OH NO! Some dime a dozen 3rd party racing game doesn't work on a console that is primarily meant to sell first party games. BETTER COMPLAIN AND HOPE FOR NEW HARDWARE.
I blame steam for starting this whole 'appeal to the budget of the broke college student' mentality that is ruining gaming. You never own digital games, people need to realize that. No matter how good a sale it is, you're still getting hosed.
At risk of sounding old, I'll tell everyone a story.
Several, and I mean several years ago, people were on the fence about this 'd-pad' thing... after so many consoles had joysticks, no one was interested in this weird flat dpad thing. After some time, it became the standard, only to be replaced with the analogue stick, which also caught hell when it first came out.
I'm fine with people playing games for money, no problem here. I just couldn't do it, I like gaming and it is my passtime, not my job. I made another passion of mine a career, I'm not one to assume that all passions should be made into profit.
I like sex, doesn't mean I want to become a pornstar.
Too many hoops to jump through. I was reading up on this and it seems like the chinese government will be pocketing most of the profits from the consoles anyway. Not worth it. You'd have to sell hundreds of millions of units just to justify the decision. They made the right choice.
I think its safe to say that DLC will be a big deal at this E3, that is my prediction and that is as far as I'm going to assume. Beyond that, we'll just have to wait and see.
I'd rather pay money for something and actually physically own it than be a sheep that buys 'digital licenses'. The amiibo I can actually own for my entire life, pass down to my grandchildren, sell to someone else. Regular DLC on the other hand is vapor, it doesn't actually exist. So yeah, keep telling people they're dumb, ya sheep.
Some games never, ever come over here unless imported.
Do you ever eat foreign food? Or enjoy foreign shows? Imagine if I came up to you while watching a foreign show and smashed your TV in and told you that you weren't allowed to watch it because it's foreign. That is what region locking is basically about.
Also, in my personal experience, 'younger gamers' don't like colorful, cute games like the big N produces.
When i was a kid and when I finally upgraded to an SNES, I played Contra and Super Mario World. Contra got most of my attention because it was a meathead shoot-em-up where you kill horrific monsters. As I got older, Super Mario World became my favorite SNES game instead.
Kids don't see that logic, they just see a game where you can 'do what you want to do' and they buy it, they don't understand the artisan work that goes into making a quality game. This is why a lot of really bad game sell anyway, or why most children's movies get made into video games. They know there is that unrefined market out there.
So excuse me if I'm not on board with the idea of appealing to younger consumers.
Nintendo dislikes the youtube concept because it means youtube's parent company makes huge profits from people watching their games. Not buying them.
Youtube is a double edged sword in my opinion. While it has SOLD many games to me, via watching others play them, it has also made me realize 'this isn't my kind of game' and has prevented sales too. I've seen games on youtube that I would have day-one-bought before all this information. Now I can watch the game be played, get what I need from the experience, and move on without ever purchasing it.
So I can relate to why nintendo wants to stranglehold youtube crowd.
Basically their deal with youtube is like this-- youtube makes helluva lot of money from adds. Nintendo wanted some of that money from their games being played (something they DON'T deserve, mind you, it'd be like saying the artist of a painting should have to give residuals to the guy who made his paints) and Youtube, instead of being a man about it and getting a lawyer and fighting back, they buckled and said "Fine, you can have some of the profits from the adds... SOME OF THE YOUTUBER'S PROFITS! MWAHAHAHAHAH" and its a happen ending for the rich people YAY!
This is some birdman logic at best, this isn't going to spell success in any stretch of the imagination. The cellphone gaming market is overbloated, it'll over-inflate and then collapse in on.
It is over saturated with garbage free games that people would rather download, low tier games that took a weekend to make with cellphone games made by big companies getting lost and making almost no money.
I've seen this happen to other companies that though cellphone gaming was where the money was at, they invested all sorts of cash into it and fell flat on their faces.
@KeithTheGeek I'm just glad you got yours, I suppose. Not sure why I always seem to get these things way late-- my significant usually gets her download codes for different nintendo promotions a day or two before me.
Maybe in Japan, but here in the US it seems that only ADULTS play consoles and they hand their cellphones off to their kids.
That being stated, the reason is 'we are under the childish impression that we'll get more profit this way, but once we've poured butt loads of money into this game and release it on a platform that is overbloated with cheap games, it'll fall into obscurity, eventually lose money and the alienated fans probably wont support us through this piss poor decision".
I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too excited for this.
I know this wont be for everyone, not every person LOVES the idea of making their own levels in games, but I think enough of us do exist that there should be more games like this.
Why are we expecting monster hunter 5 so early? We just got 4 U in the states, consider the amount of time between tri and 4... I think it is way to early to start expecting a new main-line monster hunter game.
I remember when Suda51 did the same thing and his respective company shut down.
I wish game developers would realize that switching to cellphone gaming doesn't instantly equal success. They put all this time, money, and effort into creating a game on a platform in which people are looking for something simple like scrabble or angry birds. They aren't looking for a battery killing game like Fantasy Life.
But oh well, they put all that money and work into the game, goes out in a platform where it has to compete with ten thousand other games and barely makes any money-- they'll understand how poor their choice was.
As much as I love banjo, having him in smash bros as a 3rd party character would be miserable where he stands now. Maybe back in melee days before rare whored themselves out to microsoft, but now the name banjo has been tainted.
I mean seriously, anyone who thought a game that has shown like what... 5 minutes of collective footage (if that) was coming out this year was fooling themselves.
I'm going to play everyone's favorite badguy again and say it.
Animes/cartoons/movies/tv shows based on video games are a STEP DOWN. It's like relinquishing power from the player and putting it in the hands of the writers.
Remember back when nintendo first announced they'd be doing online gaming on the DS and Wii? It fell short, it sucked, everyone was disappointed. I have a feeling their cellphone games will be the same.
I will go out of my way to explain that smartphone and tablet gaming is not HURTING video gaming, its just appealing to a market that would have probably NEVER BOUGHT A CONSOLE to begin with, or at least not bought it at launch.
Smart phone gaming, tablet gaming, and anything like it is a different branch all together. It would be like saying that MOVIES are going to replace books, or video games are going to replace movies.
Neither has happened.
Its not an issue of smart phones stealing customers, its an issue of smartphones making more money and nintendo/microsoft/sony all wanting a part of that action.
No, its not good business practice if you're thinking of loyal consumer bases, but it is good business practice if you're trying to make yourself rich(er).
People need to understand that 'cellphone gamers' aren't core gamers, they never represented the market as a whole to begin with. They represent people NINTENDO, MICROSOFT, and SONY wish would buy their products. As a business owner myself, I deal with this mentality all the time.
I sell collectibles and right next to me is a donut shop, the donut shop gets a hundred times more business than I do, because donuts have a bigger appeal to a wider variety of people. Sometimes I wish I sold donuts when I see the donut lady rolling in the cash-- but I also realize that going through the trouble of turning my collectible shop into a donut shop would alienate my loyal customers.
I really wish Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo would get over their 'need' to make trillions by appealing to a johnny come lately market platform and stay loyal to the people who have supported them for the last couple of decades.
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Re: Project CARS Studio Boss Admits to Problems With Wii U Version, Hoping For Nintendo Hardware Announcement at E3
OH NO! Some dime a dozen 3rd party racing game doesn't work on a console that is primarily meant to sell first party games. BETTER COMPLAIN AND HOPE FOR NEW HARDWARE.
Give me a break.
Re: Editorial: The eShop's Pricing Dilemma is the Fault of Many, But Damages Creativity and Risk Taking
I blame steam for starting this whole 'appeal to the budget of the broke college student' mentality that is ruining gaming. You never own digital games, people need to realize that. No matter how good a sale it is, you're still getting hosed.
Re: Video: We Tackle The Dual-Stick vs. Motion Controls Splatoon Debate
At risk of sounding old, I'll tell everyone a story.
Several, and I mean several years ago, people were on the fence about this 'd-pad' thing... after so many consoles had joysticks, no one was interested in this weird flat dpad thing. After some time, it became the standard, only to be replaced with the analogue stick, which also caught hell when it first came out.
Re: ​Feature: The Poor Career Choice of Super Smash Bros. Professionals
I'm fine with people playing games for money, no problem here. I just couldn't do it, I like gaming and it is my passtime, not my job. I made another passion of mine a career, I'm not one to assume that all passions should be made into profit.
I like sex, doesn't mean I want to become a pornstar.
Re: Stella Glow Developer Imageepoch Has Gone Bust
@ottospooky
All gaming in general, not just japan.
Re: Nintendo Ditches Plans To Create New Hardware For The Chinese Market
Too many hoops to jump through. I was reading up on this and it seems like the chinese government will be pocketing most of the profits from the consoles anyway. Not worth it. You'd have to sell hundreds of millions of units just to justify the decision. They made the right choice.
Re: Nintendo's E3 Focus to Reportedly be on Wii U and 3DS, not Smart Devices or NX
I think its safe to say that DLC will be a big deal at this E3, that is my prediction and that is as far as I'm going to assume. Beyond that, we'll just have to wait and see.
Re: Updated Documents Point to Multiple amiibo Restocks for North America
Little Mac and rosalina please.
Re: Nintendo of America Apologises for amiibo Shortages and Promises More Re-Stocks
@mjc0961
I'd rather pay money for something and actually physically own it than be a sheep that buys 'digital licenses'. The amiibo I can actually own for my entire life, pass down to my grandchildren, sell to someone else. Regular DLC on the other hand is vapor, it doesn't actually exist. So yeah, keep telling people they're dumb, ya sheep.
Re: Nintendo of America Apologises for amiibo Shortages and Promises More Re-Stocks
Yeah, all the toys to life need to do reissues. I just want a little mac amiibo and a scratch skylander.
Re: Hacker Produces Region Free Exploit for Current New Nintendo 3DS System Version
@Spoony_Tech
Some games never, ever come over here unless imported.
Do you ever eat foreign food? Or enjoy foreign shows? Imagine if I came up to you while watching a foreign show and smashed your TV in and told you that you weren't allowed to watch it because it's foreign. That is what region locking is basically about.
Re: Playtonic's Project Ukulele Becomes Yooka-Laylee, Wii U Release Confirmed
I'm so glad it's a reptile as the main character.
I originally conceptualized a banjo successor staring a baby t-rex and pterasaur.
Re: Mighty No. 9 Confirmed for September Release, Along With Physical Retail Version
@Luigi21
I'm with you on this.
Re: Mighty No. 9 Confirmed for September Release, Along With Physical Retail Version
Hooboy.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Problems With Trends and Modern Media Continue to Damage Its Image
Also, in my personal experience, 'younger gamers' don't like colorful, cute games like the big N produces.
When i was a kid and when I finally upgraded to an SNES, I played Contra and Super Mario World. Contra got most of my attention because it was a meathead shoot-em-up where you kill horrific monsters. As I got older, Super Mario World became my favorite SNES game instead.
Kids don't see that logic, they just see a game where you can 'do what you want to do' and they buy it, they don't understand the artisan work that goes into making a quality game. This is why a lot of really bad game sell anyway, or why most children's movies get made into video games. They know there is that unrefined market out there.
So excuse me if I'm not on board with the idea of appealing to younger consumers.
Re: Editorial: Nintendo's Problems With Trends and Modern Media Continue to Damage Its Image
Nintendo dislikes the youtube concept because it means youtube's parent company makes huge profits from people watching their games. Not buying them.
Youtube is a double edged sword in my opinion. While it has SOLD many games to me, via watching others play them, it has also made me realize 'this isn't my kind of game' and has prevented sales too. I've seen games on youtube that I would have day-one-bought before all this information. Now I can watch the game be played, get what I need from the experience, and move on without ever purchasing it.
So I can relate to why nintendo wants to stranglehold youtube crowd.
Re: Super Mario 64 HD Triggers Surge Of YouTube Interest In Nintendo's Famous Mascot
Basically their deal with youtube is like this-- youtube makes helluva lot of money from adds. Nintendo wanted some of that money from their games being played (something they DON'T deserve, mind you, it'd be like saying the artist of a painting should have to give residuals to the guy who made his paints) and Youtube, instead of being a man about it and getting a lawyer and fighting back, they buckled and said "Fine, you can have some of the profits from the adds... SOME OF THE YOUTUBER'S PROFITS! MWAHAHAHAHAH" and its a happen ending for the rich people YAY!
Re: Nintendo 3DS System Update 9.7.0-25 Has Stability To Spare
Here is my horse, here is my stable.
Re: Talking Point: Market Expectations Remain High For Nintendo and DeNA's Smart Device Crusade
This is some birdman logic at best, this isn't going to spell success in any stretch of the imagination. The cellphone gaming market is overbloated, it'll over-inflate and then collapse in on.
It is over saturated with garbage free games that people would rather download, low tier games that took a weekend to make with cellphone games made by big companies getting lost and making almost no money.
I've seen this happen to other companies that though cellphone gaming was where the money was at, they invested all sorts of cash into it and fell flat on their faces.
Re: Rumour: More Super Smash Bros. Code Digging Points to Five Planned DLC Characters and Seven Stages
If Ryu ends up in Smash Brothers, I might boycott the series. That is such a cucumber move to put him in there, hes in enough crossover games.
Plus, generic karate guy, boring as hell. I'd rather see Goku in there, as stupid as that sounds.
Re: Diddy Kong Nerfed In Latest Super Smash Bros. Update
@DreamyViridi
I think he feels more solid now though, being weaker that is. I think it improves the strategical feel of the character. But that is just my opinion.
Re: Diddy Kong Nerfed In Latest Super Smash Bros. Update
Sonic didn't need nerfed, but diddy did.
I'm not feeling like Diddy is all that much weaker though.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Club Nintendo Mewtwo Codes and Costume DLC Now Live
@KeithTheGeek
I'm just glad you got yours, I suppose. Not sure why I always seem to get these things way late-- my significant usually gets her download codes for different nintendo promotions a day or two before me.
I hate being late to the party.
Re: Super Smash Bros. Club Nintendo Mewtwo Codes and Costume DLC Now Live
Haven't gotten my code yet, seems in the same boat as a lot of other NA players.
It's kind of nerve racking waiting on these things.
Re: Weirdness: Street Fighter's Ryu is Now Being Rumoured as Future DLC in Super Smash Bros.
Please no. For the love of god, Ryu is in everything. Oversaturated, boring martial artist.
Re: Akihiro Hino on Why Fantasy Life 2 is Not Coming to the 3DS
I call BS on this excuse.
Maybe in Japan, but here in the US it seems that only ADULTS play consoles and they hand their cellphones off to their kids.
That being stated, the reason is 'we are under the childish impression that we'll get more profit this way, but once we've poured butt loads of money into this game and release it on a platform that is overbloated with cheap games, it'll fall into obscurity, eventually lose money and the alienated fans probably wont support us through this piss poor decision".
Re: Mario Maker Japanese Website Points to Inclusion of Yoshi and, Maybe, Kuribo's Shoe
I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too excited for this.
I know this wont be for everyone, not every person LOVES the idea of making their own levels in games, but I think enough of us do exist that there should be more games like this.
Re: Capcom Announces Monster Hunter Stories for 3DS
Why are we expecting monster hunter 5 so early? We just got 4 U in the states, consider the amount of time between tri and 4... I think it is way to early to start expecting a new main-line monster hunter game.
Re: Former Rare Devs Playtonic Want Donkey Kong Country Villain K. Rool In Super Smash Bros.
I'd rather have General Scales. Aesthetically he is far more interesting while still retaining the character.
Re: Natsume Has Eight Game Boy Advance Titles Prepped For The Wii U Virtual Console
I'll buy medabots to show there is a market for them over here still.
Re: Weirdness: Super Meat Boy Is Calling For Your Votes In The Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot
No please.
Re: Fantasy Life 2 Is Skipping 3DS In Favour Of Smartphones
I remember when Suda51 did the same thing and his respective company shut down.
I wish game developers would realize that switching to cellphone gaming doesn't instantly equal success. They put all this time, money, and effort into creating a game on a platform in which people are looking for something simple like scrabble or angry birds. They aren't looking for a battery killing game like Fantasy Life.
But oh well, they put all that money and work into the game, goes out in a platform where it has to compete with ten thousand other games and barely makes any money-- they'll understand how poor their choice was.
Re: Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reckons "It Would Be Cool" if Rare's Banjo Was Voted in as Super Smash Bros. DLC
No I'm good.
As much as I love banjo, having him in smash bros as a 3rd party character would be miserable where he stands now. Maybe back in melee days before rare whored themselves out to microsoft, but now the name banjo has been tainted.
Re: Let's Educate Parents About Mature Titles, Suggests Game-Loving Teacher
I'm sneering! SNEER SNEER SNEER!
Re: Nintendo Begins Takedown Proceedings on Super Mario 64 HD Fan Project
SPOILERS
They aren't doing this to be dicks, they're doing it because they probably have something similar in the works.
Re: Yo-kai Watch Localisation Creeps Closer With Anime Confirmation for Europe
Why is this getting localized and not LBX?
Seriously, the anime is already here, I want LBX, not another turn based RPG.
Re: Talking Point: The Legend of Zelda on Wii U May Benefit From a Delay, But It Leaves a Blockbuster-Sized Gap
They'll force some other game into early release just to appease the 'blockbuster need'. Which is annoying, considering the zelda favortism.
I think it is safe to say that they'll port Pokken fighter to consoles by the end of this year.
Re: The Legend of Zelda for Wii U No Longer Set for 2015 Release
Why am I not surprised?
I mean seriously, anyone who thought a game that has shown like what... 5 minutes of collective footage (if that) was coming out this year was fooling themselves.
Re: Nintendo Boss Satoru Iwata Warns Not To Hold Your Breath For That Netflix Zelda Series
I'm going to play everyone's favorite badguy again and say it.
Animes/cartoons/movies/tv shows based on video games are a STEP DOWN. It's like relinquishing power from the player and putting it in the hands of the writers.
Not that it can't be good, it just usually isn't.
Re: Rumour: Metal Gear Creator Hideo Kojima Is Leaving Konami, But The Series Will Go On
PLEASE BE TRUE!
Never was there a more over-rated, nostalgia fueled fandom than Metal Gear.
Leave Konami and go make ZOE3 already.
Re: Nintendo Share Prices Continue to Climb in Response to DeNA and NX Announcements
Remember back when nintendo first announced they'd be doing online gaming on the DS and Wii? It fell short, it sucked, everyone was disappointed. I have a feeling their cellphone games will be the same.
Re: Sega Producer Explains Exactly What Went Wrong With Sonic Boom
The game isn't even half as bad as people said it was. I felt like it was more playable than most triple A games that get gleaming reviews.
Yeah it had problems, but a I felt the level design was solid, the mechanics were flawed, but the game could have been amazing.
And yes, not focusing on sonic's speed is A SEROIUS PROBLEM, yet Sonic Lost world sure started that 'slow sonic' cow poopy.
Re: Please Don't Hate Japan For Getting More Amazing Sega 3DS Themes
I would punch a bear in the face for that Dreamcast theme.
Re: Guide: Everything We Know So Far About Nintendo's Deal With DeNA, Smart Device Plans and More
I will go out of my way to explain that smartphone and tablet gaming is not HURTING video gaming, its just appealing to a market that would have probably NEVER BOUGHT A CONSOLE to begin with, or at least not bought it at launch.
Smart phone gaming, tablet gaming, and anything like it is a different branch all together. It would be like saying that MOVIES are going to replace books, or video games are going to replace movies.
Neither has happened.
Its not an issue of smart phones stealing customers, its an issue of smartphones making more money and nintendo/microsoft/sony all wanting a part of that action.
No, its not good business practice if you're thinking of loyal consumer bases, but it is good business practice if you're trying to make yourself rich(er).
Re: Nintendo Teases Cross-Platform Club Nintendo Successor In Conjunction With DeNA
People need to understand that 'cellphone gamers' aren't core gamers, they never represented the market as a whole to begin with. They represent people NINTENDO, MICROSOFT, and SONY wish would buy their products. As a business owner myself, I deal with this mentality all the time.
I sell collectibles and right next to me is a donut shop, the donut shop gets a hundred times more business than I do, because donuts have a bigger appeal to a wider variety of people. Sometimes I wish I sold donuts when I see the donut lady rolling in the cash-- but I also realize that going through the trouble of turning my collectible shop into a donut shop would alienate my loyal customers.
I really wish Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo would get over their 'need' to make trillions by appealing to a johnny come lately market platform and stay loyal to the people who have supported them for the last couple of decades.
Re: Video: This Harmless Exploit Will Help You Grab All Those StreetPass Puzzle Pieces
This wouldn't be too big of a deal if people were just willing to actually go to streetpass meetups where I live.
Re: Weirdness: The Mail on Sunday Still Thinks We're in the Game Boy Era
I find this hilarious.
I'd love to see the spaghetti storm of I had a news magazine and I misspelled some celeb's name or something.
Re: Talking Point: It's Time for a Nintendo Direct to Set the Agenda
@Feathered_Pilot
No. Just no.
There was nothing 'simple' about StarFox 64.
Assault was awful and it should feel awful.
Re: Two Tribes Co-Founder Doesn't Think He Would Have Bought His Own Game
I love this mentality of just appeal to a core audience and not everyone.
I wish Sega would take it with Sonic and stop trying to reinvent him every three weeks.
Just make sonic adventure 3 and say to hell with the nay sayers. High speed platforming isn't for everyone.
Re: LEGO The Hobbit DLC Trilogy Expansion No Longer Planned for Release
@sonicmeerkat
Tolkien isn't horrible, its just not nearly as good as people say.
Basically a really overbloated world war 2 euphemism that got out of control.
The only thing really memorable he did was ruin/fix elves, depending on your perspective.