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@XCWarrior
Same; I'll be picking up Mario Maker after work tomorrow, but I'm getting it physically.

This going to be an actual console or a microconsole? Microconsoles have proven that they're not a commercially viable rival to actual consoles - just look at the Ouya, Gamestick, and Playstation TV. I've got all three of those, and while (except for the Gamestick), they have something interesting to offer, they'll never take down the home console market. I can't see this latest Apple product being any more successful in that.

@PanurgeJr
Same here except it's SMB3 for me.

I LOVED both of these on 3DS. For $4, I'll definitely download them again on Wii U to support the developers.

If something's on sale, I might use this, but otherwise, I don't see the point; I'd rather Nintendo get all of my money rather than having Amazon get a chunk.

I think co-op IS a big deal, and I think that they should have included that standard and made exclusive levels that get unlocked with the amiibo, BUT I don't think this is "evil money grubbing." Maybe not that I think of as ideal, but I think it's a fine deal, and I'm extremely excited about this.

I may have just glossed over something, so forgive me if I'm asking a question that's already been answered, but will it unlock anything exclusive to Wii U/3DS? I was pretty much sold on downloading this for Xbox One next payday because of the inclusion of Battletoads, but if there are awesome amiibo exclusive features, I'll totally jump back to Wii U for this game.

Left 4 Dead, while not geared towards horror, definitely leaves me and my friends screaming like little girls when the zombies hoard around us even with guns and ammo. It's definitely way scarier with few or no weapons, but it can be done.

It looks to me like it will be a very mediocre game technically, but I'll give it a download. Technically mediocre games can still be AMAZINGLY fun; just look at the Onechanbara and Earth Defense Force series.

It looks almost exactly the same. Same graphics, fewer gameplay features, three years late - CLEARLY THE PS4 VERSION IS SUPERIOR!!!1!!

@SheldonRandoms
No week with an Operation Rainfall eShop release can be considered a bad week.

@MrWarner14
This entire post is like a creed for my life. I hate emulators and refuse to use them for anything except fan-made hacks (Zelda Outlands and Super Mario Frustration, for example). They're dirty, they're unethical, and they just don't feel right. I don't get onto people as much if it's a game that you can't buy in a way that benefits the developers - a lot of Atari 2600 games, for example - but I still would rather dust off my 2600 and shell out the money on Amazon to have the actual cartridge any day.

This is, for me, a reason to get the Xbox One. At least if you're not a PC guy and don't like emulators (I detest them). I have over half of these games on the original consoles, but it's nice to have them in one collection (not to mention that some games REALLY benefit from the upscaling and HDMI output; Banjo-Kazooie has never looked so good).

I'm a rabidly loyal Nintendo fan, but not to the point of only having one console per generation; today is a GREAT day to own an Xbox One, and I plan to play that console exclusively for the next several days at least.

@cbkummer
Now PS4 and Xbox One gamers can taste with this what Wii U gamers tasted with Watchdogs - a super delayed and super sub-par port.

The Wii simply can't handle the versions of Call of Duty that the 360 and PS3 got, either, but I still thoroughly enjoyed the watered down ports that it did get.

Wow....this is an awful one...

I'm still going to pick it up to give it a shot (and support what few mature titles the Wii U gets), but this is extremely disappointing. The problems, though, are not Wii U hardware; there are games that look just as good and better that run flawlessly. The problem is that the developers clearly don't know how to program well for Wii U and (I suspect) didn't work hard enough with Nintendo to resolve performance issues.

My classic NES lives on as an NES. I use it to play NES games.

I'm not convinced that NX, whatever it is, will be a traditional console. I think it'll be something that releases in addition to Nintendo's home console. Even with the woefully underpowered Wii, it was still significantly stronger than the strongest console of the previous generation (the Xbox), and the Wii U is significantly stronger than the strongest console of this past generation (PS3). Nintendo may have made the questionable decision not to play the hardware arms race game, but they've always at least surpassed the strongest of the past generation; they're not going to release a 9th gen console that's weaker than the PS4. Even by Nintendo's standards, that doesn't make a lick of sense.

@Mega719
The Atari 2600

This is stupid. Call of Duty games have never been blockbusters on Wii/Wii U, but they've always sold relatively well and made a profit for Activision. What happened to their "We'll continue to do everything we can to support Wii U?"

It'll flop. ZombiU was great because it used the Gamepad well, not because it's actually a good game. It wasn't a bad game, by any means, but it's nothing memorable. It will sell "okay" at best. Not to mention that this is just a big insult to Nintendo.

@BradXCrayon
Of course they shouldn't make as many as they do of Mario, but it shouldn't be literally impossible to find one when one searches literally every store that stocks amiibos for five counties around.

I don't know if I'd call it "rude," but I do agree that it was short-sighted and needs to remedied immediately, and it's clear that part of it is Nintendo's own doing. There are Mario, Bowser, and Peach figures out the wazoo, but March and Little Mac are as rare as gold.

@bro2dragons
God, what the heck, Atari?? Why are you STILL supporting the Atari 2600 with a port of Halo??? The system is almost 40 years old!

@krakensoup
Na, like with the Wii's online connection, online play has been disabled, but you can still access the shop.

I really wish Nintendo would embrace cross-buy like Sony (or maybe it's the developers; I'm honestly not sure who would make that call, so I guess I shouldn't point fingers).

Anyone know what Witch & Hero's discounted price is?

I managed to pick up Splatoon at Gamestop Friday. I had to go online to get my amiibo 3 pack, but I was lucky enough to be able to get one from Walmart's webside. As loath as I am to give Walmart money, it's better than paying scalpers $60 on eBay.

My system is so stable that a glass of water could stay undisturbed during a 9.0 earthquake.

I'll let Trixie deliver my response.

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/280/9/f/was_there_ever_any_doubt__by_texasuberalles-d5h440n.jpg

Maaaaaan, why's it gotta be 10 pm? I have to teach tomorrow...I'm gonna have time to download it and then go to bed. Boooo.

@freaksloan
The amiibos went on sale when the game did Friday. Supply's not great, but the amiibos are on sale....

This game is fantastic. Trust me, even if you're not a big fan of shooters, you're missing out if you pass on this game. One of my friends described it as "the Mario Kart of shooters," and I think he was spot on. It's great fun.

Like most here, my initial reaction is DEAR GOD, NO, but like others have said, Nintendo never goes with the crowd; even if they did use an Android OS (which is find extremely unlikely but admit that it's possible), but would definitely do so on their own terms and in their own style.

@rjejr You're spot on with the Dreamcast Windows CE analogy; despite the Dreamcast's tragic fate, that was one of Sega's best decisions for the console since it made it so easy to port and develop games for it. Android can work for Nintendo's next console (which I'm still not convinced is what NX is), but I think they'd opt for a different OS if they were going to use a 3rd party's software (which, again, I find unlikely).

@Captain_Toad
Awesome! Thank you. I haven't been able to keep up with the details of the game as closely as I'd have liked to.

My hype for this game is overwhelming. Teaching today is going to SUCK since all I'll be able to think about is picking up Splatoon. =P

Does anyone know if Turf War is the only online game mode? I was only able to play the demo for about five minutes, so I haven't actually gotten to play around with it much.

@Neko_Rukiafan
Well, in fairness, that wasn't the most appropriate reaction and was fueled as much by work-related stress as it was by his less-than-helpful response, and I do apologize for that.

@sdelfin
Thank you, that's all I wanted to know.

_No.-Morpheel

@MitchVogel
I would buy the crap out of Pink Gold Peach controller.

@Yorumi
I asked a question. That's all. I didn't attack the publisher; I simply asked if the name is a coincidence or a tie to a parent company. If I "attacked" anyone, it was those two individuals, and if you'd like, yes, I can give a whole list of what they've actually done. I vote and buy with my conscience, and I think that David and Charles Koch are unethical in the way their political contributions affect legislation, so I don't want to use my money to support their corporation. I don't see why you're getting so upset.

@Sceptic
I think that's probably a LOT of it. It's also worth noting that Nintendo of America has traditionally been willing to take bigger risks and have more outlandish marketing ideas than Nintendo of Europe and especially the more conservative Nintendo of Japan. Granted, that dynamic has begun to shift over the years, but Nintendo is still a Japanese company, and Japanese businessmen (think their board of directors) are typically cautious and conservative about new marketing ideas.

So, this may be a stupid question, but is Koch Media owned by Koch Industries (the American buy-every-election-and-kill-democracy David and Charles Koch)? It may not seem important to a lot of people, but it will actually make a big difference on whether or not I buy any games associated with that publisher.

I'm most excited for Splatoon, but since I'm getting that physically, I voted Don't Starve since I'm actually going to download that.

@larry_koopa
I agree with you on just about everything you said for the most part; most games designed for PS4 and Xbox One shouldn't be expected to run on Wii U. My exception to that is when a game series has proven it works VERY well with the gamepad's gameplay - the Arkham series, Call of Duty, or the Warriors series, for example. I would like to see those games released for Wii U, even if they're graphically dumbed down, so to speak (think Call of Duty for Wii; watered down versions of those games weren't ideal, but they worked fine).

What DOES piss me off, however, is when a game is released on weaker hardware (PS3 and 360) or - as is the case here - has already been promised for Wii U (as has been said before, they put the Wii U's logo on the ads; that takes it from a "maybe" to a promise as far as I'm concerned).

forum user Godnimon - "And answer me, have you been overpromising with the WiiU version all this years? Because that is a fact that I´m definitley not ignoring."

Ian Bell - "Yes."

Even the head developer admits that he promised more than they're delivering. Regardless of any "maybe" they insist on, the guy in charge of the whole thing admits they promised a product they're not delivering. That's unethical business practice.

I'll repeat what I said yesterday - all of these indie developers should just say "We're releasing for PC, (in size 1 print) and maybe (back to regular font) Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, Atari Jaguar, Super Nintendo, Sega 32x, TurboGrafx-16, Sega SG-1000, 3DO, Apple Pippin, and NeoGeo Pocket Color." Clearly Slightly Mad has proven that as long as you claim you said "maybe," you can make whatever promises you want and break them whenever things get difficult.

Would it have been a stellar, blockbuster version on Wii U? Of course not. Neither were any of the Call of Duty releases on Wii, but all of those sold well enough and made a profit for Activision. The same would have been true of Project Cars. It would never have outsold the PS4, Xbox One, or PC versions, but I'd bet my left kidney they'd have made a profit.

Whelp. I know what I'm doing as soon as I get paid Friday. I've got Guacamelee on Xbox One, but if I can get it on Wii U, screw playing that version.

@Caryslan
Very well said. I still love my Saturn. =P My only addition would be to note that there is a difference between the Gamecube and Wii U (aside from just the sales number themselves); Nintendo never lost money on the Gamecube (to the best of my knowledge; please correct me if I'm mistaken). The Wii U, as much as I love it and think it's a truly brilliant system, has been Nintendo's biggest failure because they, for the first time since the -shudder- Virtual Boy, have actually lost money on it (though they've turned that around, thank goodness).

I agree, though, and I was mostly joking with my "kick to the nuts" comment because your point was spot on and absolutely valid. It just hurts, as Nintendo fans, to acknowledge, though I am proud of most of this community for being willing to acknowledge Nintendo's failures; that puts us a step above Fanboy-Tier, I think.

Honestly, though, if you look at it objectively and long-term, it's not the worst thing for Nintendo not to have the same games as the other consoles. It's FAR from ideal, but try to look at the bright side, small though it may be - no one will ever accuse the Wii U of being the same as the Playstation or Xbox. Nintendo's consoles, for better or for worse, are the only consoles in the past two generations that have truly had their own personalities rather than the "Playstation360" sameness.

@Caryslan
I think you've got it right with everything overall balancing out. Also, just for the sake of being pedantic and trying to save any shred of the Wii U's dignity I can, it's technically sold a sliver more in 2.5 years than the Saturn did in 3 years. Splitting hairs, I know, and for all intents and purposes, it is exactly on par with the Saturn, but man, pointing that out is just a kick to the balls...Factually right, but low blow....=P

@Game-Over
For most gamers, this would be true, but for some of us long-time Nintendo customers (please forgive me if you're one of those; I'm not trying to make assumptions about anyone), it goes beyond just ability to play. I have a Wii, a Wii U, a PS3, a PS4, a 360, an Xbox One, a DS, a 3DS, a PSP, a PS Vita, and an extremely powerful gaming PC, for example; I'm not want for ways to play this, but I've been a Nintendo enthusiast since I was in Pre-K, and I remember when my PS2-owning friends were green with envy of me and my Gamecube for REmake and RE0 (I was one of the eight people on the planet who didn't have a PS2 when it was current).

So tl;dr, for most gamers, yeah, if you have a way to play it, you're happy, but Nintendo gamers tend to be a different breed of gamer who love the company and its consoles and get upset when a game releases for everything but a Nintendo product. You probably knew that already, as do most readers, but I'm in a soapbox mood; forgive me. =)

This pisses me off. I mean, I can't say I'm really surprised, but between Revelations 2 (the original was originally a Nintendo exclusive), the REmake (originally a Nintendo exclusive), and now this used-to-be Nintendo exclusive? It's infuriating.

I don't have a problem with games not being multi-platform - it's the lack of multi-platform releases that gave old systems their unique personality as opposed to the Playstation360 phenomenon we've seen for the past ten years - but when it's for literally everything EXCEPT Nintendo, that pisses me off. I understand the economics of it - hell, I TEACH economics for a living - but it still pisses me off on an emotional level.

This is not surprising, but it is complete and utter molletes con queso. If you promise a Wii U port on your Kickstarter, you find a way to deliver on that promise. Otherwise why not just promise Wii U, PS4, Xbox One, N64, Colecovision, Vectrex, TurboGrafx-16, Magnavox Odyssey 2, and Mattel HyperScan and just say "Oops, sorry guys, turns out we have no idea what we're doing. We're making it for PC instead." Part of the problem is Kickstarter, I think - find a way to enforce the fulfillment of these promises or force a refund to the backers - and part of the problem is developer ethics. I understand that it's sometimes harder than you anticipated to develop for a certain console, and I get that it gets really expensive, but if you promise a release on a platform, you are ethically bound to deliver on that. I realize that I'm an unusual idealist, but we as gamers really ought to DEMAND some basic level of ethics for our medium instead of allowing ourselves to be shafted and bent over by every "our bad" developer and "give me every penny you have and then some" publisher.

I have little interest in racing sims - kart racer master race - but I was planning to pick this up on Wii U to support the console and support developers willing to put a game on the Wii U. I now have zero interest in Project Cars; I'll just stick to Forza for my occasional racing sim fix.