Super Mario 64 HD Triggers Surge Of YouTube Interest In Nintendo's Famous Mascot

The omnipresence of Five Nights At Freddy's on Youtube is really starting to get on my nerves.

Well you can count of Nintendo to bite the hand that feeds them and shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to these fan projects. Now that they shut this down interest will go down again, just how they want it I'm sure.

...I mean, that HAS to be what they want if they keep stifling fans they way they're doing.

I'm really surprised Pokemon isn't on that list, sooooo many people post battle videos!

Just Dance seriously guys why not just go and dance for real and why is Destiny on that list?

Well, Nintendo's ignorance and fear of the internet will push things like this away. It's their loss, in the end. Would have worked as a great advertising platform

@TeeJay
Well that's just your opinion man.

@AlexSora89 Agreed. I have no problem with the game's popularity, but the unfortunate byproduct of that effect is having to see their creepy faces staring at me from the suggested thumbnail bar... I know these are fictional characters, but they're no less creepy to look at for someone who's not keen on the horror genre.

Most of those videos are just people whining and complaining with gameplay footage running in the background. Nothing too sought out or creative. At this point you may as well just upload a bunch of playthrough and talk nonsense about other company or people or report news that are at least a day or two late and it'll give you traffic for your easy revenue. Just add names like AVGN, AngryJoe, TotalBiscuit, Pewdiepie, ReviewtechUSA, Gligar9vids, Jontron, Alphaomegasin, Pat the NES Punk, Nintendo rant, Sony rant, Microsoft rant, etc., to your video response or video topic and you'll get some traffic coming through.

@outburst Me and 90% of the rest of the world bro

And this is why Nintendo's views on fan-made content are draconian and completely backwards compared to the almost every other publisher.

I'm really just repeating what I heard, but the author of that SM64 HD upload ripped assets directly from a gamecube title, and Nintendo was forced to take action because of that or lose the ability to contest other cases like this (or something similar). I'm no IP lawyer but their behavior is pretty inconsistent in cases like this, like with Mother 4.

There is a lot of chatter for HD or 3D remakes and for once, I agree with the cynics, that there is enough remakes and not enough new material. However, if there is one game that deserves the HD paintjob it's SM64, and it appears many millions of others do.

Come on Nintendo, give us what we want...Please....

This article goes really negative on Nintendo's reactions towards harmful fan projects. Not cool.
Of course there's bound to be a bunch of whiners complaining, but only because they were hoping to play an HD version of Super Mario 64 for free, which now got stopped. But nobody considers even for a second that this is simply Nintendo not risking their position in the overall market.

@DTFaux
Not only that, the fanbase has an annoying tendency to sugar-coat the killer robots' malevolent nature as "wacky animatronics" as some sort of fandom in-joke. Too bad this also results in catching lurkers off-guard with the game series' true colors, which consists in jump scares every now and then, making the games' admittedly inventive premise (making a player scared of being startled rather than scaring him or her straight away) just another wave of cheap screamer pranks, right after Youtube was almost wiped clean of those (courtesy of the frame thumbnails in each video's own time bar).

A bunch of trash clouding the top 20. No wonder I never find any game related videos that seem cool on there.

And this is why people call Nintendo dumb for putting any obstacles in the way of Youtubers. Are they well within their rights? Of course, but they're cheating themselves out of much needed exposure.

I hope Nintendo don't try to take down all the fan videos. If these videos didn't exist, then less people would be talking about Super Mario 64 right now. Nintendo could do with as many people as possible talking about their games to different people.

@Kaze_Memaryu

Yet this project put Super Mario on a list it has never been in before garnering Nintendo a lot of free exposure for their IP. Nintendo IS draconian with some of their policies regardless of their right to be as such.
They didn't shut down a free version of their game. They shut down a tech demo that used some of their 3D models.
People like to make the excuse that if they don't protect their IP they will lose the ability to do so in future cases which is patently false. Yet Mother 4 is ignored.

Nintendo has been triggered

@Vanya If a game steals assets, it has no right to exist, tech demo or not.
If the creator really wanted to show his skills, he could've made anything that isn't a blatant copyright infringement, especially since he seems to already know how to create his own assets - simply making a game engine with self-made content is really not asking for much. And as I stated before, this may be only a tech demo, but it's still dangerous for any plans Nintendo could possibly have with Super Mario 64.
Also, Mother 4 is a fangame, not a copy of an existing game, so that argument is completely off.

It's almost like passionate fans discussing and promoting a product actually give it more visibility and popularity in the community. Who would've guessed?

Basically their deal with youtube is like this-- youtube makes helluva lot of money from adds. Nintendo wanted some of that money from their games being played (something they DON'T deserve, mind you, it'd be like saying the artist of a painting should have to give residuals to the guy who made his paints) and Youtube, instead of being a man about it and getting a lawyer and fighting back, they buckled and said "Fine, you can have some of the profits from the adds... SOME OF THE YOUTUBER'S PROFITS! MWAHAHAHAHAH" and its a happen ending for the rich people YAY!

@AugustusOxy that is nowhere near close enough to a similar situation. People showing videos of copyrighted intellectual properties in a public domain without prior consent AND making money from advertising during the airing of that content is the same as; Putting on your own production of the lion king at your local theatre and charging for drinks and snacks then wondering why disney kick your door down. Copyright is statute law. If you infringe on that copyright; not only that, you profit from it, you deserve every court you get your arse kicked round for being so conceited and deluded self importance, for thinking you have every "right" to do what you are doing.

I don't care either way, this doesn't apply to nintendo solely, it is ALL copyrighted material. The fact nintendo fail to see this as free marketing for them is besides the point. Legally, they are 100% right in what they are doing and their approach.
Thinking outside the box on this one may have steered them a different way though.

@AugustusOxy
Your analogy and every analogy similar to it is incorrect and belittles what games actually are. The plan is the equivalent of paying a studio royalties for using their music. Now you remixed and edit it and whatever, but what you remixed and edited was made by someone else. You'd have nothing with which to make money with had you not used their works (games in general, not specifically Nintendo). Their games are not tools with which to create something new, it's a completed product that someone more or less adds their own thing onto as well. Yeah it's hard making a video, but I'd assume making a game that you make a video about is probably a lil harder.

Also the reason we have this system is cause people ran around uploading movies to Youtube Viacom was threatening suit and Youtube created the auto detect program thing. Legally speaking, if YouTube didn't do this, it's quite possible the site would have been shut the hell down or at least sued to the extent it'd become even worse over all.

The reality is, basically their program works like this: Nintendo wants royalties for people making money using their games.

It's their right to so arguments against it are moot. YouTubers all the time get upset if someone take their video and upload it somewhere else for monetization without their permission (and justifiably so). However, Viacom was willing to sue YouTube to make them stop sharing movies. Music and movie companies are willing to copyright strike your channel to hell and back for uploading their music and monetizing, or sometimes for reviewing their movies in a way they don't like. Nintendo is just asking for royalties for their work.

Nintendo is treating a bunch of adults who want to act like children, like businessmen, and they're apparently not ready to act like businessmen considering the butthurtedness everyone's having for having to actually follow rules of the world you exist in. Heaven save us all there are rules to follow with your job that you chose to get into cause you assumed you'd never have to follow any rules you didn't like.

TLDR;
What @DESS-M-8 said

So, tell me, NintendoLife staff, who see no problem whatsoever with that Mario64-"Demo", would it be alright, if I took your articles and your screenshots and used them on my own blog to promote my talents as a videogame journalist? If you have no problem with that HD-thingy, surely you would have no objection now, would you?

@Lycidas
What kinda question is that? Of course they wouldn't mind. After all your blog using these articles are transformative and nothing at all like the original. People read NintendoLife staff works for their opinions, but they go to your blog for how you present them. And you're trying to promote yourself as a journalist. They just want to talk about whatever's going on with Nintendo and stuff. Plus you'd be promoting them so they probably want you to go ahead with the master plan man.

@Kaze_Memaryu Wouldn't get any exposure doing that. As it stands somebody who decides they want a mobile game in that style knows this guy can produce what they want. Good business decision. (The likelyhood of actually losing money is low judging by past actions etc).

Beating this dead horse again I see. Nearly everyone here defending Nintendo because they are within their legal rights. What's so wrong with this? I'd imagine anyone who went to the effort to create a hd sm64 is a bigger fan than commenters on NL.This wasn't going to hurt nintendo at all. This was free to play and not being sold for a price. Nintendo's marketing has failed to create any buzz lately and many saw this as a positive fan made project that would gain some much needed attention. I remember all the hate on here when anyone brought up Nintendo games being on smart phone devices and it seems nearly everyone is ok with it now. Some people will defend NOJ and the mistakes they make no matter what.

God I would play the crap out of this if it was on the eShop.

@unrandomsam He would, if his tech demo was really impressive. Instead, he piggybacked off of Mario's fame, and that wasn't gonna end well by any means.

Minecraft and FNAF over Mario? Ugh. I just can't...

To those who might think it was bad for Nintendo to take down the tech demo because of this, they had every damn right to do so. The creator used models that were from Super Mario Galaxy 2, and if he had actually made the models himself, then it wouldn't have been a problem. The reason something like Mother 4 is okay is because the sprites were made from the ground-up by the development team. Here, the guy who made the tech demo just stole some models that weren't his.
@DBPirate I know...I know.

Would anyone care to explain how the heck this would help Nintendo?

See? Free advertising. I was telling this to so many people and yet everyone is trying to damage control and make excuses for Nintendo.

Also, I feel this is necessary to say whenever YouTube and Nintendo videos are brought up. Because Nintendo is in their legal rights to do such HORRENDOUS decisions doesn't mean they should be doing this. Let's not forget that there are developers that do give the their fans the right to do upload videos of their games and encourage them 'cause, you know, that's an option too.

@ShadyKnights Please explain how arguments against this idiotic business decision are moot? Because It's in their rights? Oh well, when Nintendo was going to remove the Smash stream at EVO 2013, guess it was stupid of us to go against them because, y'know, they can do this.

Also, you do realize that developers can also give their fans permission to use their work. Alas, again, Nintendo proves that it can't business very well and have to get some of that cash. Would like to see that sort of reaction people would have if EA did this.

Also, there are rules to follow? If Let's plays are remixes than it falls under fair use. And just for good measure, tell that to the people who cry like real babies when Nintendo gets sent to court over patent infringement.

@mjc0961 Not too sure if Nintendo can't do this but I certainly know that it is a bad decision that will bite them in the donkey hard. Whilst other devs like rockstar simply give permission, Nintendo feels the need to come up with this pointless, divisive program.

Even when people like Dan Adelman, who has worked in Nintendo for years, comes out and says that Nintendo is stuck in the past, there are still people who argue for, and defend Nintendo.
Times have changed, they need to adapt to how things are done now.

@EngieBengie Agreed. I've heard that NOA&NOE don't have much say on how they run their respective branches. I think it's a bit arrogant on iwata's part to think he understands market/consumer differences in the us or Europe.

Super Mario 64 HD Nintendo...make it happen since you shut this guy's dreams down the pipes.

@EngieBengie Let me ask you something. Why does a fan project garner so many views...whereas let's plays and ads for actual Mario games get nothing? How is a fan project "free advertising"? Who is watching these fan projects? Why are they watching them? Is this really so straightforward?

@mjc0961 Fist off, look up copyright infringement. You misused the term completely. Second, how is this "fair use"? The authors of this software pulled assets directly from copyrighted games without any sort of change for the purpose of distribution to others. This is actually not fair use at all. Granted fair use is actually determined by judges as it differs from case to case, which does apply to your point about not being able to afford these cases. However, on that note, there is no guarantee of victory even if they do go to court.

Again, where is the free advertisement? Mario is a well known character already, so why does some fan project get so much attention when it's unofficial and has little to do with the series? On that note, how will this lead to sales...for a product that doesn't exist?

@TingLz Out of curiosity for an HD remake of a classic. People who are fans or just gamers watch these sorts of projects. Plenty of existing fans are now wanting an HD version of Mario 64. Admittedly, it ain't straightforward and you make a good point that Mario is already famous. However games like Splatoon and older and lesser know titles like Earthbound do benefit from such exposure. Mario, not so much.

@AlexSora89

I have to agree. I don't have anything against the games, but the obsession with them is bordering Justin Bieber rabid fanaticism.

I don't understand Nintendo's way of thinking on this matter.

I am amazed the kind of phenomenon Minecraft is after all these years. How could Nintendo let that pass by?!

@EngieBengie
Sorry for late response, had homework to contend with for the past few days.

Anyway, just because the consumer wants something doesn't make it smart for a company to give it to them. Not saying that they should always ignore consumers as the Evo thing is certainly a nice bit of fun for everyone, but they're may be things we the consumer may not see or understand. Just calling it stupid just cause we don't see that does not remove he relevance. And until we know the reasons behind it rather than just throwing suppositions, arguments against what some of us may want are moot because information is lacking.

There's nothing wrong with asking for more, but it's quite assholish to demand what you want while ignoring what the company may want. As assholish as it would be for them to completely ignore the consumers which they don't do. The best thing for everyone to do is to find an equilibrium where everyone can be happy. Sometimes that means both sides won't quite get everything they want, but isn't that how all relationships work? You find a happy medium?

The fair us and whatever is nice and al, but YouTubes rules are what Youtubers must adhere to. They say Nintendo is within their rights so follow Nintendo's rules and shush. Hell expand those rules by working with them and presenting calm, well argues points and compromise rather than name calling, petulant whining, and demanding you (the YouTuber, not you while I'm replying to) have everything while also decrying how you are more helpful to them than they are to you. That just reeks of entitlement and self delusion.

Considering Nintendo seems to have finally shut Phillips up with that whole joint patent thing so it looks like they followed the rules and succeeded... Almost like adults running a business or something...

I just want to know what the heck Just Dance is doing there?

@ShadyKnights seriously? The consumers can be dumb argument again? Leaving out the possibility of companies also being dumb? In a Nintendo related article? I'm not trying to act like we consumers can't be wrong but here's the kicker, Analysts, journalists, fans of Nintendo and fans of the competitors are all complaining about Nintendo right now. Hell, Dan Adelman, a freaking Nintendo employer that worked there for years, realizes that Nintendo is stuck in the past. Simply put, in this case, Nintendo are the ones being dumb, not the consumer. And Nintendo being an ENTERTAINMENT company, yeah, we can ask them what the hell we want. They depend on us and not vice versa. Regarding the EVO thing, no. Just no. Arguments aren't moot against what they did. Whatever the reason was, it sure was stupid because now they're sponsors to fix the crap they made.

There's nothing assholish to want something from an entertainment company, they live to entertain. That simple. All they want is money and as long as they make money they're good. Nothing that hard to understand here. Nintendo's dumb decision making however keeps them losing their faithful fans so there's a problem and it's a fact. So them, being a business dependant on fans where the competitors (Sony and Microsoft) are actively giving their fans what they want and listen to their complaints, they need to either listen and adapt or die as a gaming business. It's not the 80s or 90s anymore where Nintendo exercised a monopoly, I now have the choice to support Microsoft, Sony or Steam if I'm displeased with Nintendo and even use emulators to play their games without giving them a penny. so yeah.

''They say Nintendo is within their rights so follow Nintendo's rules and shush'' I'm far from being a sheep who just blindly follows what Nintendo does if I know for a fact that the decision they make is a bad one. Let's not forget the government can screw you over if they so wish (raising taxes and whatnot) and make it the law. So, you see, shushing is not an option for me. Not to mention Nintendo wants full control over the content these fans produce and the terms are beyond unreasonable. So it's not baseless petulant whining when someone disagrees with the obviously unfair terms, because, you know, the ad revenue isn't the only thing to this program. Is it entitlement and self delusion to have to delete all your freaking videos that aren't on the whitelist to enter the program so you can profit from videos? You know the answer, I know the answer and it's ''No''.

Yet, they lost to Tomita technologies.

@EngieBengie
Yes seriously. With all due respect man you're very hostile and overly sensitive about this topic and you're kinda setting the example of what I mean when I say why companies don't really take consumers seriously. I understand your reasons and points, but I also attempt to understand the company's position as I see it objectively and objectively it's not all that bad. Nintendo is not the only company content identifying these things and they are trying some way to work with the Youtubers. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. Same as it's nothing wrong with the devs who still content ID their games as well.

The problem is people are calling for Nintendo to change and treating them as if they are the only ones not doing so when the opposite is more true. More true.

I'll not, and am not, argue that the copyright thing could and should be improved as I feel all laws need to be simplified to avoid getting innocently intended people into trouble, but I think that those who create certain properties should have as much control over their own properties as they want cause they made it. Changing what someone made doesn't really make it yours in my eyes as your work is built off another's. If they gave you no permission to do so then I feel it is only proper to respect those wishes. I feel that is how decent and respectable professionals should behave.

I cannot take any of these examples of voiced of decent seriously, just on a personal level, due to how frequently they are wrong. Call for Nintendo to adapt ignores how Nintendo has pushed the industry forward with shoulder buttons, analogue sticks, touch screen game play, wireless controllers, native multiple controllers on consoles, and people want them to conform? Claims Nintendo is dying when they are the second strongest financially while selling the worst console wise and not by a sales margin equal to that of the gulf between PS4 and Wii U sales, but actually closer. XBOne needs to do well else there's a very real chance the XBox brand will be dropped off Microsoft's boat, Sony needs the PS4 to do well else the company may very well die, Nintendo is expanding to mobile and other markets and Nintendo is the one that's in trouble? These people complain Nintendo is loosing relevancy, yet it's on everyone's tongue which actually contradicts this.

No one wants to talk about how the unpopularity for the Wii U is actually good for the consumers. Sure we get fewer games right now due to third party lack of interest, but what must Nintendo do in order to keep our interest? Give us more games that, generally, they would have the ability to hold out on a little longer or not take a risk on due to gamers having other things to play. Hence Star Fox is coming to us this year. There's a respectable chance we'll hear of Metroid and F-Zero as well given how Nintendo loves to tease and taunt before announcements and I'd call F-Zero race track in MK8 and Captain Falcon's introduction with Lucina and the Bayonetta's costumes a very clear tease for what's to come. But no, everyone wants to jump on the negativity bandwagon and parrot one another rather than actually be positive. As if that's something to be ashamed of or as if positivity equals ignorance. Well fie on all such nonsense I say

@ShadyKnights This is the second time that you tell me that the customer can be wrong and the second time you leave the possibility of Nintendo also being the dumb ones. Also, for someone who said that I am hostile (Cussing isn't automatically hostile behavior) and that in our previous encounter criticized me for being to one sided, you sure don't hold back calling the content creators whiny and entitled when they have very good reasons to hate this program ie: The unfair terms. You can try and put yourself in Nintendo's shoes all you want, the fact remains Nintendo is thirsty for control and go outright paranoid if they don't have this control. It was clear since the NES era where they exercised a monopoly. They're pretty much like an overprotective mom. They think they are doing right but truly are doing wrong.

Whatever your view of someone should behave regarding these issues, you aren't seeing how things are being done these days. These days, developers do give their fans permission to post their work on youtube and monetize it and this happens more and more these days. You know, because giving your fans permission is also an option and at least one that isn't gonna cause such arguments among Nintendo fans. And I'll enforce the point I've presented last comment yet again: because you make a law doesn't mean it is 100% right. The government can raise taxes if they so wish and it would be in their right. Doesn't mean the people protesting against this are complete donkey hats. Same exact thing for Nintendo's Youtube Program.

"Call for Nintendo to adapt ignores how Nintendo has pushed the industry forward with shoulder buttons, analogue sticks, touch screen game play, wireless controllers, native multiple controllers on consoles, and people want them to conform?" Yes, they should conform. All these things are things that happened in the past. Your past achievements aren't gonna do the work for you. The present and future is the one thing that should matter to you. What is happening in the present? They made the Wii U GamePad, a bulky controller that isn't even used to its full potential. Most of the best games on Wii U don't make use of it and already they're planning new control schemes for the NX when they haven't even scratched the surface of how the GamePad can be used. The kicker? Sony and Microsoft aren't even using this new control scheme. Nintendo's past achievements are exactly that, past achievements. Sony isn't dying as you claim they are granted the PS4 is doing exceptionally well and is not showing signs of stopping. Whatever Nintendo's financial status is, if your consoles don't sell, they don't sell. Pure and simple. They don't have to go bankrupt to realize that consoles aren't profitable and drop them. And unless you've been living under a rock, Nintendo is hardly relevant these days. In comparison to the PS4, the Xbox One, the PC, Nintendo is just... there. Sure, they make great games but business is business and if you don't sell. RIP. SEGA wasn't on the edge of bankruptcy when they killed the Dreamcast.

Ah, and third parties. Nintendo's failure to keep third parties interested in their console. A company whose main focus are games... losing more developers and thus more games. You had one job. Now they're left alone. What they should've been doing is opening more studios. Are they doing this? No. And since you like to get into Nintendo's shoes, get into the shoes of the the developers who have the weight of the world on their back and have to make sure the games they make are amazing. Tell me I'm wrong here. Metroid will most likely come back. F-Zero? Miyamoto said it clear as crystal that they aren't making one until they have the proper controller for it. And that's not me being negative here. That's straight from Miyamoto.

@EngieBengie
And again your hostility proves my point. You, again, ignore the meaning behind what I have said and only wish to see that I acknowledge that Nintendo can be wrong when I never state they couldn't be. I should not have to because everyone already feels that they are and can be, so that is a known to the customer. What is an unknown to the customer, are the customer's actions, behavior and responsibilities to themselves, which I believe I have addressed... decently. I know I tend to get wordy and what not, lol.

And no, I don't take swearing for hostility, I am an adult. I just meant the over all tone of how you respond to me is quite hostile. You don't really reply as if you're trying to understand any point of view save your own and all and the way you initiated this conversation with me in general was via sarcasm and condescension. Generally this method of conversing with people is used to ignite a person's temper rather than engage with an enlightened back and forth conversation, during which both parties can agree to disagree, or attempt to meet each other in the middle.

And yes, I stand by my statements of Youtubers because I believe in the rights of content creators. And does not Nintendo create content? I have seen articles of modders and Youtubers get very upset for people taking their content and treating it as their own and I feel they have every right to be so indignant. I just so happen to feel Nintendo and any other game dev also has that right. Just because they are a company doesn't mean they are denied some level of respect.

Conformality is the best way to be lost in the mire that is obscurity. Only those who have no idea what they want to do, or back bone to stand out, or are genuinely happy with their place conform. Genius stands out and makes it's own way, as does talent, and as do the successful. And success is not always measured in finances, though Nintendo is quite secure in that as well.

And you misunderstand how profits work within the gaming industry and where things lay. Ten years ago Sony was worth $100 billion. Now they're around $10 billion give or take. Last year around January, during another Wii U "drought", Nintendo was reported to be worth more than the entirety of Sony. Sony is closing divisions left and right while Nintendo is expanding as I previously stated. Console sales don't mean as much as they used to. Especially when Nintendo has two consoles that are selling at a profit (one clearly more than the other, but still both are selling) while Sony only has one that is and another that is lain by the way side. Also, the Xbox brand has only cost Microsoft money since they entered gaming consoles. I believe last reports were around it costing the company $2 billion. They never made a profit on it and with them cutting XBOne console prices, they likely will continue that trend.

As I said, Nintendo's Wii U's (just the Wii U) profits are comparable to Sony's even with their giant PS4 sales numbers. That really shouldn't be if console sales were all that important, but they no longer are with Sony and Microsoft paying third parties to put games on their consoles. Paying them eats up profits and Nintendo refusing to do so, means they get to enjoy more profits from fewer games. Simple math really.

And the fact that anyone is surprised about Nintendo working on a new console now and thinks this means they are giving up on the Wii U is laughable and proves how many people have such little understanding of the industry even though Nintendo and others explained this is what all companies do, work on new product once the first is out the door. They generally just stall on announcing it, but due to the whole expansion into mobile thing, Iwata wanted to make sure people wouldn't ignorantly assume they were leaving the console space. Can't blame him for willful ignorance. Sony likely immediately went to work to make a system that wouldn't bankrupt them during launch after the PS3 was released (paid off well) and Microsoft, hopefully, looked into developing one that wouldn't break from you playing games too much on it after so many 360s rung red. And Nintendo is very likely trying to make something that goes hand in hand with home console and hand held with whatever new console or product they're coming out with.

And your analogy of Nintendo having one job is quite inaccurate. They have roughly two. Make consoles for their and other dev's games, put their games on said console. They are a gaming company that likes to make consoles to play their games and new ways to play those games. They've accomplished that quite well. It's the third parties who have the choice to join or not and they've been given most of what they wanted, but have left due to, and this is from what many of them claim, not being able to compete against Nintendo's games. That sounds more like they do their job a little too well for competition's sake than failing to do anything. And Miyamoto stated F-Zero would need a different control interface would could be anything from, as you stated, a new controller to better utilization of the gamepad. He also stated that he cannot thing of a way to make it fun which doesn't mean we are not getting one, but could mean they're thinking of letting someone else give it a shot. The fact that they acknowledge F-Zero so much lately yet say nothing of a return is quite similar to Majora's Mask 3D before it's announcement.

lol, I don't think devs have the weight of the world on their backs, merely that their fan base is a little insane and petulant at times. Generally, they're the company to make fun of because they choose to be different even if their differences work for them. I can respect that is all. I also respect consumers wanting more from them cause it's fair to want more, but to demand is quite disrespectful and I don't stand with for or with that. Just like when people were demanding Bayonetta 2 come to PS4 and XB0ne even though Nintendo funded the game. Even then people felt they had no right to keep that game from it's "true fans". That doesn't seem insane to anyone else?

I believe people forget that a company looks at the world from a position many of us with never see in our life times. All we can do is glimpse at what it may be like, but only few of us will know. And I feel the best way to know is by attempting to understand, which I try to do is all. Considering I'm still going to college to be a game developer I feel that is a healthy and wise decision for me, to be as empathetic with both parties as I can be.

What hostility are you talking about? lol. As far as I'm concerned, the customer buys what he cares for, making Nintendo some cash. If they make something I don't care about or something that I think is stupid and do not want to support, it is the customer's right to just not buy it. We tell them what we want, they give us what we want, we give them money and they make money. They're a business, making money is their goal don't know why you keep giving me this customer behavior stuff.

Hostility was the last thing I was going for. I simply believe in my position, I believe in my arguments and when I know that Nintendo is shooting themselves in the foot, I call em out. That simple.

You cannot say that you are being objective if you can't put yourself in the youtubers shoes. You're doing this with Nintendo and you should do this with the Youtubers. Let's not forget that it's just the ad revenue that is the problem, it's also the terms themselves. And it's not like every youtuber against this are condescending. They too raise excellent arguments. And also, no one is denying them respect for making youtube videos. Would a fan be making Nintendo let's plays if he didn't like them? No. They're doing this because they like your games so if you're just going to give them a lesser deal than they used to have and have your hands around their collars as far what they can and can't do, then yes, you are going to get hate. The mere fact that even some of the most loyal fans of Nintendo are having an issue with this is a red alert, especially considering that they are going through their toughest generation yet.

"And you misunderstand how profits work within the gaming industry and where things lay. Ten years ago Sony was worth $100 billion. Now they're around $10 billion give or take." gaming industry but you take this from Sony as a whole. The only reason Nintendo is so rich is because they charge their consoles more than they are worth. Not to mention instead of using the money they made from the Wii era to make the Wii U a strong powerful, third party friendly console, they just opted for the same blue ocean strategy. Also things like the whole Pokemon 1 and pokemon 2, with the complete pokemon3 coming out the next year and then remake pokemon 0. Playstation gives the fans what they ask for. The PS3 started out badly but took the criticism and became easily the best console of last gen. Ain't too sure about the xbox. Don't forget that Sony is more than just gaming. Their Playstation devision is profiting and in this discussion, that's what matters.

And whatever you say about the PS4, the PS4 is at least the powerful console fans wanted it to be, with new IPs and third party support. It's nice that Nintendo has money but if they don't do anything with it, there's nothing to be excited over.

Meh, some people are dumb and just don't know that development for nextgen systems start almost immediately after the current one is released.

I think you took the "you had one job" literally. This is a meme but a meme used to show that even though Nintendo is primarily a gaming company, they could not hold the third parties for long which shows they aren't doing a good job. And not all of them stopped supporting Nintendo because they can't compete. If that was the case, the GameCube and Wii would be like the Wii U and have no third parties. Some like Bethesda just didn't like the controller or whatever they said, others simply found the system too weak. Regarding F-Zero, understand that I WANT a new F-Zero, freaking love the series. However, far too many times have I been wrong for thinking that something cool will happen (Rayman leak being fake, Nintendo buying Atlus which didn't happen, etc). I simply am waiting solid evidence that such a thing will happen. If Miyamoto said what he said, then, for me, there is no reason to be excited. I simply don't want to be disappointed again.

What I meant was that now that third parties are gone, they have to make sure that each game they make is a great one to make the customer's purchase worth it. This is quite stressful.

You can try and see things from the point of view but Dan Adelman, an employee for years, has said that there are decisions taken by top executives that alienate other executives.