With the run up to E3 and the nature of the internet, it's inevitable that we're going to get some fanciful Nintendo NX rumours floating around. We recently tackled some rumours which the internet got in a flap about, as there wasn't much substance to back them up. Now we've been hit by another "leak" which is a supposed image of the NX Controller prototype. Here it is (rotated, because we're nice like that):

Way back in late 2014, reports emerged of Nintendo and Sharp apparently negotiating terms for the big N to use free-form screen technology on a product that'd start production in early 2016; as we now know that's potentially the period when Nintendo's new hardware will (or already has) go into manufacturing. These are LCD screens that can be manipulated and shaped courtesy of a 'bendable bezel', which also allows for shapes and gaps within the screen itself. As a potential material for a portable device, it has obvious potential.
Late last year we ran an article detailing a patent which names various Nintendo staff and researchers as the 'inventors'. As you can see below, it's an elliptical screen with two holes through which control sticks are utilised.

So what we have here in this image (originating on Reddit) is a very literal interpretation of this patent. Interestingly, it appears from some research by Destructoid that the image doesn't appear to have been significantly Photoshopped, either. That said, whatever the screen is meant to be showing, it seems rather scruffy and random.

Ergonomically it looks extremely uncomfortable, but let's not forget the original Wii U GamePad prototype was also rather simplistic in shape. It rather reminds us of a rear-view mirror with two analogue sticks plonked on to it. The lack of face buttons would be resolved by haptic feedback for the virtual buttons. While using the controller's analogue sticks, both sides of the screen would be covered by the gamer's hands, rendering it pretty much useless.
As it's GDC at the moment, it could be a prototype doing the rounds. The connector cable looks too chunky, but that could be consistent with a prototype too.
What has really set alarm bells ringing here at the Nintendo Life office is the fact that this prototype is an almost exact copy of the image shown in the patent - normally, patent images are rather different from the final product, largely because companies are cautious about giving too much away at an early stage. The images are usually intended to give an idea of concept the patent is protecting, rather than showing exactly what the device will look like. So in this case, it could be that some cheeky scamp has taken the patent too literally and "faked" the controller.
It's also worth remembering that not all patents come to pass, and while Nintendo and Sharp are working on something it might be a very different proposition to the one shown in the patent.
Having said all of that, stranger things have happened, and we're not 100% sure this is a fake - yet. We're certainly in the 'it's a fake' camp, but aren't fully there to the point we'd declare this to be entirely false. Let us know what you think of this image by leaving a comment below and casting your vote in our poll.
What do you think about this NX controller photo, then? (831 votes)
- Looks like it could be the real deal to me
- Totally fake
- I'm not sure either way, to be honest
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[source destructoid.com, via dualpixels.com]
Comments 206
Hopefully if it's true they need to change the design a bit because for now it will sink even more than the Wii U if the NX keep a controller like that.
Best to wait and see, but to me that looks like a very early prototype.
I kind of think its fake. you would think he or she would have taken better pics than these. I like the look of it. hope there is buttons tho. maybe the buttons are clear like the ones on the wii classic controller making them hard to see in picture.
'Not sure either way' is the only logical answer, at the moment. After Destructoid's analysis revealed that the image hasn't been heavily doctored, it means that this controller actually 'exists' - although whether it is something someone has 3D printing and put together themselves or some official prototype remains to be seen.
I also find it interesting that NL decided not to use the full image (with the post-it note), what was the reason for this I wonder
Looks like the most uncomfortable controller ever designed. Can you imagine using that for a few rounds of SSB or Mario Kart?
I like the concept,
But !
No virtual button ! I'm pretty sure nintendo know that.
I could see this as the bottom half of a 3DS. displaying informations on controls and menus.
Looks really fake to me. I hope that Nintendo doesnt do too much with these 'innovative' screens because this looks like a gimmick that everybody gets tired of pretty quick.
If this is real, then Nintendo lost all my hopes.
@Mogster I noticed that they never used that image also. Makes me think if they had time to write a note they had time to take better photos.
If anything its a very early prototype, and it might not be for there next big product. It might just be a controller for something else like a tourist device
It looks absolutely hideous if this us true and I strongly believe it's not then I would expect the NX to tank even harder than the Wii U
I don't buy it. Just because a patent exists it doesn't mean that this what we are getting. Companies apply for many patents
Naah, the real thing couldn't look like that. Base of your thumbs would cover the sides of the screen. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be wasting so precious resources and screen components (which makes the handhelds expensive) if they would be constantly covered by hands and smears.
I can't stop looking at it.
It shouldn't work, it shouldn't be real, and yet it's so different that my brain can't help but think how it might just work!
I hate when this trash appears. All it does is make a bunch of morons come forward and post what they "know" and tout their "facts" about the NX, and then follows a bunch of random "it's confirmed" comments aimed at anything you can come up with.
If this is the handheld-console device then I would imagine it would be possible to play with a more normal controller on the TV, if that device aren't required then like the Wii U Gamepad.
I think I will just wait and see for now :+).
I think it's fake. I think people took the earlier leak and are trying to fake based on it. I think most people expect a gimmick or some innovation depending on which side of the fence you're on. This is basically a Wii U controller with haptic buttons. I expect more change from Nintendo.
Yeah, looks pretty ridiculous. Why would you put two thumbsticks in the middle of the screen? How would you even hold the controller and use the absurd thumbsticks comfortably, let alone hold the controller itself comfortably. Yeah, rumor definitely busted.
Sure looks interesting, the lack of buttons is a concern (apart from a barely visible "b" button) but hopefully any haptic feedback will make the virtual buttons more "comfortable". Obviously this is all based on whether it's the real deal. The patent showed "handles" that are not present on the prototype. Maybe they are removable for portability or being a prototype, they decided to save cash.
Also, can't help but sigh at people saying its "uncomfortable" when they've never even held it. I know you can get an idea but honestly you can't tell until you try it. Even worse are those saying it'll "fail"; the PS2 & PS3 IMO had some of the least comfortable controllers ever devised. They were hardly failures. For all we know it could be merely a technology demonstrator and comfort was the least of their concerns at that point.
Or it could just be fake; the fact is we don't know.
First off, the camera is on the bottom, unless you like taking pictures of your chin it's useless.
Which leads me to believe, the pad could possibly be upside down in photo.
Also, if you look at the top left of the pad, you can see what looks like either a grip, or bumper button.
The image itself, looks like a top down view of an in game map.
There is numbers or words in yellow at the top.
This until further will remain a mystery, I'm swaying towards it being a fake, but who knows really.
It's not exactly the same as the patent which looks more comfortable to hold than the proposed leaked image of the prototype.
I'm in the not sure camp at the moment, it's hard to say as all three companies spend millions on R&D in their consoles. So yeah this may be Nintendo simply trying out the patent to see if it works, not a finished design.
Microsoft spent $150 million researching their Xbox One controller, and very nearly had it let out smells or something along those lines - yeah, talk about throwing money down the drain with gimmicks. And remember the hideous original PS3 boomerang controller Sony planned to release before going back to the simple Dual Shock look?
At the end of the day, this may lead to nothing and simply be a test prototype for a controller that'll end up with a totally different design or just be scrapped.
I really hope this is a fake..... because if it is not, this is the most anti-ergonomic pad I've ever seen. The lack of physical buttons put me off instantly by playing on it, I hate mobile gaming for the same reason....
I really hope this is not true, otherwise NX will bomb spectacularly....
So, let's imagine this actually is real. . . .
Nintendo has what we see in the image above for its controller. And a company like Oculus has something like this as one of its controllers:
http://wp.me/p793Co-B8
I know which one excites me the most—and the difference level of my excitement between the two is an order of magnitude.
If that picture above really is the NX controller, I'll be completely underwhelmed—and worried for Nintendo and NX.
Right now, Nintendo has to compete with not only the Xbox One and PS4 but also the likes of smartphones/tablets and now all these amazing new VR headsets that are launching soon too. Something like the controller seen in the image above just doesn't make Nintendo's offering more appealing than the competition, or even as appealing, so why would anyone really care?
I think Nintendo needs to make more than an ever dwindling bunch of the most loyal fans and some casuals care. Well, what I'm really saying is I want Nintendo to make ME care. I mostly don't right now.
This is fake since it is one-to-one taken from the patent and of course the picture in the patent is just a sketch for assigning the technical details.
@FubumblR I don't think we need to be thinking touch screen like gamepad or DS when looking at this
(If real) the concept here wouldn't be for the touch screen to show anything more than an maybe a HUD and custom control layouts. It wouldn't be showing the "action" like the Gamepad.
For example if playing smash it could load up a layout similar to the GC but then on a FPS it would have buttons for reload ect but also a "switch" for changing the firing mode.
I don't really think this is real, because Nintendo knows what happened to the Wii U because of how gimmicky it was. Also, that looks VERY uncomfortable.
I personally believe it's fake. It looks too... "perfect". As in basically an exact copy of the patent.
And I love how the "NX" will fail because of the controller. The Wii U didn't fail because of the gamepad, but because of non existent marketing, odd naming and lackluster backlog of games. Calm down.
Hold on to your butts, here comes another triple-digit comment section!
As for me, I don't want this kind of controller to be real. I'm sorry, but I just can't find its appeal.
Oh that's so fake. Apart from the fact it doesn't have the prongs/handles you see in the patent, the lighting is all wrong. I wouldn't expect the screen to have such clarity and brightness while the rest of the image is soft, dark and grainy - even with an HDR photo.
How do I know? I'm a cameraman for a living. I know.
Yikes! I would LOVE if it is something like this!!!
The point of freeform screen:
-The area between the controllers is roughly as big as in GamePad
-While the device is still being roughly pocket-able
-The extra screen area is for easily accessible context sensitive controls, while still offering peripheral vision
-Those buttons could be physical
-I want to caress my self with that Snesish shape
not sure if it's real or not
this just could be someone making a mock up based on the patent so i'll wait until Nintendo themselves show the controller and system before i make any judgements on it
This is got to be the worst idea ever.How hard it will be to put two circle pads on a gba original and a backlit screen and wifi.
@NewAdvent Call it instinct! I was looking at the grainy-ness in the dark patches of the photo - that suggests it was taken with a camera with auto iso, like a camera phone. With a high iso, I would expect the screen to look more blown out and overexposed. There's no light spill around where the control sticks are and the lines are far too neat. Try taking a photo of your Wii U gamepad in a dimmy lit room and you'll see what I mean
On the other hand, I could be completely wrong!
Also - other posters are suggesting it's real but it's a mock up made of plasticene. It also seems "unfinished" to me, nintendo hardware designs are usually so much better, even at prototype.
Wario released this photo to troll all of you.
The time is now ripe for Nintendo to hype up the NX with hoax and fakes, throwing everyone off the scent and then surprise with the real thing.
It's probably fake at this stage, there's a very slim chance it could be an early prototype... The idea is sort of cool but if this is the final design i'm a little worried. First off no (or maybe one) face buttons, sorry but i know many console gamers will not want to go down the route of what mobile gaming has done & have virtual buttons & secondly third party developers are going to have the same problems they had with the WiiU where they would have to make a separate version of their titles just for NX which as we've seen just ends up with devs skipping on releasing their games for the system. I'm hoping that this is just a controller option with another traditional controller available or that this is just the rumored "handheld" portion of the console, i just forsee having this as the only controller option being a bad thing for Ninty... Guess we'll have to wait till E3 to see the result..
This is so damn fake it's not even funny.
was just thinking wouldn't this be the first leaked photo of a Nintendo device?
@andrew20 Doesn't this look like a GBA from future though? Only with extra screen space. If the extra peripheral vision doesn't cost too much, why would you have smaller rectangular screen?
Also, Virtual controls doesn't have to be bad(IF there are physical buttons, of course), as not all controls are mere on/off switches. Virtual controls can be sliders, or what ever contraptions your game design might need.
Nintendo wouldn't make a controller that pointy on each side.
That's the kind of stuff you see on those fan made images of futuristic controllers.
And with screen being blocked on each side by hands, Nintendo would have realized that and actually added buttons on the right side that's blocked anyways
Yeah, I think I'm just going to wait until E3 rather than partake in the rumor mill. I think the photo is fake though. Nintendo has always tried to make comfortable controllers, (excluding N64) and that one simply doesn't look comfortable. Could potentially be an early prototype. I don't think it is anything more though.
That is so pathetic looking. lol
So, lets start by: That does look like it doesnt have physical buttons. Thats pretty much all you need to say to disqualify this thing.
Next, shape: The sticks are way too far inside, so expect the extreme oval shape to bury into your hands over time.
And with people already complaining about the WiiU gamepad, expect the whine train to hit overdrive.
Fake / Prototype / whatever it is, if this thing turns out to be the real deal....lets say marketing that thing will be a tough nut to crack...
Too ugly for a Nintendo design IMO, also why is it covered in tin foil?
If this is the real deal (which I think it's not), I'm gonna have a "fun" time trying to play this controller with my huge hands!
This is hideous and disgusting. I'm going to be sick. What a complete disaster. When will the cycle of failure end?
"You will say wow" just screams fake.
Poop info.
@Li_Bae
Perhaps you should wait for confirmation of what is actually real before complaining about cycles of failure and all that nonsense
If it is true I ain't buying it
Don't buy it, after doing a fair amount of looking into the topic, it just doesn't add up. I'm calling that it's fake.
Hang on!
DO we think that the NX 'is' a controller, or is this just the controller belonging to the NX.
Since Nintendo have said that the NX is not replacing the Wii U my guess is that the NX 'is' a controller. So to make it portable and with an acceptable screen size it makes sense to get rid of a lot of the shell and have mostly screen.
But I'm not sure that gamers want a portable version of the gamepad.
The analogue sticks appear to be a single solid piece of plastic attached to the surface, I can't quite see how these would actually move/work?
That is fake. How are you supposed to see the games on a TV screen, in oval form? Because I'm pretty sure the games will be playable on a TV screen. It doesn't make any sense, but lately Nintendo doesn't make any sense either so...
I hate that the navigation bar of Nintendo Life continuously reappears!!
Nope. Not buying it. This is fake.
I dont like it
Competely fake. Why would Nintendo make something like this, that has no actual buttons, but has two weird joysticks, and is just a big screen, especially after the Wii U doing poorly for them trying a gamepad with a screen? Nope, I think Nintendo's nx will simply be a a system that is as powerful as xbox one, and has a normal "pro" style controller this time.
Let's hope that's not the controller. I was thinking it would be like a smaller and more comfortable gamepad, but with more bells and whistles.
People keep saying hands will cover most of the screen...they wont. Your thumbs resting over the analogue sticks doesnt mean your palm is in the middle of the controller.
If that thing is real, you'd have more screen space than a PSVita, with your hands covering maybe 10% or less of that screen.
No face buttons? I'm out if that's true as I hate touch gaming for the most part.
It could be a prototype without actual buttons. Or... it could be a test device made by SHARP to show off Free-Form screens.
I'm sorry but no, this is fake. The screen in the photo looks way too clear and distinct compared to the rest of the photo, which is just rather grainy.
And notice how the lit-up screen is very bright, especially around its center area, yet there's no evidence of any light shining off the control sticks, which are smack in the middle of the screen and should have a lot of light reflecting off of them.
It's quite obviously fake. 'Not heavily photoshopped' doesn't equal 'not photoshopped at all.'
I think that obe is a fake but i bet the official one will be more like a 4-5" 720p smartphone that look like a wiiu gamepad pro with physical button and the touch programmable ones. I think it will be a smaller, much powerfull and low cost wiiu gamepad with enough power and memory to be used alone.
If you compare this 'controller' to the Pro Controller and Gamepad it looks as though they have lifted the Power Button from the former, speakers and possibly either the Mic or Battery Indicator off the latter. You can also see a 'B' button near the right hand analogue stick - it's hard to tell if this is just a Touch Screen button or if it's a physical button sunk in - it's not too dissimilar to the power button found on the New 3DS which is flush with the outer shell. This begs the question, where are the other buttons!?
It does look as though there may be shoulder buttons too.... Given the size I would estimate it was not much bigger than Samsung S6 phone with a depth no more than 30mm. This is either a fake or a very early prototype for something. If you look at it there's no room for any Branding and even early concepts would take that into consideration.
Image looks like a Dog on a bed and that thing with numbers on looks like a microwave... I think we're having our legs pulled here ^_^
@WireWare exactly, how many of these people saying that would've said the exact same thing about the Wii/Wii Remote if that was 'leaked' 11 years ago? I'm guessing quite a few as they're not as business savvy as they are quick at jumping to conclusions.
Don't like the look of the controller hopefully fake.
There they go again...
Looks photoshopped, so no, at least for now, I don't buy it. Besides, this looks like the most uncomfortable controller ever conceived.
I'm actually hoping that the next handheld device will look something like this!
Fake. FAke. FAKE!
Well, it does look like the patent, but without the arms to hold it. Hope it is fake (I think it is) because seeing the image wrapped around the sticks looks ridiculous. I think this would be a hard sell. Meanwhile, I'm wondering what the brain-bending phenomenon is that is sometimes making me see sticking out sticks and sometimes concave dips.
@rjejr You noticed it too! Apparently it's "relief inversion" and has to do with the brain expecting light to come from the top edge of an image; when the light comes from elsewhere, the brain get's tricked.
Where are the buttons?
I'm not sure if it's fake or not, but I'm REALLY HOPING that it IS fake.
Damn it, Nintendo, are you TRYING to make your fans hate you?!
@Skunkfish could be that they are underneath some silicone skin, so completely coated in a rubber skin to protect the sticks and haptic motors. Provided it is real of course...

To give you an idea, here some switches covered in silicone skin:
It's real. Why isn't there a "100% sure it's real" option in the poll?
@tysonfury "nintendo hardware designs are usually so much better, even at prototype."
Well, the GamePad prototype wasn't really such a beauty to look at either:

Just reveal this darn thing already Nintendo.
I wouldn't put it past Nintendo to actually ship a console using something like this, especially after the WiiMote.
Meh if it is real its not the final product. So long as they don't do like sony and take that controller to e3 (my hands cramp when i think about the boomerang controller sony made) i'm good. I say it is fake though.
I mostly skipped the Wii because it was too gimmicky to my tastes. This looks even worse by far. Hope this or something like this isn't going to be the main "feature" of the NX.
My idea of an NX winning recipe:
1: Brutal hardware to cater for definitive editions of 3rd party titles.
2: Strong lineup of own IP's that speak for themselves. Zelda, Mario, DK, Metroid etc.
3: Partner up with Playtonic.
4: Let gimmicks be optional.
That's all I'll ask for.
@TheRealThanos Wow I have never seen the gamepad prototype before. That's really interesting to look at how Nintendo went about developing their hardware.
@Mogster
I really hope this is the actual controller prototype! It has been my favorite patent so far! Also the lack of buttons could explain the reason for haptic feed back in a Specs leak!
It looks fake to me, but who knows? It also looks like a bad design.
....but I learned long ago not to question Nintendo until I actually experience it for myself. I questioned the N64 controller when I first saw it and it's one of my favorite controllers. I questioned the Wiimote and the Gamepad too, and I now like both. I also questioned the two screen - clam shell design of the DS until I played one for the first time utilizing both screens.
@River3636 I'm not saying it's real or fake but if it is real, the entire controller is a touch screen so the buttons can be anywhere on the controller in theory.
Please can we not have another gimmicky controller for the NX, I really don't think people want one. The Wii U gamepad is ok but doesn't really add a lot to the gaming experience. I'd rather just have a normal controller please.
It's gotta be fake. At most it's a prototype and not the final design. If by some tiny chance it is real then I'm done with Nintendo.
@CB85 @tysonfury Since you 2 seem the most focused on detail - is that even supposed to be a screen, b/c all I see is a sticker of a picture. All the photos I've seen of this tech kind of "glow".
Well all except the fake ones. The fake ones don't glow.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sharp+free+form+display+technology&espv=2&biw=1440&bih=813&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ_a3prMrLAhXBOiYKHTc2B80Q_AUICCgD#imgrc=_
I took some rough measurements from it while assuming, that the analog controllers would be the same size as the Wii U controllers, and cut that shape from cardboard.
Even this cardboard gizmo feels AMAZING in hand, and the screen between the controllers would be ca. same size as in the GamePad. In practice the screen looks humongous, as the peripheral vision would expand so far. And the thumbs would cover very little of the peripheral vision as well.
It would also be small enough to fit in breast pocket.
If those A and B buttons were physical(only transparent...idk, if it's possible) they would be placed very elegantly.
The virtual buttons might be controlled much more reliably, as you have a physical reference point in the analog controller.
The virtual buttons would only cover the peripheral vision, and also all kind of information clutter could also be placed into the peripheral vision.
I would prefer this screen to a rectangular, and while it would be difficult to market, it makes sense as soon as you hold it in your hand.
Fun for those at home. If you stare into the middle of the screen glare and then look at the bottom nub it looks like it goes concave INTO the screen.
For some reason my eyes won't do it on the above photo, must have something to do w/ the angle. Don't think it has anything to do w/ fake or not, but I like optical illusions.
EDit: OK, I can't gt it to work here either, I think it needs to be bigger.
http://www.destructoid.com/ul/349431-/R_fElouW%20large-noscale.jpg
prototype of some patent, at most.
How can anyone even consider this a possibility of being true?! If this controller were real, it wouldn't take 5 minutes to hurt your hands badly. Plus, why would it be showing a dog and a digital clock on its screen instead of a proper game?
You will say wow!
Yeah, very believable...
Sooo... Where are the buttons?
I can't believe if this is real if it doesn't allow me to make Mario Jump.
Oh please spare us from virtual buttons Nintendo
Personally I'm still waiting for Nintendo to make good on their bicycle and teddybear patents.
"The lack of face buttons would be resolved by haptic feedback for the virtual buttons" my ass.
@rjejr Here is the same effect again. Even though you know what you see is concave, you will see it as in relief until it goes past a certain rotation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORoTCBrCKIQ
@Sakura I love it when our brains see something we can't control. It's a little humbling to realize we aren't always in total control of what we see, and by extension when we do because of what we see ._.
People talk a lot about the free-form display, but I doubt this will be used this way. This would required all the games to be design early on with the oval screen and holes in mind, while all other platforms will still have rectangular screens. Not a good idea. But while I was thinking about this new leak, something came to my mind.
What if this was actually a SMARTPHONE prototype?
A gaming-focused SP, to be more accurate. A Nintendo SP has been rumored for a while, and it has been said that the next device would not replace the 3DS nor the Wii U (which would make sense if it's a phone).
This could be similar to the Xperia Play. While devices that tried to make a bridge between phones and consoles never made it too far, I still believe that if done right, there is a market for this kind of things.
Isn't 'You will say wow' some kind of Iwata meme?
I think its fake....
Pretty sure it's fake. Not only is it a really non-ergonomic shape it's an incredibly awkward one for developing with! Plus even Nintendo would know it's not a pretty sight.
I would be concerned about the virtual buttons, but having had a play with a Steam controller recently I have to say the haptic feedback works well. It still takes a bit of getting used too, I'd probably prefer actual buttons, but it would be a great addition to their touch screen tech (which I hope they keep).
@rjejr Yes well apparently the source would have us believe it's an actual screen, but to me it looks very fake, like a sticker or something, like you said. There's no glow or reflection or diffusion of light or anything else of the sort.
@Ogbert
I'm not thinking, that this leak is real, BUT it is NOT unergonomic. I cut that shape from cardboard for pondering the design and concept in practice, and it is very pleasant to hold.
It think its pretty obvioius its fake from what I hear someone just took some footage for a UE4 tech demo and pasted it over the controller. Others say the pic is from the deep down trailer. Also several have pointed out there isnt any light reflecting off the sticks
@Kroko but what if the display wasn't meant to show the game itself but instead it showed things like buttons, HUD and toggles like rate of fire.
Just for sh*ts and giggles - if it's real I'll put money on this being a Metroid game. I'm picking up a Chozo Ruins vibe from the clearly obscure screenshot.
@TheRealThanos LOL
The joysticks don't look like they can move.....
@Sakura Thanks for the link, that was hilarious. Wouldn't be the same on a US talk show.
I do think something like that is going on here. When I stare into the lit up center it does look like falling down a hole, so my eyes see the nub that way when I look down, but looking across my eyes see both nubs poking out.
There's actually a cool Minecraft level w/ a giant green dinosaur w/ a concave head. They discuss how Disney World does this w/ it's haunted house ghosts b/c it is sort of a surreal look as it baffles our brains.
And if this is real, it will be baffling all of our brains, like WTF Nintendo?
@CB85 Thanks for the confirmation.
If real, Nintendo can shove it where the sun don't shine. I'm not gaming with that thing.
@abe_hikura
Totally possible. But that would be a lot of money, hardware resources and power consumption just for a basic interface.
But this would make it a successor to the WiiU GP and really wish they would keep trying. There's still a lot of potential in the second screen, especially for asymmetrical gameplay. I hope to see something similar next-gen.
@LUIGITORNADO
In Pokemon Moon?
I'm not sure if I think this is real or not, but it seems to be lacking good buttons.
That's the main reason I don't use my iPhone 6s Plus for gaming, it's lacking buttons. And I'm not into carrying a portable controller for my iPhone of the size of a Wii U pro controller everywhere I go. Apple don't care, they make enough money on people playing crappy games like Angry Birds and Fruit Ninja. They don't need the buttons. People don't buy an iPhone for the buttons.
Nintendo need their buttons or no one will buy their product. Just imagine the Wii U without buttons... But I actually believe Nintendo knows this.
Faker than when someone claimed the moon is made of swiss cheese.
The fact that the edges of the "screen" would be covered by the hands is reason enough to know this is either fake, or a prototype that lacks any ergonomic grips. Also, the device itself looks out of place compared to the rest of the image; as others have said in the above comments, most of the image looks very grainy/low res, while the device itself looks like it's been super imposed onto the picture. I wouldn't be too surprised if the general appearance of the final product winds up sharing some kind of similarity to this, though.
Definitely another wait and see moment... Although it looks like it could be a fingerprint magnet, so I'm not so sure about this design scheme without thumb styluses anyways. Even then, using a thumb stylus for the 3DS already stretches the thumb enough, it might present too wide an area for an entire touchscreen controller like this.
No comment from me regarding its authenticity. I'll wait here for E3. But I digress, my first thought upon seeing this was, "Kids who are rough with their gadgets might make short work of this controller's screen, ergo the entire controller. How durable would Nintendo make these things? The Game Boy could survive a trip to the washing machine, but this...I don't know."
Looks quite convincing as a photo. can't find much fault in it.
What's suspicious though, is that it's almost exactly like the patent.
The control sticks look really weird. They're more like nubs.
The lack of handles is confusing. How would you hold this?? Even the patent had them.
It could be a prototype photo, but I sure hope they make it a little more user friendly.
@Project_Dolphin "What's up with this small d-pad?" "Why are the shoulder buttons spring-loaded analog instead of digital? It's easier to just use 4 digital shoulder buttons than these!" "It looks like a weird boomerang!" "Ewwww, what's with those puke orange/baby purple colors? I won't get it unless it's in jet black!"
Remember these complaints about the GCN controller almost 15 years ago? ;P
Look at that B button. Definitely 'shopped. Verdict: FAKE.
I really hope this is fake!!!
If this is true, then RIP Nintendo NX 2016-2016.
Might as well say RIP Nintendo as well.
Absolutely fake and hopefully fake, it looks like E.T.
When N is focusing another time on a new way to control, they would make a big mistake.
Dunno if this has already been mentioned as I didn't get chance to read all the comments, but what's on the screen isn't "scruffy and random" it's a close up of this from the Unreal demo:
http://i.imgur.com/IFQjguB.png
Every logical part of my brain says that nobody could look and this controller and say "This is what we want for the NX". But at the same time that's sort of how I feel about the Wii U gamepad. I loved the Wii U but only for the amazing games that it had. I really hope the NX goes for a normal controller this time.
I am not skilled at deciphering these, but I REALLY HOPE IT IS A FAKE! I want buttons and I don't want my hands covering part of the screen. I can't imagine myself buying this and I bought the Wii U at launch and own 3 3DSes (Original, XL, and New XL) so it takes a lot to turn me off on Nintendo Hardware
@FragRed The picture is shown in the Iwata Asks series about the Wii U. Just Google it: it has more pictures of all the Wii U parts.
@VanillaLake Lol @ what? The GamePad pic?
@Wolfgabe @PorllM Yup, it's from this tech demo running on a smart phone with a Snapdragon processor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMcscM_Hogc
This is going to be an even bigger failure than the Wii controller. 20 years from now, there'll be a documentary about which landfill Nintendo dumped all of its NX controllers into.
At best its a proof of concept model, that's really all I can see it being used for, in practical terms it would awful to hold
I'll say this much: I'm definitely intrigued.
I'd say it's gotta be a fake. You never really see patent illustrations translate into the real world so precisely, even for a prototype. And if it's not just a really good photoshop job, then my next guess would be someone built that controller and photoshopped in the display image. But I could be totally wrong. I've been wrong before, I think.
Where are the octagonal grooves in the sticks? We've had those since GCN. The lack of those alone makes this smell fishy... Oh and the fact it looks like an image stuck on with a light shining overhead to give a poor impression of an actual screen. F.A.K.E! All day long.
If this is the NX controller, and if the NX controller doesn't have every button a pro controller does, then I'll be pissed. It's extremely ugly as well. The New 3DS will then have to be my last Nintendo system at least until they release another more traditional one...
@TheRealThanos It isn't a print of a screenshot stuck on a piece of plastic, if anyone is thinking that. It wouldn't look like that. It isn't a print of a photograph of a monitor taken at the same angle either according to my eyes, though if someone thinks it is possible to fake it this good, go ahead.
April Fools!
But really though, it just looks like someone did a mock-up of the patent image.
Another leak got us all talking, again. I think we're all starting to get the E3 fever.
@TheRealThanos Yes, the GamePad photo. What were they thinking?
@LemonSlice Ehm... I think you're confusing me with someone else, I never said this was a sticker or a picture, I only linked to a video that the screen capture on the controller was taken from. @rjejr mentioned it looked like a picture, not me.
@VanillaLake probably how to incorporate twin sticks, motion controls and rumble into a screen...
But seriously: most prototypes look ugly because nine out of ten times the technology or shape that companies are looking for isn't there yet, so they have to literally tape or glue things together.
If I'm not mistaken, the early prototype for the Balance Board was simply two scales strapped to each other...
Obviously this implementation isn't very good, but I still like the concept of screen-as-controller. I really like the idea of putting visual cues around the inputs. For example, in a 3D Zelda game, you often get a prompt onscreen with a picture of the button you should hit to trigger an action. It would be neat if the screen could actually light up the button itself, or put a little highlight around the button. Some games put a HUD on screen that has pictures of the relevant buttons and the assigned actions. In a concept like this, you wouldn't need such a thing.
If you make some ergonomic/layout adjustments and put physical buttons on the controller, there are some ideas to be explored here. Or if as a potential alternative to physical buttons, maybe just include some kind of bump on the screen with haptic feedback, sort of like Apple's "taptic" feedback on its newest Mac touchpads. The glass never moves, but I swear it feels exactly like clicking a button. It's virtually indistinguishable from a real button press.
Basically, to do away with physical buttons, you need two things: 1) the ability to feel the input area without looking at it, and 2) some kind of feedback to register a successful input.
@TheRealThanos Sorry, I was saying this in general to whoever might read: "if anyone is thinking that"
I was replying to your post because the video you linked to made me write that comment.
I think this is a fake, BTW, but I still think the concept is neat.
The controller is a fraud, saw imagery earlier of where it came from and it's not even a well made fake.
@LemonSlice No offense taken, I was just a bit confused as to why you addressed me...
Also, Nintendo always reverses its A & B buttons, so the button layout here is extremely un-Nintendo, suggesting, as others have said: FAKE.
@Churchy Funny, to me it looks like the canyon level from F-Zero. New F-Zero on NX CONFIRMED!
Please be fake.
There's no way this thing won't have handles. Remember the first Classic Controller for the Wii?
And on the odd change that this actually IS the new controller/handheld, then they might as well do an official showcase now, since they REALLY don't have to be afraid that either Microsoft or Sony would be willing to steal something so lousy...
I think it's pretty close to real... Nintendo would do something like this, and it will flop big time...
"What has really set alarm bells ringing here at the Nintendo Life office is the fact that this prototype is an almost exact copy of the image shown in the patent - normally, patent images are rather different from the final product, largely because companies are cautious about giving too much away at an early stage. The images are usually intended to give an idea of concept the patent is protecting, rather than showing exactly what the device will look like. So in this case, it could be that some cheeky scamp has taken the patent too literally and "faked" the controller."
Agreed. It's very suspicious that the controller looks completely identical to the patent, so it's almost certainly fake.
@Kirk Actually to me, if true the NX will be a serious downgrade from whichever Nintendo system is being replaced by it. The design is awful, the control sticks and your hands will cover alot of the screen, and no buttons would seriously make me consider not purchasing the system...
I hope it's fake because that looks terrible and I really hope that isn't what anything will look like. Give me a larger screen and PHYSICAL BUTTONS, but no reason for the screen to be oval or overlap with buttons
My guess is that it's a real Nintendo prototype of the controller they patented - but it's not for the NX. It's just something in the works for linger term.
@TheRealThanos Sony already stole it.
Ladies and gentleman the Vita 2.
What this looks like to me:
-on the go handheld
-at home u connect it with ur wii u and the additional horsepower allows it to work as a VR device (with additional unseen hardware)
-alternatively u can connect it directly to ur tv and the 'handheld' games would get converted to that aspect ratio/resolution
@TheRealThanos For Wii Balance Board they visited digital scales manufactures and thought how to use this technology for gaming. Eventually they just used four sensors and voilà, put them on a single big digital scale and Wii Balance Board is born.
Holy game reveals @earthboundlink you're right - to the Ninty Direct mobile!!!
Why would the leaker show an image of their product, knowing full well that they've entered a nondisclosure agreement?
It's either fake, or they planned on suffering repercussions.
Also: Why the blank box? Are they trying to hide the development kit? They've already leaked the controller, why hide that, too?
The first thing I noticed was the "screen". It looks like it's just a piece of plastic with a printed image on it.
Then I noticed that the analog sticks look like solid pieces of plastic that can't move.
So I think this is definitely fake.
@Madder128
You can see the B 'button'. Can't be upside down.
@VanillaLake Yeah, that was it, I had to look it up to see where I got the "two scales" bit from though:
Guess that sumo wrestler part of the story just stuck in my mind for some reason...
@Neko_Ichigofan I feel the same.
I dont know. It looks really bad too me. We will see very soon. E3 is coming up very fast. The year is flying by. I hope the NX is impressive. Thats all I hope for. Also that some 3rd parties get excited and come back, and also jump ship at Microsoft and Sony. That would be awesome. @Jools I asume you have a dev kit for the NX. I would give you a shiny new dollar if you tell us some tidbits about NX lol. Just joking
+Dazza and others, in case some one didn't already post it here, HEADS UP!
It's been found that the image on the controller screen in the photo is none other than a screen capture from a 2014 demo of Unreal Engine 4.
https://youtu.be/LMcscM_Hogc?t=6s
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/710852662447742977
@beazlen1 #143 "Where are the octagonal grooves in the sticks? We've had those since GCN. The lack of those alone makes this smell fishy..."
Have you by any chance played the Wii U?
Neither the Wii U GamePad nor the Pro Controller have the octagonal grooves. (I miss them too though)
Also, the N64 had the grooves too.
@Moshugan You might wanna take a look at comments #109, #133 and #138.
That is why I always read ALL the comments before posting something myself...
A touch screen controller hurt the WiiU considerably by raising the cost without a proportional benefit to gaming. If Nintendo releases another touch screen controller that is even more expensive than the WiiU's they are doomed. A screen that wraps around buttons is a novelty that wont impress the majority for very long.
@TheRealThanos Yeah, Edmond Honda surely needs two.
I know Wii Balance Board was underused and one of those Wii gimmicks that flooded the stores and not necessarily in a good way, but I used it a lot for Wii Fit/Plus and Shaun White Snowboarding World Stage. That Wii Fit Plus flying mini game, LOL, I've always dreamt I was flying waving my wings. I really enjoyed Wii Fit Plus exercises and mini games, and I still play sometimes.
EDIT: Also, Wii Fit Plus showed me how difficult is to keep perfect balance!
@VanillaLake Haha, yes indeed. But you shouldn't underestimate him: he was a master in motion controlled games:

Besides the obvious Wii Fit games, I myself played a lot of Shaun White games & Family Ski & Snowboard with the Balance Board. The latter actually being kind of strange, seeing as I don't have a family...
I'm almost 100% positive this is either a fake or a really early prototype model. They would never ditch buttons, and honestly, the controller looks insanely uncomfortable to hold. Not only that, but Nintendo would basically be repeating what failed the Wii U by including an expensive controller with the system with a screen on it. I'm not saying I'm against a free-form screen; the idea of it is very interesting to me. I just don't think it's practical in terms of a marketing perspective. We'll find out what Nintendo is doing at some point.
@TheRealThanos No big man is faster than that, for sure!
Sounds good. You can always play with friends, too. I don't have many real life friends that like video games but perhaps I find some eventually LOL
@VanillaLake That's a shame. I have more of a luxury problem: I actually have quite a lot of friends that like to play video games, but none of them live anywhere near me, so getting together is a bit of a chore, especially with me being the only single guy left...
@TheRealThanos Haha OK.
@TheRealThanos Figured as much.
Yeah, well. TL;DR for the comments.
This looks like a torture device worthy of the dungeons of the Dreadfort.
I wouldn't be surprise if Nntendo "leaks" these to see public reaction
@Moshugan TL:DR... Yeah, I guess some of them are. From time to time I also have a tendency to write walls of text that are almost bigger than the article inspiring them, but at the very least I hover over the comments just to get a quick and general overview of what has already been said, just so to not be the third or fourth person that says the same thing, unless it is simply a statement of agreeing with someone...
And to be fair to some posters of longer stories: they do bring up some interesting points from time to time, that may be just as enjoyable to read as the original article. Long texts often mean that they have put a lot of thought into them (I know I do anyway) and a big part of why I'm here, besides the Nintendo-related articles is the community.
Since I've registered here, I've come across quite a few interesting and genuinely nice people. And fortunately also quite a few that are able to hold their own in a hefty discussion...
@hendie001 there are totally buttons. It looks like there's at least two under the right joystick. Open the image on its own and zoom in. That sorta makes me think this is real.
Fake, fake, fake!!
Eliminating buttons might be the worst idea Nintendo has ever had. So I say fake...
the control sticks look like solid pieces of plastic that can't move.
(o_O )
I remember seeing this last year when I was searching, and I honestly don't believe it at all. It looks like the Wii classic controller with a large image on it (one that you wouldn't be able to see fully depending on how you would hold the controller), and it just looks plain awful. If this is the controller, I don't see it lasting. I doubt nintendo would make anything that bad. I'd love to see them with the gamecube controller, but not something weird or close to the N64's controller (which I found hard to get used to even to this day).
@abe_hikura
Ahh, point taken! But in terms of a virtual button layout, can't say I'm the biggest fan of that, just never had a good experience using it on say a smart phone or whatever. Just prefer real buttons from a tactile recognition standpoint.
I would be interested in seeing is some sort of customizable bordering of your screen and like around the sides with the thumbsticks. Artwork, patterns or whatever.
There's a lot of potential here for sure, and this design if real looks def. like a version 1 prototype. If they add some handles, that would be great!
Come on June!!!
@arnoldlayne83 There IS Physical buttoms on the pic. They are reflecting the screen too but you can see the volume/texture of the B buttom. Fake or not the patent had physical buttoms too and the idea is that the screen goes around and through it.
@Vhyper1985 You too, Look at the pic again. Fake or not there's an actual b buttom showing up volume, despite also reflecting the screen
Hopefully it's just a prototype mock up and not the real deal. I remember the original Nintendo DS looking like this different from the final design.
If this is true i'm moving to playstation
@FubumblR Yeah IF this is real, i'd say its a prototype for the display testing inputs. it's probably safe to think it's final form will have grips. those "scrollable shoulder buttons" from the other Patent. my friend reckons this one looks like it designed to fit in other things, like the horns are an add on.
If this is where they are going I would wager they will use haptic feedback to let you "feel" the button.
Whatever the nx ends up being,i'm getting it
I don't know what to think of it. It looks very strange, but of course its a prototype (if it is real). If its real, then we probably should see it in action before we can give a proper judgement. So far it looks just weird.
I hope it's not true, because I already hate it by looks alone. Having the joy sticks or whatever be on the screen partially blocking my view would get very annoying.
@TeslaChippie I sometimes get to work with neuroscientists researching the plasticity of the brain in traumatised individuals. We know already that the brains of traumatised children show "hard-wired hyperactivation" in specific areas and sub-optimal development of the amygdala in some cases. The same areas are affected in combat veterans with PTSD. All the quirky effects that trick the brain are a great help in seeing how the organ works. The only other avenue of research is determining which parts of the brain are responsible for what by looking at the pathology via a scan and linking that to the behaviour/difficulties exhibited by the patient. The brain is a marvellous thing indeed.
Doesn't look like something id want. The virtual buttons and the fact the extra amounts of screen that are "won" with this design will likely be covered by your hands makes me think this isn't the new Nintendo controller/handheld.
I don't think Nintendo would have gone to the effort of stream lining the controls for the wiiu and 3ds to then abandon buttons altogether
@Varoennauraa we'll have to agree to disagree on that. Sure an oval itself is not bad to hold but to play on, to move your fingers and thumbs about on whilst keeping a comfy grip? I don't find it comfortable. But then we don't know what the back looks like so maybe there is some thing back there that would make it ok? (speaking of which another thing that Steam controller had that was ace was triggers on the grips - so simple, so obvious, why has that not been done before!?)
Either way it's still a massively awkward shape to develop for,. If third parties didn't like the WiiU pad they're going to hate an oval shaped one that doesn't even have a standard set of buttons but rather ones that have to be programmed in. Those guys just want an easy system to port to and whether we as Nintendo fans, or Nintendo themselves, like it or not those guys are a big deal now.
This is an image from a Reddit poster who created his/her Reddit account 6 hours before posting the picture. It is clearly fake. The lighting is off, and the image on the "controller's" screen is ripped straight from an image from some random piece of Unreal Engine 4 software despite the fact that the photo of the "controller" is taken from an angle.
that looks so fake. 1. where the A,B,Y,X buttons? 2. how are you even suppose to play a game with two controller sticks?
if this becomes a thing (and i doubt it will). i won't buy it, and just continued support buying games on the Wii U.
@Zanark
I immediately liked the idea of the free form screen, as you can make a handheld device with controllers to have much bigger screen.
It is easy to try yourself. I cut that shape from cardboard, and the area that is obscured by your thumbs is very small, and is in peripheral vision anyway.
The area between the analog controllers is as big as the Wii U screen, but the extra peripheral vision makes it look massive and makes a handheld experience that much closer to a home console experience. This fan made video demonstrates it quite nicely:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=udkU101fFOk
I don't like the dea of having only virtual controls, but virtual controls, that are aided by physical buttons is ideal in my opinion, as virtual controls can be anything from just buttons to sliders. Also having a physical reference point next to virtual controls help to use them more reliably.
It's an elaborate fake. I wonder how they made it?
Lol I imagine this is fake. But if it turns out to be real, and Nintendo is just making funny looking controllers for the hell of it, I think I'll spend my money on PSVR instead and kiss my Nintendo fandom goodbye.
Well most of the screen would be covered anyway, so I can't see how this would work! And that image looks so fake!
The research has shown that the image wasn't largely photoshopped, but people forget that that is far from the only way to take the piss out of people. It's very possible that this device is a real thing that someone built and took a picture of for poos and chortles.
It's not quite the same thing, but Artsy Omni's leaks were said to be legit through the same system, as well.
As for the people who say it doesn't look very comfy: Nintendo isn't that strong in making controllers anymore in my opinion. I mean: The nes, snes, N64, Gamecube (the best), Wiimote and nunchuck, gb, gbc, gba, they all felt great. But the DS was the first one in my opinion that wasn't completely right. The 3DS has very weak shoulderbuttons. And the Wii u gamepad is terribly heavy. And the New 3DS has that awful second stick (wich is very stiff, and not a proper stick in my opinion).
Gamecube is the best: It was small, had every button you needed, felt great and had great rumble. Its still Nintendo's best. I mentioned rumble by the way because Nintendo's modern rumble is more noise then rumble. The gamecube controller on the other hand really vibrated!
I don't want to look at two different screens anymore to play my games... if we get something similar to the Wii U, where I have to look between two different screens, I'm out. No one wants it, Nintendo... people wanna look at the TV and become immersed, not pulled out of the experience... no more stupid gyro controls... no more needing to look away from my beautiful TV display to look at the crappy game pad display... just give me a controller and games or continue to fade into console obscurity.
@Project_Dolphin I think Nintendo will still give me the option for a "normal controller" - we did get the pro controller after all. I would rather the NX not be built entirely around the controller. I'd rather the innovation come from something different to the controls this time.
@Project_Dolphin I know but with the SNES, N64 and Gamecube the controller differences were a little less radical to the Wii and Wii U. I guess I'm worried about Nintendo pushing away third parties from making games for the system. I hope consumers will get the option of buying the console with the normal controller at a cheaper price point and can upgrade later if they want to. A bit like buying an XBox with or without a Kinect sensor.
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