@MrDocena I think it doesn't help it was called "Pokken" and not like Pokemon Tournament or something. The connections to Tekken are frankly pretty tenuous so I don't know why it had to be included in the title like that.
@Skunkfish I do feel like some aspects may annoy casual gamers who buy physical sometimes, but I don't think its the whole preservation aspect (aka being able to play your own games decades down the line) thing that will bother them. But having these games eat up your storage and also not being able to install a game in situations where you may not be connected to the internet (it is a handheld after all) may annoy some.
Already figured this tbh. Still sucks tho. Think it may be a technical limitation on Nintendo's part? Don't think they're real happy about printing all of their games on 64 gb.
@mariomaster96 normally I'd agree but as a collector I almost don't even care if it gets a Switch 2 release since it will more than likely be a key card. Lmao
@NintonicGamer the Wii U eshop was reasonably fast for its entire life span and the shovelware wasn't blatantly obvious to anyone who used it, even if it did start to pile up a bit towards the end of its lifespan. To nowhere near the extent of the Switch tho (because the Switch is actually succesful lmao)
@Zyph its better in handheld mode lmao. It also probably has better textures and better load times and all that jazz. But yea if you collect physical like me, Switch 1 version will be better to own
Well if the Switch version is unlocked 60 fps, hopefully Switch 2 BC will push it up to a consistent 60 fps so I can buy that version and just play it on Switch 2 to avoid the stupid key cart.
@WheresWaveRace True! Man that was such a funky situation with GC in Europe. I think Nintendo didn't want to have to program in both progressive scan and 60 hz options in their games lol. Fire Emblem Warriors is the first Nintendo published game to really be worded in that way of Performance Vs. Graphics (or at least similar to that).
@JumpingJackson 2.2 million in demand in Japan is WAY more demand than the Wii U ever had in demand at launch lol. The only place where Wii U really sold out at all was the US and even then it was relatively easy to find.
@Ryu_Niiyama fair enough (again lol). The usage especially in modern games just isn't good enough for me to justify it. Wii U games tended to use them better with stuff like Mario Maker and Yoshi's Wooly World. If more games used them like that, maybe I could see it.
I get this is tariff induced and not really Nintendo's fault, but I seriously wonder if anyone in the US is going to buy an Amiibo at 40 DAMN DOLLARS. Obviously we have much greater issues to worry about right now, but still...
@dskatter I'm kinda glad they didn't, with how many Xbox games only have the Xbone version on the disc. That said, I hope it works out with most third party games here.
@WoomyNNYes Yea it is weird that was very easy to get a Switch Pro for $60 for the very 4 years and then things just kinda dried up... eBay may be the best bet here as long as you get good photos beforehand and the seller has good feedback.Dang! Looking on there, quite convincing looking fakes are running rampant on there!
@Astropez What region cart do you own of the Pixel Remaster Collection? And did you make sure your Switch was fully disconnected from the internet before trying? Some games will on modern systems will try to force that stuff on you if you're connected, but then just skip it when disconnected to the internet.
@SillyG I believe having multiple games on one cart was an option added later on, but I could be wrong on that. Those type of carts just didn't really show up until the 2020s from what I remember.
@Ogbert I know its been an issue for the record. But from what we've seen it's WAY more third party games on Switch 2 than what we've seen on Switch and PS5. And just because it's been an issue, doesn't mean I don't hate it. I try to avoid buying physical games like this all together.
@Ogbert Imagine this happening in any other medium. Buying a blu ray and its just a download or a book and it just a drm locked pdf. This situation is so ridiculous imo.
@Lizuka Its happening to Switch 2 games that are fully on the cart for the original Switch lmao (No Sleep For Kaname Date). At least most Switch games that did it were SOMEWHAT understandable with bigger file sizes (or earlier on some dual pack games since they didn't have the option for two files on the cart). But when a game like Survival Kids does it that is 4 gb even in Japan where that stuff is less common, I seriously raise an eyebrow.
@Ogbert having A version of the game on the cart is WAY better than nothing on the cart. In fact for certain audiences like speedrunners, physical copies can actually help perserve older versions of games. Patches I'm accepting of because of the bigger nature of a lot of games. Plus I'm not gonna complain about smaller bug fixes that in the olden days would've either remained unfixed or just been fixed in a later reprint of the game (which still happens btw! Nintendo especially will include software updates on the cart in later prints!!!).
@Olmectron oh sorry. I never meant to imply it was on the Switch 1. I'm just saying if it was, it would likely be fully on cart given Square's history on there. You can tell the size of the game is 11 gb based on the Switch 2 packaging you can see at retailers.
@Olmectron idk the whole situation is strange tbh. This same game is fully on the cart for Switch (1). And Square Enix generally released their games fully on cart on Switch and now the small file size Bravely Default is getting a key card. I'm waiting for more info to come out on all this...
I heard rumors that Nintendo isn't doing smaller game cards this generation. 32 GB may be the smallest one available. If this is the case, it explains all the smaller games flaking out a true physical release.
@AnnoyingFrenzy you could already kinda do this on the original Switch like games like La Noire and the 2K games basically not having most of the data on the cartridge and making it one big update. Honestly I feel like Key Cards may be enabling third party developers here. But idk things are crazy rn so yea...
Interesting. I thought he'd been working with HAL again, which would've been cool. This is fine too tho. I do imagine a few HAL devs might help out or supervise or something tho.
I think this is why Nintendo made digital games cheaper to begin with in Europe specifically. We don't get physical game deals like this in the US so it will likely be the same price both physical and digital here.
Can I just say I LOVE Mario's model in this game! It captures the appeal of 90s era Kotabe Mario art so well!! Wonder was a good step in that direction, but this model is basically perfect imo
@Astropez thats not an actual lie. Check out https://www.doesitplay.org/. Out of the 490 ps5 games tested, 70% work without a download and no caveats. Another 16% work without downloads but are buggy or are missing small portions of the game like a character in a fighting game or something like that. I'd definitely say that constitutes a majority. And I've several of my ps5 games myself downloading them offline and they work just fine. Switch DOES have better statistics though with 542 games tested and 81% working great offline and 11% working with caveats.
@Edu23XWiiU Ps5 games install off the disc itself though, not the internet. At least for most games. The difference is you can do this entirely offline and that means it will still work if say the update servers shut down. Even if that means you'll be stuck with an older version of the game.
I think the Physical vs Digital price variation may just be Europe thing to counteract all of those physical game deals you can always get in Europe? On the site for Mario Kart World it justs says the price is $80 and don't you think they'd want to advertise it if it was cheaper digitally? Anyway $80 for a game is a yikes either way. But it's strange DK is cheaper when that game is clearly just as high budget as MKW???
@TenEighty Hmm, that's weird. Mine peel off super easy. I bought mine off a seller from eBay so idk. Having to shuffle through 30+ n64 games without top labels to find what game I'm looking for is really annoying though.
@TenEighty Are you talking about those top labels on n64 games to help you tell which game is which? Those stickers easily peel off without leaving residue.
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Re: The Iconic Pokémon Logo Took One Month To Create
@MrDocena I think it doesn't help it was called "Pokken" and not like Pokemon Tournament or something. The connections to Tekken are frankly pretty tenuous so I don't know why it had to be included in the title like that.
Re: Nintendo Predicted To Become "Primary Partner For Third-Party Game Publishers"
@Skunkfish I do feel like some aspects may annoy casual gamers who buy physical sometimes, but I don't think its the whole preservation aspect (aka being able to play your own games decades down the line) thing that will bother them. But having these games eat up your storage and also not being able to install a game in situations where you may not be connected to the internet (it is a handheld after all) may annoy some.
Re: Rumour: New Leak May Explain Why So Many Switch 2 Physicals Are Game Key Cards
Already figured this tbh. Still sucks tho. Think it may be a technical limitation on Nintendo's part? Don't think they're real happy about printing all of their games on 64 gb.
Re: Gorgeous 'Trails In The Sky' Remake Gets September Release Date
@mariomaster96 normally I'd agree but as a collector I almost don't even care if it gets a Switch 2 release since it will more than likely be a key card. Lmao
Re: Game Devs Weigh In On Switch 2, And A "Much Better" eShop Is A Must
@NintonicGamer the Wii U eshop was reasonably fast for its entire life span and the shovelware wasn't blatantly obvious to anyone who used it, even if it did start to pile up a bit towards the end of its lifespan. To nowhere near the extent of the Switch tho (because the Switch is actually succesful lmao)
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! Zero Has Been Rated For Switch 2
Pretty easy guess this was coming to Switch 2. This and Metaphor and Persona 3 Reload just seemed so obvious to me
Re: Atlus Reveals 'RAIDOU Remastered' Switch 2 Performance And Resolution
@Zyph its better in handheld mode lmao. It also probably has better textures and better load times and all that jazz. But yea if you collect physical like me, Switch 1 version will be better to own
Re: Atlus Reveals 'RAIDOU Remastered' Switch 2 Performance And Resolution
Well if the Switch version is unlocked 60 fps, hopefully Switch 2 BC will push it up to a consistent 60 fps so I can buy that version and just play it on Switch 2 to avoid the stupid key cart.
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations Is Confirmed As A Launch Title For Switch 2
Waiting to hear how Sega handles physical releases on Switch 2. Expecting key cards, but would love to hear otherwise.
Re: Opinion: Steam Deck Fans Are Seriously Underestimating The Switch 2
@WheresWaveRace True! Man that was such a funky situation with GC in Europe. I think Nintendo didn't want to have to program in both progressive scan and 60 hz options in their games lol. Fire Emblem Warriors is the first Nintendo published game to really be worded in that way of Performance Vs. Graphics (or at least similar to that).
Re: Nintendo Won't Have Enough Switch 2 Consoles To Satisfy Demand In Japan
@JumpingJackson 2.2 million in demand in Japan is WAY more demand than the Wii U ever had in demand at launch lol. The only place where Wii U really sold out at all was the US and even then it was relatively easy to find.
Re: Opinion: Steam Deck Fans Are Seriously Underestimating The Switch 2
Um aktually, Fire Emblem Warriors on Switch was the first Nintendo game to have a graphics/performance option 🤓
Re: Nintendo Won't Have Enough Switch 2 Consoles To Satisfy Demand In Japan
Yea guys I definitely think this will sell around the same amount of units as the Wii U. (Sarcasm)
Re: Nintendo Museum Has A Surprise If You Bring Your 3DS
Cool. Glad someone still remembered Streetpass at Nintendo.
Re: Lunar Remastered Dev Apologises For Stock Issues After Rocky Physical Launch
Honestly it lasted quite a few hours on Amazon here in the US so you did have a decent amount of time to get it.
Re: amiibo Could Be Getting A Price Hike, According To GameStop Listings (US)
@Ryu_Niiyama fair enough (again lol). The usage especially in modern games just isn't good enough for me to justify it. Wii U games tended to use them better with stuff like Mario Maker and Yoshi's Wooly World. If more games used them like that, maybe I could see it.
Re: amiibo Could Be Getting A Price Hike, According To GameStop Listings (US)
@Ryu_Niiyama fair enough. Its just you can get much higher quality figures for the same price.
Re: amiibo Could Be Getting A Price Hike, According To GameStop Listings (US)
I get this is tariff induced and not really Nintendo's fault, but I seriously wonder if anyone in the US is going to buy an Amiibo at 40 DAMN DOLLARS. Obviously we have much greater issues to worry about right now, but still...
Re: Rune Factory: Guardians Of Azuma Switch 2 Cart Will Apparently Also Work On Switch 1
@dskatter I'm kinda glad they didn't, with how many Xbox games only have the Xbone version on the disc. That said, I hope it works out with most third party games here.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 US Pre-Orders Start 24th April, System & Launch Game Pricing Unchanged
@WoomyNNYes Yea it is weird that was very easy to get a Switch Pro for $60 for the very 4 years and then things just kinda dried up... eBay may be the best bet here as long as you get good photos beforehand and the seller has good feedback.Dang! Looking on there, quite convincing looking fakes are running rampant on there!
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 US Pre-Orders Start 24th April, System & Launch Game Pricing Unchanged
@WoomyNNYes third party seller from Walmart for one https://www.walmart.com/ip/55485228?sid=77417efc-2f59-4bdc-980d-3c56503c105f Although it may be a bootleg
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 US Pre-Orders Start 24th April, System & Launch Game Pricing Unchanged
@WoomyNNYes You can still get a Switch Pro Controller online for $50 to $60 pretty easily here in the US with a brief search.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 US Pre-Orders Start 24th April, System & Launch Game Pricing Unchanged
Wasn't the Switch 2 pro controller $80 to begin with?
Re: EA Reveals Price For Split Fiction On Switch 2
This is definitely gonna be a key cart
Re: Nintendo's Switch 2 'Game-Key Cards' Somehow Manage To Make Codes-In-A-Box Worse
@Astropez What region cart do you own of the Pixel Remaster Collection? And did you make sure your Switch was fully disconnected from the internet before trying? Some games will on modern systems will try to force that stuff on you if you're connected, but then just skip it when disconnected to the internet.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@SillyG I believe having multiple games on one cart was an option added later on, but I could be wrong on that. Those type of carts just didn't really show up until the 2020s from what I remember.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Ogbert I know its been an issue for the record. But from what we've seen it's WAY more third party games on Switch 2 than what we've seen on Switch and PS5. And just because it's been an issue, doesn't mean I don't hate it. I try to avoid buying physical games like this all together.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Ogbert Imagine this happening in any other medium. Buying a blu ray and its just a download or a book and it just a drm locked pdf. This situation is so ridiculous imo.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Lizuka Its happening to Switch 2 games that are fully on the cart for the original Switch lmao (No Sleep For Kaname Date). At least most Switch games that did it were SOMEWHAT understandable with bigger file sizes (or earlier on some dual pack games since they didn't have the option for two files on the cart). But when a game like Survival Kids does it that is 4 gb even in Japan where that stuff is less common, I seriously raise an eyebrow.
Re: "We MUST Resist Buying These Game-Key Releases", Says GamesMaster Host
@Ogbert having A version of the game on the cart is WAY better than nothing on the cart. In fact for certain audiences like speedrunners, physical copies can actually help perserve older versions of games. Patches I'm accepting of because of the bigger nature of a lot of games. Plus I'm not gonna complain about smaller bug fixes that in the olden days would've either remained unfixed or just been fixed in a later reprint of the game (which still happens btw! Nintendo especially will include software updates on the cart in later prints!!!).
Re: Konami Appears To Be Releasing Suikoden I & II HD Remaster On Switch 2
@Olmectron oh sorry. I never meant to imply it was on the Switch 1. I'm just saying if it was, it would likely be fully on cart given Square's history on there. You can tell the size of the game is 11 gb based on the Switch 2 packaging you can see at retailers.
Re: Konami Appears To Be Releasing Suikoden I & II HD Remaster On Switch 2
@Olmectron idk the whole situation is strange tbh. This same game is fully on the cart for Switch (1). And Square Enix generally released their games fully on cart on Switch and now the small file size Bravely Default is getting a key card. I'm waiting for more info to come out on all this...
Re: Konami Appears To Be Releasing Suikoden I & II HD Remaster On Switch 2
I heard rumors that Nintendo isn't doing smaller game cards this generation. 32 GB may be the smallest one available. If this is the case, it explains all the smaller games flaking out a true physical release.
Re: Elden Ring's Switch 2 Physical Version Seemingly Tarnished By 'Game-Key Card' Release
@AnnoyingFrenzy you could already kinda do this on the original Switch like games like La Noire and the 2K games basically not having most of the data on the cartridge and making it one big update. Honestly I feel like Key Cards may be enabling third party developers here. But idk things are crazy rn so yea...
Re: Masahiro Sakurai Provides Brief Development Update On His New Switch 2 Game
Interesting. I thought he'd been working with HAL again, which would've been cool. This is fine too tho. I do imagine a few HAL devs might help out or supervise or something tho.
Re: Select EU Retailers Are Abandoning Nintendo's Suggested Retail Price For Switch 2 Games
I think this is why Nintendo made digital games cheaper to begin with in Europe specifically. We don't get physical game deals like this in the US so it will likely be the same price both physical and digital here.
Re: Mario Kart World's Character Select Screen Teases Absolutely Huge Roster
Can I just say I LOVE Mario's model in this game! It captures the appeal of 90s era Kotabe Mario art so well!! Wonder was a good step in that direction, but this model is basically perfect imo
Re: The Nintendo Switch 2 Pro Controller - All New Features Revealed
I just hope the d pad is actually good this time.
Re: Where To Pre-Order Nintendo Switch 2
Do you have a source for the US pre order date?
Re: Nintendo's Switch 2 'Game-Key Cards' Somehow Manage To Make Codes-In-A-Box Worse
@Astropez thats not an actual lie. Check out https://www.doesitplay.org/. Out of the 490 ps5 games tested, 70% work without a download and no caveats. Another 16% work without downloads but are buggy or are missing small portions of the game like a character in a fighting game or something like that. I'd definitely say that constitutes a majority. And I've several of my ps5 games myself downloading them offline and they work just fine. Switch DOES have better statistics though with 542 games tested and 81% working great offline and 11% working with caveats.
Re: Nintendo's Switch 2 'Game-Key Cards' Somehow Manage To Make Codes-In-A-Box Worse
@Edu23XWiiU Ps5 games install off the disc itself though, not the internet. At least for most games. The difference is you can do this entirely offline and that means it will still work if say the update servers shut down. Even if that means you'll be stuck with an older version of the game.
Re: Switch 2 Games Cost A Bit More Than You're Probably Expecting
I think the Physical vs Digital price variation may just be Europe thing to counteract all of those physical game deals you can always get in Europe? On the site for Mario Kart World it justs says the price is $80 and don't you think they'd want to advertise it if it was cheaper digitally? Anyway $80 for a game is a yikes either way. But it's strange DK is cheaper when that game is clearly just as high budget as MKW???
Re: Rumour: FCC Filing Hints At Switch 2 Pro Controller, And It May Come With One Big Upgrade
I hope it has an actually good d-pad this time.
Re: N64 Recompiled Is Planning Its Best Year Yet In 2025
@DanijoEX-the-Pierrot Recompile those games yourself then. The tools are out there.
Re: Capcom Provides Update On Game Changes In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@LadyCharlie These collections are based off the arcade versions and that was a specific ps2/xbox port.
Re: Capcom Provides Update On Game Changes In 'Fighting Collection 2'
@caseyyy never released in any primarily english speaking countries
Re: Capcom Provides Update On Game Changes In 'Fighting Collection 2'
I wonder what they mean by appearance changed for certain characters in the endings of Power Stone?
Re: 'Pokémon Champions', A New Battle-Focused Game, Announced For Switch And Mobile
Holy crap is this just an official Pokemon take on Showdown???
Re: Not Even Squaresoft Could Convince Nintendo To Use Discs For The N64
@TenEighty Hmm, that's weird. Mine peel off super easy. I bought mine off a seller from eBay so idk. Having to shuffle through 30+ n64 games without top labels to find what game I'm looking for is really annoying though.
Re: Not Even Squaresoft Could Convince Nintendo To Use Discs For The N64
@TenEighty Are you talking about those top labels on n64 games to help you tell which game is which? Those stickers easily peel off without leaving residue.