Well, it's over. Though the last pieces of content for Super Smash Bros. on Wii U and 3DS are due in February 2016, the full batch of DLC and the final roster has been announced. That's it, finito, done.
That sense of finality, which is probably also Masahiro Sakurai's way of saying "don't bug me about it any more", is slightly strange for this generation of the brawling series; over the past year it went big with numerous updates and content additions, to the degree that it may have seemed neverending.
So, what was revealed, and where can you watch it all again? Well, let's quickly give you some useful links:
- Bayonetta Confirmed as Final Challenger
- Corrin, From Fire Emblem Fates, to Join the Roster
- Cloud and a Chocobo Mii Hat Are Available Now
- Three More amiibo Dated, All Three Final DLC Characters in Development
- Final Mii Fighter Costume Sets Announced, With Tails and Knuckles Starring
- Gawk at the Latest Artwork and Screens
- Catch Up With All the Videos and Trailers
So there you have it, quite a few announcements, with Sakurai-san also painstakingly going through character movesets during the broadcast.
We'll be sharing some thoughts on this generation of Smash Bros. and the final announcements, of course, but now that the dust is starting to settle we want to start off with your perspectives. The live chat when we blogged the stream seemed like a real mix of emotions; the hype beforehand was huge, and the reaction during and after was wildly varied. With something like the Fighter Ballot results - of which Bayonetta made the grade as the most popular 'realizable' character - and a final cast it was only natural that reactions would be diverse.
We've all had time to digest the outcome, now, so let's talk it over. Post your votes in the polls below and sound off in the comments - was this a strong finale for this generation of Super Smash Bros.?
I'm annoyed about Corrin but whatever really a new character is a new character.
Bayonetta being in is awesome!
So it really is the final DLC?
I thought that there would be more after Bayonetta & Corrin.
I am choosing this (currently) not as crowded thread to show my excitement for Bayonetta being announced yesterday. Maybe next Smash Splatoon will get the representation it deserves.
Loved it. I'm kinda sad that we have reached the Final Destination of the hype train, but it's for the best. Hopefully this will fuel Sakurai to put as much work into his next game.
COUGH*Kid Icarus 2*COUGH
I am soooo happy that... BAYONETTA IS CONFIRMED FOR SMASH!!! Bayonetta is awesome! I played both games
It left me wondering what the non realizable characters were? I thought we may get 3 from the ballot and maybe Cloud counts as one along with Bayonetta but I'm shocked by the addition of Corrin. I didn't expect another FE character especially one from Fates. I feel like maybe an indie character to thank them for the eShop support would have made more sense but maybe they couldn't work out a deal to make it feasible.
Still there is a ton to the original game and I find the $5.99 DLC price tag to be too much for my liking so I wouldn't be buying regardless of who was announced as the final DLC
It was good, epsically since it was the last one.
@Robo-Knight It is Robo-Knight. Everyone expect more fighter, but unfortunately that's all of them.
Overall I think it's a nice end for the game in terms of DLC.
However I kinda hate Smash so I'm the dude who watches just to see pretty things on screen and answer the polls with the funny "I don't care" responses.
It would've been more memorable if I hadn't been spoiled of the ending~
I went here thinking you guys wouldn't have "Bayonetta joins Smash" articles above the actual stream. But alas. =
Like I said already in the forums, I thought the Direct was very good but I'm still bummed my requested characters will never be in Smash 4. And I could say, "Oh well, Smash 5 then!" but I'm not so convinced Smash 5 will be a thing, to be honest.
Bayonetta is probably the most interesting addition to the roster. It's still a shocker as I see her shoes land on the Battlefield stage. And I still think Ryu coiuild have been replaced with someone else.
What's done is done, I guess.
I think bayonetta is cool but honestly she wasn't one of the characters I wanted in! I'm surprised she was the number 1 in Europe didn't realise she was so popular!
i dont even play smah and i got exited.i saw the last half because the interwebz would not stop telling me to watch.i liked it.cloud even makes me want to buy the game
Corrin makes up for it though I love fire emblem so more characters (and definately amiibo!) Is a big plus for fans like me!
Give me some Splatoon love next time. I'm very happy for Bayonetta though. Corrin is mmmmmeeeeehhhhh......
My answers, in order: already picked Cloud, Corrin was unexpected and kind of a bummer at first but then I warmed up to him/her (hence my "not sure"), excited "indeed" for Bayonetta although I did not vote for her, planning to pick up Cloud sometime in the future, picking up all Mii outfits, was entertained by the pretty good presentation, and... that's it.
Still sad that Sora, Isaac and the Ice Climbers (or, slightly less importantly to me, Snake and Wolf) didn't make the cut, especially for the Ice Climbers who will pretty much come back for the next game, and let's face it, that foreshadowing in the Fire Emblem book with Sakurai's interview showed obvious bias - the following is weird coming from me, but I would rather have accepted a sixth FE rep as an advertisement for Fates rather than someone that got in out of Sakurai's own love for Fire Emblem. But, with all things considered, Sakurai's health problems and the amazing game that's shaping up despite them, all of this is ultimately excusable.
Also, someone find a way to toggle the separate Character Select screen off in the 3DS version. Having to browse two different screens kinda made sense with the stage select screen, but with characters, it looks downright ugly.
All in all, still hyped. And I'm glad a Final Fantasy character is in my game(s).
7 dlc characters? I know that it takes a while to make them but I was hoping for 8 so that we could have an 8 player battle using only DLC characters
@Browny Haha Im kinda the same way. I got Smash 3DS (my first Smash game) but Im not a huge fan. Its ok. Personally Im just glad all the massive stupid updates are done with. The game was becoming like a virus on my SD card. Lol
I found it very anti-climactic. Raise the roof with Cloud, and Corrin and Bayonetta kinda ruined it. It wasn't a big massive finish the Direct hoped out to be. Corrin was a ruin, due to the fact that not everyone plays FE and even knew of this character. It was also a scam. Why promote? We're going to throw money at whatever character you make anyway, but don't suck FE's d*ck about it. Any other character could do.
While I think Bayonetta is cool and interesting, she didn't impact the world as I thought. Compared to what Shovel Knight, Shantae, Banjo, Wonder Red, Isaac and many other character choices could do, it doesn't seem like something the fans deserved. I'd be more happy if the character was iconic like Mickey Mouse, or Nintendo based, because c'mon, I didn't vote for Isaac but even I know Golden Sun needs something.
But I won't say I won't enjoy Bayo, but I expected more after Cloud. Maybe Cloud should have been announced last.
Of all the directs I've seen, this one...I'm a little disappointed. I was hoping to see either new gameplay modes or Custom Specials for the DLC characters, but alas...
Cloud looked amazing in the trailer back in the last direct, but after trying him out, he didn't live up to what I expected. He isn't a bad character, but not one of those handful of characters I'd be using very often. Bayonetta...I'll be honest, despite having the most votes in Europe and being in the top 5 wanted in the US, she is one of the very few characters I was very mixed about. I don't hate her, but her appearance in the roster just made me feel weird. And lastly, I was hoping to see School Uniform costumes for Mii Fighters, but that won't be happening...sadly for me.
Pretty much the only things in the direct that appealed to me were Corrin (I gots to download when that time comes), and the Geno, Bionic suit, and Gil costumes. Now, I know Sakurai himself didn't want to continue on DLC any longer as I know how exhausted he is from supporting this game from all the DLC he's been giving us (and I don't blame him, he needs more than a well-deserved rest), but seeing how this Final Presentation went just didn't fit well for me.
I'm not really upset about the choices of what we're getting, I was just expecting there to be more than 3 new characters and 2 new stages.
I know it takes time, but that's why I was really hoping for them to bring back Wolf and Snake, characters that already have realized movesets, they just need to be translated over (although I really would have loved for Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Ice Climbers as well to have the complete cast).
And I am very surprised that no more past stages are being made. I would think those would be even easier to bring over than characters. We're missing so many classic stages: Fourside, Kongo Jungle (Melee), Poke' Floats, Fountain of Dreams, Saffron City, Big Blue, Frigate Orpheon, etc.
I love what we're getting, I'm just bummed it's not more. It would be great if the Project M team could find a way to add more characters and stages.
While I initially roled my eyes at yet ANOTHER fire emblem character, when I saw Corrin in action I was pretty hyped. I am not normally someone who gets hyped for dlc in a game thats already had plenty of my attention but seeing Bayonetta announced had me clapping my hands in glee at the screen. Cant wait for February to play with Bayo and Corrin, should tide me over until Twilight Princess HD comes out.
Overall this was the first smash direct I really enjoyed watching.
I think this Direct has been getting a lot of hate for "oh no, another anime swordsman."
Personally, Corrin has made me even more excited for Fire Emblem: Fates, which was going to be my first FE game anyway. He looks super unique and I can't wait to play as him. Same for Bayonetta. I didn't vote for her in the ballot but she looks really cool. I'm going to buy Cloud, Corrin, and Bayonetta all at once in February.
I really hope there's a Smash 4 Definitive Edition as an NX launch title with all the stages from both Wii U and 3DS, all characters + DLC (and maybe even Ice Climbers and Wolf? Fingers crossed...), all Mii costumes and modes, etc.
I'm happy with the final outcome.Some awesome characters and the presentation was a nice send off.
@Uzuki I would also love a new kid Icarus game. Preferably a home console title which would benefit from the control setup. Would also look brilliant in HD.
Was a very good direct, most hyped for Bayonetta cuz that was my ballot pick and she looks awesome in Smash plus the Amiibos defo Ryu n Bayo are must haves for me.
I think the most surprising part if the direct for me was the Tower of Druaga representation. I definitely didn't see that coming.
To be honest, i would trade that Fire Emblem character for Shovel Knight any day of the week. Its weird that he didnt get in. Yacht Club has been very good to Nintendo, they already have an Amiibo for him and he would have been a rather interesting character, probably centered around meteor smashes.
Oh well, cant have everything i guess.
The haters were just upset that that their ballot choice wasn't picked. However, I'm excited because I voted for Bayonetta.
I was a tad disappointed at the Corrin reveal, but the moveset looked awesome and its a chainsaw sword! I was not expecting Bayonetta at all so it was nice to have a reveal come as a shock for once. Not to mention, Platinum and Nintendo have been pretty close as of late.
My only roster complaint would be that I was hoping for some nonhumanoid fighter to join and balance things out. I love Smash for the very reason you can have Jigglypuff on the same screen as Ike due to their contrasting designs.
Overall, I'm glad for once I stayed off the internet and didn't spoil the direct for myself.
Bayonetta is good. But Corrin? Who the **** is Corrin? Very disappointing for so many reasons.
The only thing that disappointed me is the lack of Shantae and Shovel Knight (especially Shantae). I'm not at all upset about Corrin as I'm a super Fire Emblem junkie, but I think it was a great last Smash direct. I'm still hoping for some future DLC, but if this truly is the end, I think it ended well.
Corrin was a bit odd, being yet another FE rep. But his (or her) fighting style is cool.
Cloud is awesome. No complaints here.
Bayonetta... might be the only character DLC I don't buy. I'm not mad, but I am disappointed (we are allowed to be that, afterall). I want to see more specifics regarding the ballot.
To her credit, her playstyle does look neat.
I enjoy the presentation. Both Corrin and Bayonetta was a surprise to me since one is for a game that's not even out yet (you know what I mean by that) and the next from an MA game. Honesty as long as it was a new fighter and not a past one like Mewtwo, Roy, and Lucas (sorry guys), I'm good.
I guess my dream for more custom moves for mii Fighters is shot down. Well it was a long shot anyways, even with all the costumes for him/her/it.
I love the way Sakurai listed all the fighters, stages, music, etc. at the end. That seem like a perfect moment to say "put that in your pipe and smoke it" and then drop the mic.
Well, I'm glad we still have Platinum making games like Bayonetta and Star Fox!
Loved everything but Bayo, so very good overall. I'm just not into demon-witch trying hard to be am attractive cartoon character type things.
@3Daniel At least Bayonetta's hair is a little unhumanly.
@Uzuki But a new Kid Icarus would be the 4th in the series.
I was pleased with both new fighter reveals; Corrin's reveal has me even more excited for FE: Fates. Bayonetta was also a pleasant surprise.
I find it convenient that Sakurai claims Bayonetta was the top pick in Europe and the most realizable character, yet doesn't show anyone the results of the Smash Ballot.
For me, the best part was at the very end when he went over the numbers (characters, stages, Mii outfits, et cetera). Taken as a whole, this iteration of Smash Bros was extremely ambitious and the risk worked out extremely well. Why complain that your poll character didn't get in and just enjoy all the detail and content that went into Smash..
BAYONETTA! I'm still pumped about this almost a day later. To be perfectly honest, she was the best choice. Her move set is already established, and she is the lead character of the most lauded Wii U exclusive.
Not bad at all, Bayonetta being in the game is awesome. It's funny cause I actually didn't vote for her, even though I'm a huge fan of the series. I may even pick up the Amiibo. I'm not a huge fan of Final Fantasy at all, but I bought Cloud and I really like the character. I think I will main him. As for the Corrin, meh, I'll still get him as well as Fates for the 3DS. But yeah, I would have picked someone else, but he/she still looks cool so I might like the character. To throw in my 2 sense, I still think Smash should have had a western third party character in the mix as well. I knew this wouldn't happen but I was hoping for a new online mode, something that I wouldn't have to run into so many Taunt Party matches. Looking forward to Feb.
Love Corrin. Great character. And sad about no daisy amiibo but Bayonetta is a good pick because of the Nintendo exclusivity
I already bought Cloud and am hyped for Corrin. Don't care as much for Bayonetta, but her stage looks cool.
I had no idea who Corrin was, but I'm fine with the inclusion, he/she seems different from the other FE characters at least. Bayonetta was a nice surprise. That isn't who I voted for, but she's a good addition. She's a very unique character, and should work well.
Pretty upset that we got another Fire Emblem character, but he/she looks good. Especially from a very recent game!
As for the Mii fighter costumes, I was pretty happy that The Tower of Draga gets some recognition in Smash! Really fun game!
Bayonetta joining Smash Bros is a huge surprise! Nobody saw that coming, especially when the creator of the game was being rude to us back in the day. I didn't vote for her, but still a nice addition to the roster.
Speaking about voting, I'm also surprised that she won the ballot. Funny thing is, she won among realizable characters! So that means that people did voted for stupid characters such as Shrek and Goku! XD
Overall, the ending had less content than most of us expected, but the bombs Sakurai dropped just makes it good. People are very ungrateful because their characters didn't make it in. They got to deal with it.
Now I'd they could just bundle all the dlc inot one package...
Corrin over Inklings? Just..... Why? Who in their right mind?
I was also underwhelmed. It only makes sense that with a couple slots left, my picks would most likely not be included, so no harm there. But ANOTHER Fire Emblem person.... meh. I feel like that's one slot used up where another character with more demand could have been. Either way, the other choices were pretty good and Sakurai has already poured more than enough time and effort into this game.
The final batch of DLC characters are alright, but there is no way they weren't lying out of their asses when they said Bayo won the ballot.
I love Bayonetta, but there are far better choices for characters, especially as a finale to Smash 4.
It didn't feel right for the final direct/presentation.
Even though I never played Bayonetta I really think it's cool that she's in! CORRIN, on the other hand... ugh. Another FE character.
I'm happy I should be able to get R.O.B. amiibo by itself, and maybe the CLoud one.
As for the DLC, probably skipping it. My gut says they are going to do a GOTY edition and include all the DLC down the road. Will be way cheaper then buying the DLC now.
From what I hear, FE Fates is so good, we will not be worrying about Corrins inclusion when it is released
So happy my vote wasn't for naught Queen Bayo all the way baby!
Man Mii costumes are stupid. I'd rather they had just drop the Mii characters entirely if it meant they could have spent that development time making new fighters or fighter costumes. It was such a missed opportunity for great fan service.
Project M had it right with costumes. More of that in Smash 5.
Bayonetta for the Smash Climax? Couldn't have asked anything better. Bayonetta and Smash were meant to be and intact I'd have thought She would already be included in the roster upon release. But now that it's done, its just perfect for me. The best thing that's got me pumped for someone. Totally Awesome.
I hear people are disppoited the Smash Ballot results weren't publicized.
Not that I personally mind, I didn't vote.
I liked the presentation, but overall I'm just happy Sora is done making paid DLC so they can get on with a new game.
Too bad, i won't use anymore C4 officially !
Underwhelmed a little, but I guess it is following the grand tradition of marketing the new Fire Emblem hero in Smash as it is important to Nintendo.
Cloud is interesting (the stage a little more than the character), but he really wasn't all that impressive of a hero (a bit of an empty clone shell) nor did he star in a very good game (feels like KotOR 2 in that the second half is heavily cut and missing important details).
Bayonetta is also interesting, but it feels like she got in because characters more desired were not available for licensing. This means it wasn't a Sega, Capcom, Bandai-Namco, or Konami character (because they will put their characters on anything for the right amount of money). Perhaps one day the real winner will leak out onto the internet, especially since apparently Bayonetta wasn't even Japan's top 10 (hence no mention).
The final update I can see happening is giving 3DS stages to Wii U and Wii U stages to 3DS. Both will keep their exclusive trophies and game mode tho. There's also the balance issue and fix after the last 2 characters.
I'll never be happy until Plok is in... I guess I'll never be happy.
Also I had voted for Bayonetta......multiple times 😁 so this couldn't make me happier I read here somewhere a guy voted 50 times for Bayo haha. So us Bayonetta fans did our job it seems. And people need to stop crying over it. She seems like she's gonna be an amazing fighter with AWESOME moves So why all of these nagging and that too on Bayonetta, one of the best Action/fighting games' protagonist getting included on a fighting game doesnt get any more sensible. STOP WHINING, NAGGING ABOUT EVERYTHING. JUST STOP!
Hmm... there seems to be a distinct lack of a poll option for me regarding Corrin. I think it's a horrible choice, and despite being a big fan of the series, I don't like it. That being said, I thought they look like they play interesting and since I buy all DLC characters so I can at least play against them and friends can play as them, I'll get Corrin as well.
Bayonetta on the other hand, I voted for AND am extremely excited to see her join up.
Sakura-san must have known my birthday is at the end of February! Thank you sir! I don't get the disappointment some have with Bayonetta. The sequel is a Nintendo exclusive, that game is one of if not the best of this generation so far, her fighting style fits perfectly into the game.
Dissapointing. Nintendo has a huge linea up of classic and loveable characters and goes with ANOTHER FREAKING FIRE EMBLEM CHARACTER.
Newsflash Nintendo: FE isn't and never will be popular. Knock it off!
People seriously need to lower their expectations and start reading T's and C's around running polls:
1) the most popular character by votes was never gonna make it in because of licensing rules
2) who you pick doesn't make them eligible for the above reason.
Stop calling fix!! Sakurai clearly stated in the Direct that there were characters that were off the table from the outset.
I voted Goemon but it was never gonna happen.
Hopefully those who don't know Bayonetta will remember the character and this will help the proposition of further games in the series.
@Uzuki With you all the way! KIU2!
None of the th DLC released has convinced me to buy it, so at least my wallet thanks me.
I was shedding a happy farewell tears when the direct ended because I was so pleased with what Sakurai has given to us, despite his arm injury. This man has worked a lot, and he should be memorized as an employee of the century or millennia. This Smash Bros. has the most amount of content ever in the history of video games. Thank you Sakurai! I hope we get to see on your future projects like Kirby games or Kid Icarus.
@Joestar- Actually Uprising was the 4th game, so I guess what I meant is a Kid Icarus 5 then
AAAASSAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH BAYONETTA AAAAAAHHH DOFNFJSPANCHSOENDOAMDNC SISMZKS
@Minotaurgamer Awaken has practically sold 2 million copies and the new entries are doing great in Japan. Series is getting popular.
Corrin: Eh...he looks interesting, but Fire Emblem was already well-represented, so I would've preferred getting a character from a series that has less representation (Like DK...or Starfox...hopefully K Rool and Wolf are in Smash 5.). Also, that Geno outfit. I don't care if he's just an outfit, because I'm just glad he's in the game PERIOD!
There's already too much great stuff in Smash U for my disappointment over yesterday's video to mean that much.
The direct was great, but also a bit underwhelming. 2 is an alright number of new characters, but I was expecting at least 3 since it was the final reveals and the Smash ballot results hadn't been mentioned before now. There's too many Fire Emblem characters now, but I'm happy to have Corrin since it's a freaking dragon person and it's moves look rather unique.
I was a bit disappointed with Bayonetta, but that's possibly because she was the final character, so her inclusion ruled out Rayman. I'll probably be excited for her eventually once I get over my wanted characters not making the cut.
I'd prefer Rayman above everyone, but hey, Bayonetta is a pretty cool addition with her focus on strategic combo's. Cloud is okay, his Limit gauge definitely gives a twist to the 'another swordfighter' trend we feared. About Corrin, hmm, I honestly don't know what to think. For now he's just another swordguy (or gal) with different ranged attacks.
I guess it's a fine ending to a DLC era, but it didn't end in the blast I expected.
I'm super excited for Corrin. Going to get him in smash and get FE: Fates! Might even pick him/her up as a main cause the moves look so unique and fun to play.
As for Bayonetta I'm okay with her and she deserves it, but I still would've rather had Shantae Lol. Since she was the last I definitely prefer getting a her as a newcomer over a returning character. Looking forward to messing around with her moveset when she launches.
Also Looking forward to those amiibo figures.
Seriously, no Waluigi? Instead make way for another anime character and two characters that didn't even originate on a Nintendo console.
Was a decent presentation but I've moved on from Smash and this won't make me go back.
Interesting wording around Bayonetta winning!
I hope Ridley will meke it to smash 5
I really enjoyed it. Sakurai and his team have been working ridiculously hard. Considering that Melee was meant to be the last game in the series (and then Brawl after that), it's amazing he's managed to keep going and I'm sure it's driven him a little bit nuts at points.
At the end of the day, we got a great game with lots of great characters and stages, we got a game that also catered to tournaments as well as general play, and we got over a year's worth of DLC that wasn't on-disc, featuring third party characters that no-one thought would join the fray. I think we've done pretty damn well.
In all honesty, Smash Bros. should go away for a bit. And as Sakurai feels a real attachment to the series, I wonder if this really should be it as I fear he won't be able to let it go so easily. At the very least, let it rest for now and enjoy what we have!
More excited for Corrin than Bayonetta. Looking forward to getting Fates and Corrin in the same month.
Bayonetta still looks interesting, though I have a large amount of characters I would rather see in smash her move set looks promising.
I don't care what anyone says. Corrin and Bayonetta are fantastic additions to the roster, and I can't wait to pick them up. People are just mad because they haven't played the greatness that is Fire Emblem and the the greatness that is Bayonetta.
Hey! They said it was the final video regarding SSB on Wii U. It makes me think they will continue SSB on NX.
Generally, the most suprising character was Bayonetta. Cloud was suprising when the info first came up. I would like to see Snake or some of the other fan picks (Shovel Knight, Mallo, Shantae) but the final presentation was fine regardless.
When Corrin's trailer started playing, I immediately recognized it as Fates, and started laughing. A sixth Fire Emblem character? I knew there was going to be a ton of salt. Once I started seeing Corrin in action, I got hyped. That move where Corrin impales you and then has an option of what to do almost looks broken! Corrin is completely different from the other FE characters, even in his movement.
As for Bayonetta, when her trailer started I actually thought we were getting another Kid Icarus character. When it panned to the moon and her voice appeared, I freaked out!
Very hype for both characters. Also, Cloud is quite fun to play as, and he feels actually fairly natural to me.
Bayonetta and Takamaru costumes for me please. Although I will buy Cloud because he seems cool as is the FF stage, and Corrin I'm excited about but will be even more so when I actually know about the character and play the upcoming Fire Emblems.
The Direct was pretty good, overall. Not a fan of Bayonetta or Corrin, but Cloud is more than welcome! I'm getting the Roy amiibo for sure, and probably Cloud too.
But 58 fighters is amazing! Hopefully the next Smash game will have at least a few more characters, preferably Shantae and Rayman!
I really REALLY don't like Corrin. His soul purpose is to be a promotion for FEF. Sakurai could have focused on a better character but no, we get an advertisement. Super Smash Bros. became PlayStation All Stars.
Soooo....Nintendo Directs when Corrin and Bayo released?
IMO, given they've had so many other classics like Pac-Man and Megaman they should have tried like hell to add Simon Belmont just to complete the NES classic roster. Of course Konami officially hates video games so maybe it wasn't possible with those douches.
Disappointed with Corrin, don't really see the need for another FE rep. Will buy anyway since I appreciate the buttload of work put into this game. I don't own a Wii U so I've never played either of the Bayonetta games but her moveset looks pretty different and fun. Cloud is neat (though FF6 > FF7 [and well, every other game ever released imo]), and both of those new stages look awesome. I was kind of hoping for Inklings [my ballot vote was for Bomberman, I assume he was unrealizable], but maybe they were impossible like the Ice Climbers?
My main takeaway is that Sakurai really didn't seem like he was having fun anymore, which is too bad.
I don't think I'd ever buy a Mii Costume, but that Geno one is really cool.
As much as I love Fire Emblem, I really don't think we needed SIX characters from it. That spot that Corrin just took up should have gone to Shovel Knight, Snake, King K. Rool, etc.
Other than that, I'm satisfied. Bayonetta and Cloud are fantastic additions, and the new stages look great.
I have to say, the ending was really cool. I loved hearing Sakurai's final words about the game and his thanks to the developers and fans. I also loved the montage of fighters they did afterwards. I'm just sad It's all coming to an end though...
@Joenen Try looking at direct/smash videos on the eshop before going on the internet if you arrived late.
@Minotaurgamer Heh, had you said this preceding Fire Emblem Awakening, that argument would've held better ground.
@Uzuki There was another Kid icarus game?
Bayonetta only won because of her sex appeal.
If anything, I'm a bit sad that Sakurai had to include the ending monologue about just how much work went into the games, including after their launch. The Smash Bros. titles -are- bursting with fanservice and content, but gamers get so hung up on one or two missing features and arbitrarily decide that the whole effort is worthless. There can always be more, more, MORE, but that applies to any piece of media. But they have to stop and move on to other projects at some point.
So Corrin, yep another Fire Emblem character until I saw what he has in his arsnal and what he can do, (espically that pinning) heheh I'm more than impressed.
And Bayonetta, those combos,..... the way she moves,..... and those combos, the guns, and the combos, and dat witch time, AND THOSE COMBOS!! (pant pant pant). not going to buy her upon launch unless I land a proper job tho
Overall keeping this short, Im sad this is all over I 'm glad with what we got.
I'm sure I got character suggestions and gameplay modes a mile long but hey, You done this much.
Thank you Sakurai for that ending speech, and the fact you nearly had to be put in mortal danger to deliver this in a timely and reasonable and massive fashion.
Bayonetta was a huge surprise (and so was Cloud, when he was announced). If there was going to be a Platinum character, I was sure it would be Wonder Red. Bayonetta is the better choice, I just didn't think Nintendo would go for her in Smash.
Also, interesting connections between Smash and Fire Emblem. The two series have had a very symbiotic relationship.
I feel conflicted about Corrin. On one hand I don't think we needed another FE rep, but on the other hand Corrin actually looks pretty fun to play.
I was expecting 3 new characters last night (besides Cloud) so I was a bit disappointed it was just the 2 of them. Bayonetta looked amazing and I'm very excited for her arrival. Corrin on the other hand, well that was disappointing. Firstly, there's the fact that it's such a new character no one outside of Japan even knows them, or has even played the game they're from. Then there's also the fact we have plenty of Fire Emblem characters already, two of them from the current generation of consoles, for that matter. Plus one of those FE characters was brought back as DLC (Roy) so to have yet another one as DLC seems overkill and a waste of a place on the roster for another character/series to be represented.
So it was a mixed bag, this last presentation. They should have given a place to another retro character rather than someone very new. As was pointed out on Twitter by Chris Scullion, Smash should be a celebration of Nintendo's past - not a means of promoting its future, which is very much the point of Corrin's inclusion.
Totally disappointing. I'm done with smash, now I want a new nintendo All-star type of game. With more adventures this time.
The post-release Smash content has been fun to get hyped over, but I refuse to buy DLC. I already have my mains, and the money could go towards new games instead of a character I will play with just a few times.
My DLC refusal is for all Nintendo games. I own all the games that offer it, but the good news is that I feel all of these games are completely 100% fine without it, and I am content with them. When you add the DLC and the price together with the actual game, the content per dollar ratio gets much worse.
To start off, all the characters that were announced yesterday belong to franchises that am I HUGE fan of. Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy and Bayonetta are all amazing games.
I was still a bit disappointed in the Direct. And no, this is not about Isaac.
The characters in themselves are pretty awesome with Corrin sporting a cool transforming dragon moveset and Bayonetta having Witch time as well as combos (a lot like the game itself). You can see how well Sakurai and Nintendo are developing these characters.
It is the choice of the characters itself which is bothersome. Fire Emblem, believe it or not, has always been a niche series with Awakening being the only game to cross a million global sales and also was a potential swan song for the franchise. The representation in Smash however has been exvessive. Corrin could have been used for the next Smash since 2 characters (Robin and Lucina) from the current generation were already added with Roy re-added as DLC. Instead of celebrating it's history, Nintendo is choosing to advertise an unreleased game.
Bayonetta is an entirely different matter. Nintendo chose to completely hide the results of the ballot, and announced Bayonetta as the winner among "realizable" characters. The ones rejected could be 3rd party (hence licensing issues) but may very well have been 1st party who Nintendo refused to add/consider. Despite her awesomeness, I don't believe that she was the "winner" considering her games were also niche (but amazing) action games. The choice seemed as a shock reveal more than anything, with Bayonetta chosen over quite a few characters. Plus we could have used another ballot character.
Still, since the DLC has now all been finally announced, I would like to congratulate all the fans who's favoured character was announced. I might as well try them out once I buy the game and DLC chars.
I'm not sure if someone said this, but I figured Inkling wouldn't get in this time, but be the first reveal of the next Smash Bros. Gotta save some people for the next one - hopefully Bomberman will be in that.
That said Corrin and Bayonetta look extremely fun to play as. I was hoping for more from the final announcement though. I'm just glad to have new fighters instead of returning veterans. I wonder if the DLC characters will return in the newer installments, since they weren't planned this time around?
I'm really liked the presentation. Corrin looks to be a fun character, and so does Bayonetta. I'm glad that this is Smash 4. It certainly was a fun ride!
Though I'm going to miss speculating.
I think what they had was very good, and the new characters all seem really cool.
But I'm very disappointed that there was only two ballot characters and yet another FE character had to fill a character slot. Nintendo should have laid the rules from the get go that "there's gonna be this and this many characters" so that I couldn't complain.
Also, why no Banjo-Kazooie when Microsoft said it was OK?
They acknowledged Geno. The game is now perfect.
Except the Forest Maze should've been included as a track. WTF Square, you partnered with Nintendo and you could've let them use more songs.
To be fair, I think all 3 characters look great, I'm going to buy all 3 and I'm going to play the crap out of them. That being said, if I only had 3 character slots left to fill, I would try to fill them with historical, iconic characters. Ryu and Cloud are historical, iconic characters. Corrin is the SIXTH Fire Emblem character and he/she is in a game that hasn't even come out yet. Of course Sakurai is going to make any character fun and amazing to play. But my hype for this Corrin character is less than zero. I was really hoping for a Simon Belmont, Ryu Hyabusa, Toon Ganondorf or some other legendary character. So yeah, Corrin who? And by the way, what about local tournament brackets, Sakurai? They've been in Smash games before. But now if I want to throw a local tournament with my friends, I have to draw up some brackets on a piece of paper.... ridiculous.
I like how people keep saying that Nintendo did this or Nintendo did that.
Newsflash people: Nintendo isn't the one that made these choices. Sakurai did. Nintendo stays out of it, even with third party characters.
Corrin was Sakurai's decision. He's the one choosing to advertise Fates, not Nintendo.
Im just glad this Smash madness is finally over
Highlights for me:
Summons on Midgar, the official Cloud art (!!!!!), Bayonetta's reveal.
I was actually about to turn off the direct after seeing Pit ("okay, a Kid Icarus character, that's nice"), but then I heard Bayonetta's voice and I instantly got excited. That was probably my favorite reveal–Bayonetta talking s*** about Pit and Palutena was so perfect BECAUSE BAYONETTA KILLS ANGELS I AM SO HAPPY
Simply put, all of the final characters were characters who could've been expected from Nintendo WITHOUT the ballot. And that's what disappoints me, not the characters themselves. We wanted the ballot to manifest itself in exciting, interesting, and unexpected characters just like it promised, but instead we got characters expectable from Nintendo. It seemed like maybe they didn't even look at the ballot, they never even said if the revealed characters were the winner. In fact, it seemed like popular characters in the ballot were given the Mii costume treatment, like knuckles and tails.
I voted for Bayonetta, but was still SO surprised she won, as I thought no one else in the world wanted her in smash!
Just look at her move set though and try and tell me she's not going to be a great addition to the roster.
...That's right, you can't!
Unfortunately, caught the end of the stream after seeing the Twitch e-mail that Nintendo was live, so any theatrics were lost on me. Didn't recognize the not-Bayonetta character right off, but by the looks and knowing Fates is coming, I all but groaned. All the undoubtedly interesting pics from the poll, and we get a n o t h e r FE.
EDIT: But, haven't gone back to see their reveals, either, so cannot fairly judge Corrin, or fairly HYPE on Bayonetta.
So much bitterness over silly things. Some people just really like to feel outraged. Personally, I've never played half the games represented in Smash (and I haven't played Bayonetta, either) but I still enjoy playing the game. It's just a great, completely nonsensical brawling game bringing together characters from every genre and generation of video games. It was never supposed to be guaranteed that your personal favorite character would be in it.
I'm happy to have Cloud, and I already bought him. First time buying Smash DLC, and I don't regret it. I played enough hours of FFVII to make that an instant buy. Bayonetta looks super cool as well. I will try to get both of their Amiibo when they arrive. Corrin I know nothing about, but I will be getting FE:Fates on release and I'm sure I will come to love him like the rest of the FE crew.
I'm strangely fine with Corri, despite my past gripes with so many FE reps added; mainly due to the fact Corrin doesn't fight exclusively with a sword. Bayonetta I really don't care for her games but whatever; at least it wasn't someone like Shantae.
I think in hindsight Cloud should've been revealed last to just go out on a crazy high note.
I think all the outrage across the different sites and social media is hilarious.
I love the fact that Corrin is more spear/dragon based than a sword fighter.
I love how Cloud and Bayonetta are unique in Smash.
corrin is a weak joke but bayonetta is a fantastic additon
I'm over the moon with the announcement of Bayonetta , I voted for Bayonetta and thought never would it happen and now it has THANK YOU Nintendo I am one very happy Smash Bros. Fan and I simply cannot wait for her amiibo just AWESOME..
i dont believe its the final DLC, its just sakurai being a troll...AGAIN!
@Uzuki Kid Icarus NES, Of Myth's and Monsters, Uprising, what other game was there?
I wish Geno was a character... oh well. When I heard "Forest Maze" music, though, I leapt out of excitement. I look forward to actually getting a Mii Costume... I guess.
My first reaction to Coron was not another Fire Emblem character but then I see his moves I am totally going to play him because his move set looks different from the others. Bayonetta was exciting because I voted for her but her moves look way to OP. Overall I feel like the roster is more or less complete I would have liked to see the DLC Return of Ice climbers and Snake as well but it just wasn't in the cards.
Didn't really want to chime in but I thought I'd add that Bayonetta was the most requested. As far as I'm concerned I can't realy argue with that. Lots of people happy. I was leaning more wonder red, king k rool, and isaac from golden sun as they are (to me) more nintendo than bayonetta. I'm actually excited for both corrin and bayonetta though although they were underwhelming.
That's the thing. They just weren't earth shattering. I think that's the problem. Almost like cloud should have been saved for last?
I thought it was an interesting direct but a bit ppor on the content side... Ok, 2 new characters and the explaination of Cloud ad some costumes and amiibos, but it stops there.
Well, didn't they tease some sort of Online Tournament Mode (Mario Kart style) in an old direct, when the game wasn't out yet? Where is it??
A final mode to add and close everything would have probably made the direct a little better.
Still, applause for Sakurai, he did an amazing job on the game and i respect his work so much. Also, Cloud is good. Very good.
I love smash bros and I like new characters regardless of who is in it. Fun ness is about to happen. I've been drinking lol.
As great as the content we got and will get in february is, I really thought we'd get a few more stages, too. Umbra Clock Tower certainly looks amazing but where's Fountain of Dreams and Saffron City everyone has been asking for, Sakurai?
I guess you can say Shovel Knight got the shovel
@Uzuki Kid Icarus 4 you mean... Let's count!
Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Potential infinite Kid Icarus's.
I'm happy that Final Fantasy got representation. (even though Cloud isn't personally one of my favourite FF protagonists, I still picked him up and his moveset is pretty satisfying)
I'm not sure about Corrin really. They're the kind of character that I may very well end up loving for the moveset but not so much the actual character. The moveset looks very creative though. I think I'm neutral overall.
Bayonetta is awesome though, she was in my top five characters I wanted to see added to Smash. She fits into the game so well, I don't care what people say about being too mature. Her moves just scream "put me in Smash!". I thought as much when I first played her games last year.
@Einherjar Fully agreed.
@LasermasterA I agree with your second to last paragraph, minus the words "awesomeness" and "but amazing".
"Bayonetta? What? I wanted someone else from the Fighter Ballot dagnabbit!" the only negative option on her? Biased much? I didn't actually vote on the Ballot at all and I'm not happy about her, and the fact that this among other things makes anyone who doesn't adore her look salty and bitter just because their choice didn't get in. What about those of us who couldn't get into her games because believe it or not a super-sexed up woman with a bad attitude does not appeal to everybody and may not make up for the rest of the game? And I, again, did not vote in the ballot. I wouldn't have cared except that I had tried Bayonetta's games before after a friend suggested them and thought they were awful. I ended up with Darkness Induced Apathy towards Bayonetta herself and the story and the fights got to be annoying from a gameplay perspective. Now she's gonna be a not-optional character for Smash Switch, and of course everyone just has to be thrilled about it or they're "salty", "bitter", "whiners", etc.
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