Really hope we get a few non sonic characters back. Going from Transformed to Team Sonic racing gave me a feeling I'd feel if Smash brothers stripped every series representation except the Mario universe and that would be the only series put in. Bring back the Nights, Shenmue, Monkey Ball, and Skies of Arcadia stuff. Even Riders had Nights, the monkeys, and Ulala.
I do too. While a new modernized game with a new mission that continued the universe is my true wish. Remaking one of the gamecube games I'd be open to if its polished up and a new dev team is getting tested. I'll take anything but another retread of Starwing or Lylat Wars because they've played that card plenty with 3d remake and Zero.
If they're thinking about doing a very loose adaptation which only covers a portion of the story we experienced in the game like Sonic 3 did with Sonic Adventure 2, then maybe there is a chance. But if they're thinking about converting a 15 hour long adventure into a 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hour long viewing with the way Zelda games are structured, then I can only see failure, and mainly why I can only see an original story having a chance of working out with this Zelda film.
They're in for it now. Great soundtrack to a great remastered game. I can't speak for the original. But definitely top 5 material for not only my Zelda soundtracks but orchestrations to video games.
@MrGawain Then how do you explain the games that reuse the same Link in a following game like AoL, LA, MM, PH, ToTK. Or games that reference or recap past events that happened in prior games like WW to OoT or ALBW to AlttP or TP to OoT?
I find pieces of the timeline interesting. The Child and Adult Timelines feel like actual saga's that had pretty clear continuity. You could tell with Wind Waker and the ds games. Same with N64 games and Twilight Princess. Both timelines even have a gap for interpretation to fill that depending if you care about the characters and settings, it might be interesting to fill in about PH-ST or MM-TP. But not as a whole, the downfall and pre split have games that are out of order release wise meaning and what continuity there is being that I don't think much about the games involved.
It was obvious about where it was. But all that talk about how Nintendo's and the Zelda staff will ditch the timeline after Breath of the Wild and how it was an opportunity to start a new. All down the drain. Lets face it, the timelines apart of Zelda no matter how many games they don't answer for.
Looks great, kind of hope we see more characters like daddy and the ride involves the rapids. Glad they added DK, give him this one and await what is yet to come.
Alright, I guess the Zelda fandom could get behind a Zelda game with her as the protagonist and a new mechanic. I wonder if digital sales are included in this. Now lets see how it fares during the holidays Black Friday to Christmas.
Very nice, but could we get some soundtracks from Xenoblade and a couple of Zelda's like TP, ST, and EOW. I like they're getting WW and ST but room for improvement. Along with the Fire Emblem Switch games.
Looking good, like the interface and the 13 or so franchises that are on there, nice start but there's room for improvement, the entries from previous consoles like the gameboy advance and n64 could use some love. Also glad they're adding franchises like F Zero, so maybe Xenoblade too I hope Nintendo. I'm glad they'll be updating this overtime.
That sucks, I really had a fun time with the game. A fun alternative to Metroid Dread. Greedy riffraff at Ubisoft, firing a team because it underperformed. Heck 2 million, thats not an unusual metric for how 2d Metroidvanias do. It took Metroid 35 years to have a game that did 3 mil.
@Friendly I'll give you 2022's fall direct, but are you sure two different Mario RPG's were announced in one showcase? In fact I seem to recall the Mario RPG being an October/November game. It doesn't make sense that one would only be given a month's notice in advance.
Come to think of it, When have we ever enjoyed September directs. I mean since the launch, all the past September directs I recall have been marketing campaigns to flesh out their established line up for the final quarter of the year and a bit of Jan-March of the following year. We always come away complaining that its just stuff we already know which is the point. But they don't need directs to do that.
I've always welcomed Zelda as a playable protagonist. Its partly why I scoffed at the whole "female link" stuff during BoTW's hype. Though I suppose thats kind of coming to fruition with Zelda's sword mode. I know its for the traditionalists who aren't onboard with the echoes and or Link not being the lead. But kind of wish they gave Zelda something like a rapier with altered sword play like TP or the spin offs. I'm sure many traditionalists could adapt and compromise
I enjoyed the advanced games. Being one of the first sonic games on a Nintendo console, It felt like classic sonic with an adventure feel or vise versa.
@Ryu_Niiyama The point was people who compare this game to PPSt were doing so because of assuming simplicity and they both star princesses. Not because of actual mechanics. Yeah wardrobe changing has been apart of Zelda for a long time but Princess Peach is more recent.
@Rhaoulos But you were open to count Groose, which isn't much more of a main character than Linebeck or Tatl, the player sidekicks and Byrne the villain's henchman. And while they weren't antagonists per-say, Midna was still a lead as much if not more so than the main 3 were in her game, same with Skull Kid, both having morally grey mentalities and backstories that made them that way. But I'll agree with Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf have still been straight regarding their alignment. Though I would've raised Link in Link's Awakening. Where to get off and save Koholint Island, Link choses to wake up the wind fish which destroys it and its inhabitants. But the choice isn't really so much about Link's freedom vs the islands wellbeing as it is about liberating the Wind Fish before Koholint gets wrecked by monsters. Still, Link destroys an island with inhabitants even if none of them were real.
@Rhaoulos What about Hilda and Midna's desperation to save their kingdoms even at Hyrule's expense in A LInk Between Worlds and Twilight Princess? Or Skull Kid being used by the Majora's Mask but the mask feeding into the Skull Kids feelings of isolation and resentment. Tatl and Linebeck having their own agenda's but come through for Link later on. Byrne from helping the bad guys but reforming to help Link in Spirit Tracks.
I'm definitely for Ganondorf being playable somehow, someday in a way that feels like Ganondorf, the wielder of the triforce of power if he's fun and interesting to play. I've had that attitude about Zelda for years. As far as his status as a villain goes. Maybe they make him an anti hero like Shadow the hedgehog and Wario whom also branched off and headline their own games. Maybe thats the answer for Ganondorf who I hope isn't the main final villain in Echoes or the next 3d Zelda on account of fatigue.
I like the title Beyond. The only other property to have that had that title is Batman Beyond. Which something to note because its also cyberpunk with someone in a power suit.
I told everyone that top down Zelda wasn't dead. And it stars Zelda to boot. I know the gamecube and gameboy remakes/remasters were more anticipated but a new top down game and a sort of spin off even though its canon gives me anticipation. Save those remasters for later.
@DiggleDog I've had the same idea in mind. Only I was thinking we'd built it through out the course of the game in which the abilities are tied to the pieces of the suit for progression. Samus being vulnerable in appearance but mechanically naked as well. Not quite like how we did it in Zero Mission.
While I lean on DK getting a new 3d platformer as it worked wonders for Kirby and the forgotten land. DK has shown potential in the 3d space with DK64. Also there's the principal that for the longest time, Mario was all they had. While Sony had five 3d platforms with Crash, Spyro, Ratchet, Sly, and Jak.
I'm also for a Jungle Beat esk game thats longer with standardized controls. I kinda feel like the country format has run its course. And please not a Mario cameo. I've had it with DK sharing spotlights with Mario as DK content. Give him his own game with his own adventure with the kongs.
Well, Tears of the Kingdom could be made a curriculum could be used in college. I guess Fire Emblem could have educational value to be found. Any other Nintendo Franchises that could be included in the school system.
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Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Adds Characters From "SEGA Universes"
Really hope we get a few non sonic characters back. Going from Transformed to Team Sonic racing gave me a feeling I'd feel if Smash brothers stripped every series representation except the Mario universe and that would be the only series put in. Bring back the Nights, Shenmue, Monkey Ball, and Skies of Arcadia stuff. Even Riders had Nights, the monkeys, and Ulala.
Re: Can You Name These Zelda: Majora's Mask Masks?
@konicstar True
Re: Can You Name These Zelda: Majora's Mask Masks?
Its valentines day not halloween.
Re: Random: Takaya Imamura Wants To See Star Fox: Assault On Switch 2
I didn't realize this game released on Valentines day or that its 20 years old.
Re: Random: Takaya Imamura Wants To See Star Fox: Assault On Switch 2
I do too. While a new modernized game with a new mission that continued the universe is my true wish. Remaking one of the gamecube games I'd be open to if its polished up and a new dev team is getting tested. I'll take anything but another retread of Starwing or Lylat Wars because they've played that card plenty with 3d remake and Zero.
Re: Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds Adds Characters From "SEGA Universes"
That impresses me. I want to see what the new Mario Kart has before I decide which one to pick up first.
Re: Talking Point: Where Should 'Luigi's Mansion 4' Take Place?
An Amusement Park. Though I guess at that point. This series isn't really a Luigi's Mansion anymore since its not a mansion being investigated.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Feel About 24 Racers In Mario Kart 9?
Is it talking about 24 racers on the track or by roster?
Re: Random: Sonic 3's Movie Writers Would Love To Adapt Zelda: Wind Waker To The Big Screen
If they're thinking about doing a very loose adaptation which only covers a portion of the story we experienced in the game like Sonic 3 did with Sonic Adventure 2, then maybe there is a chance. But if they're thinking about converting a 15 hour long adventure into a 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 hour long viewing with the way Zelda games are structured, then I can only see failure, and mainly why I can only see an original story having a chance of working out with this Zelda film.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Adds Another Legendary Zelda Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
Also maybe Twilight Princess Nintendo?
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Adds Another Legendary Zelda Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
@SplatRay001 I hear you
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Adds A Huge Zelda Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
Also I didn't realize Skyward Sword had that many songs.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Adds A Huge Zelda Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
They're in for it now. Great soundtrack to a great remastered game. I can't speak for the original. But definitely top 5 material for not only my Zelda soundtracks but orchestrations to video games.
Re: Poll: It's Almost Time For The Game Awards, But Are You Expecting Much Switch News?
Do awards for Echoes and Prime 4 winning count? No guarantee of course.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Has Been Added To The Official Timeline
@MrGawain Then how do you explain the games that reuse the same Link in a following game like AoL, LA, MM, PH, ToTK. Or games that reference or recap past events that happened in prior games like WW to OoT or ALBW to AlttP or TP to OoT?
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Has Been Added To The Official Timeline
I find pieces of the timeline interesting. The Child and Adult Timelines feel like actual saga's that had pretty clear continuity. You could tell with Wind Waker and the ds games. Same with N64 games and Twilight Princess. Both timelines even have a gap for interpretation to fill that depending if you care about the characters and settings, it might be interesting to fill in about PH-ST or MM-TP. But not as a whole, the downfall and pre split have games that are out of order release wise meaning and what continuity there is being that I don't think much about the games involved.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Has Been Added To The Official Timeline
@Gamecuber I wonder how they'd get Wind Waker and A Link Between Worlds confused with Links Awakening and Skyward Sword.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Has Been Added To The Official Timeline
It was obvious about where it was. But all that talk about how Nintendo's and the Zelda staff will ditch the timeline after Breath of the Wild and how it was an opportunity to start a new. All down the drain. Lets face it, the timelines apart of Zelda no matter how many games they don't answer for.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy Library With Another Classic
We're getting every past Donkey Kong game before we get a new one.
Re: Talking Point: What Are Your Top 5 Nintendo DS Games?
Kirby Ultra Star
Mario Kart DS
Loz Spirit Tracks
Sonic Rush
Naruto rise of a ninja 2
Re: Super Nintendo World's Donkey Kong Country Park Gets Opening Date
Looks great, kind of hope we see more characters like daddy and the ride involves the rapids. Glad they added DK, give him this one and await what is yet to come.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Sales Officially Surpasses Two Million
Alright, I guess the Zelda fandom could get behind a Zelda game with her as the protagonist and a new mechanic. I wonder if digital sales are included in this. Now lets see how it fares during the holidays Black Friday to Christmas.
Re: Nintendo Reports Rapid Growth For Metroid, Xenoblade Chronicles, And More
@AstraeaV Eh, I'd like Fusion better with sprites. Prefer an indie team work remake that one. In the style of AM2R.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Will Add More Tracks Over Time, Here's What's Been Revealed So Far
Very nice, but could we get some soundtracks from Xenoblade and a couple of Zelda's like TP, ST, and EOW. I like they're getting WW and ST but room for improvement. Along with the Fire Emblem Switch games.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Is A New Mobile App Exclusive To Switch Online Members
Looking good, like the interface and the 13 or so franchises that are on there, nice start but there's room for improvement, the entries from previous consoles like the gameboy advance and n64 could use some love. Also glad they're adding franchises like F Zero, so maybe Xenoblade too I hope Nintendo. I'm glad they'll be updating this overtime.
Re: Prince Of Persia: The Lost Crown Dev Team Reportedly Disbanded By Ubisoft
That sucks, I really had a fun time with the game. A fun alternative to Metroid Dread. Greedy riffraff at Ubisoft, firing a team because it underperformed. Heck 2 million, thats not an unusual metric for how 2d Metroidvanias do. It took Metroid 35 years to have a game that did 3 mil.
Re: Talking Point: After A September No-Show, Will There Be An October Nintendo Direct?
@Friendly I'll give you 2022's fall direct, but are you sure two different Mario RPG's were announced in one showcase? In fact I seem to recall the Mario RPG being an October/November game. It doesn't make sense that one would only be given a month's notice in advance.
Re: Talking Point: After A September No-Show, Will There Be An October Nintendo Direct?
Come to think of it, When have we ever enjoyed September directs. I mean since the launch, all the past September directs I recall have been marketing campaigns to flesh out their established line up for the final quarter of the year and a bit of Jan-March of the following year. We always come away complaining that its just stuff we already know which is the point. But they don't need directs to do that.
Re: Random: Shigeru Miyamoto Apparently Isn't Credited In Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom
Because he's busy spearheading the movie.
Re: Echoes Of Wisdom Originally Starred Link, Until His Sword & Shield "Got In The Way"
I've always welcomed Zelda as a playable protagonist. Its partly why I scoffed at the whole "female link" stuff during BoTW's hype. Though I suppose thats kind of coming to fruition with Zelda's sword mode. I know its for the traditionalists who aren't onboard with the echoes and or Link not being the lead. But kind of wish they gave Zelda something like a rapier with altered sword play like TP or the spin offs. I'm sure many traditionalists could adapt and compromise
Re: Anniversary: Nintendo Is 135 Years Old Today
Well Happy Birthday, only 105 years older than me. Seeing how far you've come as a toy company to a gaming company.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Developer Seemingly Revealed
Big surprise
Re: Sonic Team Would "Love" To Remaster The Advance Series, Says Takashi Iizuka
I enjoyed the advanced games. Being one of the first sonic games on a Nintendo console, It felt like classic sonic with an adventure feel or vise versa.
Re: New Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Trailer Highlights Smoothie Making, Horse Riding, And Waypoints
@Ryu_Niiyama The point was people who compare this game to PPSt were doing so because of assuming simplicity and they both star princesses. Not because of actual mechanics. Yeah wardrobe changing has been apart of Zelda for a long time but Princess Peach is more recent.
Re: New Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Trailer Highlights Smoothie Making, Horse Riding, And Waypoints
Well I guess this game will have another thing in common with Princess Peach Showtime other staring princesses. Its the dress up mechanic
Re: Talking Point: Could Ganondorf Ever Be The Star Of A Zelda Game?
@Rhaoulos But you were open to count Groose, which isn't much more of a main character than Linebeck or Tatl, the player sidekicks and Byrne the villain's henchman.
And while they weren't antagonists per-say, Midna was still a lead as much if not more so than the main 3 were in her game, same with Skull Kid, both having morally grey mentalities and backstories that made them that way. But I'll agree with Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf have still been straight regarding their alignment.
Though I would've raised Link in Link's Awakening. Where to get off and save Koholint Island, Link choses to wake up the wind fish which destroys it and its inhabitants. But the choice isn't really so much about Link's freedom vs the islands wellbeing as it is about liberating the Wind Fish before Koholint gets wrecked by monsters. Still, Link destroys an island with inhabitants even if none of them were real.
Re: Talking Point: Could Ganondorf Ever Be The Star Of A Zelda Game?
@Rhaoulos What about Hilda and Midna's desperation to save their kingdoms even at Hyrule's expense in A LInk Between Worlds and Twilight Princess? Or Skull Kid being used by the Majora's Mask but the mask feeding into the Skull Kids feelings of isolation and resentment. Tatl and Linebeck having their own agenda's but come through for Link later on. Byrne from helping the bad guys but reforming to help Link in Spirit Tracks.
Re: Talking Point: Could Ganondorf Ever Be The Star Of A Zelda Game?
I'm definitely for Ganondorf being playable somehow, someday in a way that feels like Ganondorf, the wielder of the triforce of power if he's fun and interesting to play. I've had that attitude about Zelda for years.
As far as his status as a villain goes. Maybe they make him an anti hero like Shadow the hedgehog and Wario whom also branched off and headline their own games. Maybe thats the answer for Ganondorf who I hope isn't the main final villain in Echoes or the next 3d Zelda on account of fatigue.
Re: 'Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club' Launches On Switch Next Month
@martynstuff You got that right.
Re: 'Emio - The Smiling Man: Famicom Detective Club' Launches On Switch Next Month
@XE77 What do you mean Proper?
Re: Feature: 25 Things You Might Have Missed In The Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Reveal Trailer
I thought the new town was Kakariko Village.
Re: Reaction: A Direct That Delivered, And Shows That Switch Still Has Plenty Of Pep
@Jiggies Imagine being disappointed at getting a new title as opposed to games that are already out and could be gotten for cheap.
Re: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond Confirmed For Switch, Launching 2025
I like the title Beyond. The only other property to have that had that title is Batman Beyond. Which something to note because its also cyberpunk with someone in a power suit.
Re: New 2D Adventure 'The Legend of Zelda: Echoes of Wisdom' Announced For This September
I told everyone that top down Zelda wasn't dead. And it stars Zelda to boot. I know the gamecube and gameboy remakes/remasters were more anticipated but a new top down game and a sort of spin off even though its canon gives me anticipation. Save those remasters for later.
Re: Metroid Dread Director On Samus Losing Her Abilities: "Yes, It Has To Be Like That"
@DiggleDog I've had the same idea in mind. Only I was thinking we'd built it through out the course of the game in which the abilities are tied to the pieces of the suit for progression. Samus being vulnerable in appearance but mechanically naked as well. Not quite like how we did it in Zero Mission.
Re: Random: Metroid Dread's Chozo Language Was Based On English Syntax
I'd like to hear more of Samus speaking it, but I doubt Chozo will have much if any part in the next couple games.
Re: Rumour: Reliable Insider Says Kingdom Hearts 4 'Might' Come To Switch 2
That's a big maybe considering they put most of the side games on the handhelds and the main series on the consoles.
Re: Poll: A New Donkey Kong Game Must Be Coming, But What Should It Be?
While I lean on DK getting a new 3d platformer as it worked wonders for Kirby and the forgotten land. DK has shown potential in the 3d space with DK64. Also there's the principal that for the longest time, Mario was all they had. While Sony had five 3d platforms with Crash, Spyro, Ratchet, Sly, and Jak.
I'm also for a Jungle Beat esk game thats longer with standardized controls. I kinda feel like the country format has run its course. And please not a Mario cameo. I've had it with DK sharing spotlights with Mario as DK content. Give him his own game with his own adventure with the kongs.
Re: Sonic X Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings Animated Short Announced
@Vexx234 Right
Re: Random: New University Course Helps Students Gain A "Deeper Understanding" Of Fire Emblem
Well, Tears of the Kingdom could be made a curriculum could be used in college. I guess Fire Emblem could have educational value to be found. Any other Nintendo Franchises that could be included in the school system.