Bethesda Confirms It Won't Be Bringing Fallout 76 To The Nintendo Switch

You are forgiven. Now brink and new Vegas please

Don't want 76, give us New Vegas.

Even if Fallout 76 could run on Switch, it’s online focus would mean the portability would be lost, leaving us with a lesser game.

I cant see Red Dead Redemption on Switch either. 2 blu-rays is crazy!

Meh, done with Bethesda anyway, the way their bug riddled products are going, the next elder scrolls will have done away with all rpg mechanics entirely.

Nobody was asking for Fallout 76, just give us a port of Fallout 4.

@BladedKnight weren't pre-ordering folks promised earlier access?

Breaking news: Company X decides that Game Y is not viable for Nintendo Switch.

crickets

So what? We all know what the Switch is and what it isn't. I appreciate the hell out of what it is, and don't lament anything that doesn't make it over. There's already more than enough to play for years. How lucky we are to have so many platforms and games to choose from, and how lucky we are to have awesome devs like Bethesda consider each platform equally when developing new games.

An online game on a portable console wouldn't work too well.

I've pretty much ditched my PS4 for the Switch. Unlike the PS4 I can play my Switch docked when I have the TV to myself and then go handheld when the TV's needed by someone else. I usually end up playing handheld and the PS4 is more or less a Blu-ray/streaming media player now.

The reason for that waffle is if a game doesn't come out on Switch I just ignore it. There are so many great games I need to play on Switch and so many more coming that I'm good for probably a year or more. If the Switch isn't powerful enough to run Fallout 76 then fair enough. I don't want to play a poor port. As I said, there are plenty of great games on Switch anyway so I don't need to buy Fallout 76 at all even if it's hailed as the greatest game ever.

I'm probably very much an outlier and there probably aren't enough people like me to make a difference to Bethesda's bottom line. I'd be interested to know if anyone else has moved to Switch full time too though. I hope this doesn't come across as a down with Bethesda rant as it's not meant to be.

Honestly I'm not interested in this game. I still haven't even played Fallout 4. I fell like they killed the part of the franchise I actually enjoyed with it.

And I'm definitely not a Switch apologist.

Just waiting for a new elder scrolls game. Doesn't matter what console it's on. Maybe Bethesda will one day make an exclusive game built specifically for switch. Highly improbable, but one can dream...

@saintayu which fallout was the last one you played?

I’m shocked, said no-one.

Oblivion remastered would be nice though

Good, I wont be buying fallout 76 then... Also Iw asn't going to anyway, bethersda games are buggy as hell. I couldnt stand fallout 4, I only played for about 10 hrs. Over rated mess of a game.

They can't even get the game to run well on any platform, so I'm not surprised.

@bolt05 Wait.. so its good because... you wont buy it since its not coming to the switch BUT you weren’t intending to buy it in the first place? So basically you are... whining about nothing? Jerry Seinfeld will be proud of you

Oh, another article to bring the trolls out!

I’m glad Bethesda always consider a Switch version when making new games, but if it’s not possible, then it’s not possible. There’s plenty of games to play already.

Edit: Why so many ”this game isn’t coming to Switch”-articles? Oh, yeah... I forgot... the clicks!

Edit 2: I have to retract my comment somewhat. I understand why you posted this article (not just for the clicks); it’s somewhat news worthy, but the biggest thing about the statement isn’t the Fallout game not coming, but that Bethesda is always considering Switch when they plan new games and for example hints for a Switch version of the upcoming Wolfenstein game. I wish you would have focused more on that, especially in the headline/subheading.

@Medic_alert I can pretty much only use the TV for games on Saturday afternoons so have pretty much only been able to make any progress in a lot of games while my wife is watching Eastenders or Strictly Come Dancing.

I can certainly see a more powerful Switch 2 somewhere in the future that will get some games from the last few years that won't run on the current Switch. I've consigned myself to playing some classic games years after the original was released on some version of the Switch just because it's the perfect style of console for me. I hadn't played Dark Souls at all until the Switch version and haven't played Diablo 3 much in the last year or so so the Switch version will mean far more Diablo in my life in the future.

At least they looked into to the viability of these coming to Switch and I hope others do the same. A lot of it stems from storage and the likes of Doom, Wolfenstein etc werent that big files on other systems and will be the reason if ee never see Spyro as thats being reported to require 3 discs!

I know a bunch of people will go "just get Panic Button!!!1111!!!" not understanding that they are ONE SMALL DEVELOPER already working on ports and not all game engines are as scalable as the ones they were able to port.

@CdrJameson Yeah.. I used to play PC and Wiiu but have switched to playing the Switch full time. I'm pretty busy, though, so not in the same boat as someone who plays games full time.

Saw some videos of the beta. Not a loss at all. Looks very boring tbh. And the people playing it also stated it was a mediocre experience

Makes sense. The game could more than easily run on the Switch, Bethesda has proven that themselves with the id Software/Panic Button ports and Nintendo with Breath of the Wild. But due to the online focuse nature would feel like a divided experience on a console that is meant to be taken with you. If you play on handheld mode you would need a stable wifi connection at all times, or you would need to play solo losing the unique selling point of Fallout 76. This makes perfect sense that putting it on the Switch would compromise the experience from a gameplay perspective. Disappointing, but understandable.

Though if they tossed Fallout 3 or New Vegas my way, I'd be a happy boy.

Not a surprising announcement. 3 should be doable though (and maybe NV and 4). I’ve never played Fallout before, so it would be great to get at least one of them on Switch, I don’t even care which one, haha!

@hadrian Yeah the people who scream 'Panic Button' usually aren't the brightest of the bunch. Quite the opposite. All they did was configuring the id Tech engine and changing some assets.

And somehow that convinced all the fanboy n00bs that they can port any PS4/Xbox game to the Switch.

@BigKing You just described the general porting process nowadays. All engines are designed to be scale-able, form id Tech, to Unity, to UE4. That is like saying that what Epic did by porting Fortnite to iOS devices is not impressive because UE4 is so scale-able.

There is more to take into consideration, and you apparently have not done much reading into Panic Button as a studio. They are a very impressive group of developers and programmers who make the game engines they work with more efficient themselves if they have to. For example, for their Warframe port, they actually improved the PS4/Xbone version by proxy because they fixed an inefficiency in Digital Extremes' code for the game when working on the Switch version. So, don't talk down about a topic you either do not understand or are blinded by fanboyism. Panic Button has earned the respect they deserve because they have done more impressive ports than just Doom and Wolfenstein 2, which are only the most well known and remarkable feats they have done.

@CdrJameson full timer here. You are not alone.

@Rafke Cool, good to know!

For those that have played the Fallouts, is there a general consensus as to which of 3, NV, and 4 is the best, or is it basically just down to preference?

I’m not going to shed any tears over this news. Xbox One X can barely run this at a stable 30fps and the data streaming issue from Fallout 4 is present and accounted for in this game too.

Time for a new engine me thinks!

It's ok Bethesda, we understand. But to compensate, bring us Fallout 3, 4 and New Vegas. Deal?? Haha.
I prefer offline games wayyy more than online, so I'd be much happier with those.

Understandable, but I'm honestly surprised they haven't ported over FO3/NV to Switch. Lot of money to be made there considering those games have never graced a Nintendo console.

Not a great surprise. Switch will probably start to see less third party ports as the console ages. It’s not likely that the Switch will still be hugely successful after five years like the PS4 etc were. Nintendo will never challenge the big guys but will always offer something different for gamers and that’s fine by me. Ultimately the Switch will be reinvented and become a portable offering getting more powerful in the next few years.

@BigKing 100% agree with this so much. The funny thing is 3 posts down people already doing it.

It doesnt even run well on Xbox so

No loss there.

This game can barely run on any other platform and it looks worse than Fallout 4. A muddy mess, so i'm not surprise this isn't "doable" on Switch.

@klingki i played Fallout 4 and hated it so bad I instantly sold my PS4 - just mind-numbing, soulless crap.

@Wexter You don't know anything about development do you? Do you even code?

That an engine runs on different hardware does not mean it scales like id Tech does. id Tech allows for dynamic resolutions and 'streams' assets. id Software has always been known for pushing weaker hardware with smart optimizations. Unreal Engine was never known for that. It was always heavy.

Warframe is another 5 year old game. Totally different situation than here. Fallout also runs on a custom engine.

If Panic Button were the most talented developers in the industry... then they wouldn't be making Switch ports.

And Rocket League improved massively on the Switch after Panic Button stopped working on it.

The fact that you talk about Fortnite shows you have no idea what you are talking about. The whole idea with Fortnite was that they wanted to have it running on as much hardware as possible. That's why they went with the basic cartoony look.

@Deanster101 Geez, that’s pretty extreme! Haha

I probably seem like I’ve been living under a rock right now, but I’ve never really looked into Fallout all that much. I always imagined it was just like a post-apocalyptic version of The Elder Scrolls.

@BigKing Yeah, I do develop, I work in IT. But saying that all they had to do was scale a game using id Tech diminishes the actual other aspects of the game they had to take into account when porting the game. We do not live in the world that needed Angel Studios (now Rockstar San Diego) anymore where taking a game like RE2 and putting it on the N64 was deemed impossible and they still fit a 2-disc game onto a single N64 cart where yes they had to be either insane or beyond skilled. Yes id Tech 6 is a very impressive engine, and I'm sure id Tech 7 will aid Panic Button even more with Doom Eternal, but you seem to hate them out of pure spite despite their accomplishments.

I'm not saying they are the most exceptional developers ever or can port any game, but they are a talented bunch of developers who have a background in software tool development; which has undoubtedly aided them well in working on this particular task. I'm not saying Nintendo should buy them, but they are passionate and have the know how to do what they are tasked to get done.

Not interested at all despite really enjoying the series but Elder Scrolls 6 on Nintendo's next gen could be possible given there support so far.

I love the Switch and Nintendo consoles and I'm spending 99% of my gaming time with them but so long as there are games like Red Dead and Elder Scrolls pushing hardware as far as it will go I will need to keep buying Microsoft as a partner console.

Not even one new major game for switch.
ENOUGH!!! It's time to sell my switch.
I have bored of all these ps3 and wii u remakes.
It's like some 2 people eating a steak.
Nintendo players eating the bones and ps4 players eating the meat.
I will never give again even one sent for old bad remakes for switch crap.

Im not surprised, no big deal. I still love Besthesda. But why do people respond with “online only games wouldn’t be good on Switch anyway”? SPLATOON 2 is very much an online only game. Fortnite? WarFrame? People don’t mind having to stay near WiFi, for the right game. I know I don’t. It’s still nice to lay in bed and play those titles. So maybe a different excuse is needed to not care whether a game is coming to Switch or not.

I love the series, knew 76 would never have a prayer making it to switch

@Scirocco7

But switch got nba 2k19? Lol.. which looked like the ps3 and 360 version from 7 years ago

I'll put it another online gaming requires 24/7 internet no disconnects. And considering NA internet is a joke compared to South Korea internet.

@BigKing and the name says it all. Big talker and that's all there is to it.

@CdrJameson
I have to say, I only had nintendo consoles in my gaming history (because of money mainly). I have a switch now and sometimes I'm looking towards the PS4 (because of games like Spiderman and RDR2). But me and my girlfriend live quite small, with one tv to share. I notice that I use the switch much more as handheld, sitting next to my girlfriend on the couch, so I don't hog the TV.
So while a PS4 seems tempting at first glance, I don't see me using it alot.

@Scirocco7 Good for you, pal. Good for you.

@Scirocco7 OK bye.

@klingki the differences are both preference and mechanics. I enjoyed 4, but 3 is probably my pick. It’s more desolate

@Wexter I don't hate Panic Games, I dislike the gamers who use Panic Button ports as a false narrative as to why it would be lucrative/possible to port PS4 games to the Switch. It barely ever is, unless it costs very little work, just like with the id Tech engine and ports of older games.

That is a totally different story than porting something that runs on a custom engine. And it shows time and time again. It's not the developers who are at fault here, yet Nintendo stans keep bashing developers who cannot port their games over. It's really sad.

I own all 3 consoles so I am good. Wouldn't buy Fallout 76 anyways as not my type of game but either way the console world is my oyster so to speak.

Also Bethesda have been great for Switch, this is just them being honest and anyone who can recognise the limits of the Switch wouldn't be surprised by this.

Switch is still a great system with great games though.

Also BigKing is going on my ignore list as I am sick of reading his dribble.

No big deal, I rather have Fallout 3,Vegas or even Fallout 4 instead of 76

I don't know why everybody is so offended.

I've been telling you this for months, but every time all those stans keep saying the same things: stop trolling, the 3rd party support is just on the way, just wait and see!!!

And then developer after developer keeps telling you what I said for ages: the Switch just isn't powerful enough to run the newest current gen games.

So basically you are all bullying me for speaking the truth.

I appreciate that they look at the viability of the Switch at every chance. Not sure if I’ll buy Doom Eternal on Switch or PS4 yet

Nintendo fanboys aren’t the only ones who hate this game. I’ve seen lots of hate come from the Fallout fandom on Fallout 76 (and it has nothing to do with it not getting a Switch port).

@BigKing The game IS crap whatever it comes to Switch or not. As one who played and beaten all canonical games in the series, this one disrespects the lore and is nothing but a battle royale disguised in Fallout skin. I'd rather have Fallout 3 or New Vegas. This "in before" meme is as stupid as fanboyism.

@BigKing Apologists usually say, "If Nintendo starts competing on CPU specs, then it wouldn't be any different than the PlayStation and Xbox. So what would set the machine apart?"

The answer is simple: Nintendo can choose power in addition to their usual innovative tactics. It doesn't have to be one or the other.....even if the price increases a bit. But nope, they simply refuse.

Otherwise, they could choose to break even with console sales, as opposed to making a substantial profit per unit (knowing they make millions on game sales and accessories). I feel that more companies could learn from Amazon's business model (they weren't profitable for many years; even their Kindle devices were just breaking even, knowing they'd make the money from ebook sales instead).

I love you, Nintendo, but come on. It's mostly their fault that half the games are missing in action.

People are offended because of the "in before" stupid old used meme to every topic related to game x isn't coming to Switch. Its dull and obvious. And the game sucks. Not being in Steam is already worth losing points.

Oh I totally get it, the Switch simply doesn't have the horsepower. I've never played a Fallout game before, so I'm unaffected by this.

@BigKing I was just confused about your hostility towards a group of developers who are only doing their jobs. You demeaned their work and ability without ever personally working with them and disregarding what they have done. What Bethesda has proven through their partnership with Panic Button and Skyrim Switch (which uses the same outdated custom engine as Fallout 3, NV, Fallout 4 and Fallout 76) is that Nintendo fans are also Bethesda fans and if you read the article they state they are always looking at the Switch and it is active in every one of their conversations. Just in this case Fallout 76 was only not possible due to the way the game works they never said it was a graphical problem or a power issue.

"The Switch is something I can say with certainty that it's a part of every conversation with every dev we have now... If the game will work on it, we want it to be on every platform possible.

Fallout 76 is not [coming to Switch] because it just wasn't doable"

"You go where the money is because that's how you stay in business... What we have seen compels us to say, '[Switch] is a viable platform for the kind of things we do going forward.'"

That is why people are mad at the way you have behaving because it seemed like you did not even read the article before you bad mouthed a developer who had nothing to do with the conversation except their partnership with said publisher.

@BigKing I genuinely think people would react better to what you say if you didn't word it in such a way that you appear to be talking down to everyone like idiots and acting like the big internet tough guy with a pink marshmallow avatar. Just a thought.

@Medic_alert I’m in the same place as you, I’d definitely pay £600 or so for a Switch Pro for the benefit of more games and portable play.

Dear Nintendo Life: I know you love those clicks that articles of this kind generates, but it also brings out the worst of your community. I’m so tired of fanboy accusations and other crap people are throwing around here, like it’s a school yard or something, and these articles are just more gasoline on the dumpster fire.

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@WiltonRoots Yeah, he says he’s being bullied, but he’s one of the bigger bullies himself.

@Pirlo_ze_sniper New Vegas. I didn't mean 3 or it as much. I know some people were declaring it dead then though.

I almost feel the same about TES. Skyrim isn't a bad game but the story is so shallow and the quest lines are so short.

That is what my PS4/PC is for.

@Mgene15 I suggest you get you're eyes tested if you think NBA 2K on switch doesn't look better then the 360/PS3 game.

“Sonic ‘06 Not Coming to the Switch”
#1 “In b4 'I wasn't interested in Sonic ‘06 any way, crap game”

@Agramonte Amen brother! Ready to play DMC5 & RE:MAKE 2 early 2019 on my custom PC! Thank god for PC gaming!

@Quarth He'd find a better home in /v/

I don't care about 76, i would like to get FO 3 - 4 - NV or Prey on Switch.
"Fallout 76 is not [coming to Switch] because it just wasn't doable."
I was curious of WHY it could not be done, but no reason was given.
Just "because it just wasn't doable" ... Riiiight.

I’m a big Fallout fan, and this doesn’t bother me in the least. Firstly, wasn’t too interested in a multiplayer Fallout game, secondly I still have yet to finish 4. I’d much rather them bring 3, NV, and maybe 4 to the Switch than 76.

Don’t get me wrong, not bashing 76 for choice to go multi. That’s actually a really intriguing idea. But I’ll wait to see how well it works before making the plunge. When it comes to multiplayer online gaming I favor co-op over free for all. Now free for all on a couch can be fun, because then you can arm shot your buddy who’s being a camper. 😆

That’s the next evolution in gaming we need.... haptic feedback to arm shot grievers! Lmao

@BigKing Most people rejected his message.
They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.

Whatever. if I wanted it, I'd buy it on my PC or PS4. Stinks to just be a Switch owner.

Too bad Nintendo doesn't fix that by making a console that's beefier like the competition.

Buy underpowered Nintendo hardware, YOU'RE making a choice of not getting all the multi plat games.

@MsJubilee Thank you Ms Jubilee, I heard Jesus had a crush on you when you were playing in the animated X-men series from the 90's.

@Quarth and here you are whinning? Hmmm. A doubletake here....

@SwitchForce Whinning? You mean whining for wanting a better climate on this site?

@Quarth not when you start making fanboy comments.

"It wasn't doable" implies something different than the headline "It can't be done" does.

I guess there are a lot of games not coming to the switch.

and soon people who hack games and stuff will make it work flawlessly on switch after the game has been out for a little.

@AlternateButtons I just love the way people are still acting shocked that the Switch isn’t getting these huge bloated graphically demanding games. The console’s been out over a year and a half and surely people have figured out its limitations by now. But yeah it’s all about clicks and flamebait in here these days.

@BigKing "
In b4 delusional Nintendo stans making excuses and bashing Bethesda for not bringing a current gen game to underpowered last gen hardware." Can this sentence be anymore condascending, trollish, and idiotic? The Switch isn't "underpowered" for what it is. And I'm sure they could bring the game over if they had the will and commitment. Lots of current gen games have made the transition with small compromises that doesnt affect the core gameplay.

@Pod
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"It wasn't doable" implies something different than the headline "It can't be done" does."

Couldn't have said it better. People like to change words to fit what they think they said rather then read what was said.

Here's the reply
"Fallout 76 is not [coming to Switch] because it just wasn't doable."

So tell us - others where did they said "can't" do it?

@mj2k18 Lots of current gen games have made the transition?

See, that's what I mean with delusional.

It's not true.

To the few of you who assume not caring about Fallout 76 not being on the Switch is a lie of jealousy, I seriously DO NOT CARE. I appreciate Doom on the system and I'm looking forward to Doom: Eternal, but if Fallout 4 is any indication (not to mention the statement by Bethesda about how broken 76 is going to be at launch and they're relying on their customers to do free alpha testing for them), 76 is going to be hot swamp ass.

@BigKing I mean, technically it does get current Gen games.

Outlast 1 and 2, Dark Souls Remastered, FF World, 12 Zodiac Age, DQ 11, Ffx, X-2, Wolfenstein 1 and 2 and so on and on. There have been a lot of remaster of older games true but that's part of this whole generation and not a Switch problem.

You know I'm always always pointing out the problems the Switch has, to the point where several of the diehard fanboys have blocked me and yet I can't see your comment as anything other than misinformed trolling.

@SwitchForce I was opposing fanboy comments. I never call people fanboys, it’s stupid, so I think you misunderstood me. I’m tired of people, who obviously dislikes Nintendo, coming to NL mocking its users and calling us fanboys. The negativity in every comment they make, makes you wonder if they’re just here to piss us off and articles like this one doesn’t help.

I’m okay with this. Expecting this game to land on Switch is unrealistic. That being said, Fallout 3, New Vegas, or 4 (the latter may be a tall order) would be so awesome!

@BigKing I own Doom, Wolfenstein 2, and DB Fighter Z, all current gen games, and all considered having impressive graphics from the platforms they were ported from. There's a dozen more examples.

But yeah, I'm JDNSKID delusional. Problem is most devs are just too KDKODKS lazy or cheap to make the required optimizations, then we have trolls people like you that blame it on Nintendo.

Online only + Barely runs well on the PS4/XB1 = Not doable on Switch.

My God, please no! Oh wait they're talking 'bout F76.

This thread went to h*ck in a handbasket fast

It's a newer game, what did you expect? Switch is only for super old ports.

@diablo2 I always like how they bring up hardware costs.

So they save $100 on Nintendo hardware and then buy full priced last-gen games for years because the console is underpowered.

@mj2k18 Wow 3 games.

So many.

Doom is from 2016 and runs worse than on any console back in that year.

Where is Red Dead Redemption 2?

^ Ignored.

@Joeynator3000 that's a laugh and a half. Trolls just can't stop exposing themselves.

@Damo

This is not meant to be a personal attack or anything like that, I’m tagging you only because you’re in charge of this trainwreck now.
I used to love NL, really. Now I don’t anymore: it’s sad when I realize I don’t even read most of your articles anymore and skip to the comments, as that says a lot about the quality of the writing; it’s also ironic the site was so much better when Ninty was in a pinch, during the years of the Wii U.
The thing is even the comment sections suck now, what with all the hostility and toxicity around every corner. It wasn’t this way until a couple years ago, and it’s only getting worse.

“So”, you will ask, “what do i have to do if the community’s gotten all toxic? I can’t control comments!”
That’s obviously true, but I cannot help feeling that the decline in the quality of the site’s writing has contributed a lot towards creating this unpleasant environment: I once could feel the passion in the writing, while now it all just seems to point towards clicks and ad revenues.
Articles lacking details (or straight up copy&pasting PR drivel), useless guides, appalling lists, reviews with scores all over the place and (last but not least) all these freaking articles about GAMES NOT COMING TO THE CONSOLE YOU’RE WRITING ABOUT all concur towards creating this hostile environment, prodding people to get on the two sides of the barricade and to fling feces at each other like monkeys.

So once again, sorry for calling you out but you are the one in charge; I hope you remember how this site used to be and put your all in trying to turn the situation around, as I know you care about this site at least as much as we regular users do.

@clvr Kudos to you, great comment! Hope he’ll listen.

@Quarth thank you, I knew you’d be on the same page as me
Yeah I hope he reads it and doesn’t take it too personally as he’s sometimes done in the past; I’m not judging anyone here, I just care for the well-being of a site I’ve been visiting on a daily basis for, idk, 4-5 years.

@clvr It's just a few edgelords and crybabies trying to ruin the comments, they're easily filtered out when you see them for what they are.

The blatant troll-feeding clickbaity articles? That's another story altogether. "Some so-called "AAA" game with a 100+GB mandatory install isn't coming to the Switch." You don't say Nintendolife, you don't say....

@clvr I’ve not been a member here for that long, but for many years I was a lurker, following the 3DS news, and I think it has gotten worse as well. It feels like ever since the Switch arrived it has become more toxic and hostile around here.

Edit: That said, some stuff on here are still good and I like the forum section, it feels like the more serious users post there.

@WiltonRoots oh don’t get me wrong, obvious trolls are obvious, and NL has always had its fair share even during “the good ol’ times” (as any other site), but it seems to me that it’s become to actually pander to them with this kind of articles.
I may be cynical, but I don’t believe there could be any reason for posting this article other than trigger people on both sides pf the argument, and make a lot of clicks and money in the process.

@Quarth I thought it may have been simply a pet peeve of mine, but then I realized a lot of other users feel the same. So is it me (us), or is NL really going downhill?

I think people need to accept that the Switch will not be getting many current gen AAA games that aren't Switch exclusives. We will see more and more last gen ports and people are even asking for them.

Some people are talking about the new Elder Scrolls. Even if it were coming out soon, the Switch wouldn't be getting it for the same reason it isn't getting this new Fallout game.

It's going to get even worse when the next gen consoles come out.

@clvr Downhill might be exaggerating a little bit, but the quality isn’t what it used to be, that I agree upon.

@clvr spot on, previously we had the Irish fella and the Haterboy, and prior to that we had people like Quorthon amongst others...but I don't feel the articles back then were pure trigger material like they are now.

@Quarth yeah I might be overstating it, as I love me some drama (lol), but you get what I mean

@WiltonRoots exactly! Trolls will always troll and there’s nothing we can do about it, but at least let’s not feed them these articles.

@BigKing You’ve said a lot of things I agree with, my friend, but all this “open your eyes this is the truth even if it triggers you” makes me think you’re just a 12 year old edgelord; there’s nothing wrong with that, but remember that the only thing that gets hurt by tour attitude is your own credibility.
As I said, you touch some interesting points, but as long as you keep spewing them in such an edgy and condescending way, you can’t blame people for thinking you’re a troll. Seriously, if you reworded your comments I believe a lot fewer people would jump at you. But then again, it’s your call, not mine; if you enjoy not being taken seriously by all means march on.

@clvr To add another vote, I agree. I've been lurking/commenting since the amiibo craze; Nintendo Life still used Disqus. It amazes me that the staff seems to have less article worthy topics when Nintendo is successful. Articles with little purpose other to instigate "fanboys vs. trolls" rants. Article authors attacking commenters. Sometimes, this site feels like IGN...

@saintayu All those Final Fantasy games(some of them Vita ports) can't hide the fact that the Switch does not get XV. Same for Monster Hunter Worlds. Dark Souls Remaster is no substitute for Dark Souls 2 & 3.

Outlast 1 & 2 are fun and decent digital only titles, but no triple A games.
And those are lacking: barely any third party triple A titles.

Luckily I have my PS4. The Switch is fun for intercontinental flights and some Splatoon. Other than that it's a drought until Smash Bros.

@BigKing It's kind of crazy how many people here are saying 'don't write articles that aren't positive about Nintendo'.

@clvr I get what you mean.

I think it’s good and healthy to be critical, whatever’s the subject, in this case Nintendo related stuff. But the constant and mocking negativity around here, triggered by these articles, isn’t part of a healthy conversation. It’s the opposite of that. I’m not saying we should all join arms and sing kumbaya, but criticism must be relevant and non-condesending for a rewarding discussion to be enabled.

@DanPan16 thank you mate, I share all of those sentiments and concerns too.

“It amazes me that the staff seems to have less article worthy topics when Nintendo is successful.”
This, so much this.

“Article authors attacking commenters”
Well, at least this doesn’t happen in here; quite the opposite, to be honest.
I find it curious that PS and NL have oposite stances on this: while PS authors may be overly defensive and even rude to the commenters (it has happened to me personally to be attacked and called a crybaby just for criticizing their lack of tolerance towards naming other consoles), they’re always there to answer questions and have a chat with the community; NL authors, on the other hand, rarely show up in the comment sections, giving the impression that they don’t really care that much about our feedback.
NL even had a poll asking us what we liked and disliked sbout the site, but nothing seems to have changed apart from Damo taking over Dom’s role.

@electrolite77 Yeah, I know. The usual suspects always shows up. You don’t see me going to a PS fanpage or a Xbox site, commenting in the same manner. In fact I’d only visit those sites if I owned the consoles and wanted to discuss them in a constructive way. But to toss dung all over the place? Not on the map!

Just like the majority of big third party titles. Sucks, but it's no surprise. Too bad, Switch owners.

@Crono1973 I’m gonna simply redirect you to @Quarth‘s comment (#141); telling us that Fallout 76 is not coming to the Switch when we’ve known that since it was announce isn’t talking negatively or positively about the console, it’s simply redundant.

@BladedKnight But everybody here owns multiple consoles right?

I can't imagine people only having a Switch.

We could start a GoFundMe for them.

The reviews of the BETA seem to be mixed, leaning towards critical. I prefer single-player campaigns and Fallout 76 just doesn't seem to work well from that perspective. Visually, it looks dated and the first person shooter mechanics seem less than stellar. I'm surprised that Bethesda released this, I expect better from them.

@clvr ...and yet hearing the same positive news twice wouldn't cause you to complain, would it?

I get it, the negative side of the Switch is becoming more apparent as time goes on and you don't want to hear about it.

@Damo thank you for taking the time to read and reply. Seriously, I appreciate that.
First things first, “trainwreck” is certainly too much; it sure isn’t from your perspective (as you said, the site’s as healthy and profitable as ever), but as you can understand my perspective doesn’t align with yours, me being a commenter and you being in charge, so for me it’s not all that great.

I’m also glad you acknowledge the “toxicity” problem; it certainly isn’t something easy to resolve, but to be honest saying “welp, there’s nothing we can do about it: more people equals a larger pool of trolls” simply doesn’t cut it.
I know I might come across as pretentious (all in all you don’t owe me anything and it’s my choice to come here), but I simply don’t see all that effort to try and turn the situation around, and I sure as hell don’t want to stop visiting this site.
I don’t want to sound like a spoiled brat, I’m only sying this as I feel it’s a widespread sentiment among long-time members.

Once again, thank you for your time, and I hope my thoughts will be useful and come across as fair, and not just some random useless rant.
Have a good night.

@Crono1973 yes, I’m an apologist Nintendo fanboy and I don’t want to hear the truth, you’re spot on!
Thank you for opening my eyes, you’re such a wise creature!
Now go, spread the word to the rest of the world and make it a better place!

@clvr Why don't you just not participate in threads that you find unacceptable? Why come in here and tell others that their opinions are toxic or similar?

@Damo My dad has a saying: "The more you open the window, the more crap flies in".

That’s why you have a flyswatter (moderator). I would love to get response on my reports, but you don’t seem to have a function for mod interaction on here. I’ve made reports on obvious trolling, but nothing ever happens. The toxicity is allowed to continue, even though you have a specific rule against trolling.

Edit: Thanks for your replies anyways. Just because we complain on some stuff, doesn’t mean it’s all bad and you’re doing a good job most of the time. What I think is sad though is that articles like this one are contributing to the hostile environment and therefore there needs to be more control of the comments. I’m not saying critical comments shouldn’t be allowed (look at my earlier comments in this thread), but obvious trolling attempts and personal attacks should at least lead to warnings.

Edit 2: And I know we’re on a free site. No one’s forcing us to stay. But there are a lot of good things going on here and a lot of great people contributing to the site, both among the staff and the users. I mostly enjoy my stays here.
It’s just that when you read an article - it doesn’t matter if it’s an article with positive or negative news (but it’s mostly the negative ones) - and you go to the comments section (where of course most comments are civil) and you get mocked from the usual crowd for being a Nintendo fan, for liking their products, for enjoying ports, etc., then it’s not fun to hang around here.

The latest ”What are you playing this weekend?” article is an example of that. While written to bring out something positive, in the comments section, some users were openly mocking others. It’s sad.

Edit 3: One more thing: Sometimes it feels like the headline and subheading of the articles are written in a way to generate clicks and that’s somewhat understandable (even though I don’t always like the way they’re phrased), but if we take this article for example: Yes you had something negative to report: the new Fallout game isn’t coming to Switch, but the statement from Bethesda also contained some positive news, for example that the new Wolfenstein game could come to the system. A lot of people missed this info and went right to the comments section to complain. The (also negative and somewhat changed from the original Bethesda statement) subheading ”It can't be done” could instead be ”But the new Wolfenstein might be coming instead”. That would make it a little more positive and optimistic. Just a thought.

@clvr

Completely agree. The quality of news stories and articles on the site have nosedoved the past year or so, a fact I have raised quite a few times myself. Eurogamer has also suffered the same.

@Crono1973 it’s ironic you should ask that, seeing as I simply exposed my disappointment in how the site’s been managed as of lately directly to the guy in charge, without ever calling out people, yet you came to me solely to belittle me as if you had some greater truth in your hands.
+1 for coherence.

@BladedKnight “
Thank god there are still a bunch of people here (who almost always own multiple consoles, imagine that) who don’t take news like that so overly serious and just joke about it and move on. Seriously, we need more people like that on this site”

You called me?

@Damo thank you again for taking the time to reply.
I’m sorry if I made it seem like yours is an easy job (as you said you’re always going to be accused of either feeding flame wars or shilling Nintendo), I simply wanted to vent my opinion in hope that it might be helpful. I still hope it is, and surely you responding to me is the best outcome I could desire.

@Damo In case y’all need to know, I heart NL. The diversity of articles, the difference of opinion in staff and contributors, and the forum community keep me coming

@BladedKnight

I am one of those people who mentions I own more than one console. I am not saying it to rub it in I am saying it because I get fed up seeing people moan when for the past 15 years Nintendo consoles have struggled for third party games. And that includes Gamecube which was a powerhouse so it wasn't a power issue, likely more because Nintendo caters to a different market.

In fact the third party support for Switch is the best Nintendo has had for years but still the moaners.

So I get annoyed when people get so annoyed by these things because it is their own fault. If they wanted all these third party games why wouldn't they get a PS4 or Xbox One where it is all but guaranteed those consoles would get those games?!

It is their own fault really and I have zero sympathy.

@BladedKnight Sure, send me your name and a picture of you with your Nintendo Switch playing terrible games.

@BladedKnight I haven't drawn a firm conclusion. If I were to guess, Bethesda will likely make continuous improvements resulting in a solid game further down the road. Something similar happened with The Division from Ubisoft — started out less than stellar but eventually became quite good.

@BigKing I was a Nintendo only gamer until this year. The Wii U years were trying, but I stayed faithful and was actually pretty happy with it. It was the Switch that convinced me I needed a PS4. Take away the Wii U ports (because I'm not buying games I already own or decided a few years before, I didn't want in the first place) and the Switch library was pretty thin. But even worse, I had a new console that didn't feel like a new console. It just felt like a Wii U that's extra portable which honestly at this stage in my life isn't that useful. So it just felt like more of the same when I wanted to be wowed with something I hadn't played before.

wElL wE DiDn'T wAnT iT AnYwAyS!!1!

@BigKing so basically you asked a question and totally ignored the parts of the answer you didn't like.

I played some of FF15, and all I can say is it is marginally better than 13 which the Switch also doesn't have. Yet you left that entry out, and I can't help but wonder if even you can't troll hard enough to seriously claim that it would upset Switch users.

@BladedKnight

Cool, have a good one!

I played the beta for an hour yesterday and I’m looking forward to the release. I have an Xbox One X and I wasn’t totally impressed with how the game was running so I certainly wouldn’t expect it to run on Switch and if they did it would probably be watered down to the point that I wouldn’t bother. That said, I don’t expect every game out to come out on Switch as well. It’s an underpowered portable system and I have different expectations for it.

@SuperGhirahim64 more like it can be done but it would be watered down to the point that it wouldn’t be a comparable experience to the other non-portable systems.

I wonder, what do people expect the future of the Switch to look like? Are people seeing lots of great exclusives in the coming years or lots more ports, many from previous generations?

Is there alot of excitement about the Switch's future with the next generation coming in the next couple of years?

You know, something that I have noticed on other forums like NeoGaf and Resetera is that when people talk about the Xbox One and PS4 they almost exclusively talk about the upgraded versions of them, the PS4 Pro and the Xbox One X. It's like they forgot about the original and slim models. It's almost like they have moved on without an official generational switch.

Anyway, how do you see the future of the Switch?

@BladedKnight I agree that those comments are tiresome as well. And I agree that you should be able to have a different (or in some cases an unpopular) opinion. But that’s not the same thing as storming to the comments section, trying to mock or insult people, calling them fanboys and other stuff, in every single comment. That’s not having an unpopular opinion, that is just trolling and baiting and we’ve seen a lot of examples in this thread.

Of course one should be critical of Nintendo when it’s deserved (I’ve been so myself sometimes), but some people come to this site, doesn’t matter if it’s regarding positive or negative news, twisting it around to fit their viewpoint so that they can post comments like ”Nintendo is crap”, ”the Switch is crap”, ”we’re deluded fanboys”, etc., and there’s no intent of a constructive and meaningful dialogue. It’s all about spreading negativity and it’s obvious, but they’re allowed to keep on going, even though NL has an anti-trolling rule, and that saddens me.

@clvr “Article authors attacking commenters” Fair enough. I was mainly referring to one particular author, whom I won't name since he isn't involved with this article.

Give us a Fallout game that's worth it

@mikegamer yes. I have other methods to play these games and I still don't want to. That's the part that actually concerns me.

Bethesda hasn't been making games I like anymore.

@diwdiws oh I'm not whining, as I said I don't like Bethesda games. At least my comment was actually on topic and not against the forum rules as your is, solely to attack me...

@Damo I can understand the tough and tiring spot the staff is in with the community. My personal biggest issue is the lack of Mods or Mods actually controlling the comments. Discussions and civil disagreements are great and build a community. A group of people with one mind set is not a community; it's a cult. However, when people are allowed to call each other names with no repercussions, it creates a toxic community. Personally, I created my account for the ignore list and not for discussions after 2.5 years of lurking. The ignore list is a band-aid solution to a bigger problem.

@BladedKnight I agree with what you say.

I think the article could have been better if the subheading was changed to reflect not just the negative aspects of the article, but also the positive ones.

I don't think many people are seriously surprised at this... as an all online game Fallout 76 never really interested me and I personally would rather Bethesda work on single player experiences. But regardless I hope it turns out to be good for those who are going to pick it up.

@BladedKnight You’re probably right. Goodnight!

@saintayu I am totally clueless about what FF13 has to do with all this.

@BigKing it's the other FF not coming to the Switch.

I didn't think it was complicated.

I was just wondering why you didn't mention it. You pretty much disregard all the examples you've been given to list off an exception so I expected you to mention it.

You have to appreciate the upfront honesty. And if you trust what he says, there is some comfort in knowing the Switch is at least in the discussion for their games.

With that being said, I would love for Bethesda to do something original and exclusive for the Switch. I'm sure financially and resource wise, its probably not feasible. But it would be nice to see what they can do with an all new franchise for the Switch

Anybody with half a brain should have known that game couldn't be done on the Switch. I know some call the Switch a port machine but dammit, I don't care. I want Fallout 3 or 4 on the Switch. Or New Vegas. Anything recent that can run onbthe Switch. THAT would be epic!

Fallout 76 looks a bit crap anyway. I'd much prefer a Fallout 3 port.

Why is this such a big of a headline? Everywhere on gaming site is informing this news.Isnt it obvious enough the switch couldnt run it and secondly no one asked for an online MMO on the system.

Bethesda, make it up to me by running a poll on what fallout port should come to switch: 3, New Vegas, or 4?

@saintayu So don't buy them

@BladedKnight Fixed it. But... your idea sounds like a good game!

just gave us fallout 3,fallout 4,and vegas.

Nothing wrong with a open debate with viewpoints but lest remember what they actually said "because it just wasn't doable" but people's britches are in a bind because they don't see the word "can't". So what happens when NSW 2.0HD comes out at 4K or 1080HD portable and can handle Fallout 76 then what are you going to say now? And that is coming down the road. They're already doing a screen update so it doesn't take a rocket scientists to see where this is going.

I'd rather have the singleplayer Fallout games, but even then I'm not sure I'd play them. Every time I've tried on PC, I would always choose Elder Scrolls instead. I'm just not into Fallout's setting.

@NewAdvent
Nintendo will most likely have to come out with a dedicated home console to close that gap. The gap has only widened with a hybrid handheld

@PrincessBowsette
The current switch won’t get 4

@mikegamer I don't. I thought that was obvious.

At least not Fallout. I do hope the new TES turns out better though. People act like it's impossible to not want this game so I was simply saying why I don't, regardless of the consoles it's on or not on.

And of course half of the comments are from people who act like they have inside knowledge about it. It's likely this game will perform mediocre on most of the consoles it's released on. It's a given that current Gen consoles struggle with Bethesda products on release and not just because of the specs, but because Bethesda does their games extremely lazily.

If Red Dead Redemption 2 is ever going to be released on Switch, it will need 7 cartridges (using 16GB carts).

Nintendo should ask Sony to make a Blu-ray reader add-on for the Switch Dock. Pirates had already added external hard drive support to Switch, so it can be done.

I couldn't care less. I play Nintendo systems primarily for Nintendo games.

@SwitchForce switch 2.0 is just a rumor and i doubt there be any upgrade specs on it just the same stuff thats in the current switch.

I've never been a fan of Fallout, so I'd skip '76 anyway. They probably should bring something instead, whether it be New Vegas or 4, seeing as they've teased by having Shelter out.

I do hope to see more Wolfenstein and Doom on the Switch though.

Good.

Fine for me but where is my fallout SP experience on the go?

Chop chop Bethesda!

I've heard from my channels that people weren't happy with the Beta and that there was no substance, essentially. In short, 76 has disappointed the masses right now. I feel sorry for the fans, tbh.

There is nothing wrong with negative Nintendo articles. Not everything has to be positive.

Now there is certain people who come into threads like this looking to cause an argument when I really don't see the point..

Also anyone on here who is an adult and follows the industry is lying if they bought the switch with the expectation it would be getting games like RDR2 etc etc

Sorry but unless you are a child you would have known what the switch can and cannot do so stop with the BS.

@kobashi100 My sentiments exactly.

I don't know if we are missing out here, early word hasn't been the greatest for this game. Though I also find it hard to believe that it can't be done. This not the game though that i'd want to draw my line in the sand for.

I don't think we need Elder Scrolls grief edition.

I wish someone else would pickup the franchise and make games like 1 and 2.

@PrincessBowsette I am talking future Switch they already mentioned screen update. And the talk is about future GPU and processor update that's most likely to happen down the line. Nintendo isn't tomorrow going to give us Switch 2.0HD that would be a PR nightmare. We all know that future Switch will get a GPU upgrade that's not in doubt here.

@Retupmocnin this talk about not big enough space is just that alot of hot air. Nintendo is most likely going to have a 64gb cartridge for Nintendo Switch and then what are you going to say. Forget the Optical Drive Switch was made for onthego not for couch only when you Dock.

@SwitchForce Doesn't matter if Nintendo releases 64gb cart, they have 32gb cart now and only 1 game is using it. It's too expensive.

I am currently using a 128gb flash drive with my Switch connected through USB-C (using a CFW). Nintendo should allow people to download games on external flash drive, it's the way forward.

@Retupmocnin you missed what was said. Your logic is the reason your not part of the Nintendo technology team. Using your own logic then Digital is the only way to go-why even use USB drive. All that talk is plain to see is not really putting much thought.

That's fine but what about Fallout 4?!

@SuperGhirahim64 I’m sure when devs make a game there is a certain experience they plan to deliver to the gamer. Sometimes, even if they spend the time and money on a dedicated engine they just can’t achieve what they want on a given platform. I’ve played a couple hours now on Xbox One X and I’m hoping they improve performance on the system because i wasn’t entirely impressed. That being said this is a huge open world multiplayer game and as it is I don’t see it running on Switch, at least not in a way that the devs would be happy with. This is why Nintendo isn’t my only system, I love Nintendo but I want to play games the way they were meant to be played, not chopped up in order to work on a weaker machine.

@SwitchForce I have no idea what you are saying.

Did you use Google translate?

I would fine if they gave us Fallout 3 and New Vegas instead.

@Retupmocnin typical response...nothing new...

Didn't ask for it anyway.
Next in line, New Vegas please.

If you are a developer who develops 2018 PS4/XBO/PC games whose physics and speed are tied to framerate, then you probably shouldn't be developing any Switch games...or PS4/XBO/PC games for that matter...