@Bizzyb its not like Cyberpunk ran that much better in terms of resolution and framerate but I get what you mean. (And like you said its just UE5 lmao)
@Bizzyb look at the comparsion. Switch 1 basically looks like a different game. Switch 2 Version is still quite comparable to the ps5 version visually on the other hand. They could've maybe just done the Switch 1 vers higher res and higher framerate on Switch 2 tho if they really wanted I guess.
@Nintendo4Sonic I really don't think Shadow Generations is any less automated than SA2. In fact if you took the boost away and make the base speed somewhat faster the levels would work pretty good as SA2 levels.
@Blast16 I mean both Switch and Wii U didn't have great third party support in the months after launch, but probably for different reasons than Switch 2 lmao.
@Blast16 Its not like most consoles launch with a ton of exclusive first party games. Most Nintendo systems only launch with 3 at most. And it gets worse when you look at original Japanese launch line ups instead of the beefed up US/EU ones from being delayed.
@Suketoudara Switch 1 games almost always specify if they require a download on the front cover. And just because a patch exists doesn't mean you have to download it.
Why did these type of comparsions always use composite video? They do know all 4 consoles from that generation are capable of much higher quality video, right? (I guess the publishers wouldn't really want a more fair comparsion though.)
@Samalik believe or not HD 2d games are quite a bit better on higher end hardware. They tend to hover around the 720p 30 range on Switch docked with effects that don't look as good. Not that they're unplayable or anything, but they are more demanding games than theg look.
Wonder why its a $50 game. Is it gonna be shorter than the other two? And yea this sucks. Square Enix actually just did it right with DQ 3 HD having a free Switch 2 patch. And Tactics did it right as well.
Shinobi Art of Vengenace looks awesome and I definitely plan on playing Star Crossed Worlds. Although as a physical collector, I am somewhat torn on whether I should just get the upgrade pack or shell out the money for the actual physical since its so expensive.
@Nintendo_Thumb Original Super Mario Bros has a certain appeal that no other Mario games have due to its simplicity. The levels are pretty all built so you can just run straight through them without stopping much which gives it that speedrun appeal. And the runtime is just short enough to where the simplicity doesn't get old and again it makes it replayable. I have learned to appreciate SMB1 more as I've gotten older. That being said, I would never argue its better than SMW,SMB3 or Wonder. But hey I get it.
I don't know why a lot of these lower end indie games are struggling performance wise on Switch that shouldn't be having any problems. It feels like game optimization is a lost art at this point.
@Yozora146_ you can still play great in Mario Kart with a wheel if you get really used to the tilt controls. Most are more used to the analog stick and it is generally more precise.
@beltmenot Realistically you're going to need to delete it eventually for storage reasons though. And then potientially redownload it if you wanna play it again. And if anything happens to your console when Nintendo inevitably shuts down the servers you're f*cked.
@electrolite77 like I said though, this would essentially allow people to pass their physical copy around and give all their friends a discount. For Hogwarts it just gives you the discount and doesn't even have a cart drm check for the download.
@electrolite77 All of those have upgrade paths for the physical copy? And like I said the Switch 2 Edition is Nintendo's way of offering an "official" upgrade path and it just doesn't work on games that are Key Cards. And that affects the digital version for parity's sake I guess. I think all this crap is kinda dumb, but as of now that's how it seemingly works.
@DonkeyKongBigBoy I mean if anything having access to the original version can be kind of preservation in another way. I do agree for a game like this that's going to be get a lot of updates that add content should maybe wait till all of that content is out and just do a physical release then.
@electrolite77 Ironically the Key Cards are the reason stuff like this happens. Only standard way for an upgrade path on Switch 2 is a Switch 2 Edition which cannot be a key card as they can't work on Switch 1. Some games use a workaround to get around this process like Hogwarts or Deltarune, but that enables essentially being able to share a discount around with a Switch 1 physical copy if they let it work with physical games.
Theres some fairly minor dips from 60 fps. It really isn't that big of a deal. (I've played the game myself so...) Unless it gets really bad later in the game or something... Most games that are at all demanding will have frame rate drops at some point.
Nice to hear! Yet another sign showing Switch 2 Editions can't be "key cards" as they won't work with Switch 1. They either have to be an actual game card or a download code in a box (or just digital only all together.)
I figured this was a software issue tbh. Why would Nintendo post VRR support docked to everyone of their international websites if the hardware could never support it? Guessing a software issue cropped up which is why it was removed. Bet it will be patched at some point.
@axelhander yea of course. I do feel like the issue has lessened over time though. I feel like they might've fixed the issue with Switch 2 at least to a degree. I know people like iFixIt say that any analog stick using that type of technology is vulnerable to it, but Gamecube, Wii nunchucks/classic controller, Wii U gamepad/pro controller and even the Switch Pro Controller use that similar tech and seem to be just fine for the most part. So I'm guessing the Switch 1 Joy Con stick was just a bad part that was more vulnerable to stick drift.
@SamusHunter182 that would be possible for the most part likely... It would cause worse battery life and weird glitches in game with more significant docked mode differences like Pokemon Let's Go.
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Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! ZERO Switch And Switch 2 Performance & Resolution Detailed
@zockermiller yea of course. I just bought Raidou HD on Switch 1 even though I own a Switch 2
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! ZERO Switch And Switch 2 Performance & Resolution Detailed
@zockermiller its also a free upgrade from Switch 1 to 2 so no real reason not to just buy the Switch 1 version physically
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! ZERO Switch And Switch 2 Performance & Resolution Detailed
@Bizzyb its not like Cyberpunk ran that much better in terms of resolution and framerate but I get what you mean. (And like you said its just UE5 lmao)
Re: Dragon Ball: Sparking! ZERO Switch And Switch 2 Performance & Resolution Detailed
@Bizzyb look at the comparsion. Switch 1 basically looks like a different game. Switch 2 Version is still quite comparable to the ps5 version visually on the other hand. They could've maybe just done the Switch 1 vers higher res and higher framerate on Switch 2 tho if they really wanted I guess.
Re: Sonic Mania 2 Prototype Artwork Revealed By Christian Whitehead
@Nintendo4Sonic I really don't think Shadow Generations is any less automated than SA2. In fact if you took the boost away and make the base speed somewhat faster the levels would work pretty good as SA2 levels.
Re: Review: Chillin' By The Fire (Switch 2) - Novel Camera Integration, But Won't Set Your World Alight
@Blast16 I mean both Switch and Wii U didn't have great third party support in the months after launch, but probably for different reasons than Switch 2 lmao.
Re: Review: Chillin' By The Fire (Switch 2) - Novel Camera Integration, But Won't Set Your World Alight
@Blast16 Its not like most consoles launch with a ton of exclusive first party games. Most Nintendo systems only launch with 3 at most. And it gets worse when you look at original Japanese launch line ups instead of the beefed up US/EU ones from being delayed.
Re: Pac-Man World 2: Re-Pac Is A Big Glow-Up On Switch & Switch 2
@Suketoudara Switch 1 games almost always specify if they require a download on the front cover. And just because a patch exists doesn't mean you have to download it.
Re: Pac-Man World 2: Re-Pac Is A Big Glow-Up On Switch & Switch 2
Why did these type of comparsions always use composite video? They do know all 4 consoles from that generation are capable of much higher quality video, right? (I guess the publishers wouldn't really want a more fair comparsion though.)
Re: Nintendo Patent Featuring Crank And "Clickable Wheel" Attachments For Joy-Con 2 Surface
Taking some inspiration from the Playdate I see
Re: Nintendo Announces New 'Hello, Mario!' App For Switch And Mobile Devices
This is what we've all been waiting for from Nintendo.
Re: "We Answer To Nobody But You, The Audience" - Digital Foundry Is Now Fully Independent
Awesome for Digital Foundry. Anyways inb4 all the hate comments for them for stupid fanboy sh*t.
Re: 'Mina The Hollower', Yacht Club's Retro Zelda-Inspired Adventure, Scores Switch Release Date
Yea this game looks great. Hope the physical release isn't too far behind.
Re: Reaction: Switch 2 Needed A Partner Showcase With Pep; This Wasn't It
@ShieldHero any confirmed censorship of games in there?
Re: Octopath 0 Is A Game-Key Card On Switch 2, And Square Enix Has "No Plans" For A Switch 1 Upgrade Option
@Samalik believe or not HD 2d games are quite a bit better on higher end hardware. They tend to hover around the 720p 30 range on Switch docked with effects that don't look as good. Not that they're unplayable or anything, but they are more demanding games than theg look.
Re: Octopath 0 Is A Game-Key Card On Switch 2, And Square Enix Has "No Plans" For A Switch 1 Upgrade Option
Wonder why its a $50 game. Is it gonna be shorter than the other two? And yea this sucks. Square Enix actually just did it right with DQ 3 HD having a free Switch 2 patch. And Tactics did it right as well.
Re: Nintendo Highlights Multiple Switch 2 And Switch Games Launching In August 2025
Shinobi Art of Vengenace looks awesome and I definitely plan on playing Star Crossed Worlds. Although as a physical collector, I am somewhat torn on whether I should just get the upgrade pack or shell out the money for the actual physical since its so expensive.
Re: Japanese Variety Show Ranks Nation's Favourite Games, Mario & Animal Crossing Miss Top Spot
@Nintendo_Thumb Original Super Mario Bros has a certain appeal that no other Mario games have due to its simplicity. The levels are pretty all built so you can just run straight through them without stopping much which gives it that speedrun appeal. And the runtime is just short enough to where the simplicity doesn't get old and again it makes it replayable. I have learned to appreciate SMB1 more as I've gotten older. That being said, I would never argue its better than SMW,SMB3 or Wonder. But hey I get it.
Re: Nintendo Was The Only One Making Steady Revenue On NES, Says Capcom Vet
@KingMike Why did Jaleco do that for their NES spines? Who hurt them?
Re: Ninja Gaiden: Ragebound Will "Average" 30fps On Switch
I don't know why a lot of these lower end indie games are struggling performance wise on Switch that shouldn't be having any problems. It feels like game optimization is a lost art at this point.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's SNES Library With A Mouse Game
Fly swatting mini game is fun.
Re: Review: Nintendo Switch 2 Joy-Con 2 Wheel - Flawed, But Still Fun
@Yozora146_ you can still play great in Mario Kart with a wheel if you get really used to the tilt controls. Most are more used to the analog stick and it is generally more precise.
Re: NIS America: Trails Beyond The Horizon Switch 2 Game-Key Card Release Is "Most Beneficial Option" For Fans
@beltmenot Realistically you're going to need to delete it eventually for storage reasons though. And then potientially redownload it if you wanna play it again. And if anything happens to your console when Nintendo inevitably shuts down the servers you're f*cked.
Re: NIS America: Trails Beyond The Horizon Switch 2 Game-Key Card Release Is "Most Beneficial Option" For Fans
@Kneppy18 its $10 more than other versions for a key card that eats up space on your storage is sh*t for preservation. Literally no excuse
Re: Feature: "Never In My Wildest Dreams Would I Have Expected This" - Falcom President Talks 20 Years Of 'Trails' In Our Big Interview
JUST BE HONEST AND SAY AN ACTUAL GAME CARD IS TOO EXPENSIVE. MY LORD
Re: Pokémon Legends: Z-A Is Getting Its Very Own Switch 2 Bundle
@Zeebor15 oh yea crap I had a brain fart there. Sorry about that. Yea I loved having to spend an extra $30 to get Mario Kart World physically 😐
Re: New Pokémon Champions Gameplay Trailer Reveals 2026 Launch Window
They really announced this 2 years in advance...
Re: Pokémon Legends: Z-A Is Getting Its Very Own Switch 2 Bundle
@Zeebor15 ? This is getting an actual physical worldwide. Are you thinking of the Pokemon ScarVio+ DLC bundle cart or something?
Re: Square Enix Rules Out Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake
@electrolite77 like I said though, this would essentially allow people to pass their physical copy around and give all their friends a discount. For Hogwarts it just gives you the discount and doesn't even have a cart drm check for the download.
Re: Square Enix Rules Out Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake
@electrolite77 All of those have upgrade paths for the physical copy? And like I said the Switch 2 Edition is Nintendo's way of offering an "official" upgrade path and it just doesn't work on games that are Key Cards. And that affects the digital version for parity's sake I guess. I think all this crap is kinda dumb, but as of now that's how it seemingly works.
Re: Sonic Racing: Crossworlds On Switch 2 Will Feature The Full Base Game On Cartridge
@DonkeyKongBigBoy I mean if anything having access to the original version can be kind of preservation in another way. I do agree for a game like this that's going to be get a lot of updates that add content should maybe wait till all of that content is out and just do a physical release then.
Re: Sonic Racing: Crossworlds On Switch 2 Will Feature The Full Base Game On Cartridge
I'm sad that this excites me, but it does.
Re: Square Enix Rules Out Switch 2 "Upgrade Path" For Dragon Quest I & II HD-2D Remake
@electrolite77 Ironically the Key Cards are the reason stuff like this happens. Only standard way for an upgrade path on Switch 2 is a Switch 2 Edition which cannot be a key card as they can't work on Switch 1. Some games use a workaround to get around this process like Hogwarts or Deltarune, but that enables essentially being able to share a discount around with a Switch 1 physical copy if they let it work with physical games.
Re: Donkey Kong Bananza Director Acknowledges Performance Drops: "We Prioritized Fun And Playability"
Theres some fairly minor dips from 60 fps. It really isn't that big of a deal. (I've played the game myself so...) Unless it gets really bad later in the game or something... Most games that are at all demanding will have frame rate drops at some point.
Re: Review: Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 + 4 (Switch 2) - A Welcome Reminder Of The Series' Glory Days
@Ellie-Moo full game on disc for ps5 amd series x actually
Re: 18 Months And $200,000 Later, Modder Gives Switch Lite OLED And HDMI-Out - And A Switch 2 OLED Mod Is Next
@teo_o ok thanks. Yea its still cool. Just curious
Re: Video: Switch 2 And Steam Deck Face Off In Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark Test
Handheld mode has a performance mode? Ik bc I've played it
Re: 18 Months And $200,000 Later, Modder Gives Switch Lite OLED And HDMI-Out - And A Switch 2 OLED Mod Is Next
I'm guessing it doesn't run with Docked mode clocks with the HDMI out?
Re: Fantasy Life i Switch 2 Physical Release And Photo Mode Update Announced
Nice to hear! Yet another sign showing Switch 2 Editions can't be "key cards" as they won't work with Switch 1. They either have to be an actual game card or a download code in a box (or just digital only all together.)
Re: Switch 2 Dock Supports VRR After All, But It Doesn't Actually Work With Console
I figured this was a software issue tbh. Why would Nintendo post VRR support docked to everyone of their international websites if the hardware could never support it? Guessing a software issue cropped up which is why it was removed. Bet it will be patched at some point.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Pulled Amazon US' Switch 2 Sales After Beef Over "Unauthorised" Sellers
They've fixed this now. You can pre order Donkey Kong Bananza right now.
Re: Here Are The Square Enix Switch Games You Can Play On Switch 2 Right Now
@Rayquaza3010 yep. You're right. 😶
Re: Here's Every Square Enix Switch Game You Can Play On Switch 2 Right Now
When are they gonna patch Nier Automata. Edit:OH I JUST SAW IT ON THE LIST LMAO
Re: Mario Kart World Has Been Updated To Version 1.1.2, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
@TheDragonDAFan lmao they really want ppl to play intermissions huh
Re: Dbrand Admits Its Joy-Con Detachment Response Was "Spectacularly Terrible"
@axelhander yea of course. I do feel like the issue has lessened over time though. I feel like they might've fixed the issue with Switch 2 at least to a degree. I know people like iFixIt say that any analog stick using that type of technology is vulnerable to it, but Gamecube, Wii nunchucks/classic controller, Wii U gamepad/pro controller and even the Switch Pro Controller use that similar tech and seem to be just fine for the most part. So I'm guessing the Switch 1 Joy Con stick was just a bad part that was more vulnerable to stick drift.
Re: Missed Out On Castlevania Anniversary, Advance & Dominus Collection Physical Editions? Fear Not, As Pre-Orders Have Gone Live On Play-Asia
Dominus might also come with the latest patch on the cart that LRG did not so that would be a nice bonus
Re: Dbrand Admits Its Joy-Con Detachment Response Was "Spectacularly Terrible"
@axelhander Joy Con drift has never personally been an issue for me
Re: Dbrand Admits Its Joy-Con Detachment Response Was "Spectacularly Terrible"
This type of crap is why I for the most part only buy accessories licensed by Nintendo
Re: Review: Nintendo Switch Online GameCube Controller - The Return Of The King
@nightspades Nope it still has analog triggers
Re: "One Of The Slowest Modern LCDs I've Ever Seen" - Digital Foundry's John Linneman On Switch 2's Display
@SamusHunter182 that would be possible for the most part likely... It would cause worse battery life and weird glitches in game with more significant docked mode differences like Pokemon Let's Go.