I really don't mind Friend Codes. It's obnoxious to type in, but at least I don't have to worry about finding which variation of the same username is my friend's like I often have to on Steam.
I know the $10 price tag on Welcome Tour is controversial, but I'm personally looking forward to it. I definitely think it should have been preinstalled on every system, but $10 isn't a huge amount, and it looks like a really neat even if not groundbreaking experience.
What I expect is Switch 2 to launch at $500 or maybe even $550 instead of $450 and then see a price drop when the president comes to his senses and realizes that these tariffs are a horribly ill-advised idea.
I was expecting $10 or $15, but it's nice to see the lower end of my expectations confirmed. I'm still expecting $15 for the ones that add new content, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're $20. And I'd be okay with that; if they add enough content on top of the performance boost, it could easily be worth $20.
Looks like there's a little more antialiasing or post processing in the Switch 2 version vs PS4, but otherwise, they look pretty identical. Although the PS5 version of this game doesn't exactly wow me visually compared to PS4.
Native 1080p will always look better than the original upscaled, and they made some major QoL improvements with WWHD especially with the Triforce hunt at the end. This is definitely the version we need.
Okay, so this isn't ideal, and I'm definitely not happy about it, but it's not a scam or false advertising or anything ridiculous like that as I've seen people say online. Nintendo never said "The Switch 2 version will come with a Switch 2 cartridge that contains the full Switch 2 version of the game." If you inferred that, that's on you. Beyond that, though, it's hardly the worst thing we've seen. The Resident Evil 4/5/6 collection on Switch only gave you one game actually on the cartridge; 67% of your physical purchase was a download. Let's not pretend this is some unprecedented affront to our sensibilities.
The pricing is definitely not ideal. The current global economy isn't ideal, though. At the end of the day, things cost what they cost, and Nintendo is not your friend; they exist to make a profit, bottom line. Our hobby is a luxury, and unfortunately, economic realities are going to force gamers to make unhappy choices.
@Ryu_Niiyama Same dude, I'm stoked. I remember seeing Resistance: Fall of Man on my friend's PS3 the day it came out and thinking "Holy crap, this looks incredible," and it looked like it was just PS2 game rendered in 720p instead of 480i. Fast forward to The Last of Us, and it didn't even look like the same system. With how good Switch 2 games seem to look now, imagine what the 2030s will bring.
@Ryu_Niiyama Same. I've got a PS5 and a Series X, but the Switch was always my favorite just for what they managed to do with a handheld. I'm stoked to see what Switch 2 is capable of for a $450 handheld.
I played Cyberpunk on Xbox One at launch and on Series X when that version was released. I was horrifically disappointed with the former and utterly blissful with the latter. Regardless of how high or low the resolution is or how high or low the frame rate is, the fact that we're getting this port on Switch 2 at all is amazing in my book. I'll definitely be double dipping on this one.
I'd rather have a port of Wii U's Wind Waker HD than an emulation of the original game, but it's a heck of a lot better than no Wind Waker on Switch 2 at all.
@Spider-Kev It was supposed to, but that's not how the world economy works anymore. Protective tariffs went the way of the dodo decades ago for good reason; globalization makes products cheaper when countries specialize. Autarky is horrifically inefficient, and economies seek efficiency.
@Medic_alert I wish it were a little more novel, too, but improving a proven success is the smart move here. I do, however, hate the name. Even Super Switch would have been better. That said, given the absolute debacle that the "Wii U" name caused (other reasons for the system's failure aside), I understand wanting to make it ABSOLUTELY UNMISTAKEABLE that this is a successor system, not just a different model of the same system or some similarly absurd misunderstanding.
I'm stoked. 4K is an amazing option and one that I honestly didn't expect - I expected native 1080p for all games, maybe 1440p - but the solid 60 fps and occasional 120 fps is really what has my hyped. Generations since 2006 aren't like generations in the 90s. The improvements are always relatively incremental and usually not truly evident until a year or two into the system's lifespan when developers have had a chance to really learn the new system's architecture and capabilities.
For a Switch game that's been enhanced for Switch 2, this looks fantastic. I can't wait to see what Nintendo's games made specifically for Switch 2 are going to look like because they always look better than remasters or upgraded ports.
As I probably won't use the camera often anyway, I'd happily take a modest resolution drop for this. For comparable resolution, I'd happily pay 20 quid above the price of Nintendo's camera. This is just cool.
Gamers need to learn the basic economic principle of inflation; $60 in 2017 = $80 in 2025. $70 games are actually cheaper than the Switch's $60 launch games, and $80 games actually cost the same (wealth, not dollars). The games aren't more expensive; the dollar is less valuable. That's not Nintendo's fault, and it's not their responsibility to eat the loss. And that's just pure inflation over the past eight years. That doesn't even begin to address the hit to profit margins that tariffs the United States's new tariffs will bring if companies don't raise prices. You don't have to like the prices - I certainly don't - but you can't logically claim that they're just being greedy or unreasonable. They're making a completely logical business decision that is backed by math and rationality.
That's what I expected and a completely reasonable price. Would I prefer a free upgrade like Series X provides? Absolutely. But this is reasonable and right on par with Sony's PS4 to PS5 upgrade costs.
I'm not a fan of the big banner at the top of the Switch 2 cases, but at least they're different instead of the Xbox Series X cases being literally identical to Xbox One cases except for saying "Series X" instead of "Xbox One."
I don't understand how people on here are so up in arms about this. I simply do not understand. This is super cheap, and regarding game prices, people should learn the basic economic principle of inflation; $60 in 2017 = $80 in 2025. $70 games are actually cheaper than the Switch's $60 launch games, and $80 games actually cost the same (wealth, not dollars). The games aren't more expensive; the dollar is less valuable. That's not Nintendo's fault, and it's not their responsibility to eat the loss.
@Flynnsworth I expected a higher price. Most of the world - especially the West - has faced relatively drastic inflation since the Switch launched eight years ago. They also try to keep relatively parity in console prices across regions, and our president here in America is implementing numerous tariffs which will either drive up the cost of the console or drive down the profit margin (which is usually negative at launch anyway) of the console here which may translate into a higher-than-otherwise price across the pond.
To be clear, I'm not saying that I'm excited about the price. I'm just not surprised given the technical and economic circumstances of the day.
Definitely not outstanding. While Nintendo's website had some of these details, the direct made no mention of MSRP for the console, no mention of MSRP for the games that are launching in two months, no mention of MSRP for the pro controller or camera, no mention of when preorders will open, no mention of how much those digital upgrade packs will cost. The presentation itself was quite exciting in my opinion, but there were a lot of frankly very critical details that weren't mentioned at all.
This sucks, but if the alternative is digital-only, then it's better than nothing in my opinion. At least there's SOMETHING to put on my shelf as a collectable even if it's just an empty shell. Still, though, that's scummy af and defeats the purpose of physical media.
They should release each game separately for $30 or $40. That's a price point gamers would swallow - especially those who are only interested in some of the games - and would almost certainly make them more money than a complete collection at $70.
@PikminMarioKirby I imagine these "Switch 2 editions" would be either a free upgrade like Xbox does or a $10 upgrade like Playstation does rather than a full blown $70 re-release.
I understand his reasoning as it wasn't the original version, but I strongly disagree with him. I haven't played the HD remaster yet, but between PS2 and Wii, I found Wii to be a much more natural feeling experience.
Jesus Christ, they already ruined the look by replacing the proper character with a stupid angry looking brown bird, and now they've delayed it more than a Zelda game. wtf guys
@nukatha It's definitely not just a pair of LCD games. That's a tiny fraction of the gameplay. The vast majority is a third person mission based action game with a ton of characters and story scenes building on the series's already rich world.
What's the issue with just accepting that Birdo is genderqueer? Is there a reason that we have to squeeze every character into a binary gender structure? Why are we so concerned with Birdo's sex and reproductive equipment?
I think Nintendo's policy is fair, but I also understand the reasoning behind the law, and if the law prohibits that kind of warranty clause, then the warranty has to change. A company can't be allowed to pick and choose what laws it follows.
I absolutely adore my Wii U, and I'm glad to see this dev still giving the system the respect it deserves. I'll definitely boot mine back up to check out this update!
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Re: There's A New Way To Add Friends On Nintendo Switch 2
I really don't mind Friend Codes. It's obnoxious to type in, but at least I don't have to worry about finding which variation of the same username is my friend's like I often have to on Steam.
Re: Feature: "We Really Want To Future-Proof" - The Nintendo Switch 2 Interview
I know the $10 price tag on Welcome Tour is controversial, but I'm personally looking forward to it. I definitely think it should have been preinstalled on every system, but $10 isn't a huge amount, and it looks like a really neat even if not groundbreaking experience.
Re: Nintendo Of America President Says Tariffs "Not Factored" Into Switch 2 Price
What I expect is Switch 2 to launch at $500 or maybe even $550 instead of $450 and then see a price drop when the president comes to his senses and realizes that these tariffs are a horribly ill-advised idea.
Re: Nintendo Confirms US Price For 'Switch 2 Welcome Tour'
It's a little higher than I wanted, but I can swallow that.
Re: Upgrade Pack Price For Zelda: BOTW And TOTK Has Been Confirmed
I was expecting $10 or $15, but it's nice to see the lower end of my expectations confirmed. I'm still expecting $15 for the ones that add new content, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're $20. And I'd be okay with that; if they add enough content on top of the performance boost, it could easily be worth $20.
Re: Video: Street Fighter 6 Side-By-Side Comparison (Switch 2 & PlayStation 5)
Looks like there's a little more antialiasing or post processing in the Switch 2 version vs PS4, but otherwise, they look pretty identical. Although the PS5 version of this game doesn't exactly wow me visually compared to PS4.
Re: Talking Point: Zelda: Wind Waker Is On Switch 2 - Do You Still Want A WW:HD Port?
Native 1080p will always look better than the original upscaled, and they made some major QoL improvements with WWHD especially with the Triforce hunt at the end. This is definitely the version we need.
Re: 'Switch 2 Editions' Are Supposedly A Switch Game Card And Download Code For The Upgrade Pack
Okay, so this isn't ideal, and I'm definitely not happy about it, but it's not a scam or false advertising or anything ridiculous like that as I've seen people say online. Nintendo never said "The Switch 2 version will come with a Switch 2 cartridge that contains the full Switch 2 version of the game." If you inferred that, that's on you. Beyond that, though, it's hardly the worst thing we've seen. The Resident Evil 4/5/6 collection on Switch only gave you one game actually on the cartridge; 67% of your physical purchase was a download. Let's not pretend this is some unprecedented affront to our sensibilities.
Re: Opinion: A Few Too Many Questions & Unwelcome Surprises Are Taking The Shine Off The Switch 2 Reveal
The pricing is definitely not ideal. The current global economy isn't ideal, though. At the end of the day, things cost what they cost, and Nintendo is not your friend; they exist to make a profit, bottom line. Our hobby is a luxury, and unfortunately, economic realities are going to force gamers to make unhappy choices.
Re: Street Fighter 6 amiibo Revealed - Price, Exclusive Rewards And amiibo Cards
That's pricey for an amiibo, but inflation and tariffs made that inevitable.
Re: Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"
@Ryu_Niiyama Same dude, I'm stoked. I remember seeing Resistance: Fall of Man on my friend's PS3 the day it came out and thinking "Holy crap, this looks incredible," and it looked like it was just PS2 game rendered in 720p instead of 480i. Fast forward to The Last of Us, and it didn't even look like the same system. With how good Switch 2 games seem to look now, imagine what the 2030s will bring.
Re: Nvidia: Switch 2 Has "10x The Graphics Performance Of The Nintendo Switch"
@Ryu_Niiyama Same. I've got a PS5 and a Series X, but the Switch was always my favorite just for what they managed to do with a handheld. I'm stoked to see what Switch 2 is capable of for a $450 handheld.
Re: Hands On: Metroid Prime 4: Beyond On Switch 2 Is Staggering
@Gamer83 Then buy it on Switch 1 for $60 (maybe $70)
Re: Hands On: Cyberpunk 2077 Might Pull A 'Witcher 3' On Switch 2
I played Cyberpunk on Xbox One at launch and on Series X when that version was released. I was horrifically disappointed with the former and utterly blissful with the latter. Regardless of how high or low the resolution is or how high or low the frame rate is, the fact that we're getting this port on Switch 2 at all is amazing in my book. I'll definitely be double dipping on this one.
Re: GameCube Games Confirmed For Nintendo Switch Online On Switch 2
I'd rather have a port of Wii U's Wind Waker HD than an emulation of the original game, but it's a heck of a lot better than no Wind Waker on Switch 2 at all.
Re: "Don't Let Nintendo Ruin The Entire Industry" - Is $80 For Mario Kart World A Bridge Too Far?
@Spider-Kev It was supposed to, but that's not how the world economy works anymore. Protective tariffs went the way of the dodo decades ago for good reason; globalization makes products cheaper when countries specialize. Autarky is horrifically inefficient, and economies seek efficiency.
Re: Donkey Kong Country Artist Shares His Thoughts On Kong's New Design
I think he looks great.
Re: First Impressions: Nintendo Switch 2 'Wows' Most When You Go Back To Your Old Switch
@Medic_alert I wish it were a little more novel, too, but improving a proven success is the smart move here. I do, however, hate the name. Even Super Switch would have been better. That said, given the absolute debacle that the "Wii U" name caused (other reasons for the system's failure aside), I understand wanting to make it ABSOLUTELY UNMISTAKEABLE that this is a successor system, not just a different model of the same system or some similarly absurd misunderstanding.
Re: First Impressions: Nintendo Switch 2 'Wows' Most When You Go Back To Your Old Switch
I'm stoked. 4K is an amazing option and one that I honestly didn't expect - I expected native 1080p for all games, maybe 1440p - but the solid 60 fps and occasional 120 fps is really what has my hyped. Generations since 2006 aren't like generations in the 90s. The improvements are always relatively incremental and usually not truly evident until a year or two into the system's lifespan when developers have had a chance to really learn the new system's architecture and capabilities.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2: All Confirmed Games & Release Dates
I'm finna drop like $800 on games alone on launch day T.T
Re: Video: Metroid Prime 4 Side-By-Side Early Graphics Comparison (Switch 2 & Switch)
For a Switch game that's been enhanced for Switch 2, this looks fantastic. I can't wait to see what Nintendo's games made specifically for Switch 2 are going to look like because they always look better than remasters or upgraded ports.
Re: Not Sold On Switch 2 Camera? HORI's Piranha Plant Model Might Change Your Mind
@Jawz32U No one is holding a gun to your head and making you buy it. If you're worried about privacy, just...don't buy the camera?
Re: Not Sold On Switch 2 Camera? HORI's Piranha Plant Model Might Change Your Mind
As I probably won't use the camera often anyway, I'd happily take a modest resolution drop for this. For comparable resolution, I'd happily pay 20 quid above the price of Nintendo's camera. This is just cool.
Re: "Don't Let Nintendo Ruin The Entire Industry" - Is $80 For Mario Kart World A Bridge Too Far?
Gamers need to learn the basic economic principle of inflation; $60 in 2017 = $80 in 2025. $70 games are actually cheaper than the Switch's $60 launch games, and $80 games actually cost the same (wealth, not dollars). The games aren't more expensive; the dollar is less valuable. That's not Nintendo's fault, and it's not their responsibility to eat the loss. And that's just pure inflation over the past eight years. That doesn't even begin to address the hit to profit margins that tariffs the United States's new tariffs will bring if companies don't raise prices. You don't have to like the prices - I certainly don't - but you can't logically claim that they're just being greedy or unreasonable. They're making a completely logical business decision that is backed by math and rationality.
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Edition Game Upgrade Pack Prices Seemingly Revealed (Japan)
That's what I expected and a completely reasonable price. Would I prefer a free upgrade like Series X provides? Absolutely. But this is reasonable and right on par with Sony's PS4 to PS5 upgrade costs.
Re: Yep, Metroid Prime 4's Box Art For Switch 2 Is... Corrupted
I'm not a fan of the big banner at the top of the Switch 2 cases, but at least they're different instead of the Xbox Series X cases being literally identical to Xbox One cases except for saying "Series X" instead of "Xbox One."
Re: Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour Price Has Been Confirmed
I don't understand how people on here are so up in arms about this. I simply do not understand. This is super cheap, and regarding game prices, people should learn the basic economic principle of inflation; $60 in 2017 = $80 in 2025. $70 games are actually cheaper than the Switch's $60 launch games, and $80 games actually cost the same (wealth, not dollars). The games aren't more expensive; the dollar is less valuable. That's not Nintendo's fault, and it's not their responsibility to eat the loss.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
@Flynnsworth I expected a higher price. Most of the world - especially the West - has faced relatively drastic inflation since the Switch launched eight years ago. They also try to keep relatively parity in console prices across regions, and our president here in America is implementing numerous tariffs which will either drive up the cost of the console or drive down the profit margin (which is usually negative at launch anyway) of the console here which may translate into a higher-than-otherwise price across the pond.
To be clear, I'm not saying that I'm excited about the price. I'm just not surprised given the technical and economic circumstances of the day.
Re: Poll: So, How Would You Rate The Nintendo Switch 2 Direct?
Definitely not outstanding. While Nintendo's website had some of these details, the direct made no mention of MSRP for the console, no mention of MSRP for the games that are launching in two months, no mention of MSRP for the pro controller or camera, no mention of when preorders will open, no mention of how much those digital upgrade packs will cost. The presentation itself was quite exciting in my opinion, but there were a lot of frankly very critical details that weren't mentioned at all.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Is Getting A Free Performance Upgrade On Switch 2
@gabrigoes On the one hand, I know you're right. On the other hand, I'm a PokeManiac and impatient as heck lmao
Re: Halo: Master Chief Collection For Switch 2 May Not Launch In Its 'Complete' Form
@Orpheus79V I'm hoping, but I never count on anything physical at all from Microsoft.
Re: Pokémon Scarlet And Violet Is Getting A Free Performance Upgrade On Switch 2
I take this to mean that Gen X is still a ways off.
Re: Nintendo's Switch 2 'Game-Key Cards' Somehow Manage To Make Codes-In-A-Box Worse
I wonder if it will require the game card to be in the Switch to play it?
Re: Nintendo's Switch 2 'Game-Key Cards' Somehow Manage To Make Codes-In-A-Box Worse
This sucks, but if the alternative is digital-only, then it's better than nothing in my opinion. At least there's SOMETHING to put on my shelf as a collectable even if it's just an empty shell. Still, though, that's scummy af and defeats the purpose of physical media.
Re: Halo: Master Chief Collection For Switch 2 May Not Launch In Its 'Complete' Form
@Orpheus79V I can't put a Steam download in a Switch case to add to my Switch shelf.
Re: Halo: Master Chief Collection For Switch 2 May Not Launch In Its 'Complete' Form
They should release each game separately for $30 or $40. That's a price point gamers would swallow - especially those who are only interested in some of the games - and would almost certainly make them more money than a complete collection at $70.
Re: Introducing PLAYi - A Whole New Way To Not Play
Y'all had me in the first half
Re: Talking Point: Which Switch Game Needs A 'Nintendo Switch 2 Edition' The Most?
@Audiogore0733 I wanted to say Wolfenstein II in the poll if it hadn't been restricted to Nintendo-published games.
Re: Talking Point: Which Switch Game Needs A 'Nintendo Switch 2 Edition' The Most?
@PikminMarioKirby I imagine these "Switch 2 editions" would be either a free upgrade like Xbox does or a $10 upgrade like Playstation does rather than a full blown $70 re-release.
Re: Cult N64 Platformer 'Glover' Finally Gets Switch Release Date
lol I've had it for three weeks #LRG
Re: Random: Hideki Kamiya Would Rather You Not Play Okami On The Wii
I understand his reasoning as it wasn't the original version, but I strongly disagree with him. I haven't played the HD remaster yet, but between PS2 and Wii, I found Wii to be a much more natural feeling experience.
Re: Atooi's Switch Game 'Hatch Tales' Has Been Delayed (Again)
Jesus Christ, they already ruined the look by replacing the proper character with a stupid angry looking brown bird, and now they've delayed it more than a Zelda game. wtf guys
Re: Yet Another 'Silver Falls' Remaster Lands On Switch Today
@nukatha It's definitely not just a pair of LCD games. That's a tiny fraction of the gameplay. The vast majority is a third person mission based action game with a ton of characters and story scenes building on the series's already rich world.
Re: Survival Series 'Silver Falls' Lands One Final 3DS Release This Month Before eShop Closure
@Vyacheslav333 Blame Nintendo; Nintendo of Japan and Nintendo of Europe are less dedicated to the fans and customers than Nintendo of America is.
Re: Survival Series 'Silver Falls' Lands One Final 3DS Release This Month Before eShop Closure
@JDulay Thanks for being the coolest dude around, Jerrel! Your games are a treasure.
Re: Survival Series 'Silver Falls' Lands One Final 3DS Release This Month Before eShop Closure
@Handheld_TrifectAce make sure you play Ghoul Busters; it's horror in context, but it's an amazing platformer experience through and through
Re: Survival Series 'Silver Falls' Lands One Final 3DS Release This Month Before eShop Closure
@Zisssou No, it's genuinely good
Re: Random: Super Mario Party Shows That Nintendo Still Can't Decide Birdo's Gender
What's the issue with just accepting that Birdo is genderqueer? Is there a reason that we have to squeeze every character into a binary gender structure? Why are we so concerned with Birdo's sex and reproductive equipment?
Re: Nintendo May Be Facing Heat From The FTC Over Its Warranty Policy
I think Nintendo's policy is fair, but I also understand the reasoning behind the law, and if the law prohibits that kind of warranty clause, then the warranty has to change. A company can't be allowed to pick and choose what laws it follows.
Re: Freedom Planet On The Wii U Just Got A Sizable Update
I absolutely adore my Wii U, and I'm glad to see this dev still giving the system the respect it deserves. I'll definitely boot mine back up to check out this update!