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@johnedwin These numbers are all wrong. Why are you lying? The PS5 is at 6.7 million total lifetime sales right now. It sold a bit over 1.4 million units in 2024.
Not even the Switch in it's biggest year (2020) came close to 6.99 million in Japan.
XBS is below 700k lifetime sales. It sold below 120k units in 2024 in Japan.
The Switch sold about 3.1 million units in 2024.

At well over 35 million sold units the Switch is by far the best selling console of all time in Japan. And it's selling right now leagues better than any other console sold launch aligned.

@Purgatorium Monster Hunter is one of the biggest selling franchises ever in Japan. It single handedly carried the PSP to huge success, lead to massive hardware boosts with every game launch on 3DS and Switch. World lead to much bigger PS4 hardware numbers in it's first two weeks than PS5 with Wilds.

@UltimateOtaku91 Yes it works online with only one bought copy. The other person who doesn't own the game can download a special version and connect with the one who has a copy of the game.

@sanderev And yet It Takes Two sells like hot cakes on Switch.

@UltimateOtaku91 Software sales don't scale linearly wirh hardware installbase.

@darkswabber Monster Hunter World sold 1.35 million at launch at retail. Although almost certainly with a much lower digital share, it still outsold Wilds by a good bit. With digital Wilds is likely at a bit above 1 million.

@dmcc0 @Daniel36 Yes, these UK charts are physical only.

@Zenszulu It's not an estimate, it's an official number reported by Nintendo. It obviously includes digital sales. It's digital sales plus retail shipments.
Here's the official top 10 by Nintendo on Switch:
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html

@nessisonett This wasn't removed yet. It's being removed one month from now. Actually read the article. It's even in bold to be extra hard to miss.

@Lxlxrxzx They benefited from an extra year by having more technical polish (I hope) and it seems to me like it's slightly better looking graphically than Scarlet/Violet.

@sanderev Handheld PCs were also in large part held back because of high prices and also short battery life. That would need to change too, but you forgot the most cruicial part: Nintendo exclusive games will still lead to future Nintendo consoles selling way more. PC handheld won't "quickly consume" the console market just because they're optimized for small touchscreens or have anti-cheat. Consoles are still very different. The PC handhelds would all need to also offer an option for docking and feature a controller for that. Otherwise how would they "consume" the PS5's and Switch/2's market share?
They will still be way less convenient too.

@sanderev PC handhelds are niche and mostly appeal to a different customer base. They barely pose any kind of competition to the Switch. Look how little they all sell:
https://xcancel.com/Stealth40k/status/1894417316655349860

@-wc- Gameboy Advance sold much more than either the OG Gameboy or Gameboy Color did separately in a much shorter time than either of them and sold with massive momentum. Had the DS released just one year later, the GBA may have sold over 100 million units no problem.

The SNES sold less than the NES in big part because it got much bigger competition than the NES ever had.

The N64 sold worse in big part because of the PS1, it dropped off from the SNES by far the most in Japan. The JRPG genre that was so popular on the SNES got barely anything on the N64, but a ton on the PS1.

The Gamecube suffered from the idiotic "Nintendo is for kids" narative, with it's design not helping. The mini discs turned many third party developers off immediately. The PS2 already had such momentum, that it took to much attention away. Add Luigi's Mansion as a launch game not looking to impressive, people being disappointed with Sunshine and Wind Waker getting backlash and you got yourself it selling worse than it's predecessor.

The Wii U was an all around disaster.

The 3DS was overpriced at launch with a terrible launch lineup and barely anything else for over 9 months. Then an image for many was already created. A barren lineup. Additionally many people who bought a DS for games like Brain Training, educational games and Nintendogs etc switched to mobile games. That led to it dropping off so much from the DS.

I don't think the Switch 2 is going to outsell the Switch, but it's not going to underperform and will come reasonably close.

@konicstar Almost all Monster Hunters prior to World got a rerelease with expanded content. Only with World they replaced that with an expansion like Iceborne amd Sunbreak. A Switch 2 port wouldn't be a rerelease, but a late port like World to PC and Rise to PC and then other consoles.

@-wc- So you think the Switch being a hybrid, aka having all of Nintendo's games on one platform and being the most versatile and convenient console to use, is not one of the biggest reasons for it's success?

They combined the development resources that were split between two platforms before that into one without losing the people who prefer one of the two playtypes. Having resources split was the main reason why the Wii U had such big game droughts. Which was one of the big reasons for it's failure.

No droughts on the Switch with instead constant and consistent releases is one of the main reasons for the Switch's success.
Not making a future console hybrid means forfeiting a large number of their customers. Either the ones that prefer handhelds, or the ones that prefer home consoles. Handheld only would not lead to it having much capacity for being more powerful, like you seem to so desperately want and home only would mean they'd get in direct competition with the other consoles with a much harder time to differentiate themselves, while losing probably the biggest portion of their player base in addition to convenience.

Next up you seem to insinuate that the Switch is not inovative and has no inovative games released on it by Nintendo, or at least not enough to your liking. That's absurd. It has games like BotW, TotK, Ring Fit Adventure, Mario Kart Live, Labo to name the most blatant examples.

I backed up everything I said concretely and with ease.

@-wc- If anything they'd fail if they didn't make it hybrid. That is one of the biggest reasons for the Switch's success. And what do you mean by "has to innovate again"? The Switch itself is innovative and had a lot of innovative games on it.

Look like their next game is in full development.

@squidduforeal SMBW was added on a Friday, one day after the app launched. The very next game came the following Monday.

@MontyCircus In the US even, which is the Xbox's biggest market.

Why did someone choose Mega Man Legacy Collection when it's already on Switch? Same with Sonic Generations. Or is the 3DS version notably different in some way?

@Axecon The Switch was below 40k very often over the years. Here's a great chart with the numbers for all weeks of the Switch's life: https://www.installbaseforum.com/threads/media-create-sales-week-7-2025-feb-10-feb-16.3499/post-306750
The Switch's lowest week ever so far was at 22.100 units in 2017.

@GrailUK How is that even word salad?

@Bunkerneath Dude, what exactly does it have to do with the eshop? Read some of the previous comments here, in particularly comment #2.

@BrazillianCara And Wii Sports.

@JayJ Read the whole article. The Switch is not only manufactured in China but also Vietnam and Cambodia.

I'd buy this for half the price.

@kmtrain83 No, barely down. Switch 2 was revealed on January 16th. In that week Switch sold 47.560 units, then 45.327 units the following week with tiny declines each week since then.

@Twilite9 500CAD is 337€.

@Zach777 Nintendo has been reiterating for like 2 years now that NSO and everything is going to transition to Switch 2 and that they want a smooth generational transition and retain players etc etc.

NSO on Switch 2 will have all the features that it has on Switch 1 and maybe more. Do you think that they will suddenly reset it for everyone in a few months for no reason at all? Or do you think that on Switch 2 you won't be able to play most NSO games despite paying the same price for NSO as Switch 1 only users?

How is Wii/Wii U virtual console to Switch NSO in any way a precedent for what is happening now? That makes no sense whatsoever. The Switch is not backwards compatible to any of those consoles. The Switch 2 on the other hand is. All of these games are going to he playable on Switch 2 by default. They would have to go out of their way to make separate apps for Switch 1 and 2 and remove games arbitrarily just for Switch 2 users. That is a pointless expense.

@Zach777 Is that a serious question?

@Dee123 There were people just recently commenting here that they believe Nintendo could shut down the eshop completely at any moment. Ignoring that it's obviously carrying over to the Switch 2 same as NSO and a Switch 1 won't suddenly stop being able to access it.

@Ironcore First time I see someone complain about framerate in one of these games.

@Yosher I don't think many Japanese companies got hit with layoffs. At least I haven't heard of any big ones.
Edit: well now Bandai Namco has gotten hit with big lay-offs.

@jesse_dylan You're right, I'm just saying not all of them are fickle, since it's so many, but then I added more thoughts to the comment.

@jesse_dylan You need to understand that they have over a million private shareholders. Many of them are likely of the type that have shares in various companies and like to shuffle them around to make a quick buck asap.

@robotreptile 300 USD in 2017 are 383 USD right now. Not even close to 500. I checked with an inflation calculator.

@jesse_dylan That was weeks ago and as you can see on the graph in the image in the article, shares go up and down a lot throughout every single day.

@Haruki_NLI Also the 1.35 billion games sold don't include digital only games.
And the 72 first party million sellers wouldn't include games that Nintendo also published in some regions like Fitness Boxing 1 and 2, the Mario + Rabbids games and also for example Mario & Sonic.

13.9 trillion yen market cap is about 91 billion dollars right now.

@PtM Oh yeah, you're right. They are conected though, which why I thought that:
"Portable 3rd is an original title that adapts the core content of Monster Hunter Tri into a new single player campaign, adding supplemental original content." (from Wikipedia)

@PtM Well 3 was Portable 3rd, which was PSP exclusive (with a later HD version on PS3). But yes, 3 Ultimate launched only on 3DS and Wii U, so 4 being 3DS exclusive shouldn't have been that shocking anymore.

They give sales updates every 100k every of their games sells on their platinum titles page.
https://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html
Mega Man X Legacy Collection 2 is at 1 million btw.

@Mirastrix Only the PC version got any reviews at all. The other consoles didn't get any either. It's nothing Switch specific.

@myerscereal Fire Emblem Warriors can't run on the OG 3DS either.

@Simone93 The Wii U had also many other problems, like looking very unappealing, launching with New super Mario Bros. U, which is very underwhelming as a launch game, having big game droughts with no Nintendo games launching for months on end.

@8bit-Man The Wii U argument is a simple fact. Idk how many people thought it was just an add on, but I have heard many people say that and it's clear why. The reveal focused only on the controller and they constantly talked about how it has a new controller. What the console itself looked like many still don't even know. Some people only found out about the existence of the Wii U after the Switch released.
With the 3DS there was confusion when the 2DS released. I had to explain to my mother that it plays the same games and isn't a different thing.

@Darkri74345 Many people back then did in fact not understand it. "But you already have a Nintendo" says the parent to their child. That was not a rarity.

@Snatcher Obviously they don't own "Mario" as a trademark, they own "Super Mario" as a trademark, that's what this was about. Not "Mario" but "Super Mario" specifically. But it gets even more specific, since they only own "Super Mario" in specific categories, supermarkets not being one of them.

@AlexanderDaniels Well, I meant mainline Pokémon games.

@AlexanderDaniels Pokémon games never get discounts, ever. No need to wait. Just get a physical copy for as cheap as you can find, maybe used if you don't mind that.