I always thought that Tomb Raider: Anniversary was an unknown masterpiece on the Nintendo Wii. But at this point I'm not interested in going that far back in time again. I've paid my dues already.
I've played all the new Tomb Raider games on Steam, but I'd much rather play them on Switch.
They'd better not F over those of us who buy physical. The next platform could retain the Switch's cartridge format... there's no technical reason they'd need to change it. You can easily shove 2TB of game data storage into the size format using the same design and pin-out.
Not ideal, but at least it means it's not a "cloud" game. And I'd still take this over a sheet of paper with download codes... then you lose all the benefits of getting a physical game.
It does mean the cart is effectively just a physical license key, but you can still share/trade/resell that for as long as the Nintendo servers are online.
So basically taking the "forts" out of "Fortnite"?
I tried Fortnite and wanted to build but couldn't... things were too chaotic and fast-paced. In the battle-royale setting it's all about rapidly taking out other people... there's no time to build, let alone LEARN to build for someone just getting started.
Fine, take out building and change the name. Meanwhile, bring back "Save the World" for those of us who WANT to learn this building thing without getting killed 5 seconds after spawning every time.
Astounding how many hypocrites will voice agreement with this article, yet have no problem ushering in this sort of world by buying digital instead of physical, as well as cheering on "cloud" gaming.
I welcome long games. But any "cloud" game is dead to me. Put in the dev effort or don't bother. Other devs have proven your excuses to be hollow and lame.
This CAN come to Switch if the devs are willing to put in the effort. But if it comes as a "cloud" version, then it's dead to me. I don't subscribe to that anti-consumer BS... "cloud" gaming is an anathema to gaming as a whole.
R.I.P. the days where devs actually cared about quality on release date and what went on the cartridge was a playable, almost bug-free game. I almost wish that only the digital version was released on the official release day, and then the physical version was delayed a few months so that the digital crowd could beta-test the game for the lazy dev and the physical version could get the patched game.
Remember when the games on a cartridge were actually good, functional, and complete? And relatively bug-free? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
The apologists for day-1 patching devs are infuriating and depressing. Our physical carts are becoming nothing more than physical DRM keys for downloaded games, and will become worthless once the servers are gone.
I used to go to arcades all the time too. I had the choice to play Mortal Kombat and Shinobi in the arcade, but I could also (and did) buy the games for a home console. I had a choice.
When some lazy dev releases a "cloud" version of a game on Switch instead of a proper native/local version, that's the ONLY version of the game they make available on Switch. I don't have a choice.
If I could choose between a full/local edition of Resident Evil 7 or Dying Light 2 on the Switch, and the "cloud" edition, your argument and comparison to arcades would hold up. But I can't, so it doesn't.
And @Screen said it well. If fricken DOOM can play on the Switch, then these other games could be ported and optimized to provide an adequate non-cloud experience. Another good example is Hellblade.
I don't care how "flawed" the reviewers try to claim the game is. I played this back at PAX East last year and fell in love, so when it went on sale around xmas I picked it up and all the DLC. I think it's a really fun time.
The only thing more insulting than the fact that we have yet to have folders or themes, is Nintendo's absolute silence and refusal to explain why we don't have folders or themes.
The people countering with the fact that THEY themselves haven't experienced this are pointless noise.
I've never gone bald, so clearly baldness doesn't exist.
On the other hand, I had to send in two of my joycons for drift, and one of my Pro controllers due to ghost D-pad triggers. Nintendo fixed/replaced all at no charge, and fast.
All those of you claiming there's "no point" now really don't get the benefits of physical to begin with.
1) You can loan out the cartridge to friends/family, or share a single game cartridge among multiple Switches 2) You can re-sell the game later if you beat it or stop having fun playing it and would rather recoup some money to put towards a new game.
Regardless of patches or extra downloads, the physical cartridge allows you to do these things. A digital download does not. Yes it's annoying to have to download and use space on the MicroSD card, and devs really need to stop this BS and shell out for the larger-capacity cartridges. But it's only a trivial nuisance compared to the main benefits of buying physical.
Only recover saves ones? I've had to get my Wii repaired twice.
And no transfer to a new Switch? Sorry, if I have to choose between paying AC and being able to upgrade to a "Switch Pro" or some other updated model, I'm skipping AC.
The rest of you can enjoy spending 2 years investing in a town only to lose it all. Not my idea of fun.
Those complaining that this would fragment the games market should really read earlier comments before complaining. It's already been explain how this could/would be easily avoided.
The way this works without fragmenting the market is for the "Switch Pro" to have a built-in 1080p screen and now games played portably play at the same performance as they used to docked.
On top of that, maybe make the screen OLED. Increasing the built-in internal storage is a no-brainer. Considering it's already an internally-removable module I don't get why they haven't done it already. It'd just mean putting in a larger module... the main Switch PCB remains the same.
Other wishlist items would be a better, more-durable stand, bluetooth headphone support, and bigger battery.
In Nintendo's defense: this appears to us a mesh-fiber tip, which is more durable than the rubber tips on cheapo styli but does make a stylus cost more.
This is super dorky and ridiculous. And I'll be buying it anyway. I'd still like a proper "Switch Fit". I still think the Wii Balance Board was slick and the perfect device for that kind of experience (and snowboarding with it was perfect and so much fun). Make it work with the Switch... I still have mine.
This is super dorky and ridiculous. And I'll be buying it anyway. I'd still like a proper "Switch Fit". I still think the Wii Balance Board was slick and the perfect device for that kind of experience (and snowboarding with it was perfect and so much fun). Make it work with the Switch... I still have mine.
"And as much as we love physical media here at Nintendo Life, there seems to be no denying that the future is all digital."
You know, the more you parrot this nonsense, the more you work to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe if everyone didn't just throw up the white-flag on day one we wouldn't be ushering in the demise of retro gaming, sharing games and the used market so quickly. Gamers are shooting themselves in the foot and ruining the future all for the sake of impatience and laziness.
You'd think as more and more houses become multi-Switch houses, especially with the Switch Lite, that people would wise up and realize one of the many benefits of having a physical cartridge that you can just buy once and share.
It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who ONLY play their Switch in handheld mode and never docked to a TV. Switch games look AMAZING at 1080p on a big screen... even my 75". Handheld-only users are really missing out on an expanded experience.
Switch Lite is a bad deal and overpriced. A non-Switching "Switch", handicapped in too many ways, lacking user-repairability of the most-damaged part by virtue of (non)removable joy-cons. And the biggest inexcusable travesty? The inability to dock or in any way connect to a TV and truly be worthy of the name "Switch". I can see not including the dock, but NOT preventing TV-out entirely. Nintendo are being real dicks by saving a whopping $0.10 on the chip necessary to send video out the USB-C port (not making up the figure, that's the cost of the chip in qty from Alibaba. Max I saw was $1.50).
This is sad. And pathetic. I really enjoyed Ys VIII on the Switch, even if it wasn't as polished as XC2. I would like to see newer/better versions of what NF could put out, if they could wean themselves off from Sony's teat. I only play on Nintendo consoles and will never be buying a Playstation or XBox.
I won't buy a Mini, but I welcome anything that increases Nintendo's fanbase and helps the company become more popular and profitable. That only helps us all as it encourages more devs to make more games.
What I WOULD be interested in would be a "Switch Pro" (or whatever). Nintendo has to be careful with the Mini or the Pro not to fragment the games or accessories, but there are things that could safely be done on the Pro:
OLED display
More built-in storage
Increased performance that allows handheld mode to perform as well as docked mode
And yet game developers and publishers will continue to snub the Switch, claiming that it's a minor market player that lacks a significant enough userbase to port their games to.
I think the jerk publishers pulling this BS and not just putting a full, complete, non-beta version of the game on a suitably-size cartridge need far more public shaming than this box art accomplishes.
The pro-digital people in these comments insulting those who want physical and giving reasons that the pro-physical people are wrong/stupid really demonstrate that they don't get it at all why the pro-physical people want physical cartridges.
Most the times, the reasons that the pro-digital folks THINK the pro-physical are the way they are... aren't the actual reasons.
If you're game isn't done, don't fricken release it. If we buy a physical cartridge, we want the game on the cartridge in working form. We're not looking to buy a physical DRM key for a digitally-downloaded game, but that's what cartridges are turning into.
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Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Tomb Raider I-III Remastered
I always thought that Tomb Raider: Anniversary was an unknown masterpiece on the Nintendo Wii. But at this point I'm not interested in going that far back in time again. I've paid my dues already.
I've played all the new Tomb Raider games on Steam, but I'd much rather play them on Switch.
Re: Nintendo Accounts To "Help Ease" Next-Gen Transition, According To Doug Bowser
@jco83 I know, the point I was trying to make is that lack of capacity cannot be a reason for not continuing with the Switch cartridge format.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (October 21st)
I recently beat Xenoblade Chronicles 3 so now I'm working through the Future Redeemed DLC.
Re: Nintendo Accounts To "Help Ease" Next-Gen Transition, According To Doug Bowser
They'd better not F over those of us who buy physical. The next platform could retain the Switch's cartridge format... there's no technical reason they'd need to change it. You can easily shove 2TB of game data storage into the size format using the same design and pin-out.
Re: Switch Online's 'Missions & Rewards' Adds Super Mario Bros. Wonder Icons
Because more icons is so high on the list of additional features that Nintendo Switch owners have been crying for.
Re: Limited Run Games Showcase To Feature "20+ New Digital And Physical Announcements"
I'm still bitter I capitulated and bought Alien Isolation digitally, only to have LR come out with a physical version.
At least I held out on Doom Eternal.
Re: Batman Arkham Trilogy For Switch Only Includes One Title On The Game Cartridge
@Warioware It means you can trade, share, loan and resell your games. Even if the cartridge is just a physical DRM key effectively.
Re: Batman Arkham Trilogy For Switch Only Includes One Title On The Game Cartridge
Not ideal, but at least it means it's not a "cloud" game. And I'd still take this over a sheet of paper with download codes... then you lose all the benefits of getting a physical game.
It does mean the cart is effectively just a physical license key, but you can still share/trade/resell that for as long as the Nintendo servers are online.
Re: Lara Croft's Tomb Raider Switch Spin-Offs Have Been Delayed To 2023
We had Tomb Raider: Anniversary on the Wii, for !%$#% sake's.
If we can have a myriad of Assassin's Creed games on the Switch, we can have a proper Tomb Raider.
Re: Poll: A Plague Tale: Requiem - Cloud Version Is Out Today On Switch, Will You Be Getting It?
Any "cloud" game is dead to me and might as well not exist.
Re: Video: YouTuber's Switch OLED Screen Still Standing After 7,000 Hours
@WallyWest it's worth it just to get the "burn-in" FUD BS people to STFU.
Re: Here's Your First Look At Netflix's New Castlevania Series
You know what would interest me more than this?
Netflix on the Switch.
Re: Madison Is The Kind Of Horror Game You'll Need Brown Trousers For, Coming To Switch Soon
The whole "haunted house with nothing more than a camera" template is getting overused.
Re: Rumour: Fortnite Might Be Getting A Permanent 'No-Build' Mode
So basically taking the "forts" out of "Fortnite"?
I tried Fortnite and wanted to build but couldn't... things were too chaotic and fast-paced. In the battle-royale setting it's all about rapidly taking out other people... there's no time to build, let alone LEARN to build for someone just getting started.
Fine, take out building and change the name. Meanwhile, bring back "Save the World" for those of us who WANT to learn this building thing without getting killed 5 seconds after spawning every time.
Re: Soapbox: A Week After Jailing One Pirate, Nintendo Just Made Piracy A Reality For Countless Fans
Astounding how many hypocrites will voice agreement with this article, yet have no problem ushering in this sort of world by buying digital instead of physical, as well as cheering on "cloud" gaming.
Re: Dying Light 2 Release Delayed Again On Switch, New Date "Within 6 Months"
"Cloud" games are dead to me. I don't fall for that scam and I refuse to reward bad behavior.
Re: Dying Light 2 Will Take At Least 500 Hours To "Fully Complete"
I welcome long games. But any "cloud" game is dead to me. Put in the dev effort or don't bother. Other devs have proven your excuses to be hollow and lame.
Re: BioShock 4 Release Window, Time And Setting Details Reportedly Leaked
This CAN come to Switch if the devs are willing to put in the effort. But if it comes as a "cloud" version, then it's dead to me. I don't subscribe to that anti-consumer BS... "cloud" gaming is an anathema to gaming as a whole.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (November 20th)
I've started playing Hob, because that's what my backlist is like.
Had been playing Alien: Isolation but it started to kick my ass so I needed to mix it up.
Re: Rockstar Has Released Its First Update For The Grand Theft Auto Trilogy
I see the apologists are still out in full force.
R.I.P. the days where devs actually cared about quality on release date and what went on the cartridge was a playable, almost bug-free game. I almost wish that only the digital version was released on the official release day, and then the physical version was delayed a few months so that the digital crowd could beta-test the game for the lazy dev and the physical version could get the patched game.
Re: Digital Foundry Begins GTA Trilogy Analysis, Describes GTA 3 On Switch As A 'Big Mess'
Remember when the games on a cartridge were actually good, functional, and complete? And relatively bug-free? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
The apologists for day-1 patching devs are infuriating and depressing. Our physical carts are becoming nothing more than physical DRM keys for downloaded games, and will become worthless once the servers are gone.
Re: Niantic's Pokémon GO-Style Harry Potter Mobile Game Is Being Shut Down
I used to go to arcades all the time too. I had the choice to play Mortal Kombat and Shinobi in the arcade, but I could also (and did) buy the games for a home console. I had a choice.
When some lazy dev releases a "cloud" version of a game on Switch instead of a proper native/local version, that's the ONLY version of the game they make available on Switch. I don't have a choice.
If I could choose between a full/local edition of Resident Evil 7 or Dying Light 2 on the Switch, and the "cloud" edition, your argument and comparison to arcades would hold up. But I can't, so it doesn't.
And @Screen said it well. If fricken DOOM can play on the Switch, then these other games could be ported and optimized to provide an adequate non-cloud experience. Another good example is Hellblade.
Re: Video: 15 Exciting New Games Coming To Nintendo Switch In November
@Silly_G I applaud you for sticking to your principles (which I also agree with)
Re: Harmonix's Fuser Gets A Permanent Price Drop On Switch And Other Platforms
I don't care how "flawed" the reviewers try to claim the game is. I played this back at PAX East last year and fell in love, so when it went on sale around xmas I picked it up and all the DLC. I think it's a really fun time.
Re: Nintendo Switch System Update 12.0.1 Is Now Live
The only thing more insulting than the fact that we have yet to have folders or themes, is Nintendo's absolute silence and refusal to explain why we don't have folders or themes.
Re: Rumour: 'Switch Pro' Could Feature A Mini-LED Display, According To A New Report
Just give us OLED for !@$*% sake. Thinner, better contrast and more vibrant, uses less electricity... win win win.
Every smartphone I've ever owned has been OLED, I almost can't stand looking at my laptop anymore it's that good.
Re: Switch Owner Claims To Have Taken Nintendo To Court Over Joy-Con Drift, And Won
The people countering with the fact that THEY themselves haven't experienced this are pointless noise.
I've never gone bald, so clearly baldness doesn't exist.
On the other hand, I had to send in two of my joycons for drift, and one of my Pro controllers due to ghost D-pad triggers. Nintendo fixed/replaced all at no charge, and fast.
Re: All Resident Evil Games Discounted On Nintendo Switch, Get Up To 60% Off
Loved RE4 on the Wii, would totally double-dip and replay if they didn't cheap out and not bother carrying over gyro-aiming.
I refuse to support this behavior with my money.
Re: Gallery: Paper Mario: The Origami King - 20 Gorgeous Screenshots And Box Art Revealed
Holy aliasing, batman. Very distracting when things move, especially when the background slowly moves.
I'm not sure I'll be able to get over that. Some games do well to mask it, but in this one it's like sand in your eyes.
Re: Buying BioShock, Borderlands Or XCOM Physically? Expect Huge Download Requirements
@JudgeMethos don't confuse "memory" (RAM) with "storage". They aren't the same. The Switch has 4GB of memory, and 32GB of storage.
Re: Buying BioShock, Borderlands Or XCOM Physically? Expect Huge Download Requirements
All those of you claiming there's "no point" now really don't get the benefits of physical to begin with.
1) You can loan out the cartridge to friends/family, or share a single game cartridge among multiple Switches
2) You can re-sell the game later if you beat it or stop having fun playing it and would rather recoup some money to put towards a new game.
Regardless of patches or extra downloads, the physical cartridge allows you to do these things. A digital download does not. Yes it's annoying to have to download and use space on the MicroSD card, and devs really need to stop this BS and shell out for the larger-capacity cartridges. But it's only a trivial nuisance compared to the main benefits of buying physical.
Re: 10-Character Island Names For Animal Crossing: New Horizons Now Confirmed
I guess I'm the only one who thinks 10-characters is rather arbitrarily small. I guess bits are expensive?
Chalk it up to the long list of "WTF, Nintendo?" items that just leave you scratching/shaking your head.
Re: Here's All The New Info And Tidbits From Today's Animal Crossing: New Horizons Direct
Only recover saves ones? I've had to get my Wii repaired twice.
And no transfer to a new Switch? Sorry, if I have to choose between paying AC and being able to upgrade to a "Switch Pro" or some other updated model, I'm skipping AC.
The rest of you can enjoy spending 2 years investing in a town only to lose it all. Not my idea of fun.
Re: Switch Pro Rumours Resurface As New Report Claims Mid-2020 Release For New System
Those complaining that this would fragment the games market should really read earlier comments before complaining. It's already been explain how this could/would be easily avoided.
Re: Switch Pro Rumours Resurface As New Report Claims Mid-2020 Release For New System
The way this works without fragmenting the market is for the "Switch Pro" to have a built-in 1080p screen and now games played portably play at the same performance as they used to docked.
On top of that, maybe make the screen OLED. Increasing the built-in internal storage is a no-brainer. Considering it's already an internally-removable module I don't get why they haven't done it already. It'd just mean putting in a larger module... the main Switch PCB remains the same.
Other wishlist items would be a better, more-durable stand, bluetooth headphone support, and bigger battery.
Re: A Standalone Nintendo Switch Stylus Is Launching This December In Japan
In Nintendo's defense: this appears to us a mesh-fiber tip, which is more durable than the rubber tips on cheapo styli but does make a stylus cost more.
Re: Gallery: A Closer Look At Ring Fit Adventure, Nintendo's Shiny New Switch Toy
This is super dorky and ridiculous. And I'll be buying it anyway. I'd still like a proper "Switch Fit". I still think the Wii Balance Board was slick and the perfect device for that kind of experience (and snowboarding with it was perfect and so much fun). Make it work with the Switch... I still have mine.
Re: Nintendo Officially Unveils Ring Fit Adventure, An Exercised-Based Adventure Game
This is super dorky and ridiculous. And I'll be buying it anyway. I'd still like a proper "Switch Fit". I still think the Wii Balance Board was slick and the perfect device for that kind of experience (and snowboarding with it was perfect and so much fun). Make it work with the Switch... I still have mine.
Re: Capcom Takes A Bite Out Of Its Resident Evil eShop Prices In Europe
Too expensive, no physical, and RE4 lacks motion controls. So no purchase.
Re: Nintendo's Digital Sales See A Whopping Year-On-Year Jump
@kevin74 That's quite the ephemerally game collection you have there which will be useless and unplayable in a few years.
Re: The Switch Version Of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Gets Rated By The ESRB
And now we have the first game rated for "sexuality" on the Switch
Re: Nintendo's Digital Sales See A Whopping Year-On-Year Jump
"And as much as we love physical media here at Nintendo Life, there seems to be no denying that the future is all digital."
You know, the more you parrot this nonsense, the more you work to make it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe if everyone didn't just throw up the white-flag on day one we wouldn't be ushering in the demise of retro gaming, sharing games and the used market so quickly. Gamers are shooting themselves in the foot and ruining the future all for the sake of impatience and laziness.
You'd think as more and more houses become multi-Switch houses, especially with the Switch Lite, that people would wise up and realize one of the many benefits of having a physical cartridge that you can just buy once and share.
Re: Soapbox: Sorry Nintendo, Joy-Con Drift Means I Won't Buy Switch Lite At Launch
It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who ONLY play their Switch in handheld mode and never docked to a TV. Switch games look AMAZING at 1080p on a big screen... even my 75". Handheld-only users are really missing out on an expanded experience.
Switch Lite is a bad deal and overpriced. A non-Switching "Switch", handicapped in too many ways, lacking user-repairability of the most-damaged part by virtue of (non)removable joy-cons. And the biggest inexcusable travesty? The inability to dock or in any way connect to a TV and truly be worthy of the name "Switch". I can see not including the dock, but NOT preventing TV-out entirely. Nintendo are being real dicks by saving a whopping $0.10 on the chip necessary to send video out the USB-C port (not making up the figure, that's the cost of the chip in qty from Alibaba. Max I saw was $1.50).
Re: Nihon Falcom Lacks The Ability To Release More Games On Switch, Says President
This is sad. And pathetic. I really enjoyed Ys VIII on the Switch, even if it wasn't as polished as XC2. I would like to see newer/better versions of what NF could put out, if they could wean themselves off from Sony's teat. I only play on Nintendo consoles and will never be buying a Playstation or XBox.
Re: Nintendo Acknowledges Switch Mini Rumours, Says It Is "Always" Developing New Hardware
I won't buy a Mini, but I welcome anything that increases Nintendo's fanbase and helps the company become more popular and profitable. That only helps us all as it encourages more devs to make more games.
What I WOULD be interested in would be a "Switch Pro" (or whatever). Nintendo has to be careful with the Mini or the Pro not to fragment the games or accessories, but there are things that could safely be done on the Pro:
Pull that off, and I'd happily upgrade.
Re: Japanese Charts: Switch Console Sales Reach 8 Million, Will Soon Overtake PS4 Lifetime Sales
And yet game developers and publishers will continue to snub the Switch, claiming that it's a minor market player that lacks a significant enough userbase to port their games to.
Re: Random: Switch Box Art Download Warning Receives A Makeover
I think the jerk publishers pulling this BS and not just putting a full, complete, non-beta version of the game on a suitably-size cartridge need far more public shaming than this box art accomplishes.
Re: Bethesda Confirms Wolfenstein: Youngblood Will Include A Download Code Instead Of A Game Card
The pro-digital people in these comments insulting those who want physical and giving reasons that the pro-physical people are wrong/stupid really demonstrate that they don't get it at all why the pro-physical people want physical cartridges.
Most the times, the reasons that the pro-digital folks THINK the pro-physical are the way they are... aren't the actual reasons.
Re: Mortal Kombat 11 Day-One Patch Will Be More Than Double The Size Of Base Game, Says Data Miner
If you're game isn't done, don't fricken release it. If we buy a physical cartridge, we want the game on the cartridge in working form. We're not looking to buy a physical DRM key for a digitally-downloaded game, but that's what cartridges are turning into.
Re: PDP Reveals Switch Controller With Headphone Jack And Adjustable Audio Settings
PDP does what Nintendon't?