I'd be more upset about it if I were planning to buy a lot of third party games on Switch 2 but I'll mainly be using it for Nintendo games which I expect to be on a proper cartridge. I'd actually consider going full digital but they'd need to provide a proper replacement for NSO vouchers for that to be viable for me otherwise physical is straight up cheaper.
@UltimateOtaku91 Interesting. I've actually been finding it the opposite. I'm on day 92 and so far I've smashed through every battle pretty effortlessly first time with an S rank (are there lower ranks?). Still having a great time though. Could very easily be my favourite game I play this year.
Put a good 50+ hours into it when I got into it early last year. One of the better roguelites I've played in the last few years. Will definitely try to go back to it at some point now that 2.0 is out, whether that be continuing my save on Switch 2 or starting from scratch on Steam.
I pre-ordered a Pro Controller and extra AC adaptor. Considering getting a second dock for my desk but undecided whether it's worth the extra cost yet.
@SirLink I don't think they care about people getting upset as long as it's not going to stop most people from buying the console. I think they could have gotten away with not having controller backwards compatibility if they really wanted to try to maximise accessory sales. Probably not worth it though. I think they'll sell a lot of them regardless.
@SirLink I highly doubt it's just a deliberate tactic to try to force people to buy a new controller. They could have just made the old ones not compatible at all if that was what they were going for.
Hearing about a lot of the troubles people have gone through trying to preorder makes me glad I live in Australia for this one as our preorders went up shortly after the Switch 2 Direct and are still available everywhere now. I'm sure there'll be more chances though so hopefully everyone who really wants one manages to secure it by launch.
I bought a Steam Deck when they officially launched here in Australia last November and I'll be getting a Switch 2 at launch. The former is to compliment my gaming PC to give me a bit more flexibility in how I play my Steam games and the latter is mostly so I can play all the Nintendo first party games that I love.
If I had to pick one single device to own as a standalone device then I'd definitely go with the Switch 2 which feels like better value for money overall but they serve different functions and there's room for them to co-exist.
Pre-ordered the game on Steam a while ago and been really looking forward to playing it at launch. Glad to see that it seems to be as good as I hoped it would be.
@GrailUK Plus even putting the open world aside, the tracks that we've seen look really fun and the new mechanics should spice things up a bit. I'm super excited to finally be able to get back to playing some Mario Kart after not really playing it for the last eight years.
I think they did time it correctly to dodge the shell but it was irrelevant as they wouldn't have been hit regardless due. I think you can dodge it with the feather as well (and of course the Super Horn).
If I'm not using mouse mode then I'm using a Pro Controller (or playing handheld) so I can't see myself ever swapping back and forth like that with the Joy-Con. Still pretty neat though.
I think adding mouse functionality to the console's built in controllers is actually pretty damn innovative and opens quite a few new gameplay possibilities that typically aren't possible on consoles. Plus the ability to use two mice at the same time or combine gyro with mouse controls makes it even a bit unique compared to what PC can do with mouse aiming.
I don't think there's only so much they could do in terms of innovation without drastically changing the system's form factor just for the sake of changing it which I don't think has ever been Nintendo's real aim.
I couldn't really care less about PS5 prices going up as I have no reason to consider buying one in the first place but it does feel like pretty odd timing to be raising the price. It's like free advertising for Nintendo ahead of the Switch 2 launch.
@Zyph I didn't really buy it with gaming in mind as I've always been a handheld player on Switch and I can always played docked on my monitor anyway but I was watching the Treehouse streams on it and everything looked honestly better than I would have expected so I'm actually kinda keen to try out Mario Kart on it at launch.
@Zyph I actually just got a new TV the other day that is 120hz but it's 85" and I think I'd still rather play handheld than play a game at 1080p on it haha.
I literally can't tell any difference between playing a game at 60fps and 120fps TBH so I'll likely be sticking to quality mode on any game that can hold a stable 60.
I quite like digital triggers for that reason TBH. I know analog triggers are useful for certain genres but they're all games that I don't typically play anyway.
The prices are slightly high but if the alternative is stuff like digital deluxe editions, early access, paid cosmetic DLC, loot boxes, etc. then I'll take that one off slightly higher payment with everything included in the game personally. At least Mario Kart is cheap as if you get the bundle anyway.
@MarioBrickLayer IMO the Wii U was lacking the most important thing, which is a big first party title. New Super Mario Bros. had already grown pretty stale by that point and Nintendo Land was a bit of fun but not exactly the most exciting thing in the world. 3DS launch had the same problem. Glad they seemed to have learned their lesson.
@OldGamer999 Feels pretty smooth so far down here in Australia. Was able to preorder a couple of hours after the Direct and they're still available now. Our prices aren't too bad all things considered either.
@SuperRetroArt I respect your efforts but unfortunately I think you're fighting a losing battle there. They'll just put them back up 40 days from launch if they can't list them now. Only real way to stop them would be for everyone to stop buying from them.
@astrogamer Didn't recall MK8's DLC being so soon after release but I guess that does makes sense considering how short the Wii U's life was in general haha. I still think it's likely to be a bit longer than that before we get anything for World (assuming we do at all) but either way I'm down with it.
I can see the game getting DLC much later on like Mario Kart 8 did and I would be fine with that. So far Nintendo's approach to DLC in general has been pretty good with actual quality expansions that are worth the asking price. Hopefully that continues on Switch 2.
This non-story is just another example of people online trying to find literally anything they can to complain about. I don't think all of this doom and gloom is going to count for much come launch day and there's a shiny new Mario Kart game to play (at least for those that managed to get a preorder in before it sell out).
I know some people will be disappointed by the lack of achievements but I actually kinda prefer it that way. I just want to play a game because it's fun to play and then stop when it stops being fun to play. Obviously I could always just ignore them (as I do on Steam) but I still prefer to not have them there at all.
As for no eShop music, that's also preferred for me. A lot of the time I'm browsing the eShop while watching a video or something so it just saves me the trouble of turning down the volume.
If developers even are allowed to assign commands specifically to them, I can't see that happening often. The Joy-Con don't have back buttons so it'd make it hard to play those games in handheld mode plus most third party games are multi-platform games that need to keep other controllers in mind as well.
I do love the back buttons though as long as they're nice and easy to press. I use an Xbox Elite controller for PC with two paddles attached that I permanently keep assigned to L3 and R3 as I hate using the sticks as buttons.
@Dazman People on the Internet just love complaining more than anything else. The high-ish prices have given them an easy target but if it's not that then they'll always just find something else.
Pretty happy with the value of the expansion pass these days. Mine family pass is actually expired at the moment because I wasn't playing my Switch anyway and most friends in my group haven't been paying but I plan to get all that sorted and renew it before Switch 2 launch.
@KociolekDoSyta Is it really even necessary to have every single game installed at all times though? I never bothered upgrading from a 400GB card on my Switch and instead just got into the habit of archiving games if I'm not going to be playing them any time in the near future.
I was pretty impressed by how everything looked in the Treehouse stream on my new 85" TV. I love handheld gaming, used my Switch in handheld 99% of the time and was fully prepared to do the same with Switch 2 but I might actually be tempted to use docked mode a bit more this time around if first party games are going to be looking that nice.
Between NSO vouchers for first party games and the gold coin difference between digital and physical it was essentially already cheaper to buy digitally on the Switch if you weren't buying physical games under retail price.
It's more expensive than I'd like but going by everything I've seen from the console and games so far, I'm still easily going to get my money's worth.
Games keep getting more expensive in general but rather than skipping games that I really want because they're a little on the pricy side, I'll just try to cut back on buying games that I might never get around to playing instead. A lot of wasted money in my backlog.
I'm very interested to try out the mouse controls. Love mouse for aiming but prefer stick to keyboard for movement so it's potentially the best of both worlds if it's comfortable and works well. Happy to fall back on gyro if I don't like it though.
I wasn't exactly sure what I felt about it when we saw him in the original Mario Kart teaser but the DK trailer 100% sold me. He's so expressive now and I'm all for it.
Interesting that the Switch 2 versions are the same price as Mario Kart in the US. In Australia they're at the same price point as DK, which is still a lot but a little more palatable.
Games have already been creeping up in price too much for my liking in general TBH. I'm obviously not a fan but I don't think it's specifically a Nintendo problem.
I'm not interested in paying for this but I also don't think it's really worth throwing a fit over. Happy to just ignore it and get stuck into Mario Kart.
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Re: Talking Point: Will You Be Buying Any Game-Key Card Switch 2 Games?
I'd be more upset about it if I were planning to buy a lot of third party games on Switch 2 but I'll mainly be using it for Nintendo games which I expect to be on a proper cartridge. I'd actually consider going full digital but they'd need to provide a proper replacement for NSO vouchers for that to be viable for me otherwise physical is straight up cheaper.
Re: Random: Clair Obscur Director Celebrates Amazing Switch RPG Which Launched On Same Day
@UltimateOtaku91 Interesting. I've actually been finding it the opposite. I'm on day 92 and so far I've smashed through every battle pretty effortlessly first time with an S rank (are there lower ranks?). Still having a great time though. Could very easily be my favourite game I play this year.
Re: Awesome Roguelike 'Astral Ascent' Doubles In Size With Ver. 2.0 Launch & New DLC
Put a good 50+ hours into it when I got into it early last year. One of the better roguelites I've played in the last few years. Will definitely try to go back to it at some point now that 2.0 is out, whether that be continuing my save on Switch 2 or starting from scratch on Steam.
Re: You Can Now Hide Those Naughty Hentai Games On Switch
Finally I can hide all the games I'm embarrassed to have in my collection, namely Pokemon Sword and Violet.
Re: Poll: Which Switch 2 Accessories Are You Picking Up At Launch?
@AussieMcBucket For charging while playing in handheld mode.
Re: Poll: Which Switch 2 Accessories Are You Picking Up At Launch?
I pre-ordered a Pro Controller and extra AC adaptor. Considering getting a second dock for my desk but undecided whether it's worth the extra cost yet.
Re: Nintendo Today Video Showcases The New Switch 2 Pro Controller
@SirLink I don't think they care about people getting upset as long as it's not going to stop most people from buying the console. I think they could have gotten away with not having controller backwards compatibility if they really wanted to try to maximise accessory sales. Probably not worth it though. I think they'll sell a lot of them regardless.
Re: Nintendo Today Video Showcases The New Switch 2 Pro Controller
@SirLink I highly doubt it's just a deliberate tactic to try to force people to buy a new controller. They could have just made the old ones not compatible at all if that was what they were going for.
Re: Nintendo Today Video Showcases The New Switch 2 Pro Controller
@TAndvig They're for remapping existing controls rather than adding additional inputs.
Re: Poll: So, Did You Manage To Get A Switch 2 Pre-Order In? (North America)
Hearing about a lot of the troubles people have gone through trying to preorder makes me glad I live in Australia for this one as our preorders went up shortly after the Switch 2 Direct and are still available everywhere now. I'm sure there'll be more chances though so hopefully everyone who really wants one manages to secure it by launch.
Re: Subnautica 2's PC System Requirements Have Been Revealed - Could Switch 2 Handle It?
Switch 2 should be able to handle it, as can my PC, but not sure that my heart can.
Re: Opinion: Steam Deck Fans Are Seriously Underestimating The Switch 2
I bought a Steam Deck when they officially launched here in Australia last November and I'll be getting a Switch 2 at launch. The former is to compliment my gaming PC to give me a bit more flexibility in how I play my Steam games and the latter is mostly so I can play all the Nintendo first party games that I love.
If I had to pick one single device to own as a standalone device then I'd definitely go with the Switch 2 which feels like better value for money overall but they serve different functions and there's room for them to co-exist.
Re: Review: The Hundred Line - Last Defense Academy (Switch) - An Addictive VN & Tactics Blend With Notes Of Persona
Pre-ordered the game on Steam a while ago and been really looking forward to playing it at launch. Glad to see that it seems to be as good as I hoped it would be.
Re: Uh Oh, It Looks Like Select Switch 2 Games Won't Support Cloud Saves
@GrailUK Plus even putting the open world aside, the tracks that we've seen look really fun and the new mechanics should spice things up a bit. I'm super excited to finally be able to get back to playing some Mario Kart after not really playing it for the last eight years.
Re: Uh Oh, It Looks Like Select Switch 2 Games Won't Support Cloud Saves
@GrailUK Just the fact that it launches with a good game to play alone puts it miles above the 3DS and Wii U launches in my eyes.
Re: Yep, It Looks Like You Can Still Dodge Blue Shells In Mario Kart World
I think they did time it correctly to dodge the shell but it was irrelevant as they wouldn't have been hit regardless due. I think you can dodge it with the feather as well (and of course the Super Horn).
Re: Swapping To Switch 2's Mouse Mode In Metroid Prime 4 Is As Easy As Pie
If I'm not using mouse mode then I'm using a Pro Controller (or playing handheld) so I can't see myself ever swapping back and forth like that with the Joy-Con. Still pretty neat though.
Re: Sony Vet Shuhei Yoshida Says Nintendo Is "Losing Their Identity" With Switch 2
I think adding mouse functionality to the console's built in controllers is actually pretty damn innovative and opens quite a few new gameplay possibilities that typically aren't possible on consoles. Plus the ability to use two mice at the same time or combine gyro with mouse controls makes it even a bit unique compared to what PC can do with mouse aiming.
I don't think there's only so much they could do in terms of innovation without drastically changing the system's form factor just for the sake of changing it which I don't think has ever been Nintendo's real aim.
Re: A Price Hike Puts The PS5 Digital Edition Above The Switch 2 In The UK And Europe
I couldn't really care less about PS5 prices going up as I have no reason to consider buying one in the first place but it does feel like pretty odd timing to be raising the price. It's like free advertising for Nintendo ahead of the Switch 2 launch.
Re: Mario Kart World Is Reportedly The Smoothest Entry Yet
@Zyph Haha that doesn't surprise me. Even just getting the base on my TV and putting it on the wall unit was pretty hard work.
Re: Mario Kart World Is Reportedly The Smoothest Entry Yet
@Zyph I didn't really buy it with gaming in mind as I've always been a handheld player on Switch and I can always played docked on my monitor anyway but I was watching the Treehouse streams on it and everything looked honestly better than I would have expected so I'm actually kinda keen to try out Mario Kart on it at launch.
Re: Mario Kart World Is Reportedly The Smoothest Entry Yet
@Zyph I actually just got a new TV the other day that is 120hz but it's 85" and I think I'd still rather play handheld than play a game at 1080p on it haha.
Re: Mario Kart World Is Reportedly The Smoothest Entry Yet
@Zyph I have a pretty good PC and a 240hz monitor but I've still never noticed.
Re: Mario Kart World Is Reportedly The Smoothest Entry Yet
I literally can't tell any difference between playing a game at 60fps and 120fps TBH so I'll likely be sticking to quality mode on any game that can hold a stable 60.
Re: Here's Why Switch 2's Joy-Con And Pro Controller Don't Have Analogue Triggers
I quite like digital triggers for that reason TBH. I know analog triggers are useful for certain genres but they're all games that I don't typically play anyway.
Re: Ex-PlayStation Boss Comments On Switch 2's "Hefty" Price Hikes
The prices are slightly high but if the alternative is stuff like digital deluxe editions, early access, paid cosmetic DLC, loot boxes, etc. then I'll take that one off slightly higher payment with everything included in the game personally. At least Mario Kart is cheap as if you get the bundle anyway.
Re: Talking Point: Does Switch 2 Have Nintendo's Best Launch Line-Up Ever?
@MarioBrickLayer IMO the Wii U was lacking the most important thing, which is a big first party title. New Super Mario Bros. had already grown pretty stale by that point and Nintendo Land was a bit of fun but not exactly the most exciting thing in the world. 3DS launch had the same problem. Glad they seemed to have learned their lesson.
Re: Nintendo Is Reportedly Not Releasing The Switch 2 In China Just Yet
@OldGamer999 Feels pretty smooth so far down here in Australia. Was able to preorder a couple of hours after the Direct and they're still available now. Our prices aren't too bad all things considered either.
Re: Mario Kart World "Paid DLC" Would Be A Big No-No, According To Ex-Nintendo Duo
@SuperRetroArt I respect your efforts but unfortunately I think you're fighting a losing battle there. They'll just put them back up 40 days from launch if they can't list them now. Only real way to stop them would be for everyone to stop buying from them.
Re: Mario Kart World "Paid DLC" Would Be A Big No-No, According To Ex-Nintendo Duo
@astrogamer Didn't recall MK8's DLC being so soon after release but I guess that does makes sense considering how short the Wii U's life was in general haha. I still think it's likely to be a bit longer than that before we get anything for World (assuming we do at all) but either way I'm down with it.
Re: Mario Kart World "Paid DLC" Would Be A Big No-No, According To Ex-Nintendo Duo
I can see the game getting DLC much later on like Mario Kart 8 did and I would be fine with that. So far Nintendo's approach to DLC in general has been pretty good with actual quality expansions that are worth the asking price. Hopefully that continues on Switch 2.
Re: Some Fans Are Drawing Unfavourable Comparisons Between Switch 2 And Xbox One
This non-story is just another example of people online trying to find literally anything they can to complain about. I don't think all of this doom and gloom is going to count for much come launch day and there's a shiny new Mario Kart game to play (at least for those that managed to get a preorder in before it sell out).
Re: The Switch 2 Won't Have Achievements Or eShop Music
I know some people will be disappointed by the lack of achievements but I actually kinda prefer it that way. I just want to play a game because it's fun to play and then stop when it stops being fun to play. Obviously I could always just ignore them (as I do on Steam) but I still prefer to not have them there at all.
As for no eShop music, that's also preferred for me. A lot of the time I'm browsing the eShop while watching a video or something so it just saves me the trouble of turning down the volume.
Re: Switch 2 Devs May Assign Specific Inputs To Pro Controller's Back Buttons
If developers even are allowed to assign commands specifically to them, I can't see that happening often. The Joy-Con don't have back buttons so it'd make it hard to play those games in handheld mode plus most third party games are multi-platform games that need to keep other controllers in mind as well.
I do love the back buttons though as long as they're nice and easy to press. I use an Xbox Elite controller for PC with two paddles attached that I permanently keep assigned to L3 and R3 as I hate using the sticks as buttons.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
@Dazman People on the Internet just love complaining more than anything else. The high-ish prices have given them an easy target but if it's not that then they'll always just find something else.
Re: Opinion: Oh No, I'm Not A Fan Of Switch 2's Mouse Mode At All
I'm very interested in trying Metroid with it. Even with the smaller Switch Joy-Con, I actually don't find it uncomfortable to hold like that.
Re: Nintendo Outlines Switch Online's Updated Tiers Including Switch 2 Exclusives
Pretty happy with the value of the expansion pass these days. Mine family pass is actually expired at the moment because I wasn't playing my Switch anyway and most friends in my group haven't been paying but I plan to get all that sorted and renew it before Switch 2 launch.
Re: Digital Foundry Says Switch 2 Running Switch Games At 4K Is "Quite The Thing" In Performance Breakdown
@Johnny44 The US stream froze up completely in the middle and had audio sync issues. UK stream was fine.
Re: Hands On: 'Drag x Drive' Is Fantastic, But Is It Destined To Be Switch 2's ARMS?
It looked kinda fun based on the Treehouse but my main concern would be about just how much more there is to it than what we've seen.
Re: Video: Switch 2's "Faster" Load Times Showcased With Zelda: Breath Of The Wild
@KociolekDoSyta Is it really even necessary to have every single game installed at all times though? I never bothered upgrading from a 400GB card on my Switch and instead just got into the habit of archiving games if I'm not going to be playing them any time in the near future.
Re: Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"
I was pretty impressed by how everything looked in the Treehouse stream on my new 85" TV. I love handheld gaming, used my Switch in handheld 99% of the time and was fully prepared to do the same with Switch 2 but I might actually be tempted to use docked mode a bit more this time around if first party games are going to be looking that nice.
Re: Gallery: We're Going Bananas For These New Donkey Kong Bananza Screenshots
I'm getting very hyped for this game. It's looking like such a fun time.
Re: Digital Switch 2 Games Being Cheaper Than Physical Is A "Challenge", Says Retailer GAME
Between NSO vouchers for first party games and the gold coin difference between digital and physical it was essentially already cheaper to buy digitally on the Switch if you weren't buying physical games under retail price.
Re: "DROP THE PRICE!!!" Scream Nintendo Fans During Nintendo's Treehouse Live Broadcast
It's more expensive than I'd like but going by everything I've seen from the console and games so far, I'm still easily going to get my money's worth.
Games keep getting more expensive in general but rather than skipping games that I really want because they're a little on the pricy side, I'll just try to cut back on buying games that I might never get around to playing instead. A lot of wasted money in my backlog.
Re: Please Make Sure You're Wearing Trousers When Using Switch 2's Mouse Controls
If I like the mouse mode I think I'll just try to get a second dock set up on my desk and I'll mostly just play there for those games.
Re: Hands On: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond On Switch 2 Is Staggering
I'm very interested to try out the mouse controls. Love mouse for aiming but prefer stick to keyboard for movement so it's potentially the best of both worlds if it's comfortable and works well. Happy to fall back on gyro if I don't like it though.
Re: Donkey Kong Country Artist Shares His Thoughts On Kong's New Design
@Ooyah Haha whoops, predictive text things. I'm less for the expensive part.
Re: Donkey Kong Country Artist Shares His Thoughts On Kong's New Design
I wasn't exactly sure what I felt about it when we saw him in the original Mario Kart teaser but the DK trailer 100% sold me. He's so expressive now and I'm all for it.
Re: "Don't Let Nintendo Ruin The Entire Industry" - Is $80 For Mario Kart World A Bridge Too Far?
Interesting that the Switch 2 versions are the same price as Mario Kart in the US. In Australia they're at the same price point as DK, which is still a lot but a little more palatable.
Games have already been creeping up in price too much for my liking in general TBH. I'm obviously not a fan but I don't think it's specifically a Nintendo problem.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour Price Has Been Confirmed
I'm not interested in paying for this but I also don't think it's really worth throwing a fit over. Happy to just ignore it and get stuck into Mario Kart.