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@AG_Awesome "triggered and infuriated".
???
Are you trolling? My very simple point is, that you're acting like you're not asking much at all, despite it being a whole lot.
Is it your default responce to people telling you you're being unrealistic to act like they are infuriated?

@Skippermonkey Mid single digit is around 5%. That's the middle of the single digit range.
@WhiteUmbrella That makes no sense whatsoever.

@shoeses "Requiring so many new extra peripherals".
It's just the camera and it's optional.

@AG_Awesome "Would have been all I need."
You're acting like that's not a ton of new content that would basically just be a new game. 8 new boards would be more than any of the three Switch entries have. A few side modes added and you have a full game.

@rjejr Nintendo's DLC most of the time are 10-30 USD. And Mario Party is not just a board game.

@ParrakerriRush You think Kirby Air Riders is more worthy of getting bundled than a massive game like Pokémon?

@Bulborb It absolutely is.

@Max_the_German It was compatible but had some minor issue. There were several Nintendo games like that, including Smash Ultimate for example.

@stinky_t That was only in March 2017 and because the Switch was sold out everywhere. Some people went into the store to buy a Switch and BotW and could only find the latter so they bought it in preparation. Since practically everyone who bought a Switch in March 2017 also bought BotW, the game was 20k copies higher than the console. Not really possible with Bananza as not even close to everyone who has a Switch 2 is buying the game at launch or at all. So even when many people buy the game before the console there are many more who have the console but don't buy the game.

@Bulborb It wasn't at 17 million in October 2017 yet. And 5 million Switch 2's was in June.

Regardless this data here is just about the UK retail. Extrapolating to the whole world based on that never works. It's less Nintendo leaning than most other regions and more digital heavy than almost any other country in the world.
So worldwide Switch 1 or Switch 2 numbers at the time of the game's release mean nothing here.

@westman98 Well Virtuos fired 200 people in Asia and 70 in Europe.

@Bigmanfan No there wasn't. Not sure what he's talking about.

@AverageGamer Euros, not dollars. And yes, the retail version is 90€, digital it's 80€. With the bundle it's 40€. DKB is 80€ and 70€ digital.

@Suketoudara The Lost World? Where is the game called like that?

@shiningpikablu252 The app says 1 hour 0 minutes. No clue why Nintendolife again reports a different soundtrack length.

@milonorth Fifa 21, 22 and 23, those "Legacy Editions" got 2/10 each.

@Alienfanatic Sony had mass lay offs last year with several studio closures. To be exact they had 21 studio closures over the decades, the exact same as Microsoft.

@romanista Yes, this game is the sequel to Helldivers.

@TheSaneInsanity In sleep mode that is wild.

@LuigiBlood All consoles since the original Xbox.

@Smithicus A demo would present the concept and would be short. Super Mario Odyssey is massive and does basically everything that can be done with cappy as a mechanic, both for capturing and as a platforming aid. A demo would only give a snippet of what can be done.

@TrogdorTheBurninator They have the bundle in Japan. The bundle is sold everywhere.

@FaroreAbhorsen That is true.

@Friendly I was being sarcastic. Not everything needs to be pack in.

@FaroreAbhorsen Less than 10 million of the copies Mario Kart 8 Deluxe sold were sold through the black friday bundles. Nintendo reports how many bundled games got sold in each fiscal year and with all the other bundles combined it's at most a few million in some years and below 1.5 million in others.

@Not_Soos Sushi Striker is $50/50€ and is completely different.

@Friendly Yes, everything should be a pack in. Snipperclips too. Obviously.

@PerfectFrost Hyrule Warriors was announced for winter, so it could be December but also January or February. @leo13 @electrolite77 Splatoon Raiders is not likely to come out this year.

@Zeebor15 $80 DLC?

@Sylamp The article says that too, as the Nintendo Today app said it.

@Jack_Goetz It's digital only. Why would it be a full price release?

@LazyDaisy Have you played Bowser's Fury?

@zool All Directs are commercials. There's nothing different with this one.

Why would they connect to the internet while using these things?

@Liam_Doolan Um, 85 tracks in total? The app has 115 tracks with a total runtime of 1 hour 34 minutes. Are there regional differences?

@astros75 You can give it your own rating and contribute to the joke.

@prw_88 "How many people will choose steam deck over SW2?"
Is that a serious question? You're still acting like any notable amount of people actually buy the Steam Deck? It sold below 5 million in a timeframe in which the Switch sold almost 50 million. And the Switch 2 is more capable than the Steam Deck and they still don't actually compete for the exact same audience as people who want a gaming console won't buy a Steam Deck.

Here's what metascores the various Mario Kart games got:

• Mario Kart 64: 83
• Mario Kart: Super Circuit: 93
• Mario Kart: Double Dash: 87
• Mario Kart DS: 91
• Mario Kart Wii: 82
• Mario Kart 7: 85
• Mario Kart 8: 88
• Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: 92
  (MK Live: Home Circuit: 75)
  Some are higher, some are lower, notably the still very popular Wii entry.

If you wanna talk about how their games are rated in general, you would've had an argument im 2015 or 2016, but not nowadays.
Some of the other things you said are unsurprisingly mirroring exactly what people were saying in 2017. Especially with parents not going to buy it for their children because it's apparently to expensive.

What serious issues did most first party games have since TotK? Framerate issues for EoW and Endless Ocean was a disappointment. Other than that idk what you're talking about. Was Brothership disappointing to you? Not enough graphical upgrades for LM2 HD and DKCR HD? Are those "serious issues"?

Your price related questions all apply to the PS5 even more so. And yet even despite price increases on top of an already higher price it's going to cross 100 million sold.

Success after the Switch 1 is what success for any console is: selling a lot and making a lot of money. Over 100 million is the minimum bar I'd say, right now.

@hashkey "Yes, it's had a very good launch. No, a good launch doesn't always translate into a successful lifetime (the opposite also applies)."

While some less successful consoles had good launches like the Xbox One, this launch is way beyond any other launch ever before. This is not just a good or solid launch. With 1.1 million consoles sold from June 5th to 7th, not even including Sunday and also not including the mynintendo store, it sold more than the PS4 sold in the entirety of November 2013. With the mynintendo store the gap is so large it's not even funny. The same applies for it's launch in various other countries and worldwide. Spain, France, even in Portugal it had the biggest launch ever. A console with such a massive launch is not just going to die quickly out of nowhere and fail to sell 50 million units lifetime.

@prw_88 It's really obvious that it's going to keep selling and be very successful. The only way for that not to happen would be for Nintendo to either just stop developing games or make only mediocre to bad games all of a sudden.

@Blaeugh Just read the comment right above your's and maybe also the others criticizing them and you will get or understand the DF hate.

@TrogdorTheBurninator It's cheaper than elsewhere in Japan, but that's only because of the heavy inflation that Japan suffered and most people didn't get their wages raised enough to make up for everything getting more expensive. The Switch 2 is still more expensive than any console that came before the PS5 in Japan.

@MoldyPasta The PS5 didn't get outsold yet though. Soon, but not yet. That PS2 number is for it's own first week.

@Arawn93 Actually they both sold even more than Famitsu reported. They don't have access to the mynintendo store, which had over 2.2 million people apply for the preorder lottery. So that must have sold additional couple 100k at least. And back then I remember that Sony reported over 900k sold at launch because they sold about 300k through their own online store at launch whose numbers Famitsu didn't have access to.

@Strumpan No big deal.

@Strumpan PS5 is 4.5 years old, not 6.

@Spaceman44 You think Japan is a small market for gaming? Are you serious or is this a poor attempt at trolling? You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. It's a massive market, with the Switch having shipped over 37 million units there and mobile being obsenely huge. PC is also consistently growing. Only Playstation is smaller in Japan but still relatively big compared to most other countries.
Japan generates more gaming revenue than all of Europe combined. If that is still small to you, then gaming as a whole is a small business, despite being the biggest entertainment industry in revenue for several years now.

@Spaceman44 If France is a small market then every market in Europe is small. And only like three markets in the entire world are not. Namely the US, China and Japan.

@OldGamer999 In France the Switch 2 sold apparently around 200k at launch.

@Spaceman44 It's the third biggest market in Europe. Not small at all. Double the next biggest launch ever is a massive win no matter where it is. Same happened in Spain btw. Switch 2 sold 108k at launch with PSP being the previous biggest launch at 54k and PS5 at 48k and Switch 45k.
https://www.gamereactor.es/ventas-espana-nintendo-switch-2-arrasa-en-su-estreno-con-108000-consolas-1435633/
And all that despite not launching in November in peak sales season like those other consoles.

@Spaceman44 That's the UK. In France it almost doubled the PS5's launch and is by far the biggest ever. You could say the exact opposite in that case.
Like the article said, if you bothered to read it, Nintendo has had it much harder to break through in the UK than in other places. The Switch has not been able to surpass the PS4 there but worldwide it's ahead of the PS4 by over 35 million units. And if you paid attention, the Switch's launch was much smaller and yet it's still massively popular.
Also on the internet many people were largely negative about the Switch 2.