Bring it on, I'm all up for Zelda games staring other characters. I know many people wanted a Sheik game that covered the 7 year time skip which was not the game Retro Studios proposed. The Tingle games exist in Japan. Ganondorf cameoing in Diablo. Lets see them go for it.
@LadyCharlie Wand of Gamelon and Zelda's adventure is where she's the only playable star, not that either of those games are anything to be proud of. But the warriors and cadence and even her bit in spirit tracks are totally agency on her part.
@Lizuka I'll acknowledge that you said most, but I wasn't referring to adaptations. If you're suggesting the classic Zelda's and classic Metroid plots were paper thin, back in the NES and SNES as well as the few odd balls now and then, I won't argue that. And I brought up Splatoon more for lore. I left out their platformers and party games because I know that claim applies to them.
Still, it doesn't really matter if what they adapt has so little or much plot to work with, if they're creating a brand new one altogether for whatever series they adapt.
@Lizuka Zelda, modern Metroid, Splatoon, and pretty much their entire catalog of action games and rpgs from FE, Xenoblade, Earthbound and the like have virtually no plot?
Maybe its one of the handhelds. We know it isn't Ocarina, Breath, or heck even Wind or Twilight. Those are cookie cutter answers. the gameboy or ds games are obscure enough to be hot but reviewed fine enough to be cold.
Edit: Lets not assume that whatever his favorite game is will be the plot of the movie
I'm expecting remakes, remasters or some spin offs. So maybe Mario sluggers, something like a port of Links crossbow training, a remaster of Diddy kong racing, or Kirby air ride 2. Switch is in its sunset year. Stuff like a new 3d Mario, 2d Zelda, DK, are being held off for extra dev time and will shine on a fresh new system.
Seriously? Activision and Skylanders are the reason this Donkey Kong game which sounds amazing by the way, never made it passed early development? Man Nintendo needs better partners and DK expansion gets going and gets visitors. Hopefully this prompts them.
Seems like the bad reviews of this show have the similar complaints about Sonic X. Where Chris was the one with the arc and Sonic and crew were side characters. Meanwhile the good reviews are looking at the show at face value.
@WaffleRaptor01 Focus regarding platformers and party games that maybe. But Nintendo is way more than just platformers. And even so, movies don't always need a deep interesting plots to be good or even great.
Of course, he's said as much before. I believe he will be but there's got to be execution with that ambition. Still with the planet of the apes movie. That will be his test. He deserves that much. Granted the real indication will be the trailer.
Haven't played a final fantasy. But 7 has to be the most milked game of the series. An observation not a complaint. I mean the original PS1 version, to the compilation, Advent Children, ever crisis, the remake soon to be trilogy. Now this even though fan made.
The only other game that comes close to having as much itterations of the same game is Links Awakening.
@PinderSchloss Thats because the first time they tried the big screen it burned them and Mario. Now we got a movie that represents Mario, acquired taste or not. If that doesn't prove Nintendo can't handle movies, I don't know what will.
@westman98 Derek Conley being the sole writer that might not even be the case. His name was leaked, not announced. There has to be way more than who we know at the moment.
I've always thought a more balanced tone is the way to go for a Zelda movie. Sophisticated but campy for those who want a serious movie and a light hearted one. Also Link being a man of few words for those who want Link to talk and be mute. Basically this movie we'll be a medium of desires.
At this point, the Zelda ports aren't happening. It made sense for them in 2022 when Tears was delayed and 2021 when it was the 35th anniversary? Same with Xenoblade X or the dream cast games. And at this point, why bother? The Switch 2 is almost here and it will need amo for it. When we're close to a new system, why bring out ports as a hold over when they can buzz on Switch 2.
I mean the snowmad tribe kind of was an invasion of DK island. And I know people miss the Kremlings but in hindsight, I give Retro credit for trying out new villains.
I've been expecting this. That they're save the ammunition and surprises for the next system while squeezing what they can out of the switch with other announcements.
Here's hoping following the park, we get a new game. Not another game with him sharing the spotlight with Mario. Maybe even a movie is in the works. It makes no sense that this would be all that Donkey Kong gets content wise.
While yes marketing the game is one thing, and CG trailers might be overplayed now a days. Who is expecting them to be better then movies, and why do they need to be to be worth it?
As if we weren't spoiled enough with that concert coming up this February. Now ZREO is back with the goodness. They were amazing with the Twilight Princess ost.
So many thoughts fly by this huh? -Aonuma is wearing construction gear, looking like he's advising the team. Maybe its an expansion for Zelda since he is the face of Zelda's development now. -He's a Nintendo producer so he may be involved with the park at large even without Legend stuff. -There were rumors that Zelda will be getting a theme park expansion after DK. Replacing Harry Potter I believe at epic universe which is where they actually are. -Why remove the video if it was nothing serious? -We don't know when this is, could've been during DK's expansion. -Universal's studios isn't working on the Zelda movie, why would Zelda get a theme park expansion? Got anything more to add?
@RadioHedgeFund It worked for Breath of the Wild. Nintendo respect the people who bought Wii U's for that game when it was first announced while giving the Switch a tentpole launch game that kicked off its success.
I've looked up SupermetelDave64 on the matter. I know the YouTubers who get this information. I wonder though if true, MP4 gets the trigger pulled in a direct, or is saved for the next gen Nintendo console and its set as a cross gen title like Breath of the Wild.
Funny. I'm surprised this is now being thought of before. Considering both Link in several games, and the Prince from the Sands of time trilogy both have time powers.
Its like the developer read my mind cause I was thinking the same thing at one point. Imagine how cool if Link played kind of like Sargon without the dual Wieding but uses a lot of different sword skills. I don't think I'd want a Zelda Metroidvania when we got Metroid. But a semi top down/side scroller like AoL Or a spin off staring Sheik.
@JR150 I feel going forward 8-9 from a series is too much. Mario, Pokemon and Fire Emblem are there now. But yes, The Zelda series could do without a Zelda form, and more Links being the representation. And Kirby does deserve another fighter. If Sakurai was or will be interested in taking from the games he didn't work on.
@JR150 I'm not suggesting Fire Emblem Heroes or the FE representation in Smash be discontinued. Although there is a case that FE is a little over represented. I'm saying that after engage for the next Gen Fire Emblems for. No more multiverse crossovers regarding past fire emblem protags. At least for the time being.
This was a great tactics RPGs. While a step back interms of story and writing from 3H. There was still a lot of charm that really carried this game along with the mechanics. That being said, I hope we don't get anymore celebrations of Fire Emblem's history for a long time. After doing that 3 times with the first Warriors game, Heroes and Engage. Heck technically Smash. Give it a break.
I guess its been long enough for a new remake of the game to be warranted depending on how they go about it. Cause there is so much quality of life in the 3ds version already beyond looking better.
@Fizza The article suggests that its companies beyond who they deal with. As for 2d Zelda and Capcom. Maybe but I get the feeling Grezzo is covering that after Links Awakening did so well like Mercury Steam got Metroid Dread after their Samus Returns.
Which studios are they in discussion with. This article suggests that there are more partnerships and they are expanding. Could it be ones that are more Sony and Microsofts partners?
The problems with using Wes Ball and Derek Connolly's past work against them for why they aren't qualified for this is that one. In especially Wes Balls case they were the first movies he directed, directors make mistakes and can learn from them. Second, we can pick out bad movies these people have worked on but not about why these movies sucked. In Derek Connolly's case, he was part of a team in RoS. Detective Pikachu, and Jurassic World. Unless we have the storyboard and the scripts by each writer, we're just singling out. Lastly what these people have done doesn't mean the Zelda movie will feel like them in spirit, look at the Mario Movie having the Teen Titans go creators and the minion movie writers. Did the Mario Movie feel like them and if they did was it the same quality?
While Zelda 1 is one of the few games that feel necessary to be remade. I feel like the next step for Zelda is a new top down game. All thats held top down at all are remakes of Links Awakening and the crypt of the necromancer spin off. We have Zelda 1 and the majority of top down Zelda on the Switch online already.
I'd put Tears Ganondorf over Ocarina and Twilight Ganondorf but I don't know if he passes Wind. Maybe because Matthew Mercer's voice gave him an edge. As a boss fight, thats where things kind of flip around. I haven't played some of these games in a while so my memory and recency might contaminate things in regards to Ganondorfs mechanical design while also thinking about visual and story design.
A side note, why is Ocarina Ganondorf and Smash Ultimate Ganondorf separately ranked? Ultimates design is Ocarina's version straight. What about that is from Twilight Princess?
I feel the same way. Dungeon building is more meticulous then level building in Mario. Yes there are programs for dungeon building, I'm aware. But the editor in Links Awakening showed that making a dungeon has a lot more to get right and has less right and more wrong ways to make one.
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Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings Animated Short Announced
@Vexx234 Yeah well thats probably a result of him planned to be a one and done character in adventure 2 to then changing minds due to fan demand.
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings Animated Short Announced
This sounds neat. If this is a prologue to Shadow in Generations. Stephanie Sheh as Maria, Ian Flynn is involved. All something to look forward to.
Re: Random: Danny DeVito Open To Voicing Wario In Mario Movie Sequel
A celebrate that makes sense for this film.
Re: Rumour: Princess Zelda May Take The Starring Role In An Upcoming Game
Bring it on, I'm all up for Zelda games staring other characters. I know many people wanted a Sheik game that covered the 7 year time skip which was not the game Retro Studios proposed. The Tingle games exist in Japan. Ganondorf cameoing in Diablo. Lets see them go for it.
Re: Rumour: Princess Zelda May Take The Starring Role In An Upcoming Game
@LadyCharlie Wand of Gamelon and Zelda's adventure is where she's the only playable star, not that either of those games are anything to be proud of. But the warriors and cadence and even her bit in spirit tracks are totally agency on her part.
Re: Chris Pratt Expects "Lots" Of Mario And Nintendo Movies Over The Next Decade
@Lizuka I'll acknowledge that you said most, but I wasn't referring to adaptations. If you're suggesting the classic Zelda's and classic Metroid plots were paper thin, back in the NES and SNES as well as the few odd balls now and then, I won't argue that. And I brought up Splatoon more for lore. I left out their platformers and party games because I know that claim applies to them.
Still, it doesn't really matter if what they adapt has so little or much plot to work with, if they're creating a brand new one altogether for whatever series they adapt.
Re: Chris Pratt Expects "Lots" Of Mario And Nintendo Movies Over The Next Decade
@Lizuka Zelda, modern Metroid, Splatoon, and pretty much their entire catalog of action games and rpgs from FE, Xenoblade, Earthbound and the like have virtually no plot?
Re: Random: Zelda Movie Director (Kind Of) Doesn't Want To Reveal His Favourite Game In The Series
Maybe its one of the handhelds. We know it isn't Ocarina, Breath, or heck even Wind or Twilight. Those are cookie cutter answers. the gameboy or ds games are obscure enough to be hot but reviewed fine enough to be cold.
Edit: Lets not assume that whatever his favorite game is will be the plot of the movie
Re: Nintendo Direct June 2024 Confirmed To Boost An Otherwise Quiet Year For Switch
I'm expecting remakes, remasters or some spin offs. So maybe Mario sluggers, something like a port of Links crossbow training, a remaster of Diddy kong racing, or Kirby air ride 2. Switch is in its sunset year. Stuff like a new 3d Mario, 2d Zelda, DK, are being held off for extra dev time and will shine on a fresh new system.
Re: Details Emerge Of A Cancelled Donkey Kong Project From Vicarious Visions
Seriously? Activision and Skylanders are the reason this Donkey Kong game which sounds amazing by the way, never made it passed early development? Man Nintendo needs better partners and DK expansion gets going and gets visitors. Hopefully this prompts them.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For The Knuckles Paramount+ TV Show
Seems like the bad reviews of this show have the similar complaints about Sonic X. Where Chris was the one with the arc and Sonic and crew were side characters. Meanwhile the good reviews are looking at the show at face value.
Re: Zelda Live-Action Movie Director Promises To Be "Ambitious"
@Gameplay4fun We know he will.
Re: Zelda Live-Action Movie Director Promises To Be "Ambitious"
@WaffleRaptor01 Focus regarding platformers and party games that maybe. But Nintendo is way more than just platformers. And even so, movies don't always need a deep interesting plots to be good or even great.
Re: Zelda Live-Action Movie Director Promises To Be "Ambitious"
Of course, he's said as much before. I believe he will be but there's got to be execution with that ambition. Still with the planet of the apes movie. That will be his test. He deserves that much. Granted the real indication will be the trailer.
Re: Feature: Why Play Final Fantasy VII Remake When You Could Play FFVII 'Demake'?
Haven't played a final fantasy. But 7 has to be the most milked game of the series. An observation not a complaint. I mean the original PS1 version, to the compilation, Advent Children, ever crisis, the remake soon to be trilogy. Now this even though fan made.
The only other game that comes close to having as much itterations of the same game is Links Awakening.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch's Game Boy Advance Library Later This Week
Nice add on and all but I'm still waiting for Metroid Zero Mission.
Re: Zelda Live-Action Movie Director: "I Want To Fulfil People's Greatest Desires"
@PinderSchloss Thats because the first time they tried the big screen it burned them and Mario. Now we got a movie that represents Mario, acquired taste or not. If that doesn't prove Nintendo can't handle movies, I don't know what will.
Re: Feature: 33 Games We're Surprised Still Aren't On Switch
@elpardo1984 I think of Zelda ports being how they pad time out for the next entry rather than keeping an old system a float.
Re: Zelda Live-Action Movie Director: "I Want To Fulfil People's Greatest Desires"
@westman98 Derek Conley being the sole writer that might not even be the case. His name was leaked, not announced. There has to be way more than who we know at the moment.
Re: Zelda Live-Action Movie Director: "I Want To Fulfil People's Greatest Desires"
I've always thought a more balanced tone is the way to go for a Zelda movie. Sophisticated but campy for those who want a serious movie and a light hearted one. Also Link being a man of few words for those who want Link to talk and be mute. Basically this movie we'll be a medium of desires.
Re: Feature: 33 Games We're Surprised Still Aren't On Switch
At this point, the Zelda ports aren't happening. It made sense for them in 2022 when Tears was delayed and 2021 when it was the 35th anniversary? Same with Xenoblade X or the dream cast games. And at this point, why bother? The Switch 2 is almost here and it will need amo for it. When we're close to a new system, why bring out ports as a hold over when they can buzz on Switch 2.
Re: Random: Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze Could Have Been About Alien Invaders
I mean the snowmad tribe kind of was an invasion of DK island. And I know people miss the Kremlings but in hindsight, I give Retro credit for trying out new villains.
Re: Mother 3 Is Coming To Nintendo Switch Online, But There's A Catch
Damn it Japan.
Re: Rumour: A Nintendo Direct Partner Showcase Will Reportedly Drop Next Week
I've been expecting this. That they're save the ammunition and surprises for the next system while squeezing what they can out of the switch with other announcements.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess Manga Series Is Getting A Box Set
I'd like them to color it or make it a tv series.
Re: Anniversary: Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Is Now A Decade Old
Here's hoping following the park, we get a new game. Not another game with him sharing the spotlight with Mario. Maybe even a movie is in the works. It makes no sense that this would be all that Donkey Kong gets content wise.
Re: Random: Sakurai Takes A Stand Against CGI Game Trailers
While yes marketing the game is one thing, and CG trailers might be overplayed now a days. Who is expecting them to be better then movies, and why do they need to be to be worth it?
Re: ZREO Is Revisiting Zelda: Twilight Symphony With An 80-Piece Orchestra
As if we weren't spoiled enough with that concert coming up this February. Now ZREO is back with the goodness. They were amazing with the Twilight Princess ost.
Re: Eiji Aonuma Has Been Spotted Alongside Miyamoto At Universal Studios Japan
So many thoughts fly by this huh?
-Aonuma is wearing construction gear, looking like he's advising the team. Maybe its an expansion for Zelda since he is the face of Zelda's development now.
-He's a Nintendo producer so he may be involved with the park at large even without Legend stuff.
-There were rumors that Zelda will be getting a theme park expansion after DK. Replacing Harry Potter I believe at epic universe which is where they actually are.
-Why remove the video if it was nothing serious?
-We don't know when this is, could've been during DK's expansion.
-Universal's studios isn't working on the Zelda movie, why would Zelda get a theme park expansion?
Got anything more to add?
Re: Nintendo To Broadcast The Legend Of Zelda Orchestra Concert For Free
I can't wait. Its not the Zelda goddess symphony tour but looking forward to this.
Re: Metroid Prime 4 Development Updates Seemingly Discovered
@RadioHedgeFund It worked for Breath of the Wild. Nintendo respect the people who bought Wii U's for that game when it was first announced while giving the Switch a tentpole launch game that kicked off its success.
Re: Metroid Prime 4 Development Updates Seemingly Discovered
I've looked up SupermetelDave64 on the matter. I know the YouTubers who get this information. I wonder though if true, MP4 gets the trigger pulled in a direct, or is saved for the next gen Nintendo console and its set as a cross gen title like Breath of the Wild.
Re: Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown Dev Would "Love" To Make A Zelda Game
Funny. I'm surprised this is now being thought of before. Considering both Link in several games, and the Prince from the Sands of time trilogy both have time powers.
Re: Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown Dev Would "Love" To Make A Zelda Game
Its like the developer read my mind cause I was thinking the same thing at one point. Imagine how cool if Link played kind of like Sargon without the dual Wieding but uses a lot of different sword skills. I don't think I'd want a Zelda Metroidvania when we got Metroid. But a semi top down/side scroller like AoL Or a spin off staring Sheik.
Re: Fire Emblem Engage Artist Celebrates First Anniversary With New Artwork
@JR150 I feel going forward 8-9 from a series is too much. Mario, Pokemon and Fire Emblem are there now. But yes, The Zelda series could do without a Zelda form, and more Links being the representation. And Kirby does deserve another fighter. If Sakurai was or will be interested in taking from the games he didn't work on.
Re: Fire Emblem Engage Artist Celebrates First Anniversary With New Artwork
@JR150 I'm not suggesting Fire Emblem Heroes or the FE representation in Smash be discontinued. Although there is a case that FE is a little over represented. I'm saying that after engage for the next Gen Fire Emblems for. No more multiverse crossovers regarding past fire emblem protags. At least for the time being.
Re: Fire Emblem Engage Artist Celebrates First Anniversary With New Artwork
This was a great tactics RPGs. While a step back interms of story and writing from 3H. There was still a lot of charm that really carried this game along with the mechanics. That being said, I hope we don't get anymore celebrations of Fire Emblem's history for a long time. After doing that 3 times with the first Warriors game, Heroes and Engage. Heck technically Smash. Give it a break.
Re: Nintendo Donating 50 Million Yen To Aid Japan's Earthquake Victims
Classic Nintendo, one of the reasons we follow you.
Re: Review: Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown (Switch) - Slick, Stylish, And 2024's First Must-Play
I just got the game but haven't started yet. Looks cool. I see many comparing this game to Metroid Dread. I'll see how accurate that is.
Re: Random: Wait, Is Ocarina Of Time 3D Old Now?
I guess its been long enough for a new remake of the game to be warranted depending on how they go about it. Cause there is so much quality of life in the 3ds version already beyond looking better.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Seeking More Studios To Work On Its IP
@Fizza The article suggests that its companies beyond who they deal with. As for 2d Zelda and Capcom. Maybe but I get the feeling Grezzo is covering that after Links Awakening did so well like Mercury Steam got Metroid Dread after their Samus Returns.
Re: Nintendo Reportedly Seeking More Studios To Work On Its IP
Which studios are they in discussion with. This article suggests that there are more partnerships and they are expanding. Could it be ones that are more Sony and Microsofts partners?
Re: Sony CEO Drums Up Hype For Nintendo's Zelda Movie
@GooseLoose1 The Mario movie had some substance. Its just not enough that it gets ignored altogether.
Re: Sony CEO Drums Up Hype For Nintendo's Zelda Movie
The problems with using Wes Ball and Derek Connolly's past work against them for why they aren't qualified for this is that one. In especially Wes Balls case they were the first movies he directed, directors make mistakes and can learn from them. Second, we can pick out bad movies these people have worked on but not about why these movies sucked. In Derek Connolly's case, he was part of a team in RoS. Detective Pikachu, and Jurassic World. Unless we have the storyboard and the scripts by each writer, we're just singling out. Lastly what these people have done doesn't mean the Zelda movie will feel like them in spirit, look at the Mario Movie having the Teen Titans go creators and the minion movie writers. Did the Mario Movie feel like them and if they did was it the same quality?
Re: Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown Switch Frame Rate, Resolution & Accessibility Revealed
@EVIL-C I know, I was exposed to Two Thrones first. And learned about its 2d roots after I found out about the rest of the sands of time trilogy.
Re: Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown Switch Frame Rate, Resolution & Accessibility Revealed
Two thrones sold me on 3d Prince of Persia. I'll find out if Lost Crown can convince me about 2d Prince of Persia.
Re: Soapbox: It's Time For A Zelda 1 Remake, Please
While Zelda 1 is one of the few games that feel necessary to be remade. I feel like the next step for Zelda is a new top down game. All thats held top down at all are remakes of Links Awakening and the crypt of the necromancer spin off. We have Zelda 1 and the majority of top down Zelda on the Switch online already.
Re: Feature: Which Zelda Game Has The Best Ganondorf? Every Design Ranked By You
I'd put Tears Ganondorf over Ocarina and Twilight Ganondorf but I don't know if he passes Wind. Maybe because Matthew Mercer's voice gave him an edge. As a boss fight, thats where things kind of flip around. I haven't played some of these games in a while so my memory and recency might contaminate things in regards to Ganondorfs mechanical design while also thinking about visual and story design.
A side note, why is Ocarina Ganondorf and Smash Ultimate Ganondorf separately ranked? Ultimates design is Ocarina's version straight. What about that is from Twilight Princess?
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Wins Another 'Game Of The Year' Award
Congrats and well deserved.
Re: Zelda Producer Explains Why A Mario Maker Style Game Probably Won't Work
I feel the same way. Dungeon building is more meticulous then level building in Mario. Yes there are programs for dungeon building, I'm aware. But the editor in Links Awakening showed that making a dungeon has a lot more to get right and has less right and more wrong ways to make one.