It's time for Nintendo Download Update goodness, North American gamers, and this week actually has quite a lot to offer. There are major 3DS retail games, a much anticipated Wii U title and an interesting range of download-only games on both systems. All told it could be - whisper it - a good week. Breath deeply and then check out the details below.
Missed the European Nintendo Download Update details earlier in the week? What an unmitigated disaster! Actually it's not, the information you need is all right here.
Wii U eShop
Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water (Nintendo / Koei Tecmo, $49.99 / $62.49CAD) - There had been fears that this wouldn't be localised out of Japan, though North American Wii U owners are left with an eShop-only release. Nevertheless this is a typically chilling entry in the series, which also utilises the GamePad's controls for the Camera Obscura. We were fans of the setting and much about this game, though it does have a few flaws - you can get the full lowdown in our Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water review. Prologue and first two chapters are available as a free download.
Slender: The Arrival (Majesco, $9.99 / $12.99CAD) - This sequel to 'that game that everyone pretended to scream about on YouTube' has arrived on a host of platforms, and this Wii U version arrives just in time for Halloween. This Wii U entry does have the unique feature of controlling the flashlight with the Wii Remote pointer, and is sure to entertain those that enjoy some old-fashioned jump scares in their gaming. We'll bring you a review soon.
Cutie Pets Pick Berries (Yazar Media Group, $4.99 / $6.69CAD) - The promotional artwork and Miiverse stamps featuring well-toned Mandeer make this look like an iffy game, but in actual fact it's a rather simplistic berry matching experience. As a result we felt it was somewhat mediocre in our Cutie Pets Pick Berries review.
Ascent of Kings (Nostatic Software, $1.99 / $2.49CAD) - This one is a platforming adventure in which a young brother sets off on an adventure to become a King; with exploration and discovery there are ability boosts to be found, too. We'll bring you our review soon.
COLOR BOMBS (RCMADIAX, $1.49) - A chain-reaction title in which players must collect a predetermined amount of the aforementioned bombs to complete a stage, with 60 levels promised. We'll splat some colours and bring you a review.
Wii U Virtual Console
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts (Capcom, $7.99) - This is the Game Boy Advance re-release of the iconic SNES game. An addition in this version is the Arrange Mode, which throws in tougher levels and bosses from other games in the franchise. We actually recommend the SNES version (also available on the Wii U Virtual Console) instead of this one, and you can find out why in our Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts GBA review.
Wii U Retail Downloads
Just Dance 2016 (Ubisoft, $49.99) - More dancing shenanigans with some extra weirdness thrown in this year; there is a song about stepping on a Chihuahua, after all. The Wii U version will include support for the subscription-based Just Dance Unlimited (one month free with the purchase), which provides access to new songs and those from the older games.
Just Dance: Disney Party 2 (Ubisoft, $39.99)
Wii U eShop Temporary Discounts
Costume Quest 2 (Midnight City, $4.99 from 26th October to 4th November, normally $14.99)
The Quiet Collection (Nostatic Software, $3.99 from 24th October to 7th November, normally $4.99)
Bombing Bastards (Sanuk Games, on discount until 29th October)
Spot the Differences: Party! (Sanuk Games, on discount until 29th October)
Funky Physics (Petite Games, $0.99 until 12th November, normally $1.99)
99Moves (EnjoyUp Games, on discount until 19th November)
99Seconds (EnjoyUp Games, on discount until 19th November)
Gunslugs 2 (Engine Software, $4.99 / $6.99CAD) - Originally developed by OrangePixel, this is an intense pixel-based action game with randomly generated levels, pumping music and a notable '80s pop culture vibe. We gave this a recommendation in our Gunslugs 2 review.
Wizdom (Moving Player, $9.99) - This title aims to blend match-three puzzling with aspects of exploration, with the fantastical plot placing you in the vital role of producing outfits to satisfy demanding clients. It sounds bonkers but could potentially be fun, so we'll check it out in a review.
3DS Retail Downloads
The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes (Nintendo, $39.99 / $49.99CAD) - This spin off utilises the graphics engine and mechanics first seen in The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, but shifts the focus to local and online co-op play. The totem mechanic with three players is absolutely vital, while single players need to work with 'doppels' that are switched around on the touch screen. We gave this a recommendation but not a glowing assessment in our The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes review. Available from 23rd October.
Dragon Ball Z: Extreme Butoden (Bandai Namco, $29.99 / $34.99CAD) - A fighting game that's enjoyed the demo treatment on 3DS, the key modes are the Story option which follows the original manga, while there's a separate Adventure mode to also take on. We gave this a recommendation in our Dragon Ball Z: Extreme Butoden review.
Adventure Time: Finn & Jake Investigations (Little Orbit, $29.99 / $34.99CAD)
Gravity Falls: Legend of the Gnome Gemulets (Ubisoft, $29.99)
3DS eShop Temporary Discounts
Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth (Atlus, on discount from 26th October to 9th November)
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (Atlus, on discount from 26th October to 9th November)
Big Hero 6 Battle in the Bay (Gamemill Entertainment, on discount from 24th October to 1st December)
Disney Frozen: Olaf's Quest (Gamemill Entertainment, on discount from 24th October to 1st December)
Demon King Box (CIRCLE Entertainment, on discount until 12th November)
Quell Memento (CIRCLE Entertainment, on discount until 12th November)
Talking Phrasebook - 7 Languages (Sanuk Games, $2.99 until 29th October, normally $4.99)
Yo-Kai Watch (Level 5, free)
Stella Glow (Sega, free)
Fairune (CIRCLE Entertainment, free)
3DS HOME Themes
Master System Theme
The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes: Brave Trio – Available from 23rd October
The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes: Totem Time – Available from 23rd October
That's everything for this week's North American update - let us know what you plan to download in the poll and comments below.
No Wild Gunman for NA??? LAAAAAAAME!!!
The future isn’t as awesome as Marty McFly saw. I wish I could hop in a Delorean and head back to 1985.
Meh. Not really interested in any of these. And I wasn't a fan of the Triforce Heroes demo.
Getting persona Q and Fatal Frame. Triforce Heroes will be retail.
I'll try the Fatal Frame demo since i discovered it offers Off-TV play, although I figure I will not make it through even that much. Never been a huge horror game fan.
I voted for Gravity Falls, I'll probably get it physical though. I found some gameplay on YouTube and it looks beautiful! I'm pretty sure that the game, even if it doesn't end up being great, will still be fun to play through, especially as a big Gravity Falls fan!
Another Thursday, another week of nothingness.
Fatal frame going digital only is a gigantic suck fest.
@Ryu_Niiyama You're going to love Persona Q. Currently playing through it now and it's really good!
I will try the Fatal Frame demo near Halloween... glad it's not called Project Zero here...
3DS Demos and the "demo" for Fatal Frame!
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts? A port of a game that's been available on the e-shope forever now? Unbelievable.
Triforce Heroes Game and Theme for me!
@Spoony_Tech I've been eyeing it for a while but that price is a no-brainier.
Do we have any confirmation yet that Dementium Remastered will be making it in time for next week's download update? I seriously cannot WAIT to play through those games again.
Fatal Frame and Slender for me. Great horror games for the Halloween season.
It's the Fatal Frame and Yokai Watch demos for me, love that they're both ghost themed
And I'll be picking up the retail version of Triforce Heroes tomorrow.
I'm gonna get Fatal Frame,but I need a external HD first
just the demos for me although Stella Glows demo is out Oct 27 not today.
All the crazy eShop news and THIS is what we get...
I don't see the Yo-Kai Watch demo at all on the eshop...
-sigh- I hate the fact that Fatal Frame is digital only but I want to show Nintendo I care enough to play the game so I'm gonna have to buy it
looks like I have to wait until noon before it's available, sigh
That game with the mandeer <3 I will get that, sounds swelltastic!
I'll be getting the Yo-Kai Watch and Stella Glow demos and I'll buy the retail version of TriForce Heroes tomorrow.
Junk again as always. I am getting more and more tempted to sell off my Wii U and 3DS. This has been by far Nintendo's worst generation for gaming.
What's with all of the GBA releases of SNES games? So stupid.
Guess we don't live in the future.
The Legend of Zelda: Tri Force Heroes and the demos for the 3ds side and Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water on the Wii U side but only the free version at the moment, not sure if I would like it yet.
@OneBagTravel if the rumor from one of the companies are true, Nintendo has decided to no longer convert SNES games to Virtual Console, so the only way to get your SNES game to the Virtual Console is if you ported it to the GBA. I think it is sort of silly, but then I also think putting home console VC games on portable systems and portable console VC on the home console is silly.
Not getting anything. I'm more likely to get some Vita games instead.
Was going to buy Fatal Frame, but it got censored here in the US. So... I will be getting nothing this week. #notacompletegame
@Ryu_Niiyama "that price is a no-brainier"
Where do you see a price for Persona Q?
...where's Wild Gunman and Hogan's Alley?
It should have been awesome news that we're getting Fatal frame but between being digital only and censorship I don't know if I even care any more.
I could go to a meme generator to use the image of Reggie Fils-Aime shrugging and write something witty about the lack of Wild Gunman or Hogan's Alley, but I just woke up, and am too lazy to do it.
Preloaded Triforce Heroes. Will download Yokai Watch and Stella Glow demo too.
How much did Persona Q discounted to? I missed the discount last time, might pick it up this time.
@MERG Looking to maybe pick it up? I doubt it's cheaper then the last sale at 30$ but who knows. I highly recommended you get it this go though. It ranks with the best Atlus has done. I'm in the 4th dungeon and it's a nice mix of Etrian with a Persona charm. You'll love these characters!
@Barbiegurl777 "more garbage.........i dislike all of the most popular series and franchises in history" Sweet, ill buy 3 of each!
@RoomB31 Yup :/ I hate being on the EST timezone when NOA operates on the PST time zone.
Fatal Frame demo today
@shinokami Right? Its a huge game of pickle. You want to support the niche series but dont wanna buy digital only. You buy it you support digita and if you don't buy it you dont support the game and Nintendo thinks it doesn't sell well. T.T
@Tasuki i know right? the 3DS only outsold its competition 11 to one. We are truly living in dark times.
Having fun playing Flappy Birds on your phone!
@Pie7 Not really, we are forced to buy difital only because they believe the game doesn't do well in America. If we prove Nintendo we do care about the game we can ask for a physical release later on, just look at games like Shovel Knight and Senran Kagura.
The big Costume Quest discount might be good timing for Halloween
@Barbiegurl777 which makes it kinda silly that you called the 5 million copy selling YOKAI, and the 60,000,000 Zelda series garbage everyone has their own opinion, so your "all opinions but mine are garbage" comment was ultra-silly today
Despite the fact that NoA has no hope for the game, Fatal Frame is the way to go for me this week. I've been wanting a good horror game. I know some people are upset over the censorship, and lack of a physical disc, but I must reiterate:
If the game does not sell on the eshop, it's over; and I'm sure we will never get another Fatal Frame in the west again. Just saying.
Ugh... It pains me knowing that there is a brand new Zelda game available that I must ignore...
Fatal Frame (trial), just in time for Halloween
@shinokami I'm hoping your right! I am still confused on how PAL regions can get a physical release when they have so many territories within it. Wouldn't it make more sense to release it physical here where there is only two main but three territories? ( Not sure how much NOA governs Mexico ) It seems like a likely plea but maybe localization happens quickly in PAL since they are used to so many beforehand?
@sonicmeerkat @Tiberius30 They censored a scene with a bikini, not a big deal and unnecessary fan service for the game in my opinion
@TerrapinJess you must! its legally required that you ignore it.
@Pie7 That's a question it has eluded a lot of people. We buy way more games than all of Europe and yet NoA usually gives us the boot. Games like Xenoblade do phenomenal here and we barely got it because NoE actually stood up. I'm sure Fatal Frame is more popular here in the US than in Europe.
Ahh come on, North America gets again a Sega theme for 3DS while Europe is still waiting for the first...
Also damn you Double Fine for not discounting Costume Quest 2 in Europe. Has it been patched and fixed by the way? I remember that people said Wii U version had some bugs?
I'm curious how Gravity Falls is. I have not seen any reviews and I'm really cautious with lincence games.
I will most likley try out Fatal Frame but at my college you have to buy rights to the WiFi for home consoles (not portables strangley but I'm guessing the WiFi sees those as phones) which I refuse to do so I'll have to wait till I get back home.
@Barbiegurl777 All of those ideas are great! You did none of them. you simply looked at a 10/10 reviewed game coming out, a 9/10 game on sale, and said "ugh its all garbage!" Everyone Is entitled to their opinion. So when you learn that, and stop spam posting "every game i don't play is garbage", the rest of us would appreciate it. Thanks!
@Barbiegurl777 I like Style Savys and I think Disney MW is fun but to call multi-million sellers like Zelda and Persona garbage? Yeah your tastes are garbage love
I recommend Persona Q, it's great!
It feels like we should still be waiting for FF!
I will get Fatal Frame and depending on price, Persona Q. I refused to pay the Atlus tax when it launched.
@MERG There isn't one but I'm expecting it to match the sales price of the rest of the Atlus games currently on sale..which is 9.99. I could be wrong of course but I doubt it. I should have clarified that in my response.
While I absolutely don't agree with Barbiegurl777's taste in games, there is always at least one person complaining about the download line up every week and the word "garbage" gets thrown around a lot. So I don't think its entirely fair to call her out on something that others do every week on this site and they don't get as much of a reaction. Just because she like different games than the mainstream doesn't mean she can't say how she feels.
@Ryu_Niiyama It was just 30$ a couple months ago. It definitely won't go that low for another year at least. The game is not even a year old I believe. At best you're looking at 25$ took forever to even get one sale on this one.
To you people there are never any good games coming out on the eshop.All you people want are virtual console games.
@Ryu_Niiyama yes, but that typically happens on weeks where we only get Bob's Bowling Adventure, a port of a mobile game.
Barbie is looking at persona, zelda, yo-kai, and going "eww garbage, everyone's opinions but mine are terrible", then posting 10 lines about how we should respect everyone's opinions. When you're calling out three of the largest selling games in human history as garbage that is beneath you, someone can take you to task. Just because she hates popular, fun games that are highly reviewed and well regarded doesn't mean she can be a whiney little *** about it.
Also, I guess I should add that I just took a giant sigh of relief that NoA decided not to release Wild Gunman and Hogan's Alley. If my fuzzy memory is still accurate I made a joke post about not buying anything until Hogan's Alley and Gyromite released on the virtual console. Imagine my surprise when one of them showed up on the European release schedule for this week.... 0_o
EDIT: And I still want a USB powered R.O.B.
@Spoony_Tech Payday is tomorrow for me so at this point I'll get it either way. Worked a few extra shifts recently.
Waiting for Konami Kraaaaaaazy Racers!
@sinalefa How much are you willing to pay? When it and all the rest came out at the inflated price I also refused and said if you're charging me 10$ more I'm waiting for 10$ less then normal retail. That's why I picked up Legend of Legacy but I have no clue when I'll play it. Want to support them but only at the 40$ price at launch. I'm still on the fence about Stella Glow but I can get that for 40$ at Best Buy. Still not happy about that either.
@shinokami Yeah they made those costumes to show off the water effects they worked on, and censored the idol costume a character wears that's supposed to make it clear she's an idol making things more confusing, but yeah big deal right ruining effect displays and corrupting context is cool.
I personally don't care for Yokai Watch and whatever, but I don't go around calling them 'garbage.' Every game has its fans, whether I want them or not.
@Barbiegurl777 Ah, so you've already finished Yo-Kai, one of the most popular selling series of all time, and are well aware of whether or not its garbage? the same with Persona Q?
@russellohh Nope, that happens every week. I think I saw somebody threaten to sell their wiiu and 3ds a few comments up. It doesn't matter what the franchise is, somebody is not going to find it their cup of tea. So instead of just scrolling past the comment you now have a back and forth going on for no reason. Yes, that includes me jumping in, which I'll admit I've done so for two reasons. A) Everyone else does the same thing up here and they do it for popular games too.
B) Not saying that you attacked her because she is female, however women do tend to have to deal with a more toxic experience within the gamer community and your comments come off (to me) as that. And that is something I hate to see.
Bonus point: Can't we all respect that we have differing tastes and be glad we have fellow gamers to fellowship with?
You guys are pretty rude, you know. You call out someone for saying x games are garbage, but you probably don't like some games yourself. Maybe her choice of wording is bad, but she's perfectly entitled to like, and dislike, various games. Why would you care about someone who doesn't have the same tastes as yours? I like lots of games lots of people hate, and I hate games that lots of people like, but I don't badger people who like the games I dislike. Why can't you guys be more civil to each other?
@Ryu_Niiyama Trust me, if i were going to call out every idiotic troll that goes "incredibly popular well-loved games are stupid, and i'm brilliant for not liking them, you SHEEPEL" it would take all year. Move along, trolls. I have work to do, and if i get one more reply of "i'm 200x too smart to like zelda, mario, mario kart, yo-kai, smash bros, persona, mass effect and all those games are garbage and i'm brilliant" i'm charging you trolls $50 a post.
Dat Gunslugs $3 tax :-/
I guess I'll get it for the 3D and physical controls but I'm not happy about it, no sir
@Freelance i couldn't care less if anyone hates mario kart or yo-kai or persona. But when i'm getting post after post of ZELDA AND YO-KAI ARE GARBAGE YOU'RE ALL DUMB YOLO it just gets annoying. You think games loved by hundreds of millions of people world wide are stupid? Great! Move on. Post on another link. Get a hobby, Get a job. I see stupid juvenile crap like that, I'll call it out.
I'll be picking up the Yo-Kai Watch demo just to see what about the franchise has won over Japan. I'm also planning on downloading the FTS chapters of Fatal Frame. I will be picking up Tri Force Heroes eventually.
Does anyone know the file size for just the free-to-start portion of Fatal Frame?
I would definitely get Costume Quest 2 (been waiting for a sale) but I got it for $6 on PSN back in August. I'd love to have it on the Wii U, but I'm not sure I want to double dip, especially when I bought (and started) the PS3 version so recently. I will be downloading the demos, including Fatal Frame, though.
That's like saying removing an illustration from a book makes it less complete. The costumes were never important, and their absence has little to no effect on the game or its content.
Just because something is popular and has sold a lot of copies doesn't make it great.
Stephen Hawking's "A History of the Universe" sold millions of copies but I can guarantee you that not a dozen people read that crap. I realize this is comparing apples to oranges but we all have different tastes.
'that game that everyone pretended to scream about on YouTube'
Funny thing, there was a time when I thought everyone screaming was faking, but then I played it and screamed like a little girl the whole time. XD
shrugs In an attempt to keep from derailing this comment thread further...
Just noticed the themes...I'll be getting all of them. Genesis is my second favorite Sega system...after Dreamcast.
So much to get.....I haven't experience this in ages, games being released on BOTH platformers?!......might faint from excitement!
@NandN3ds While I do like some games on the Eshop (I have loads of them already), I find that the Vita has a far better indie lineup. There's lots more games on there that I'm interested in, which sadly the 3DS doesn't get at all, such as Aqua Kitty, Spelunky (pretty sure it's not on 3DS but I could be wrong), Flame Over, The Organ Trail, NekoBuro CatsBlock, etc.
@russellohh Wow, you really -are- rude. I never said that beloved games are stupid. Not every single popular game interests me (like CoD), but that doesn't mean I think they're 'LOL STUPID' like you seem to think. Like I said, there are some games are that are trashed constantly by people that I love, such as Dino D-Day and SimCity but I don't rag on those people that hate them. I think you're just assuming that every single game 'loved by millions' is going to appeal to EVERYONE. That is simply not true. Having no interest in a game doesn't mean I think it's awful or bad.. I never judge games until I play them, just to let you know, so until I play it, I'll just be indifferent over it. Again, why do you even care if someone doesn't share your love for something? Just leave it.
Ya'll need to chill. On topic, I'll check out FF. Zelda looks fun for local co-op but unfortunately that's not my interest.
NintendoLife forgot to add the tag for 3DS eshop so I had to go to the main page.
Where are the other GB Castlevania games for the 3DS' Virtual Console library? Or any DS Castlevania games on Wii U? Or Kid Dracula? Or Castlevania Judgment? Or the N64 ones? Metal Gear Solid Ghost Babel? Anything? Konami? Hello? Its October, your month to shine. Wakey wakey.
Im fine with my SNES copy of SGNG. Though I am gonna go back and play some Demon's Crest too... Still very happy about that. Very, very happy.
Welp, downloading the demo portion cause you have to first, according to the eShop, estimated 50 minutes??? I take it is in fact downloading the entire game, and just unlocks the rest once you pay the price.
Couple curiosities about slender:
1) Can you use pro controller or just wiimote/nunchuck?
2) I played the original on Mac. Is the sequel really worth $10 or should I just stick with The Letter?
...but I want all the drawings in my book. (I'm an artist, had to go there. Lol)
3DS demos and Fatal Frame's demo, assuming I can somehow clear up the space for it. As much as I like Metroid Prime Trilogy, I haven't played it much lately, so I might just back up my save data and delete it, then download it later on down the road when I get an external hard drive.
I also plan on getting Triforce Heroes at some point, just not yet. Costume Quest 2 discount is also really tempting, although I haven't even played past the intro for the first...
What the heck NoA??? Where is my Wild Gunman? So other countries can celebrate a film made over here better than we even can? I really want to know who the heck makes these kind of decisions. It can not be that freaking hard to release some VC games world wide.
...No Human Resource Machine? I thought it should be out by now. T.T
@russellohh Sorry I don't play games on my phone so I will thank you for not assuming that I do just because I am not a Nintendo a** kisser like you. Also sales don't mean nothing to me if they don't have games I want to play on them. I buy a console to play games on not to be a dust collector.
What's up w/ Nintendo starting all the sales on either Saturday (24th) or Monday (26th)? If it was just 1 could understand, but there are several.
Will ask the kids about Costume Quest 2, we liked 1, and download the Yokai demo b/c everybody keeps telling me it's nothing like Pokemon but all I see is Meowth helping Ash to collect Pokemon. I usually download and play demo's but Fatal Frame was huge in size and scary is not my thing, so will probably pass, but it has nothing to do w/ lack of physical or lingerie censorship. And my youngest might pick up Big Hero 6 if it's a huge discount, like 75%, he enjoyed the movie.
Still no Zero Mission=Not a good week.
@hcfwesker It's only downloading the demo, it's 6.3GB for it. The full game is nearly 10GB.
@rjejr That's now fixed.
@NandN3ds Very true. All I'm interested in are vc and indie games. Imagine my surprise that we got a gba version of a game already available on the service. It's not the first time and I'm sure it won't be the last.
Fatal Frame, Triforce Heroes, Ghouls N Ghosts, and Slender for me this week. Eek!
Also, I'm really hoping for Castlevania 64 next week. I know it won't happen, but pls.
Now this is a pretty decent week IMO. I'm SUPER excited for Fatal Frame, I'm excited for Triforce Heroes, I'm going to download (just for the lulz) the Mandeer shenanigans, and I'm going to download Slender since it's so great on Steam. Finally, a week for which I can get excited!
Atlus games are always on sale.
@Spoony_Tech My characters are around Lv. 20 and kicking BUTT in the second dungeon! It is a VERY full game!
"If the game does not sell on the eshop, it's over; and I'm sure we will never get another Fatal Frame in the west again. Just saying."
But if it does sell well we send the message that we are ok with digital only, altered releases. Damned either way.
As a Nintendo gamer, I should be used to this by now?
A little over 6 GB for the Fatal Frame demo, so NA Wii U owners with a 8 GB system are screwed if they don't have a harddrive while 32 GB owners need to be cautious.
@Tasuki You're on a Nintendo site, reading Nintendo news, but no, you're not a Nintendo booty-kisser. Just an owner of every console they've released in the last 8 years.
Oh fanboys <3 Gotta love ya
blesses my HDD with Fatal Frame
Getting physical version of Fatal Frame V if they sell it for the price it was when i pre-ordered it from Gamestop. I've already seen some online retailers asking over 150€ for that game.
I still need to buy Yoshi's WW so I guess sadly I won't be buying anything this week. Fatal Frame is on my radar though, I'll buy it when I get a HHD.
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts? A port of a game that's been available on the e-shope forever now? Unbelievable.
Had to come some time. I'm surprised you didn't get either of the zapper games that Europe got though.
Where are the other GB Castlevania games for the 3DS' Virtual Console library?
Blame Nintendo. They are refusing all publishers from releasing any VC game on the Virtual Console, just because Nintendo themselves have decided to move on away from it.
@rjejr Costume Quest 2 just didn't capture that same feeling as the first for me. I enjoyed it but I prefer the original. I would struggle to recommend at the full price, but it certainly has $5 worth of gameplay in it.
Playing Persona Q (again) right now, just started Persona 3 FES and just finished Persona 4, so the game makes a LOT more sense now. And it's fantastic.
Interesting week. Not interested in Triforce Heroes. Will definitely get the Fatal Frame demo if I can make room for it, as well as the Yokai Watch demo.
As a reminder, SMT Devil Survivor is on sale for $10 still. Thinking about picking it up.
Just Fatal Frame for me! Hoping for some Halloween releases next week. The Castlevania DS games...please Nintendo....
@Darknyht For $5 it seems worth it to get us in the Halloween spirit. Maybe let my wife play it after dinner and my kids and I can watch. Would you happen to know if they ever released a patch?
Censorship aside (cause let's face it, we didn't lose anything game-breaking here), what would you prefer? Getting the game in a digital format, or nothing at all? We all know that digital downloads is going to be the norm soon anyway. I fail to see your point about the long term.
@Bass_X0 I was hoping we'd get the zapper games. Oh well. The SFV beta is live so it's been a decent Thursday for me.
@russellohh You just love making yourself look like an a** with the assumptions don't ya? I can keep this up all day. Yes I do own every Nintendo console but I also own most of Sega's, Sony's as well as a Neo Geo and and Xbox and Xbox 360 and a gaming PC so I am not quite sure how that makes me a Nintendo fanboy, maybe a video game fanboy sure but then again you're just throwing that around cause you I am getting to you and you just blindly call people fanboys like everyone else around here.
I've already made my choice - would have purchased day one at retail, but am not purchasing digital (unless it eventually drops under my $10 sweet spot for "games you don't really own").
So, yeah... Vote with your wallet in action, just like you asked.
@Tasuki You can keep it up all day, and you mentioned many, many consoles from 10-20 years ago. Congrats! You're old. Sega hasn't made a console since my 21 year old best friend was in 5th grade. The Xbox I bought when she was 11. Thank you so much, for being the fanboy of Nintendo- and no console anyone else has made in nearly 20 years. "I only own a Wii U , and a 360, oh and 20 years ago, i bought a neo geo, and back when Bush was on his first presidency, i totally bought an Xbox. now, my opinions of the Wii u are...."
The fanboy is even stronger with you than i assumed...
@Tasuki Neo Geo? Cartridge or Disk system? Sorry, the Neo Geo is my Holy Grail so I always get in folks business when I hear they have one.
@Freeon-Leon Yoshi will kill you with the cuteness...also the collectathon aspect is very addictive.
"I've already made my choice - would have purchased day one at retail, but am not purchasing digital (unless it eventually drops under my $10 sweet spot for "games you don't really own").
So, yeah... Vote with your wallet in action, just like you asked."
Then you have (if others follow, and I'm sure they will) sent this series to a western grave. When the west gets skipped over next time, I do not want to see you comment on how it isn't fair.
NoA is not going to read your "message" that way. Despite what you're principles are, NoA will say, "Well we gave Fatal Frame a chance, but no one bought it." I guarantee that they will not look into it any further like you are suggesting.
Look, I don't care what you do, it's your money; me talking to you obviously won't change your mind. Just realize that your "message" will be lost in translation.
Screw Tri-Force Heroes!
Had to delete Pikmin 3 and Wii Party U to make room for the Fatal Frame demo. Yeah I really need to get an HDD, but I find it hard to plop the money down for one when the system is going to be replace here sooner or later anyways. Besides, I don't get much playtime these days as it is.
But that's the problem - there is no way to send NoA a meaningful message. If I buy then it supports practices I dislike: if I don't then it will make them think it's because the genre isn't wanted. They are willfully deaf to any messages sent by sales figures, so instead of trying to communicate it makes sense to only support products that you actually want.
(Some might say that Nintendo dumb in addition to being deaf... but I think they're implying a different usage of the word.)
@rjejr I do not think so, but I haven't really played it since I completed it back when it first came out. The loading was a little long but I don't remember anything game breaking outside of it being annoying. I will try to remember to fire it up when I get home and check, but normally by the time we get them down both me and the wife more or less crash these days.
@Ryu_Niiyama It's a consoled MVS system so it's cartridges. You probably know the whole deal with MVS and AES when it comes to Neo Geo so I will spare you the history lesson . I have just started my collection so it's small now but looking forward to collecting for it.
@sonicmeerkat you can be an idol without showing skin, anything else?
@russellohh Also have current gen so why just keep using that word if it makes you happy. You call me fanboy that's fine, I will just call you what you are making yourself look like an a**. Fair enough.
@Tasuki Oh you lucky person you...I keep promising myself that one day I'll get the cartridge system and then build an arcade shell around it...it is on the bucket list. So many great games during the Neo Geo Era. I'm very happy for you that you have one, always great to hear people playing such an amazing machine first hand. I'll play some samsho tonight in your honor!
Ah yes, the overall issue with Nintendo. I agree. That is a huge problem that Nintendo never seems to deal with in appropriate ways. Look at my point though. Buying it, according to your morals, sends Nintendo a bad "message," fair enough, though I think you're looking into it a bit too much, as I only see this as NoA giving Fatal Frame a pessimistic final chance. However, not buying it, still won't solve the issues, and we'll lose Fatal Frame in the process.
I get it, I do, and I agree with you, but we need to pick our battles here. How do we send that message? Other than actually contacting Nintendo, I don't know, but if I find a better way, I'll let you know. You do the same.
Man, would have gotten Fatal Frame if it weren't for the massive censoring! Without lingerie and bikinis how in blue blazes is anyone supposed to play this game?! You wont be able to see the girl from the ghosts! This is complete B.S. and I'm sorry Nintendo but you just lost a long-time fan. It's not like I can look up pictures of fake girls in lingerie and bikinis on the internet, and having that absolutely essential part of the game taken out is the last straw!!
Dear users: A 32GB USB drive (which your Wii U has two slots for) is only $10 on Amazon. You don't need to shell out for an expensive HDD.
Oh I forgot to mention, just let them know any chance you get. Just the other day, they randomly sent me a survey and I let them have it, haha. I touched on a lot of things they need to change. Funny thing is, it didn't have much relevance to the question they asked, but I saw the blank text box, and went for it, lol. Just keep hacking away at it, if enough people annoy them, they'll have to change (we hope).
@shinokami If that's what you think is important than I'll just you're an reductive idiot and I'll leave it at that.
@sonicmeerkat Yeah that's what I thought, you have no real argument so you recur to personal insults, have a good day (or not)
Can we end this nonsensical bickering please??
really? why does canada have much higher prices?
@shinokami You've chosen to misrepresent my argument and boil it down to "showing skin" not the importance of context or the labours of coding water effects, how can I pretend you aren't as I say? Don't bother replying.
Yes - contacting them directly is the only message that matters. I prefer to use an actual letter because I think it shows them more thought/effort went in instead of just writing an email, but any direct communication is good.
I will buy the game if it ever fits my "digital requirements" - I'm just worried that it won't get marked down enough as a first-party title. And I do recommend anyone who doesn't insist on owning physical goods buy it. Fatal Frame looks fantastic.
@Ryu_Niiyama Thanks, lol. Yeah I am too lazy plus don't have the knowledge to build one so while I was at the Portland Retro Gaming Expo this past weekend I met a guy who builds the console MVS systems and bought one from him for $400. It's well crafted and he does a great job. He does have a sight if you ever want one. Also the first game I picked up was Samurai Showdown.
@sonicmeerkat Saying they made those outfits to show off the water effects is a bit of a stretch, that is purely fan service. It also wasn't even well received in Japan, as this story from last year (http://kotaku.com/gamers-wonder-when-fatal-frame-got-this-erotic-1641111438) will point out. Given that it wasn't well received in Japan, a country that has much more relaxed sentiments on the subject, do you really think it was going to leave the country in it's original state?
EDIT: Add in that Japan's Miiverse got filled with screenshots of the characters in the outfits in disturbing poses, and I think there is good reasons why it was censored elsewhere.
Haha, that's cool. I don't know of many people who actually send physical letters, but that's cool that you do. Showing you spent "time" does reflect on how much you care.
Please only download it if you really want it. In terms of a marked down price, I think it will happen. I don't know about going as low as $10, but I could easily see it going for half price at some point. Let's be real here, Fatal Frame isn't a huge seller, so I'm sure a sale will happen.
I enjoyed our debate, I think we both raised good points. This is how debates should be done, respectfully. Just look above, such vulgar words, good lord what's wrong with everyone else today??
@Tasuki link please!
I wonder how deep the discount is on Persona Q? If it ever drops below 30 I might give it a go.
@Darknyht "by the time we get them down both me and the wife more or less crash these days."
After all the late night Mets playoff games, and (celebratory post-games) I am seriously looking forward to crashing early tonight. Gotta get ready for next week.
@bezerker99 I thought the same thing. I was really looking forward to Wild Gunman and Hogan's Alley but that didn't happen. I had planned to download the demo for Fatal Frame so I guess there's that.
Bunch of random eshop games come out and everyone complains, Legend of Zelda and Fatal Frame come out and people still complain. I voted Legend of Zelda triforce heroes but I'm going to get it as a physical game after school tomorrow.
@MoonKnight7 how often do you see Nintendo games on sale? I almost never see it and this franchise is owned and payed for by Nintendo now. At least a majority share
@Anthracks But you can only use one USB drive at a time. Unless I'm doing something wrong that is.
I would say $30 or less. We will see how much they ask for it. Glad to hear the game is good, I am not sure dungeon crawlers are my cup of tea. Played the EOIV demo but it didnt really hooked me.
@Ryu_Niiyama Here you go this is the guy's site. Online it's 499 but at the convention it was 400 part of a convention special. Still for that price you can't go wrong
Yeah I get that, but we're talking about Fatal Frame here, it's not going to have huge sales numbers like a typical Nintendo game. I cannot say when a sale would happen, but I do believe it will at some point. I've seen sales happen on Nintendo games a handful of times, however they're short lived and not often.
@rjejr I guess I was fortunate in that my team was knocked out by the silly sudden-death wild-card format. It's baseball, would it really be that hard for a three game series?
That said, I checked Miiverse and recent posts in the Costume Quest 2 section imply that they never actually bothered to release the off-tv patch. It's been so long that I actually forgot about that feature missing.
I'll probably grab Persona Q if the price drops to $20. Otherwise, I'll just download Fatal Frame.
Great week to be a Nintendo fan! Fatal Frame, Slender, Tri Force Heroes (retail), Yokai demo, and Tri Force Heroes themes. **Throws money at screen**
Where is my zero missions? I'm really sad my Wii U hasn't been used in a long time. Even my wife noticed I haven't played it in months. I wanted fatal frame but will hold out for a sale. Full price digital is not OK in my books, at least if it's physical I can resell. Even at a loss it's better than losing out on the whole price of the game.
Next year is looking better with xenoblade, smt X fe, poken, star fox, fire emblem fates and metroid federation force. I've just had an itch for metroid lately, even picked up axiom verge on PS4 to help lol.
@Acarie Xenoblade is releasing this year...
I Know it does but December with a wife and 3 kids with one having a birthday also. It doesn't leave me much time for anything else so I won't get to play it until after Christmas at the earliest 😞
I'm also surprised Zero Mission isn't on the eshop yet. It's my favorite Metroid game of all time and even though I own it physically I'd love to repurchase it on my Wii U.
@sinalefa The last sale is where I got it for 30$ so you're good unless it's even cheaper. If you need any help don't hesitate to ask.
People act like there is a drought in gaming but here I go spending like $100 on Nintendo this week again.
I'm surprised it took so long for PQ's price to dunk at all. I guess that's the power of the Persona branding, huh? It's probably their most recognizable property in the West.
Where is Back to the Future Wii release in Wii U?
@Tasuki yes it is getting boring with the 3DS and Wii U.hope gen 8b or 9 is good.It is getting hard to tell what gen. they are in.I also thinking of getting my classic game system more games.
Nintendo is extremely LAME for limiting the number of times you can play demos. The Legend of Legacy: 30. Yokai Watch: 15. Really?? Nintendo's thinking: "Run out of demo uses => Coercion to purchase full game." Wouldn't be surprised.
Canadian Prices? Whats this? Wwesome.
@Bananaman678 Both games you mentioned got average reviews. No matter how much I love a franchise like resident evil, I'm no going to purchace a game like re6 and call it a fantastic week.
@Tiberius30 no it didn't where the heck did u read that?
Aw, eShop, how did you know I wanted a Fairune demo? downloads
And a Yo-kai Watch demo? You shouldn't have! Well okay, you definitely should have and I'm not so sure it's my thing but...maybe downloads
I thought about getting Triforce Heroes to play with my BFF and my fiancee, but then BFF got Butoden so he's gone down a hole. Someday maybe!
@Superryanworld that is a fair point. I suppose that I am just getting to my wits end with all the negative comments in the community now. To each their own and not everyone likes all games.
@Donutman I know right? I'm like please let me have these sucky weeks because I'm going broke...
@Nico07 I know that Wild Gunman was released in EU region but didn't think Hogan's Alley was. Regardless, oldschool NES gamers like you and I would love to have the option to download them! Here's to hoping that Nintendo of America wakes up quickly from their slumber. They have been asleep at the wheel for far too long as far as VC releases go.
One of the old rules here at NL is to not take/make things personal. You have stated your opinion and are now just beating a dead horse. Name calling, making insulting statements about posters and other passive/aggressive behaviour is frowned upon.
I can't believe we'd get the GBA Ghouls and Ghosts as the Virtual Console game, huge disappointment.
A lot of retail stuff but not much by way of indies. I'll hold off this week.
You really suck NOA!! First you butcher fatal frame then you post gba Ghouls when we have the snes version?!?!? Unbelievable stupidity!! Oh well back to my ps4 and xone! Jeez wouldn't have killed you guys to throw Hogans alley and wild gunman in there!! But nooooo!! We can't release more than 1 vc a week heaven forbid!! That's too difficult!!!!
@Bananaman678 Well said.
@DarkEdi sadly not coming to Wii u! Woulda been a good fit for Wii u fans too!
Not sure why, but I never get these updates until the next day. All the Halloween icon stuff is there, but all the stuff is from last week.
I was kind of hoping for Wild Gunman myself because of Back to The Future. Oh well, we can always hope.
I'll use Costume Quest 2 to get in the Halloween spirit. I'm not spending 50 on Fatal Frame without a box and cut content.
Can't find the Stella glow demo
Having a tough time shelling out $50 bucks for FF and it being digital. Minus 10 bucks for unnecessary censorship and we got a deal
Why is Stella Glow listed as Sega??
@Sherlock Me neither and a couple other things.
If Fatal Frame ever gets a sale down to about 24.99 I might buy it. When are they ever going to pass on their savings distributing digital to consumers. If they run the NX this way it's going to a horrible flop and a rich mans system that really won't last long.
I'm not interested in that Zelda. I dont think I'll be picking up fatal frame either. I got Legend of the Legacy last week and I'm mildly disappointed, but I'm still playing it. I'm in a drought. There isnt any 3ds vc. My prospect is with Xenoblade WiiU and that's it for the rest of the year.
@Darknyht I'm not a big fan of the 1 game playoff either. I've always hated "wildcard weekend" in football b/c all the best teams are missing, but imagine if in the NFL your starting QB was only allowed to play every other game.
I guess it worked out for the Cubs, they made the playoffs, Pittsburgh probably hates it though. They should make them play 3 games in 1 day, like bowling.
Thanks for the CQ2 info, not surprising. People will be waiting forever for the 3rd Hobbit movie in the Lego Hobbit game. And we bought Toki Tori 2+ on the promise of a level editor that never came. At least it showed up, unlike Project Cars. People run their mouths.
I admit to often using the word garbage to describe NIntendo's weekly eShop offerings. And this week is no except.
Straight up garbage!! :
@russellohh first of all, yes yes, I'm aware your last post was yesterday and you probably are calm now. But still, please refrain from getting aggressive with your posts in the future.
Really, it looks like you had a bad day and decided to release all your stress here.
@Mr-X9000 It's because $1.00 USD is currently equivalent to approximately $1.32 CAD.
@bonbonsalad ok, but how does that equal them rasisng the price by as much as 5 dollars!? im no economist, so explain plz
I'm not seeing costume quest 2 on sale, it shows up full price both on the system and on the web site for me.
I downloaded the Fatal Frame demo and the Yo-Kai Watch demo. I searched a ridiculous amount of time for the Stella Glow demo, but it was nowhere to be found. Really wanted to try that game too.
@Mr-X9000 Basically, Canadian dollars are only worth 76 US cents, and therefore less valuable, so games cost more Canadian dollars than US dollars. While the Canadian units of price are larger, the value of the money is more or less the same.
@zerotheclown: according to the article, the sale only begins Oct 26th. We have a couple more days to wait. I had the same reaction initially, and had to take a second look at the sale details. In the meantime maybe you can get into the Halloween mood by playing the Fatal Frame demo.
@cwong15 oh, haha. now i'm just embarrassed. thanks for clarifying for my obviously blind eyes lol. i'll buy it on the 26th!
You demonstrate your ignorance by referring to series' such as Zelda and Animal Crossing as RPGs (as defined in the traditional sense), while in fact they are not. Not even close. The term "RPG" is very flawed, but it's a certain style of game that has a widely accepted format, so I continue to use it for sake of clarity. Then you have sub-genres like fire emblem, a Strategy-RPG. Everyone has genres they don't like (I'm not a fan of sports games, modern FPS design, or shock most RPGs) but I don't label them garbage, nor do I condemn the people who make them. They're doing what they enjoy to pay the bills and survive, nothing dishonourable about that.
And certainly on the Wii U front, games like Fatal Frame are NOT garbage. It specifically harkens back to a style of game design, and the subject of traditional horror, that has almost been abandoned, outside of some indie studios, so the big companies can continue their yearly rehashes.
If you're going to post these kinds of abrasive comments, and not even try to begin to understand the other person's point of view, then you're going to get jumped on every time you post.
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