. Having half a gamepad and relying on the touchscreen for button presses doesn't make it a gaming phone.
BUT, contrary to what others are saying, there ARE many nice games on Android, and many working with gamepads out of the box, that aren't f2p crap. It's just that you need to search for them a bit, as they're not always showing up on the frontpage of the storefront. I played a whole bunch of games on a portable Android gaming device. Many LEGO games (which were the same versions as the Vita versions), Telltale games, XCOM, Civilisation Revolution 2, Counterspy, Oceanhorn, Riptide GP renegade, Final Fantasy games, GTA games, Life is Strange, just to name a few... Maybe not recent AAA games like Zelda, but still, that's simply not true to say there is only crap games on there (although there is a lot of crap you have to filter through, I agree)
Guess this is the Vita's non-Sony successor. I wish them luck. Nintendoomed /lol
Nokia N-gage is the best portable console ever!
Three times the price. Good luck!
It has one thing going for it. An actual D pad.
Haha, liked the Blackadder reference.
They’ll do and say anything to sucker you into the Great Firewall.
Huawei don't have cooling CPU FAN and Heatsink compare Nintendo have CPU FAN and Heatsink wow I'm very Interesting this Switch. But Huawei i'm not huge fan.
“Can’t wait to play Candy Crush in 1080p for 6hrs or more on my new Huawei Mate X 20!” Said no one ever...
On a technical level it probably is.
@Agramonte Don't forget beauties like these also exist for phones:
I have this iPega one, myself.
@yuwarite Looks very Sony (not in a bad way). I'd expect a Vita successor to have looked like that.
Holy jgitdtdifiycky its Nokia N-gage 2.0
God FN burn it with fire
@yuwarite Oh wow, that looks good also. And like a 3rd of what I payed for my iPad one 🙄
Is it hacked already?
@xTOXICx Yeah and the other Debacle 😅
Definitely not if this is the first time I've ever even HEARD of them.
@NEStalgia What they said about Japan back in the day, when everyone realized they could not compete - time to demonize 😉
@Wolf what if, gamevice doesn't sue?
N-GAGE 2.0
@Aozz101x Just goes to show that Gamevise are idiots then honestly.
To sue Nintendo over their smartphone add-on and not Huawei's smartphone add-on shows that they were only trying to make a quick buck from Nintendo
@Agramonte Japan reverse engineered and copied many things. They made cheap knock-offs for a long time (thus the phrase "getting Japped") before they started making things better. But at no point did Japan send armed police to raid offices at midnight and confiscate their computers after laws enforcing all their data must be housed within the country, nor did Japan simply take the assembly lines they were making products for western countrys on and copy their fabrication exactly, scale it down, and then sell it as their own.
Japan's main unfair advantage in the past was a West paying for them to build their infrastructure while providing them military protection for free after stripping them of theirs. That freed up their entire economy away from defense and into industry while they happily reverse engineered western products. But that's just it. They then took the reverse engineering and made their own take on them. Korea currently is a step worse with Samsung outright copying IP and tying everyone in court until it's theirs. But they still innovate their own variations in addition to modified improvements on reverse engineered product. Chinese tech outright copies, and steals actual designs by force. No reverse engineering necessary. They take the actual source while not even pretending to honor IP law. Of course they can do it cheap....they can skip R&D, the most expensive part. Legally!
Why the world bothers manufacturing anything there knowing this is beyond me. Many companies do learn the hard way and move out though because of it.
@Yorumi People say that but telphony isn't a business Nintendo has any skill or knowledge dealing with, moves them into a whole complicated industry they don't belong in and have no strategic positioning with, to strike complicated global deals with dozens of telecom monopolies to do nothing but compete against titanic organizations like Apple, Samsung, LG, and the Chinese Communist Party D.B.A. Huawei where even the much larger and more connected Sony flails about miserably.
There's nothing about that that's a good idea
It won't matter anyway; Gamevice will just try and sue these guys too.
My toughts on Huaweis claim:
Huawei is probably banking on sold units of their device vs switch units, in the near future of course. Which would be cheating, considering how big huawei is and where their main customer base is.
"I know that in these times, paying a $1,000 for a phone is not some ludicrous idea..."
For some maybe, but that's ludicrous to me. Still rocking my 5S, and I will drive that device into the ground. Phone prices are getting insane.
Oh yeah, about the topic. I think the whole comparison is weird. It's like comparing an apple with an orange. Yeah you can do it, but why are you??
Dont know who the market is for a device like this. But wow, reading this article and this comments section you guys sound like your over compensating a touch.
It may have the hardware, but does it have the games?
I want
Since you guys keep bringing this news up then maybe I should sell my Switch for that new Phone?
AOV on switch is a subpar version of the mobile game, a shame. and with ton of bugs to boot.
Huaweis downsides not mention
1. lest you forget the battery drain would almost be dead the moment you turn it on for power hungry games.
2. And game support for the Switch far out stretches the Huaweis
3. You want a China company telling what games you can play-not me. I will be the one to make that choice.
4. Try to fit a i5-7Y57 and wait for your nuclear meltdown from lack of cooling.
5. Huaweis isn't a dedicate gaming console. Fact....
Sh!t. Guess I wasn't the only jackass that voted Yep in the hopes that they would be the one and only vote.
@Yorumi phone isn't going to be able to do Switch portable gaming and Switch was never there to do smartphone device to start with. And like other said you're comparing Apples to Oranges. And what you thought is sadly misplaced. Take a look smartphone usage has leveled off and your illusion isn't getting any better.
Oh....
Huawei DIDN'T mention about functionality can be docked & hooked onto TV like Nintendo Switch.
Mate 20 X didn't even have Hybrid function, so.............
Here is my question to you guys. How much would you be willing to spend on mobile games for a better gaming experience? Most of you probably would not spend more than $10.
This is the mindset of most people and this is why you get free to play games.
No thanks
@HollowGrapeJ
Because most hardcore gamers don't want touchscreen controls. I'm not paying $20-$30, or even $10 for a game on my phone that I can play on a system with actual joysticks and buttons.
Buy American .... this is Coming from a country that steals everything from everyone!
@yuwarite This is one of the nicer ones I have seen.
@Tendoboy You realize this is a British website right?
Yes I do....
Buy UK too not China....Then again how do you avoid it
What do the UK folks make anyhow?....other than great Beeer!
No thanks! I would rather just stick with my iPhone X, it works a lot better as an actual smartphone. As for gaming the Switch still has far better controls and a far better library.
@Dalarrun My point is everyone is comparing the quality of the games, yet they wouldn't be willing to game on a phone anyways.
@1UP_MARIO lol.
@NEStalgia "Japan, Inc." did not happen because they reverse engineered a Rolleiflex camera or Sony copied a US transistor radio 1-1 cheaper. The warning signs started when a few years later the radio fit in your pocket and the camera shutter had 1/2 the components. And nobody "they copied" were doing that - at any price.
I see the Chinese with an i7 U Laptop running at 15W with zero fans... and the same warning bells start to ring. When I hear that the cooling is an implementation of a phase changing material... it becomes a siren. Nobody else is doing that - at any price.
The Chinese had a patent for laminated bio-metric in an Oled screen in 2016. It is commercial ready this year. Apple has nothing like it - Samsung is waiting for Synaptics that does not even have a prototype out.
Their tech Industry can move pass the "cheap clone" stage (just like the Japanese). And they have the manufacturing base (we help fund) to support it. I do agree we need to pull our factories back. But not for iP - but because it is frightening for example that nobody prints top-tier motherboards in the U.S. - the home of INTEL, IBM and the birthplace of the personal freaking computer 🙄
All that said, They are being super shady in the car industry
Speaking of going onto the internet. Nintendolife is like, THE site I go to to do the whole, check into public internet thing, whenever some place's internet doesn't automatically ask me to sign in.
You can play amazing game like
amazing rope hero
cup hand and head adventures
FOR SLIGHTLY LONGER THAN THE SWITCH
This gave me a good laugh although this article is probably doing more harm than good because we all know they just made the statement to get free publicity and people will buy this stupid thing because they now know it exists.
I could never do virtual buttons. I've tried and I just can't.
WHAT??? You mean for more money you get a more powerful piece of technology?!?!?! NOOOO WAAAAAAAAAY!
Too bad it isn't a dedicated gaming device with games developed for it...and you know that price tag.
If it had access to the entire Switch library, maybe. But even then I wouldn’t want it, because guess what? I already have a Switch, and I didn’t pay $1000 for it. I wouldn’t want a phone the size of a tablet, either. Even if it does have a great processor and battery life. I don’t even like plus size phones, but that thing is huge. I would really like to have Netflix on my Switch, though. Hulu is already on it, and no one seems to think it’s a problem anymore. Other than that small, very reasonable wish, I’m perfectly fine with my phone and primary gaming device being two separate things.
@Anti-Matter Switch is better because of interface and games. However a phone by samsung or Apple is probably more powerful. However you also have to factor in the OS and any other programs running at the time.
@mikegamer You can, but controls is the problem. 8Bitdo has a phone clip for the SN30 pro. Most phones can run SNES no problem.
@Tendoboy You know the Switch (and all Nintendo hardware I think) is made in china now right?
Well utility wise, every smartphone phone is better than the switch so theres that
I have huawei, but never ever can they compete with nintendo or any game/console/game company.
Huawei is bound to playstore wich sucks bad.
And they can never compete with the quality of Nintendo games.
Hmm show me it running Skyrim as good as the switch does and come back for another look. Or does it just play Google play store games!!!!!
It might have a stronger cpu and gpu. But with passive cooling only, it'll resort to thermal trotteling in a matter of seconds. Phones are designed to use all that power in very short bursts. But then again: If it's built on a 7nm process it might actually be doable, even with passive cooling. After all, the Switch innards are ageing already. It's 3 years old and built on a 20nm process
Phone companies need to learn they must have EXCLUSIVE GAMES and not the hardware power itself. The sad thing is, that they know no third party will do exclusive games for them it’s just mobile games. The worst part is that there are tons of crappy, lazy and ugly Android games made by users and with load tons of ads! Let’s face the facts, if someone were to buy this they would not use this for mobile games and go for emulation instead.
Who is actually answering Yes to this vote???
@Spladdox And so begins another story on lawsuits on game controllers
@Trajan I never said Snes couldn't be run, I'm just saying gaming phones are pointless. Can't run Switch games on that overpriced junk.
@Yorumi I think people said the same thing around when 3DS launched.....
No a phone partnership is a disaster. They relinquish control of the platform . They are at that point just making iOS games or Android games along with all the support woes, piracy, store policies etc of another vendor. They become associated with non-gaming productivity content. There's price and fragmentation. A "Nintendo Phone" would not be anywhere near $300. A $600-$1000+ phone becomes a luxury toy for the rich, which isn't Nintendo's market at all. A cheap phone would be inferior for gaming than whatever bespoke hardware Nintendo produces for lower cost. They join the telecom contract and coverage area game. Their retail outlets expand to carrier stores which isn't always a good thing. And if they were to partner with any vendor it would almost certainly be Apple as it's the closest match for their own philosophies. That rules out Android which is 80+% of phones. And even as a Nintendo die-hard I'm not buying a $600-1000 Apple phone when Apple phones don't even have basic productivity functionality I require. Tying Nintendo to the fortunes of some other manufacturer in some other industry that has market split for other more practical reasons isn't really practical or good for NIntendo.
Plus the timing is wrong. Streaming is becoming a thing. Microsoft launched theirs (or announced it.) Google's doing their own. Nintendo certainly could set up streaming servers and start selling Nintendo Mobile ONline or such. But you'd have to be an idiot to release an expensive "gaming phone" on the advent of game streaming to phones as a mass market thing. THAT could cause trouble for handheld gaming devices. But a dedicated device is still a dedicated device, and no phone can ship with joysticks mounted on the front, and weird clip on circle pad thingies just doesn't hit the same market, nor are most people carrying them in their pocket with their phone. So if you're going to bring a controller, why not bring a dedicated handheld?
If anything hurts, it's streaming to existing phones. Not bespoke handheld gaming phones.
@Agramonte China as a whole has an inability to innovate. That's the drain that any status quo statist system puts on it's culture. They were the innovators of the world long ago. I see what you're saying however I strongly have suspicions based on prior instances with them that those high tech devices you're seeing are not their own invention but copied from elsewhere and brought to prototype stage there first. Keep in mind as a result of their...shall we say...."liberal" information gathering programs, they have access not only to commercial prototypes but also military and classified. Apple may not know what the latest in military R&D has coming down the line...but you can bet Bejing does.
If they do develop the ability to innovate, they move from problem to crisis and WWIII begins in earnest. But I'm not convinced they're there yet.
It's weird though. China has yet to be able to produce a microprocessor. They try and try. They reverse engineer. They can't do it. That's a curiosity. They can copy anything, you believe they're innovating ahead of others in some fields. Yet they can't produce a microprocessor, which is now 40+ year old tech. Of course....microprocessors are one thing that have never been manufactured in China and thus the blueprints have never been there. But still, their "information gathering" should still have yielded results by now.
If I could resurrect Nixon I'd "sock it to him" for the idiocy of opening up China.
@NEStalgia Steal from Peter to MAkE Paul 🤣 Probably!
Yeah, in our endless wisdom (or need for a quick buck) ARM decided their business plan would be "make nothing - sell the plans"
The Kirin-980 is the first in-house SOC from Huawei. They basically bought the Cortex A76, Mali G76 plans and ways to connect it to LPDDR4X memory to work in-house at Hisilicon Technologies Co. We just gave them all they need for a RISC chip. Good luck to the UK/ARM with them honoring that NDA.
Nixon knew that puck got tossed well pass his shelf life... I'll bring a shovel and a Pint 😏
@1UP_MARIO I wonder if anyone stated it like that in the Huawei offices? Or why articles say anything other than that?
This is like the MGK/Eminem beef. On one hand, you wanna talk about how ridiculous this guy is. On the other, you know that talking about him gives the product undeserved publicity and the illusion of relevance. 😁
Can't wait to play Spider Boy Super Hero City Game For Kids on my Huawei phone in crisp 60fps.
Cut to the chase...
Put this way Huawei is a Smart Phone and Switch is a portable/Docking gaming console. EOD
Couldn't get any different.
You can feel the desperation from Huawei in marketing this that they had to bring in the Switch.
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