@Stwert Yes, that's a good breakdown, but my only point is that such a card would work just fine if used in a Switch 1, yet Nintendo doesn't tick the box next to that family of systems, showing that the ticks may also be inaccurate for the Switch 2 dock.
Looking at the website, I'm not convinced yet. I don't see it spelled out in text, I just see the checkbox system that states this is a Switch 2 accessory and not a Switch 1 accessory. It could have been simply copypasted from, say, the Joy-Con 2 page without a second thought.
For instance, the new MicroSD Express cards (see the bottom of the store page) ALSO only have a checkmark next to the Switch 2, even though they're just faster SD cards and fully compatible with older SD card drives (such as the Switch 1), the older devices simply don't benefit from the higher read/write speeds. @dartmonkey If I missed anything on the listing in the text explicitly stating the incompatibility, please let me know.
As a non-press commoner, the Switch is the only console I have had the good fortune of playing prior to launch. SCRAP ran the "Defenders of the Triforce" Zelda escape game in early 2017, and teams that finished in a timely fashion were given the opportunity to play BotW on Switch in a bonus room. That was cool. I wish there was some similar event running nowadays, that was a fun day.
@StewdaMegaManNerd Sakurai considered Heroes to be a full Fire Emblem Game. Don't be surprised if the next Mario Kart is 'Mario Kart 10' (or even 11 if they count Home Circuit too lol)
@JohnnyMind
I'm hoping for a GBA/3DS situation. GBA and GB games fit in the GBA, but GBA games don't fit in the GB. Likewise 3DS games don't fit in a DS, but DS fits in 3DS fine. I'd really like it if the Switch 1 fits in the Switch 2 dock, just so I only need one dock plugged into my tv.
If we assume they'll feature Legends: Z-A heavily as a cross-generation launch game, I certainly hope the Switch 2 will have had an official direct by then.
@KociolekDoSyta
@rta
If it was for quick charging then the power output would also be rated near its 60W power input, but the power output shown in that picture is 42W, higher than the original Switch's 33W to be sure, but that only covers 9Wof the 21W increase to the power budget. The new dock itself is eating up a full 18 W, the same as the maximum power draw of the original Switch console.
That power is being used for something, what could it be?
Oh my, that's curious.
For those who don't know basic electricity, you calculate power consumption by Power=Volts*Amps.
Devices generally list the maximum volts/amps they are designed to work with. In reality the voltage is generally stable and determined by the power supply, while amperage is adjusted as needed by whatever a given device is doing. It is rare for an electrical device that isn't something like a toaster to actually draw its dill rated power for an extended period of time.
So the dock accepts 20Volt*3Amp=60 Watts, but then only spits out 15V*2.8Amp=42 Watts.
So, somehow the dock itself is expected to draw 18 watts of power.
The original Switch dock lists an input of 15V*2.6A=39W and an output of 15V*2.2 W=33W.
Which means the original dock itself is rated to use no more than 6 watts at any given time, which it uses for its few simple functions of running the USB ports, the power LED, and video out.
Here's the fun part:
The Switch, at the absolute most (running an intense game with a discharged console/joy-cons), barely uses 17 watts. (You can only approach the full 40-watt rating by plugging some USB devices into the system so that they're draining power too).
So here we have a DOCK ALONE that is rated to use the full power consumption of the original Switch, presumably have ~15-20 watts of the power budget reserved for its USB ports, and ~25-27 watts left over for the Switch 2 proper.
I will temper my expectations, but I now FULLY believe the Switch 2 dock has substantial onboard computational power. This could mean any combination of the below:
1. The dock has a CPU/GPU onboard that will result in superior performance when docked.
2.The dock can wirelessly communicate with a Switch console to facilitate dual-screen gaming like the Wii U, with the dock doing a whole bunch of work on its own.
We'll see.
It took them ~25000 tries, right? Millions of people have played Majora's Mask, I feel like someone must have seen the blue dog win at some point before now, and just not have it recorded.
@FantasiaWHT "You wouldn't pay for it if you didn't benefit from it." People buy self-destructive things all the time. The obese by trash high-calorie meals. Smokers buy cigarettes. Alcoholics buy beer.
@KidSparta Netrunner (among other Fantasy Flight LCGs), Plaid Hat's Summoner Wars, and Doomtown all use that model. And Magic/Pokémon/YuGiOh beat them every year. Lorcana too. It ticks me off that people tolerate the random pack model. But in a very real sense, people don't. If you're playing Pokémon at the competitive level, you're buying singles from companies that open thousands of packs and then resell them. But people love their Skinner boxes. Sigh
@Joeynator3000 With Fire Emblem Heroes no longer giving platinum points, and Animal Crossing Pocket Camp ending, it is now the only mobile game to score you weekly My Nintendo points. Which aren't worth much, but I do use my Mario/Kirby shopping bags and the annual desk calendars.
@Twilite9 I think it is generally a bad thing to post any external objects, twitter, bluesky, or otherwise, as when this article is read by someone in 10 years, there's no guarantee the API will still work.
I want to see the whole minecart ride experience on YouTube, and then finally experience it 5+ years from now when Epic Universe isn't the hottest new thing.
Protip: NEVER USE A TEFLON PAN! Just go plain cast iron, stainless steel, or enameled cast iron. If stuff is sticking, just use more butter. You don't want Teflon in your system.
This announced the day after Disney announces $449/day/person line skipping passes for Disney World lmao. Universal is going to destroy them over the next decade, just by not being tone-deaf. (Lightning Lane Premier Pass is the name for those of you interested).
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Re: Switch 2's Dock Isn't Compatible With The Original Switch, According To Nintendo
@Stwert
Yes, that's a good breakdown, but my only point is that such a card would work just fine if used in a Switch 1, yet Nintendo doesn't tick the box next to that family of systems, showing that the ticks may also be inaccurate for the Switch 2 dock.
Re: Switch 2's Dock Isn't Compatible With The Original Switch, According To Nintendo
Looking at the website, I'm not convinced yet.
I don't see it spelled out in text, I just see the checkbox system that states this is a Switch 2 accessory and not a Switch 1 accessory. It could have been simply copypasted from, say, the Joy-Con 2 page without a second thought.
For instance, the new MicroSD Express cards (see the bottom of the store page) ALSO only have a checkmark next to the Switch 2, even though they're just faster SD cards and fully compatible with older SD card drives (such as the Switch 1), the older devices simply don't benefit from the higher read/write speeds.
@dartmonkey
If I missed anything on the listing in the text explicitly stating the incompatibility, please let me know.
Re: Bravely Default On Switch 2 May Have Removed One Of The Game's Best Features
From the title I thought you meant Streetpass.
Re: Splatoon 3 Version 9.3.0 Arrives This Week, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
That's all well and good, but where are Sheldon's Picks/3rd loadouts for each primary?
Re: Random: Pokémon-Shaped Cheeto Auction Proves The World Has Gone Mad
This is the same scummy auction house affiliated with WATA grading.
Re: Pokémon TCG Pocket Surpasses 100 Million Downloads
I just uninstalled it because Creatures obvious doesn't care about a healthy meta or adding dark mode.
Re: Poll: Will You Trade In Your Switch When Switch 2 Arrives?
@alanahagues
Thank you for including the Ring Fit Adventure option. That's me for sure.
Re: Video: Let's Compare Xenoblade Chronicles X On Wii U And Switch
But dual screens.
Re: Gallery: Here's Another Look At Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition For Switch
Wow, that sure look a lot like Xenoblade Chronicles X for the Wii U
Re: Best Wario Games Of All Time
It's criminal that VB Wario Land is ranked so low. It's like a better version of Wario Land 1.
Re: Random: Takaya Imamura Wants To See Star Fox: Assault On Switch 2
Steel Diver Sub Wars HD would be a perfect NSO freebie.
Re: Poll: 10 Years On, Which Version Of Zelda: Majora's Mask Is Best?
46% of voters are wrong.
Re: Opinion: The Hyped-Up New Pokémon TCG Set Is A Total Bummer To Open
@1UP-HUSKY
The better question is: How can $1400 be worth so little?
Re: New Star Wars 'Prequel Pack' Launching Alongside Jedi Power Battles This Week
So where are Battle for Naboo and the other Factor 5 games?
Re: Joy-Con Mouse Functionality Seemingly Confirmed In Switch 2 Trailer
@Drew250
It doesn't confirm it, that's why the article said 'seemingly'.
Re: My Nintendo Store Adds New Donkey Kong Country Returns HD Reward (US)
@LastFootnote
Don't forget the theme park in Japan and soon to open in Florida.
Re: Nintendo Asks Wii U Owners To Refrain From Using "Unauthorised" Online Services
@YunoboCo
Switch 2 will do dual-screen gameplay. I'm calling it now
Re: Nintendo Asks Wii U Owners To Refrain From Using "Unauthorised" Online Services
Well, no one expected them to endorse Pretendo, lol.
Re: 8 Years Ago Today, We First Got Our Hands On Nintendo Switch
As a non-press commoner, the Switch is the only console I have had the good fortune of playing prior to launch.
SCRAP ran the "Defenders of the Triforce" Zelda escape game in early 2017, and teams that finished in a timely fashion were given the opportunity to play BotW on Switch in a bonus room.
That was cool.
I wish there was some similar event running nowadays, that was a fun day.
Re: Nintendo and Lego Are Collaborating On A New Game Boy Set
Why would a LEGO Game Boy take longer after its announcement to release than the Switch 2?
Re: Switch 2 'Indentations' Make It Incompatible With Original Switch Dock, Says Genki
@StewdaMegaManNerd
Sakurai considered Heroes to be a full Fire Emblem Game.
Don't be surprised if the next Mario Kart is 'Mario Kart 10' (or even 11 if they count Home Circuit too lol)
Re: Switch 2 'Indentations' Make It Incompatible With Original Switch Dock, Says Genki
@JohnnyMind
I'm hoping for a GBA/3DS situation. GBA and GB games fit in the GBA, but GBA games don't fit in the GB. Likewise 3DS games don't fit in a DS, but DS fits in 3DS fine. I'd really like it if the Switch 1 fits in the Switch 2 dock, just so I only need one dock plugged into my tv.
Re: Yes, We're Getting Closer To Pokémon Day
If we assume they'll feature Legends: Z-A heavily as a cross-generation launch game, I certainly hope the Switch 2 will have had an official direct by then.
Re: Poll: Does Anyone Actually Use The Switch Joy-Con Straps?
They're essential for Warioware: Move It
Re: Tencent Labeled A "Chinese Military Company" By US Government
I'm sure that Intel, AMD and IBM are 'Military companies' too then, their chips end up in everything.
Re: Rumour: New 'Switch 2' Leak Suggests Console Will Require A 60W Charger
@KociolekDoSyta
@rta
If it was for quick charging then the power output would also be rated near its 60W power input, but the power output shown in that picture is 42W, higher than the original Switch's 33W to be sure, but that only covers 9Wof the 21W increase to the power budget. The new dock itself is eating up a full 18 W, the same as the maximum power draw of the original Switch console.
That power is being used for something, what could it be?
Re: Rumour: New 'Switch 2' Leak Suggests Console Will Require A 60W Charger
Oh my, that's curious.
For those who don't know basic electricity, you calculate power consumption by Power=Volts*Amps.
Devices generally list the maximum volts/amps they are designed to work with. In reality the voltage is generally stable and determined by the power supply, while amperage is adjusted as needed by whatever a given device is doing. It is rare for an electrical device that isn't something like a toaster to actually draw its dill rated power for an extended period of time.
So the dock accepts 20Volt*3Amp=60 Watts, but then only spits out 15V*2.8Amp=42 Watts.
So, somehow the dock itself is expected to draw 18 watts of power.
The original Switch dock lists an input of 15V*2.6A=39W and an output of 15V*2.2 W=33W.
Which means the original dock itself is rated to use no more than 6 watts at any given time, which it uses for its few simple functions of running the USB ports, the power LED, and video out.
Here's the fun part:
The Switch, at the absolute most (running an intense game with a discharged console/joy-cons), barely uses 17 watts. (You can only approach the full 40-watt rating by plugging some USB devices into the system so that they're draining power too).
So here we have a DOCK ALONE that is rated to use the full power consumption of the original Switch, presumably have ~15-20 watts of the power budget reserved for its USB ports, and ~25-27 watts left over for the Switch 2 proper.
I will temper my expectations, but I now FULLY believe the Switch 2 dock has substantial onboard computational power. This could mean any combination of the below:
1. The dock has a CPU/GPU onboard that will result in superior performance when docked.
2.The dock can wirelessly communicate with a Switch console to facilitate dual-screen gaming like the Wii U, with the dock doing a whole bunch of work on its own.
We'll see.
Re: Random: After Almost 25 Years, Majora's Mask's Blue Underdog Has Finally Nabbed A Racing Win
It took them ~25000 tries, right?
Millions of people have played Majora's Mask, I feel like someone must have seen the blue dog win at some point before now, and just not have it recorded.
Re: Best Of 2024: The Company You Can Pay To X-Ray Unopened Pokémon Card Packs Speaks Out
@FantasiaWHT
"You wouldn't pay for it if you didn't benefit from it."
People buy self-destructive things all the time. The obese by trash high-calorie meals.
Smokers buy cigarettes.
Alcoholics buy beer.
Re: Best Of 2024: The Company You Can Pay To X-Ray Unopened Pokémon Card Packs Speaks Out
@KidSparta
Netrunner (among other Fantasy Flight LCGs), Plaid Hat's Summoner Wars, and Doomtown all use that model.
And Magic/Pokémon/YuGiOh beat them every year. Lorcana too.
It ticks me off that people tolerate the random pack model.
But in a very real sense, people don't.
If you're playing Pokémon at the competitive level, you're buying singles from companies that open thousands of packs and then resell them.
But people love their Skinner boxes.
Sigh
Re: Best Of 2024: The Company You Can Pay To X-Ray Unopened Pokémon Card Packs Speaks Out
@koopababble
You can make and market a card game without random booster packs.
Re: Super Mario Run Celebrates Super Mario Party Jamboree In New Crossover Event
@Joeynator3000
With Fire Emblem Heroes no longer giving platinum points, and Animal Crossing Pocket Camp ending, it is now the only mobile game to score you weekly My Nintendo points.
Which aren't worth much, but I do use my Mario/Kirby shopping bags and the annual desk calendars.
Re: Nintendo Announces The Final Tetris 99 Maximus Cup For 2024
Hopefully we get another update that adds access to prior events.
I missed ONE this year and now my theme collection is incomplete.
Re: Nintendo Alarmo Has Received A Free Update, Here's What's Included
But is it more stable now?
Re: Random: Super Mario 64 GBA Project Showcases "Real Hardware" Demo
@RadioShadow
They have no legal standing to do so.
Re: Nintendo Store Tokyo's Latest Gacha Goodies Are A Range Of Zelda: TOTK Zonai Devices
@Twilite9
I think it is generally a bad thing to post any external objects, twitter, bluesky, or otherwise, as when this article is read by someone in 10 years, there's no guarantee the API will still work.
Re: Super Nintendo World: Donkey Kong Country Entrance Revealed, Here's A Look
I want to see the whole minecart ride experience on YouTube, and then finally experience it 5+ years from now when Epic Universe isn't the hottest new thing.
Re: Random: 'Nintendo Music' Has Fans Reminiscing About Smash Ultimate's Grooviest Feature
Y'all forgetting that Smash 4 and Xenoblade 3D have music players that work with a closed 3DS.
Re: Random: Owners Of A Nintendo Frying Pan Are Being Warned Not To Use It
Protip:
NEVER USE A TEFLON PAN!
Just go plain cast iron, stainless steel, or enameled cast iron.
If stuff is sticking, just use more butter.
You don't want Teflon in your system.
Re: Some Fans Aren't Happy About Sonic X Shadow Generations' Changes To The Original
@DarkScythe13
And you can do that in new media, don't retcon old games.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Version 1.0.2 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes
Smoother?
Did they actually push a patch that improves the framerate?
Re: Pokémon Trading Card Game Pocket Surpasses Six Million Pre-Registrations
@Anachronism
It is. TCG pocket is a shorter game with less complex cards and smaller decks.
Re: Universal Orlando's Super Nintendo World Opens Its Doors May 2025
This announced the day after Disney announces $449/day/person line skipping passes for Disney World lmao.
Universal is going to destroy them over the next decade, just by not being tone-deaf.
(Lightning Lane Premier Pass is the name for those of you interested).
Re: Talking Point: Is It Time For Another Side-Scrolling Zelda Game?
Just do a remake of Zelda 2. If it works, then consider another game, just like how Grezzo did modern LA, then used the style for EoW.
Re: Reaction: A Little Device That Makes Sounds In Sync To Movements On The Bed?... Oh, Nintendo
This may be the final Nintendo project started by Iwata.
Re: Satoru Iwata Announces a "Quality of Life" Platform Business of "Non-Wearable" Technology
IT'S REAL!!!!!!
https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-14-nintendo-sound-clock-alarmo-part-1/
Re: Forget 'Switch 2', Nintendo Has Just Revealed An Official Alarm Clock
@Coolmusic
You realize this was teased in 2014, right?
Re: Forget 'Switch 2', Nintendo Has Just Revealed An Official Alarm Clock
@olliemar28
@dartmonkey
This was announced over 10 years ago!
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/01/satoru_iwata_announces_a_quality_of_life_platform_business_of_non_wearable_technology
Re: "We Were So Stumped" - Nintendo On The 'Unorthodox' Development Of Alarmo
They announced it a decade ago and it is finally out!
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/01/satoru_iwata_announces_a_quality_of_life_platform_business_of_non_wearable_technology
Re: Super Mario Party Jamboree's Pre-Order Gifts Have Been Revealed (US)
Wait, Target gives you a trash can for the game?