I hope nobody has thoughts of Game of Thrones as a style or adaptation choice for the series. If any series goes that route, its Fire Emblem. Regarding Patricia Summerset, I don't have ToTK yet. I anticipate her performance. If this is the last time we see this Zelda in this Hyrule. Then I wonder about the future of Voice acting.
You mean the kind of backlash we had about Detective Pikachu, Sonic, and Mario pre premier and let go of post premier. Though I guess the skepticism was kind of warranted given video game movie's track records before.
@PikaPhantom They had plenty of dialogue if you take the other media. The DIC shows, DK's 80s and 2000s show. Like its not like Nintendo's characters haven't been represented in different art forms before the Mario Movie.
I've said each time this was brought up. Zelda and Metroid keep being brought up as potential candidates because they've had movie DNA in early years. Several of their games are based off movies like Lord of the Rings and Alien. And even if they're only semi story driven, they are known for having world building, elements, lore, material.
Also think from an ironic perspective. Mario, Pokemon, and Sonic, each silly series featuring little mascots can be made into movies and prove themselves and find success as movies. Yet the more sophisticated properties like Zelda and Metroid which have movie DNA in them haven't even got a chance.
@Jalex__64 @arabiansanchez Its only been one month. Sales were for end of March and the remaster came out at the middle of February. That's actually pretty impressive for Metroid but yeah, by other IP remaster standards. Links Awakenings remake hit 3 mil in a fraction of that time.
I figure the girls are going to get the highest votes. Its the same way in the Japan too. Aonuma favors Mipha while Fujibayashi favors Urbosa. Which I get, the gerudo desert and Zora's domain get the most story of the 4 realms. And their champions have a high relationship with Link and Zelda.
@FirstEmperor No that would be the Mario OVA, the great mission to rescue princess peach. back in 1986, it like Animal Crossing also didn't release outside of Japan.
@Eggolor One reason for taking a different group for other IP is because Universal's divisions and subsidiaries are diverse in specialties and styles. Much like Nintendo, their IP and studios specialize in different genres in gameplay, tones in story, and designs in visuals. They might see Illumination working for Mario since that universe has always been fun and silly but might feel someone else in Universal might be better for tackling something serious. And the last thing they want is to screw up their brand. That's why Miyamoto was on the project with Illumination, he didn't just give them the keys. Maybe other game directors will work with whatever studios. Maybe Aonuma gets a say and works with whatever universal studio does Zelda. Them or Nintendo Pictures
@AtlanteanMan I don't know about Halo but regarding Metroid and Samus. They aren't in the same boat. Link is a collection of characters with different designs and origins, Samus is a continuous hero inspired by Alien's Ellen Rippley, a movie character.
Regarding Other M itself, was Samus writing, voice, and characterization rejected because of the concept or execution? Cause looking beyond on what she already had in prior games and material and now dread which seemed to go over fine tells me it was the latter. I just considered that if they never attempted to explore Samus or the Chief, keeping them as they were in their first game, faceless soldiers that do nothing but shoot stuff and nothing else.Then they might've stagnated, and fallen out of favor over time. And If they really wanted Samus or Master chief to work as true avatars, they probably shouldn't of made them human characters in suits with origins to begin with.
It’s tricky. My first Zelda game being Wind Waker. The game where Link was probably the most expressive, saying “cmon”. Or his text dialogue in Awakening or Zelda 2. They made sense because it was how the player would react.
In TOTK, I’d like them to use the dialogue options when cutscenes more especially now that they’re voiced. Except in other media like Shows, Mangas and Movies have different rules. Where they have to consider what works for them. If Link talking in them then so be it.
First Link and now Ganondorf getting the. This isn't new with Ganon, he's always been beefy. We're just now seeing skin exposure. Nevertheless, both Link and Ganondorf earned their spots on that watchmojo 10 sexiest Zelda characters list.
@RiasGremory Either her parents and the chozo being the opening before the mission or their being depicted through flashbacks. Either way the manga material being integrated in appropriate moments keeps everyone on their toes.
Regarding Mario and Co. Donkey Kong, Luigi, Wario, Toad, Yoshi and others that share his universe but star in other games can keep Illumination.
Regarding other brands like Metroid, Zelda, Star Fox, Animal Crossing or Pikmin. If they decide to give them movies, give them to Nintendo Pictures or some other studios that specialize in the tones of those games given they differ wildly from the Marioverses hijinx and wackiness..
@RiasGremory Sure. But I’d rather the whole film not be 100 percent mission. I also want context. The chozo, her parents, Ridley. All being a minor but just enough to keep the film varied
I could see Donkey Kong, Luigi's Mansion, Yoshi and maybe Kirby working well with Illumination. Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, or any other IP that could have a good shot at cinema. Please go with someone else or use that Nintendo Pictures studio you acquired.
Maybe not great but some of them being remarkable, and having great moments in them. And even if they weren't, an original story that isn't adapting any of the games, creating its own plot with its own that uses elements from the games like characters and settings wouldn't have to worry about it. Since we don't know the details.
I know folks are waiting for Odyssey 2 but I'm honestly more interested in a new side scroller that isn't the "New" series. While the next big budget platformer game is actually Donkey Kong hopefully.
Sounds like this movie isn't the dumbster fire everyone claimed it was going to be, at least its going better than the Bob Hoskins film. I mean, I get video game films have got a bad rep, even with the few decent exceptions. But Sonic, Detective Pikachu, and now the 3rd Mario Movie look to be breaking that cycle. By reputation anyway.
Kirby may have gotten more love for his anniversary than any of the other series combined. We got the first true mainline 3d game, a racing spin off, a wiimaster, along with a slew of classics for the online service.
We also got the show getting blueray, the symphony, bunch of merch, the cafe adding to their menu. Comparing all that to Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Sonic and Metroid which all got something but not nowhere near that much respect.
You should've brought up The gameboy Zelda's Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks If they're more of the same. Granted if they were all made around Tears of the Kingdom was made and released. Wonder if the accusation of being DLC would apply. Its easy to make judgements of a game that we only saw brief footage of in trailers.
Wonder if people who have been salty that Charles Martinet is not playing Mario on the pretext that "he's always been Mario" ever since the announcement, are folks that never knew of the Super Show or live action movie. Cpt Lou Albano, Walker Boone and Bob Hoskins all predate Charles. You don't have to like Chris Pratt and you can glorify Martinet all you want. I'm just saying know if your pretext is the truth.
While I liked the new mechanics of what I saw with the ultra hand runes, the recall and combining of monster parts and objects. I don’t think they needed to announce a 10 minute showing of gameplay footage. They couldve just dropped a 3-5 minute trailer elaborating on these new mechanics. It’s all good stuff but not really stuff you hype up like this.
Great game and a valuable lesson. It doesn’t matter if an action adventure is linear or open but how it goes about them.. Fusion doubles down on the environmental puzzles while throwing some urgency with the SA X and crumbling space station. Also props for this game fleshing out Samus during the elevator monologues and the ending screens.
Edit: I don’t get either con this review lists of linearity, and not adding much to the series. It added the Samus doppelgänger, stalker, Adam, Horror, real characterization for Samus. Stuff that Dread, later prime games and Other M would adopt.
Well that's usually the dynamic for both. Metroid always resonated more with the west with the east always being in Kirby's corner. Sure there are players from the opposite that might like or be interested in both. But in the grand scheme of things. Both have regional bias and support.
@CJD87 For your information. There have been revivals since 2021, just not the series you’d think about. Smaller stuff, like advanced wars, famicom detective club, 2d Metroid, Pikmin. Just none of them being Star Fox, F Zero, Wave Race, or kid Icarus. And 2022 had no ports or remasters whatsoever which was actually a common complaint. No Metroid Prime remastered, no Wind Waker or Twilight Princess.
I question why Starlink is featured and 64 3d is in a separate position. Same game with better graphics and portability. All that said not bad a list. I’d put Assault and Starfox 2 over Adventures and Starlink.
Would love to see a new Starfox game modernized. One that takes inspiration from either Assault, Starlink, or 2. The 64 way can still be there but can’t be the backbone but maybe a side mode. Things are different now In the 20s. Just please don’t rehash lylat wars again.
Nice to see this game get its debut, hopefully Zero Mission comes over as well, haven't played that one yet. All that said. Crazy how history repeats itself. Metroid Prime and Fusion come out together around the same time again just like they did 20 years ago. Its not the same day different system like 2002 but they're close enough.
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Re: Zelda's Tears Of The Kingdom VA Took Inspiration From The Hit HBO Show "Game Of Thrones"
I hope nobody has thoughts of Game of Thrones as a style or adaptation choice for the series. If any series goes that route, its Fire Emblem. Regarding Patricia Summerset, I don't have ToTK yet. I anticipate her performance. If this is the last time we see this Zelda in this Hyrule. Then I wonder about the future of Voice acting.
Re: Eiji Aonuma "Interested" In Zelda Movie After Mario's $1 Billion Box Office Success
@KingBowser Well Sakamoto wants a Metroid Movie someday much like Aonuma would advocate for Zelda.
Re: Eiji Aonuma "Interested" In Zelda Movie After Mario's $1 Billion Box Office Success
@fenlix You never know. Maybe Nintendo pictures does.
Re: Eiji Aonuma "Interested" In Zelda Movie After Mario's $1 Billion Box Office Success
@GravyTrayn Link having Ganon's voice? (VA) and Matt Mercer playing both the hero and villain? Quite the thoughts.
Re: Eiji Aonuma "Interested" In Zelda Movie After Mario's $1 Billion Box Office Success
@Rambler recently awhile ago.
You mean the kind of backlash we had about Detective Pikachu, Sonic, and Mario pre premier and let go of post premier. Though I guess the skepticism was kind of warranted given video game movie's track records before.
Re: Eiji Aonuma "Interested" In Zelda Movie After Mario's $1 Billion Box Office Success
@PikaPhantom They had plenty of dialogue if you take the other media. The DIC shows, DK's 80s and 2000s show. Like its not like Nintendo's characters haven't been represented in different art forms before the Mario Movie.
Re: Eiji Aonuma "Interested" In Zelda Movie After Mario's $1 Billion Box Office Success
@Rambler Like they gave Mario and company their game actors?
Edit: They've given them personalities already. Since Wind Waker, in the manga, the cartoon. None of that is new.
Re: Eiji Aonuma "Interested" In Zelda Movie After Mario's $1 Billion Box Office Success
I've said each time this was brought up. Zelda and Metroid keep being brought up as potential candidates because they've had movie DNA in early years. Several of their games are based off movies like Lord of the Rings and Alien. And even if they're only semi story driven, they are known for having world building, elements, lore, material.
Also think from an ironic perspective. Mario, Pokemon, and Sonic, each silly series featuring little mascots can be made into movies and prove themselves and find success as movies. Yet the more sophisticated properties like Zelda and Metroid which have movie DNA in them haven't even got a chance.
Re: Yes, Monolith Soft Really Did Help Out With Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom
We already knew about that. They said they were working before and it would be dumb of Nintendo to drop them from the project.
Re: Here Are The Top Ten Best-Selling Nintendo Switch Games As Of March 2023
@Jalex__64 @arabiansanchez Its only been one month. Sales were for end of March and the remaster came out at the middle of February. That's actually pretty impressive for Metroid but yeah, by other IP remaster standards. Links Awakenings remake hit 3 mil in a fraction of that time.
Re: Random: 'Sonic 5' Is Trending, And No, It Doesn't Mean 'Sonic 5' Is Definitely A Thing
Sonics Metroid Dread moment
Re: Poll: Who's Your Favourite Champion In Zelda: Breath Of The Wild?
I figure the girls are going to get the highest votes. Its the same way in the Japan too. Aonuma favors Mipha while Fujibayashi favors Urbosa. Which I get, the gerudo desert and Zora's domain get the most story of the 4 realms. And their champions have a high relationship with Link and Zelda.
Re: Mario Movie Crosses $1 Billion Mark At The Global Box Office
@FirstEmperor No that would be the Mario OVA, the great mission to rescue princess peach. back in 1986, it like Animal Crossing also didn't release outside of Japan.
Re: Review: Xenoblade Chronicles 3: Future Redeemed - A Stunning Denouement, Utterly Essential
I want to play but I’m still working on FE Engage and Minish Cap. I’m probably going to be on this and Tears of the kingdom with split time.
Re: Nintendo's Future Is Focused On New IP And "Staple Series"
This story really didn't age well. In 2021 or 2022
Re: Mario's Creator Shigeru Miyamoto Teases More Nintendo Movies
They’ll follow what inspires them. Hopefully they really think about how they approach.
Re: Talking Point: Which Nintendo Franchise Should Illumination Tackle Next?
@alexw What about anime
Re: Talking Point: Which Nintendo Franchise Should Illumination Tackle Next?
@Eggolor One reason for taking a different group for other IP is because Universal's divisions and subsidiaries are diverse in specialties and styles. Much like Nintendo, their IP and studios specialize in different genres in gameplay, tones in story, and designs in visuals. They might see Illumination working for Mario since that universe has always been fun and silly but might feel someone else in Universal might be better for tackling something serious. And the last thing they want is to screw up their brand. That's why Miyamoto was on the project with Illumination, he didn't just give them the keys. Maybe other game directors will work with whatever studios. Maybe Aonuma gets a say and works with whatever universal studio does Zelda. Them or Nintendo Pictures
Re: Talking Point: Should Link Have Voice Acting In The Next Zelda Game?
@AtlanteanMan I don't know about Halo but regarding Metroid and Samus. They aren't in the same boat. Link is a collection of characters with different designs and origins, Samus is a continuous hero inspired by Alien's Ellen Rippley, a movie character.
Regarding Other M itself, was Samus writing, voice, and characterization rejected because of the concept or execution? Cause looking beyond on what she already had in prior games and material and now dread which seemed to go over fine tells me it was the latter. I just considered that if they never attempted to explore Samus or the Chief, keeping them as they were in their first game, faceless soldiers that do nothing but shoot stuff and nothing else.Then they might've stagnated, and fallen out of favor over time. And If they really wanted Samus or Master chief to work as true avatars, they probably shouldn't of made them human characters in suits with origins to begin with.
Re: Talking Point: Should Link Have Voice Acting In The Next Zelda Game?
It’s tricky. My first Zelda game being Wind Waker. The game where Link was probably the most expressive, saying “cmon”. Or his text dialogue in Awakening or Zelda 2. They made sense because it was how the player would react.
In TOTK, I’d like them to use the dialogue options when cutscenes more especially now that they’re voiced. Except in other media like Shows, Mangas and Movies have different rules. Where they have to consider what works for them. If Link talking in them then so be it.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Ganondorf Voice Actor Revealed As Matthew Mercer
@Varkster Nintendo had main voice acting in their games long before FE or XB. Since the mid 90s. Its just some series started later then others.
Re: Poll: Which Is The Best Ganondorf?
You ought to post this poll after Tears of the Kingdom comes out. So we can find out about him.
Re: Random: Of Course People Are Thirsty For Ganondorf In Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom
First Link and now Ganondorf getting the. This isn't new with Ganon, he's always been beefy. We're just now seeing skin exposure. Nevertheless, both Link and Ganondorf earned their spots on that watchmojo 10 sexiest Zelda characters list.
Re: Nintendo Live 2023: Dates, Everything You Need To Know
Where in Seattle and when in September is the important question
Re: Nintendo Live 2023 Announced For Seattle In September
My town huh? Where in Seattle though, the Seattle Center or the Convention Center?
Re: Feature: Best Rabbits In Games
Happy easter Nintendolife
Re: Mario Movie Continues To Smash Global Box Office Records In Opening Weekend
@RiasGremory Either her parents and the chozo being the opening before the mission or their being depicted through flashbacks. Either way the manga material being integrated in appropriate moments keeps everyone on their toes.
Re: Miyamoto Talks About Other Nintendo Movies, Says There's "Probably Nothing To Announce In The Near Future"
Regarding Mario and Co. Donkey Kong, Luigi, Wario, Toad, Yoshi and others that share his universe but star in other games can keep Illumination.
Regarding other brands like Metroid, Zelda, Star Fox, Animal Crossing or Pikmin. If they decide to give them movies, give them to Nintendo Pictures or some other studios that specialize in the tones of those games given they differ wildly from the Marioverses hijinx and wackiness..
Re: Mario Movie Continues To Smash Global Box Office Records In Opening Weekend
@RiasGremory Sure. But I’d rather the whole film not be 100 percent mission. I also want context. The chozo, her parents, Ridley. All being a minor but just enough to keep the film varied
Re: Mario Movie Continues To Smash Global Box Office Records In Opening Weekend
@RiasGremory yeah and Zelda, preferably with different studios and art styles that fit the various tones of these games
Re: Mario Movie Just The Beginning Of Nintendo & Illumination's "Rewarding Collaboration"
I could see Donkey Kong, Luigi's Mansion, Yoshi and maybe Kirby working well with Illumination. Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, or any other IP that could have a good shot at cinema. Please go with someone else or use that Nintendo Pictures studio you acquired.
Re: Miyamoto Talks About Other Nintendo Movies, Says There's "Probably Nothing To Announce In The Near Future"
Maybe not great but some of them being remarkable, and having great moments in them. And even if they weren't, an original story that isn't adapting any of the games, creating its own plot with its own that uses elements from the games like characters and settings wouldn't have to worry about it. Since we don't know the details.
Re: Miyamoto Talks About Other Nintendo Movies, Says There's "Probably Nothing To Announce In The Near Future"
@Poco_Lypso Tell that to Zelda, Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Metroid, and Mario RPG's.
Re: Miyamoto Talks About Other Nintendo Movies, Says There's "Probably Nothing To Announce In The Near Future"
The classic we don't want you or us to think about future projects. Focus on this right now answer.
Re: Miyamoto On New Mario Game: "Please Stay Tuned For Future Nintendo Directs"
I know folks are waiting for Odyssey 2 but I'm honestly more interested in a new side scroller that isn't the "New" series. While the next big budget platformer game is actually Donkey Kong hopefully.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For The Super Mario Bros. Movie, And They're All Over The Place
I don't really understand what some of these reviews are saying interns of their verdicts.
Re: Round Up: The First Impressions Of The Super Mario Bros. Movie Are In
Sounds like this movie isn't the dumbster fire everyone claimed it was going to be, at least its going better than the Bob Hoskins film. I mean, I get video game films have got a bad rep, even with the few decent exceptions. But Sonic, Detective Pikachu, and now the 3rd Mario Movie look to be breaking that cycle. By reputation anyway.
Re: Nintendo Is Officially Done With Kirby's 30th Anniversary Celebrations
Kirby may have gotten more love for his anniversary than any of the other series combined. We got the first true mainline 3d game, a racing spin off, a wiimaster, along with a slew of classics for the online service.
We also got the show getting blueray, the symphony, bunch of merch, the cafe adding to their menu.
Comparing all that to Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Sonic and Metroid which all got something but not nowhere near that much respect.
Re: Chris Pratt Defends "The Voices" In The Mario Movie
@demacho The part about Chris Pratt isn't true, he's voice acted for the lego movies, onward, ben 10.
Re: Soapbox: Nobody Does 'More Of The Same' Better Than Nintendo
You should've brought up
The gameboy Zelda's
Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks
If they're more of the same. Granted if they were all made around Tears of the Kingdom was made and released. Wonder if the accusation of being DLC would apply. Its easy to make judgements of a game that we only saw brief footage of in trailers.
Re: Chris Pratt Defends "The Voices" In The Mario Movie
Wonder if people who have been salty that Charles Martinet is not playing Mario on the pretext that "he's always been Mario" ever since the announcement, are folks that never knew of the Super Show or live action movie. Cpt Lou Albano, Walker Boone and Bob Hoskins all predate Charles. You don't have to like Chris Pratt and you can glorify Martinet all you want. I'm just saying know if your pretext is the truth.
Re: Poll: What Did You Think Of The New Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Trailer?
While I liked the new mechanics of what I saw with the ultra hand runes, the recall and combining of monster parts and objects. I don’t think they needed to announce a 10 minute showing of gameplay footage. They couldve just dropped a 3-5 minute trailer elaborating on these new mechanics. It’s all good stuff but not really stuff you hype up like this.
Re: Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom Gameplay Trailer Drops Tomorrow, 28th March 2023
At 7, alright. A lot is writing on this.
Re: Legendary Zelda Producer Eiji Aonuma Has Turned 60 This Week
Tanjoubi Omedetou Gozaimasu, Aonuma san. Hope you had a great one. 60 huh?, Thought he was older for some reason.
Re: The Final Super Mario Bros. Movie Trailer Is An Action-Packed Thrill Ride
This is looking to be Mario's redemption act after the 1993 screw up.
Re: Review: Metroid Fusion - An Infectious, Portable Pleasure
Great game and a valuable lesson. It doesn’t matter if an action adventure is linear or open but how it goes about them.. Fusion doubles down on the environmental puzzles while throwing some urgency with the SA X and crumbling space station. Also props for this game fleshing out Samus during the elevator monologues and the ending screens.
Edit: I don’t get either con this review lists of linearity, and not adding much to the series. It added the Samus doppelgänger, stalker, Adam, Horror, real characterization for Samus. Stuff that Dread, later prime games and Other M would adopt.
Re: Japanese Charts: Metroid Prime Remastered Debuts In Top Ten While Kirby Keeps Dominating
Well that's usually the dynamic for both. Metroid always resonated more with the west with the east always being in Kirby's corner. Sure there are players from the opposite that might like or be interested in both. But in the grand scheme of things. Both have regional bias and support.
Re: Star Fox Character Designer Celebrates 30th Anniversary With Special Artwork
@CJD87 For your information. There have been revivals since 2021, just not the series you’d think about. Smaller stuff, like advanced wars, famicom detective club, 2d Metroid, Pikmin. Just none of them being Star Fox, F Zero, Wave Race, or kid Icarus. And 2022 had no ports or remasters whatsoever which was actually a common complaint. No Metroid Prime remastered, no Wind Waker or Twilight Princess.
Re: Best Star Fox Games Of All Time
I question why Starlink is featured and 64 3d is in a separate position. Same game with better graphics and portability. All that said not bad a list. I’d put Assault and Starfox 2 over Adventures and Starlink.
Would love to see a new Starfox game modernized. One that takes inspiration from either Assault, Starlink, or 2. The 64 way can still be there but can’t be the backbone but maybe a side mode. Things are different now In the 20s. Just please don’t rehash lylat wars again.
Re: Nintendo Expands Its Switch Online Game Boy Advance Service March 9th
Nice to see this game get its debut, hopefully Zero Mission comes over as well, haven't played that one yet. All that said. Crazy how history repeats itself. Metroid Prime and Fusion come out together around the same time again just like they did 20 years ago. Its not the same day different system like 2002 but they're close enough.